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The 404 Show 1,587: Xbox One wins Black Friday, Star Wars, did North Korea hack Sony? (podcast)We're back on the show with a Thanksgiving weekend wrap up. Has Black Friday lost its luster? We'll also discuss Xbox One's big weekend, analyze the new Star Wars teaser and wonder if North Korea is really behind the recent Sony Pictures hack.
All right, I hope everyone had a nice, little Thanksgiving break. How was your, Black Friday, your, oh, how was your Thanksgiving? Thanksgiving was good. We, did Chinese food this year. What? Yes, Chinese food. I'm not exactly a traditionalist when it comes to, to Thanksgiving. I had my boy, he's not exactly into. Turkey and stuffing and everything, so like, how about some Chinese food. So he was cool with that. Is that sad, I can't tell? Mm. I didn't have to cook, I didn't have to clean up. Ariel, what's, what are we doing with this guy? I don't know man. Is it sad? That's like, just, a regular weekday for me. Is Chinese food. Yeah. I haven't had the You soiled the sanctity of the, of the holiday. I don't think so. Like you're having a feast right? You're giving thanks. We do the giving thanks before we ate. Oh. Because you know, you do that. No, you don't do that. No one does that. Wait what is that part? Sure you do. You can't be thankful for what you got even if you're having low mein. Chicken low mein is just fine. Okay. Time out. Nobody is thankful for chicken low mein number one. I didn't say I was thankful for the meal. I said to be thankful for the. Stuff, you like, the people that are important in your life and things, not. You've left me speechless. I don't know how to approach this. What did you have on Thanksgiving. Like turkey and ****. What you have on Thanksgiving. You're a sheep. You're gonna have the same thing everybody else has? Wait. Wait. Everybody. Let's go back to the giving thanks thing. Yes. So Let's do that. You took time out of the meal to be like whoa, whoa, whoa. What are we thankful for? Yes. Just before the meal was ingested as it were. I guess that's like the spirit of the holiday. Yeah, you know. I don't know anyone else who does that. Actually I did it. Oh you did? OK. Yeah. But. It was more in a joking way because I've never done that before. Right, so see he was just humoring his dinner-mate. Yeah, my dinner-mate's a four year old, so I want him to like, Just you and him? And my girlfriend, so we're all like hanging out, and we all said thanks for things, and we just went on our way with eating. You're like, oh, oh, Thanksgiving, oh, pass me an egg roll? I had spring rolls. Didn't do egg rolls this year. look. Next year I won't have Chinese food. You do whatever you want. That's fine. I know. I did. It was exciting. But you're traumatizing your kid. I mean. [LAUGH] It's clear. Oh yeah, he's going to be so screwed up in like the first grade when he's like what do you mean you didn't have a. He's going to go to school today or yesterday. Mm-hm. And he's going to be like oh how was your Thanksgiving? What's his name? Aldren. Aldren. As in Buzz? Mm-hm. Well, that's cool. It's named after the astronaut. I, I recovered that. I,. You know how many people don't know what that name is? They're like what's, it, weird, is it Alden? It's like no, Aldrin, like the second guy on the moon. The guy was a rocket scientist. The guy who designed all the tests. That's really cool, man. Cause my name got hacked to death when I was growing up. You didn't want to name them Buzz? Buzz is gonna be his nickname. I didn't, he didn't understand that man. I'm like, your name is Buzz. He goes, I Aldrin. He just kept yelling it back too. And I'm like, look man, you don't understand it. I didn't know that. But yeah, that's his name. That's cool. He's good. And yes, he's traumatized for lots of reasons. I mean, like, I get it and I'm not necessarily a traditional guy. He doesn't like turkey. But Thanksgiving, you know, you have turkey. Well listen. If, if you want to negotiate with a four year old. I, I, I, I will welcome to the house. Come on in. Oh so you're saying it's him. You're blaming this on, on, on Alden. Abso, no. Not really. I don't really care. I mean he, he want, he didn't want turkey. I didn't really care to do the work. Let's have Chinese food. Fair enough. Alright. Let's move on your weird, move on beyond your weird. Weird. Specifically you're a weird Thanksgiving. And Arial your meal was fine yeah? It was great. I, I was in a restaurant. I