Hell froze over again: iTunes is coming to the Windows Store (Apple Byte Extra Crunchy, Ep. 84)
Hell froze over again: iTunes is coming to the Windows Store (Apple Byte Extra Crunchy, Ep. 84)
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Hell froze over again: iTunes is coming to the Windows Store (Apple Byte Extra Crunchy, Ep. 84)

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[MUSIC] We're coming at you live! It's the Apple Byte Extra Crunchy Podcast with your host, Mr. Brian Tom! Bumping to the beat at an undisclosed location. It's the Apple Byte Extra Crunchy episode 84, everybody. Thanks so much for hanging out with us, and For all of our loyal Apple Byte nation, thanks for sticking around, because this show is all about you. Again, if you want to be part of the show, call us at 1-800-616-2638. Leave us your name, where you're from, and just get right to it. Tons of comments, calls this week. We love it, you guys keep this show alive, so thank you so much for that. And again, this is a compliment to our Apple Byte Video podcast that comes out once a week. It's about a five, six minute video show but this is the place with audio where we could really dig into it and also we livestream it as it happens, typically on either Thursday or Friday depending on our schedule, around 2 PM. So that's Periscope, YouTube, livestream, we're all there. So That's how it is. Are you doing all right today man? I'm doing good man, how you doing? I'm doing good. I miss you, but I'm going to see you next week very soon. Next week Google io everybody. Google io. But this is an Apple show, they don't want to hear about that. [LAUGH] We cover it all. We do, we do. Alright let's jump into the show and this is. This is kind of a weird week, this week. I think this is a week where anything is possible, and we kick it off with Microsoft had their Build conference. It's their developers conferences over in Seattle today, and one of the announcements that, it was real funny, they were announcing new key partners for Windows 10 and they showed off Spotify, and the crowd was like, okay that's cool, and then all of a sudden they said, and they had a slide, and an image to verify it That iTunes is coming to the windows store. [SOUND] At the end of this year, like you didnt even say, theres a tweet that they put out there from Microsoft. Yes. Coming out iTunes on the windows store, and so when I first read that, my first reaction was like, hell froze over for a second time, because This has been referenced a long time ago for some of the Apple heads, and people are like, why are you even saying that? But people that know, I'm gonna give you a little history lesson here. Steve Jobs long ago when they had introduced iTunes, iTunes had been out I believe for about a year and a half or so. And earlier he had said He'd kind of joked that you'll never see it on Windows until hell freezes over. So, then finally he did announce that iTunes was coming to the Windows platform. This is because of the success of the iPod. And he had a graphic that said, hell froze over. So, this is kinda the second time it's happened where iTunes has now been on a Windows platform. I'm gonna tell you right now Beach You know me. I love my iPad Pro. I'm a religious iPad Pro user, but man it kind of makes me think if they have iTunes directly on that device. Like the surface Pro5 let's say. Yeah. It becomes compelling. Because my ecosystem hooks are pretty much Almost all there other than iMessage. I get all the media is there and it's native to the Windows 10 platform. I'm just I don't know it's kind of exciting in a weird way that I might give it a chance because I love the iPad. But man the iOS for the iPad is it needs to do more. Yeah I got excited about this too but then. A lot of the apps that come in the Windows Store, they're half-baked a little bit. They don't look as great as a regular app on Windows. You know what I mean? I know. They're kind of generic, they look a little generic. So- I mean I, yeah. At first I was excited and then I was like, but it's probably gonna look kind of weird- [LAUGH] And I don't know if it's gonna function properly, cuz I use iTunes on Windows all the time and it has issues. It has a lot of bugs. Mine makes that noise all the time, it goes [SOUND] like I'm done syncing or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just randomly does that all the time for some reason. I'm waiting for an update to fix that. So, I'm excited but at the same time it depends on what it's going to look like and how well it's going to function for me. Yeah, and people are saying, hey Itunes has already been on Windows. We know that. But I'm talking about like natively to the Windows store. Yeah, it's totally different. Like the tablet. They see a tablet type version. Totally, I don't want to say seamlessly integrated because it's not. It has that really true native look and feel to the modern Windows 10. So let me just at least say, I probably won't jump over, but it gave me that pause, right? For that moment, I just paused, like man, maybe I would consider this? And that's what they're trying to do, right, they're trying to turn people like me into. If the Surface Pro is truly that much better than There will be people beyond me that might