had turkey, the traditional stuff, it was awesome. Nice. Yeah. okay. Black Friday and then yesterday Cyber Monday. Did you buy into the hype? What? Did you buy anything? The two of you. How did it go? I bought stuff on Monday. I complete, I, I treated Fridays like regular Fridays, cause I had Chinese food on Thursday. So why treat Friday like a much better time of the month. Why would Friday be any different? **** it? I didn't feel like buying anything today. Well, you had turkey Friday, didn't you? Of course I did. [CROSSTALK] I went out and I bought turkey on a huge discount. Yeah, I'm sure. And that a couple weeks before Christmas. Alright, did you, so what'd you buy yesterday? I bought, I bought some really boring stuff. Like, like surge protectors and like... He's killing me. Ariel... Your holiday was not fun. It, it was great. I need... Chinese food and surge protectors, you sure kicked the crap out of Thanksgiving this year. Man, what a sad state of affairs. I got to find out what Ariel got. Yeah. Well, did you? Did you buy anything? I didn't buy anything. No. Okay, so far, so I'm the guy who splurged. So... No, you didn't do anything, okay. Don't even call that splurging. The point I want to make is that all this is over. This is the first year where it's done. It's done. And one of the stories we'll get to in a little bit is about. The console sales for black friday. But this stuff is over. I think it is. I know. I know. I'm sure the number will not support what I just said. But it feel very lackluster this year. Yeah it did. It did right? Mm-hm So, I think this is a trend that will continue. Where people just don't care. Nobody want to get trample to save $30 on a TV. Perhaps it's the one silver lining, or the one glimmer left in humanity's eye? And we're just not going to buy into this Black Friday and Cyber Monday, Cyber Week, Cyber Week now. Cyber November, basically. Okay. so maybe we just stop buying into this crap. Just for one day. Just to save a couple extra bucks. See, it's crazy cause on Thursday you say what you're thankful for. All the stuff that you actually have. And the next day you just say eh, I need more crap. I need more. I need more. Yeah, you're right, you're right. It totally goes against the spirit of the holiday, does it not? Absolutely. Alright, it's Tuesday, December 2nd. This is a huge week for 404. Let's start the show. [MUSIC] Welcome to the 404 show, ladies and gentleman. I'm Jeff Bakular. I'm joined by this sadist. [LAUGH] Chinese-y. Chinese food eating. Chinese food eating, I'm not Chinese-y. Oh, you're killin' me smalls. Oh boy. I have Zach, Ariel Nunez in the control room. Howdy. What's up, dude? Chilling. So this week's huge,. So tomorrow we, we, you know we're not making a gigantic deal about it, but tomorrow we tie the record for most CNET podcasts ever. And probably most podcasts ever. On the internet, I mean do you know of any other show that has more episodes than us? Not consecutively. I'm not saying this to like toot our own horn. Yes you are. I'm not a horn tooter. Gotta toot. Toot. Toot. . We're gonna break it. Record breaking extravaganza. Trying to arrange a few special guests for the, for the occasion Jill Schlesinger will be here. You will be here. I plan to be here yeah. Ariel will be here. I'll be here. And you'll be here. And you, the viewing and listening audience, will be here. And then we have more to talk about, about the future of the show. And where we're going from here, and all that. If you haven't already entered, go to our website cnet.com/the404 for your chance to win the Xbox One Call of Duty bundle. You have a week for that and then we have one more contest. Another contest? Yeah. And then we're done for the year with contests. Okay. And it's it's a culinary contest, if you will. You don't know what it is, right? No idea. I'm the only one. Ariel doesn't know. Uh-uh. I'm the only one. it's- Well, aren't you just mad with power. Something delicious. And something you wouldn't think you could win on our show, but now you can. Ariel, if you had a guess, since you know nothing. Yeah. What would you guess? I would say some chips. Chips? Yeah. You think I'm gonna have a contest for chips? Or Oreos. Yes. I think it's gonna be for... Okay, that's his guess. It's fine. Knowing our show, we do [INAUDIBLE] Or Oreos. Yeah. That is not a bad guess. I'm gonna say a subscription to Omaha Steaks. All right. [CROSSTALK] That's my guess. That's a good guess. You'll have to wait and see when we announce this thing. I think it's gonna start next week, and run for a week. Fill that ****. I'll find out when you tell everybody else. So it'll be fun. Yeah, it'll be fun. I hope I'm right. okay. Speaking of Black Friday stuff. So. You know we talked about like how it its just not a very big deal this black Friday. I know that people were trampled right? Someone got hurt? I think someone did die. I don't know.