just jump over. So anyways, iTunes coming to the Windows Store by the end of the year. And then in another announcement, this time with Amazon, like this has been going on for at least I swear two, three years. AI wars. We're in the middle of the AI wars. [LAUGH] Yeah, we are, but like this announcement, according to BuzzFeed Says. And there were rumors about this earlier this week. Apple will announce that Amazon Prime, the video app, Amazon Prime Video, will be coming to the Apple TV sometime in the summer. And will be announced at WWDC. This is the first report that outright says. We will see the Amazon Prime video app on the Apple TV. Sorry I spoke too quickly. I thought you were gonna talk about the Echo show. I know you did. You were getting ahead of us. Amazon Prime video on Apple TV. That's awesome man. They've been keeping those things apart for a long time and it's apart time that they get together. Well, there's always been this weird thing like, is there a beep between the companies? Because, right, Apple is very sensitive about putting, competing, multimedia store fronts that have apps on their platforms. And according to sources, a report had earlier said that both Sorry, Steve. Tim Cook and Jeff Bezos had actually met to just kind of grind it out and say like, let's just do this thing. You gotta put the top birds in the room, right? And they said, let's just do it. Okay, it's gonna happen. So I think this is exciting cuz that's one of those kind of missing pieces that's on every platform when you're talking about video streaming services. It would just was on apple TV. So I'm glad they got their heads out of their butts and live the damn thing. Yeah, totally. I would love to be a fly on the wall during that meeting with Tim [UNKNOWN]. It's gonna be some crazy conversation that they're having there like, how's your spaceship going? Cool yeah. How's your billion dollar, trillion dollar fund. [UNKNOWN] Rich guy talk. Hey you want to do an Amazon Prime video or not? [LAUGH] [LAUGH] So let's do that yeah. How's your Prime air drones going? It's doing awesome. Yeah we'll be able to deliver your phones via drone in the next year or so. Yeah that's cool. Hey you want to talk about Amazon Prime or not? Yeah yeah, what's up with the Apple car? Is that happening? No, it's not? I'm sorry, my bad. Another big that that Amazon dropped, and Steve was talking just right directly to it, the Amazon Echo Show is their new, really It is their new echo product but with a video screen that is basically kind of like what we imagine from video phone from like the eighties and nineties could be but what makes it special or what makes it smarter the echo platform is completely integrated into it wide screen touch screen the big rectangular speaker on the bottom and you can use it for calls so. Let's say Grandma and Grandpa, Mom and Dad, cross country. You can make video phone calls directly through. It has a video camera as well. I polled people on Twitter just to see how excited they were, because quite honestly I wasn't super juiced about this. I'm not the type that's going to have a, I don't I already have FaceTime on my phone, and I feel like if you have just this sitting video screen that you could get called any time. It's kinda like. Yeah. And I already have an Echo, right? Yeah, I wasn't excited about it either. It seems like, I don't know. We have so many ways to call right now. [CROSSTALK] And I think, trust me, I'm not knocking the video for by any means, I think this is gonna do pretty well, the thing is it's gonna retail at $230. If I recall right, I think cuz I haven't bought it in awhile, I think the standard Amazon Echo is around 150, 160, is that right? Am I totally off? You guys and gals can correct me. Yeah, I think it's probably a little less now. They keep lowering the price on everything. The Echo Dot is going down in price too. Yeah, that one's 50 bucks. Yeah, yeah, but I had the same reaction as you. I was not excited. I'm like, another thing, another screen. It's not that great. And it would be cool, If you could connect it to your television maybe and then say, Amazon Prime play this movie or something. And it just starts playing a movie for you and it replaces your Echo Dot and the other Echo products. That would be cool but I didn't really I haven't looked that much into it, to be honest. It didn't, it's one of those things where I love, I'm the Echo's, I'm Amazon's biggest fan when it comes to the whole Echo platform. But it was one of those things where I'm like, do I really need this right now? And the answer for me right now Is no. I even, let me see if I can put up this poll. You won't be able to see it but I'm just hoping that the results will load up. But I asked people on my Twitter, the Amazon Echo Show. I like to do, instead of a yes or no, I like to do, yas or pass. What do you think about that. [LAUGH] I like that. Yas or pass. That's way more fun, yeah 22% said yes, 63% said passed, 15% said Google home users, that was out of 350 votes so more about two thirds of people like [UNKNOWN] pass on it. But I think If I wanted to get my mom and dad and I had kids and be able to really easily just do something like that I could see how it does fit a need. But I don't think it's gonna sell nearly