>> Stabbings, people like stabbed each other. There were protests at the same time. Right, there is a lot of controversy this week black Friday kind of did you fell to the back burner. But if you're looking just specifically at the game consoles, and I thought this was kind of interesting. Xbox One obliterated the competition. It dominated Black Friday. We have a handy little chart here from GameSpot.com, our buddies over at that website. Xbox One made up 53% of the Black Friday console sales. Followed a distant lead by Playstation 4 which is 31% and here's where it gets interesting/upsetting/sad. Xbox 360, a console almost ready to celebrate its, or did just celebrate its ninth birthday, sold better than the Wii U. Ouch. Ouch. It hurts. That hurts, that burns, that stings a little bit. Because you're dealing with a nine year old console that couldn't trump a two year old or three year old console. I think anybody who wanted a Wii U kind of had it already. That's the thing, it wasn't like. A huge console. I mean. Release. The people are confused about it still. To this day. Look. People are confused about it. You don't have to explain it. I just am surprised this actually happened. Considering Super Smash Brothers also just came out, like how is that not beating 360? 360 was dirt cheap, though. It was like 99 bucks. Yeah. Like a hundred bucks, you can get like a. Here's a Yoku Box, an XBox 360, like, sure I'll get those things. People just getting it to get it. It's called a still. It's called XBox. That's another thing. You can get like all the apps for XBox-One super cheap. And you're like, hey, that's. I saw it on sale for like 299 over the weekend with like, Assassin's Creed. I'm like Xbox One, yeah. Yeah, I'm like, that's dirt cheap. There were great deals. And, and before you like read too much into this market share little graph here, Xbox One was the cheaper console this Black Friday. They gouged their price. I'm, not gouged, but they, they really cut them. Severely and I'm sure they ate a little bit of money Lots of like low cost things there. Like you said 329, 350, everything was 50 dollars off regardless. They really did you know, their job to sort of make it almost too good to be true. An offer that you couldn't refuse. So, that's how that works and Playstation 4 just threw in games for that standard $400 price tag. But whee-you man, it's tough. They're in a lot of trouble. And I'm sorry if you think that it's like, the, it's just fun for us to, to knock on Nintendo. But that console's in a lot of trouble. It's still too much money. The bun, they had a couple, retailer-exclusive bundles this year that were pretty good. But. I'm sorry. You know, if you wanna play the latest and greatest unless you have nothing but young gamer gamers in your house it's, it's kinda like it, easy to just pass over it. It's almost like they're in a different kind of competition [CROSSTALK] They are. They are. XBox and, and Playstation are like here's your media box that does Yeah. everything at once. And there's gaming and whatever. They're not in the same category. The Wii is like hey look you know what? If you're gonna have like a board game or Monopoly or something like. Get a WiiU at the same time. Right. It's basically, do you have young children and are you yourself the parent not a gamer. There you go. Oh, if that's the case, well then here you might like our console. That doesn't have enough onboard storage, has a terribly annoying game pad accessory and is really slow. And no ethernet on it too. That was like the, that was maddening to me. That's alright. That's okay. Like when it first was released you had to like download like a 2 gigabyte update. Right that took a couple days. So if something got disconnected in between, you were just screwed. Right. But anyway that's the we, you. What are you gonna do about it? All right Star Wars. Trailer, teaser trailer has, launched. And we just got finished making fun of the Jurassic World trailer. Which man, don't watch that Jurassic World trailer with the sound on. Why? You're better off. Because some of the crap that comes out of Chris Pratt's face. Not good. It's not his fault, he didn't write it. Not good. But he's not a good actor there too. He's like, I won, he's like, I wonder what kind of dinosaurs there cooking up in that lab. He said that. You heard that, right? Mm-hm. Yeah it's not. It's bad news. Somebody put up on Reddit it was Jurassic Parks and Rec with Andy. Okay. That I though was pretty damn funny. Already better. Yeah. See that's all they've gotta do is call it that and I'll watch it. But yeah, the Star Wars trailer came out, I think it was on Thursday last week? Yeah. Thursday or Friday. A lot of scrutiny. Everyone watching this with a very. Fine microscope. So what did we learn from this? That people are freaking excited for Star Wars Seven. They are. Well. The trailer doesn't show you much. Play, play some of this trailer. You know what? You know what? It's not that bad. The trailer itself? I think these movies might be good. It, it's like you get about what? 25 seconds of actual video? A lot of fade-to-blacks in this. Not one white dissolve, which is upsetting. Yeah, a lot of fade to black, and we get a couple of glimpses of things, and you got what seems to be a fudgesicle go by. [LAUGH] That is a fudgesicle! So yeah, it, it's, it just looks good, and when I say looks good I mean like, you know, the graphics, the CG. Well, here's the thing that got everybody super freaking excited. It's this lightsaber. Is it a lightsaber? Yeah. Lightsabers usually don't have, like, the flames. Right? At the end? There's flame. Kinda does, kind like a little fluttering at the end of it. It was, like, this flame. Cuz that's supposed to be on the hilt, like there's actually a guard of it. [LAUGH] People like, that's so cool. Kinda like when Darth Maul had the double lightsaber. Right. Cuz I remember when I saw it I was like That was really cool. That's so cool, how did they think of that? It's like, well, it's just two of them. Right. It's just, it's just a double-edged lightsaber. But it just looks so cool. But yeah, the music at the end. Just gets you all excited and Gets you tingly. And at the end there's this little noise, you hear the lightsaber turning on, like [NOISE] Yeah, like okay, I'm pretty freaking jaded when it comes to Star Wars. Right. I went to the theater to watch the first trailer for Episode I, which Bridgette Carrie, talked to her about it last week, she just mercilessly teased me for that, which As she should And I totally agree with her, cuz I'm like damn, that was pretty dumb. But I was a kid, so. Whatever. All right, I mean, so pass or fail? Are you, are you looking forward to this movie? I kinda am. I guess I kinda am. I don't know if I'm gonna see it in the theater though. It's one of those you know, it's tough, like, I, I, I, he's done such a, a good job with the. Star Trek movies, Mm hm. he really did. Been really accessible, considering. They're very good. So I, I, he, it's almost gonna be impossible for him to **** up Star Wars given the legacy of the source material. Yeah, there's, there is the He has so many awesome things at his disposal and a seemingly endless budget. He just can't **** it up. The other thing is the fun part of these, these this new trilogy is that you don't really necessarily know where it's going. Right. Versus when they did the prequels, you're like well. You know where it's heading. It's like oh there's a little boy. Oh, he's Anakin. Right. Oh he's the guy. He's gonna be the- Darth Vader, right. But this, you got no idea what's going on initially. But do they bring Darth Vader back? From the dead. Sure, why not?>> Do they bring obi wan kenobi who seemingly turns into [LAUGH] a robe during his death scene? Well, no, he leaves the robe to go naked. But when he's dead, he's got his robe, which is weird. If you watch that scene where he dies, quote unquote. They just, someone just like, drops a robe on the floor You can see the stage hand running over there. Right. And it's like, boop. And that's it. I, I just wonder about this. Like, I mean. Okay, so you got these dead people. This is just regular Star Wars like que, questions. Mm-hm. They die. You see them hanging out by the fire, right. Like, there's Anakin. And there's Ben Kenobi. And there's like, is Yoda dead at the end of the one? I don't remember. They're all like holograms, right? Where are they? Like, where are they broadcasting from? Like, yeah so like if they're just hanging out kinda like by this fire, can you ever just access them? I think you can So are they, they're not dead Don't, don't try and explain things that don't have a [UNKNOWN] I'm not trying to explain it, I'm literally asking you because this is coming to me like. Cuz they bring him back. That is the least of that movies problems. Well why not? Bring back Darth Vader cuz he's like just happened to be on another plane? That'd be pretty freaking neat. You just gotta like up and just bring back, they should bring back like no Nubs. Just Nubs I mean. [LAUGH] All cut up. Just the, just the organic matter? [LAUGH] Yeah. Like his head. This is jar. Let's just do that. His head and what not. I think, I think you're mixing Futurama in. Right. [LAUGH] I would, I would freaking love that. That'd be great. I saw an excellent film, the best movie of of 2014 in my opinion over the weekend. Interstellar? Nope, didn't see that. I haven't seen that either. Yeah, I want to see that but I did see bird man. I heard that's really good. Birdman's really good. I think you'd love that Arial. Oh yeah? You should go check it out. Go see Birdman. What's it about? Birdman is about. Michael Keaton plays an actor who in, previously in his career played a super hero. Not unlike Michael Keaton who played Batman at one point in his career. It's about an older actor who tries to. You know, invigorate, reinvigorate his career by putting on a Broadway show, at the St. James theater here in Manhattan. And it's just about that. I'm not gonna, give anything else away. It's like. But there's a lot of magic in the movie. It's like Charlie Kaufmann meets David Lynch. Mm. Really good stuff. Does this movie have to be seen in a theater, or do you think this is like- No. Or do you think is is all right on Blu-ray? You could see it when it comes out, but for me, it was like I actually couldn't wait to see it. That's how, and the cool thing about Birdman was I used to have a bad habit of really hyping up movies for myself. I'd be like man, there's like, after I see this nothing else will matter. But, and I kind of did that with Birdman. I let the excitement get away from me a little bit. Well you [CROSSTALK] And it delivered Oh, that's freaking awesome. 94% on the Tomato meter. **** the tomato meter. It don't matter, I don't care Hey! 94%, that does matter. It seriously matters. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's just good, and you need to see it. I don't know if it's playing everywhere. But man is this a fantastic film. See I was dumb enough [UNKNOWN] oh is this Harvey Birdman. Is he going to play that. I wish there a Harvey Birdman. I kinda though. He play this superhero. Maybe he'll play Harvey Birdman. This not related to him. totally separate character. Different Birdman. Yeah Birdman. You gotta go see it man. Edward. Great Cast. Edward Norton Zach Galifianakis. Obviously Michael Keaton, Emma Stone, Naomi Watts. Top notch, top notch acting and directing and writing. Lot of fun. Two enthusiastic thumbs up. By yourself. Usually it's one guy gives it a thumb the other guy is like no Nope. Both my thumbs. All about myself. Who's got two thumbs and is excited about Birdman? That guy. Yeah. Go check it out. Go check it out. All right speaking of film here's a strange story. Here's a strange, strange story and it's a controversy that's been going on for a couple weeks now. Everyone's aware of the film from, coming out from Seth Rogen and James Franco called The Interview where it's about two seemingly you know, I guess buffoony sort of guys. Yeah, they're like, they're buffoons. These characters, you're right, they want to do an interview with ,. Is it Kim Jong Un? Kim Jong Un, and they and they, and they want the, the object for them is to kill Kim Jong Un. Yeah, they're being approached by the CIA. They're like oh, we want you to take care of him. The trailer's pretty funny. It's like okay, this seems like this is gonna be quite goofy. It's the same kind of stuff you expect from, from Rogen and Franco. Right, so that movie aside, obviously the people of North Korea, well. I don't think the people of North Korea know about this movie, but the leaders of North Korea were, vocally, objective to this film. They, they didn't want somebody to put it out because they're supreme leader, Kim Jong-un, is the target of the film. So, they're like no, don't do that it's offensive. They, they even claimed it to be an act of war. Everything is an act of war though. Alright. So a couple days ago Sony Pictures was hacked. Mm-hm And some of their yet to be released films were sort of posted to the internet and, and leaked out and now there is an investigation ongoing and believe it or not. There is a growing amount of speculation and bits of evidence that would point North Korea as the culprit. Wow! Ok, this sounds too freaking crazy to believe, but also sounds completely acceptable or realistic considering it would be North Korea. I don't think North Korea thinks that anything's off the table when it comes to just how they act. It's like they really don't get that they get what they want They kinda don't care. They kinda don't care. So why would this be beyond. Their repertoire of, of, of aggression. Why not? I'm just definitely is this. You know we, we talked about this a bit and I was thinking what if this is a publicity stunt by Sony. [CROSSTALK] It's a fake being hacked? [CROSSTALK] [UNKNOWN] Interview? No, no, not not once FBI is involved. Come on, dude. FBI is involved now. [CROSSTALK] Sony gets hacked like what, every year? I'm sure multiple times a month. It's like, it's like thanks giving. It comes every year, they got a huge thing came out, [UNKNOWN] was leaked, couple of other movies. About the idea that North Korea is implicated or, at least, it looks like that it was somebody from North Korea that's doing this. How crazy is that? It's, we've, It's not crazy at all, though. It's so crazy that it must be true. We wrote about it. C/net wrote about it. Really interesting stuff what's coming out of the FBI. Rico wrote about it, says. You know, people don't typically think of North Korea as a serious threat in the cyber warfare, front, but it has stepped up it's game in recent years. Numerous security and intelligence researchers have actually stitched together a narrative of how North Korea's military hackers operate. And using all this reporting and researching. They are able to sorta put something together that might. Now there is no definitive smoking gun. But it might point the finger at North Korea. Well if they want to up their game they shouldn't be like found. That the first thing. Right. This is them, this is them upping their game where there still kinda trace in what a week. Right. Oh yeah by the way. Sony pictures hacked and here comes, oh it's North Korea. Why? Because you actually have motive. That's the dumbest thing. The motive of this is to what? Potentially destroy the film that's been recorded and like it's on a hard drive somewhere. Well no they can't destroy the film. I think the motive is to have Sony lose money. [CROSSTALK] The motive isn't to just like light the film on fire digitally. Wait a second. It's to destroy the You don't think potential money making, revenue. You don't think that's what they were going for in the first place and they were like No, no, no. In the directory they were like finish copying and they're like delete. Why won't it delete recycle bin. Right click. Empty recycle bin. It's not [UNKNOWN]. If they're smart enough to hack their way into Sony. Pictures which apparently even North Korea can do. They, they're not dumb enough to think that they could like somehow steal it and burn it. They could destroy the last scene over and over and over again. It'd be hilarious. Or how about this? They re-edit their own version. And then have that released? And upload that and somehow that's what gets printed and distributed to the thousands of American theaters. That should happen. That's a better line, that's a better plot than what the interview is. Cuz this interview movie I just don't know about it. I, yeah, that movie's going to be I think stupid fun. I don't think there's. I don't think anyone's really going like. To see that anyway. But it pisses of North Korea to this point where they're like, we're gonna go after Sony for this. It's crazy. I wonder what Sony's thinking. They're like, okay, well okay, in the whole Playstation hack a couple years ago and nobody trusted us. Oh, we put that root kit thing on CD's. Oh, you forgave us. Cool. Nobody's buying our TV's we're not making a lot of money, but we got the PlayStation 4, it's pretty cool, right? We got Spiderman, that's pretty cool. And now, and now they've got to worry about North freaking Korea hacking them? Like, could you imagine like Kanza Rai in his office like, just, he must be flipping tables, like. It's like why? No, he's, no Why? You're making a bigger deal, it's not that big of a deal. You think Sony needs this kind of **** now? They don't, they don't need it. Nobody needs a hack, especially from North Korea. It's just like a thorn in your side. It's just a, look They're a private company. They're not like some government, they shouldn't have to be worried about governments. It is revenue. Com, you know, a, a compromise to their revenues definitely Mm-hm. a possibility. But it's cray, I mean they leaked out a lot of films. They leaked out Fury, Still Alice, Annie. They redid Annie, did you hear that? Yes, I've seen the trailers for it. Mr. Turner and To Write Love On Her Arms which Sounds like a classic waiting to happen. Yeah, for sure. It's crazy. I, And now the FBI's involved. But this is not beyond North Korea. That's what's, like you said, it's so crazy, It must be. It's got to be true. It must be true. He hangs out with Dennis Rodman, he's got the pleasure squads. You know, he's like, he does whatever he wants. Like they're there. There are, this is not the Pleasure Squad. Oh, I thought you put up a picture of the Pleasure Squad. No, I don't have a picture of the Pleasure Squad. But I do have pictures of Dennis Rodman. And can we enlighten our, our listeners. What do we believe the Pleasure Squad to be? The Pleasure Squad. Okay, so I'm going to go through this. Sure. It's a. There's nothing to really be laughing about. [CROSSTALK] This is a group of women that are enlist to provide entertainment and sexual services for like military and their leaders.>> It's just like a North Korean thing.>> The fact that it's got a term is even Pretty messed up>> There was like an interview with one of the. A former member of the pleasure squad. It's just kind of, Upsetting. I mean, it sounds like a superhero team, but it's a, not exactly. Yeah. That kind of think. Yeah. So yeah there you go. So yeah this is not beyond the scope. Yeah they do have a history of just awful things. Including hacking Sony. All right. Potentially. Allegedly. We'll see what plays out. It's a strange it's a, it's a totally strange story but we'll see how it plays out. All right, do we have time for one more? maybe. No? Let's do a call, man. You wanna do, oh, right. I wanna do a call from the public. That's right. Oh, right. I love the public. Hey, I know our mailbox is full. I gotta fix that. But before it was filled to capacity, we did a get a voicemail. From someone about organ transplants and definitive proof about whether or not it does posses you. Okay? So let's do this call from the public. Time to show a little love. Call me. 866-404-CNET. [MUSIC] . [NOISE] Alright, calls from the public time. Let's hear what this dude has to say. Hi guys, it's Matt from Minnesota. I was hearing you talk about the transplant stuff. hm. And thought I should call in and I've had lung transplant and a kidney transplant. Hm. And I can assure you I am not possessed but however my tastes have changed slightly. I used to be a Sprite addict and now I really can't stand Sprite so much so,. That's my wisdom there. Have a good day. Bye. well, that's not a bad trade off at all. [LAUGH] He was an addict before. He's really into Sprite. It wasn't like he just kinda thinks it's no good. It cures, it cured his sugar addiction. He can't handle, he doesn't like Sprite anymore. So maybe there is some possession there. That's a great trade off. You get to live. Kidney and lung transplant, Jesus. That's nuts [CROSSTALK] But no sprite. I'm okay with that- Is that worth living? yeah. I'm sorry I'm just kidding by the way. Congratulations on succeeding in those- That's amazing. Very traumatic surgeries. Kidney and lung. Damn. That's amazing. That's crazy, right? Yeah. I know what he's thankful for. Sprite. [LAUGH] All right, that will do it for us today. 866-404-CNET, that's the phone number, give us a call. I will unblock the I will empty out, rather, the voicemail. [LAUGH] It wasn't blocked. You got the do not disturb button on there, you're like, eh. It wasn't blocked, don't worry about that, don't worry about that. I just gotta empty it out. And then participate in the contest we got going on to win. A one terabyte Call of Duty Xbox One bundle and then stay tuned for the rest of this week's shows. Lot of crazy things happening, so hope to share the menace with each and every one of you. Follow us on Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, and Instagram. Until tomorrow, I'm Jeff Bakalar. I'm Iyaz Akhtar. I'm Ariel Nunez. This has been the 404 show, high tech, low brow. Have an awesome Tuesday, we'll see you tomorrow. [MUSIC] It has begun. That was a hell