as much as a regular Echo. It's just not. No well actually last night I was just lying in bed. Going though my phone and I saw that the Amazon Echo app had updated. It completely changed. The artwork and everything changed. And I went through it and it started almost like it was taking me through setting up my Echo Dot all over. Over again, sort of? It's kind of taking me through this thing. And then it asks for my phone number, so I can make phone calls. And I quickly was like, no, no way, I don't want that. [LAUGH] No way, I do not want people calling me on my Echo. So, immediately, I was not happy, or didn't want to do it. So quick thing, we are going to talk about how this connects to Apple. But there were reports that basically, Amazon Had invested in this startup called Nucleus that has a video-type phone product that can be stuck on walls and whatnot. And then, essentially, kind of clone its product for the new Echo. And I get it, again, Amazon invested money in Nucleus and Some people are a little annoyed. I didn't even know what quite honestly right I'll be the first to say I didn't even know what a nucleus was until I read about this story. But a lot of times in the tech world it's like saying the Samsung Galaxy copied the iPhone copied the Samsung Galaxy which copied the iPhone. It gets to the point where, look the reason why this is different is it has the Echo guts and brains inside of it, and that's gonna always make a lot of these products that might be the same. You put in a different platform in it or a different Echo system, like Apple's Echo system, that's what can make a product that might be normal, more special, because of those hooks. Yeah, true, true. So here's the fun [INAUDIBLE] about this. So the Echo show was announced I believe on Tuesday of this past week. But right before that over the weekend, Phil Schiller did an interview with a website called Gadgets 360. Now, in this interview he was basically asked, how is What do you think about voice assistance like the Amazon Echo, like the Google Home. And here's what he had to say, now he basically, let me just get to his first thing. The first thing he said in response to that is, my mother. Told me. My mother used to have a saying. This is his quote when asked about the Google Home and Amazon's Echo. My mother used to have a saying that if you don't have something nice to say, say nothing at all. What? That. [LAUGH] [INAUDIBLE] hockey jerk's response. Like come on, dude. Someone's asking you about voice assistants and you can't even comment. Like right off the bat on the state of [UNKNOWN] you just go in on them like yeah first of all if you're the VP of marketing for one of the top ten. Tech companies over the world. You've got to do better than that. You can't be a d-bag. But he chose to be a d-bag. Sounds like he's a little defensive. Like he's almost borderline worried because Siri is not as hot so it's interesting. So then they went to ask him to elaborate about voice assistance and he did make an interesting point now. He talked. This is what he says. There's many moments where a voice assistant is really beneficial, but that doesn't mean you never want a screen. So the idea of not having a screen I don't think suits many situations. And what he's basically saying is if you have these voice assistants out there, you should have a screen on them. Yeah. And so. Guess who dropped like literally three days later after he said this, a voice assistant with a scream, Amazon did. [LAUGH] And I know he's also relaying like hey our phones which have screens have a voice assistant, but I'm like Phil you're just jealous like you can't talk You know what about another company. When they've had something that is probably in the most exciting space in consumer tech we've seen in a while. You have nothing to show for two years and you're talking junk about Amazon and Google Home? That's so petty. That is so petty. I completely disagree with him, because he's saying you need a screen. I mean Like I use my echo that a lot. I talk to it a lot, it does a lot of things for me and I'm all like way far away from it across the room. Sometimes even upstairs or you just sound my phones or something. But a lot, 99% of time I'm not looking at a screen. I'm just yelling I'm just yelling things at the Echo. So I think he's wrong, I disagree with him on that. The only thing I wish that the Echo had on it was actually just some sort of visual clock. So sometimes I'm not in view of a clock, yeah I know, you've got your phone on you and whatnot. But Its, I wish it just had like, I could see the time on it or something. So, anyways, this all building up because Apple is rumored to be doing a Siri speaker of their own. That could potentially have a video screen on it, that would be a Siri based speaker. And look, we don't know if it's going to happen at all. Right now Echos have grabbed 70% of the US market in voice assisted speakers. Okay, that is beast. That is a lot. Google accounts for the rest. All right, so Apple again, we've talked about this a while ago. Apple's gonna be a third player on the market. I typically. There's really only room for two, and then the third is always kinda like there. Google's getting more device support. Google's actually smarter but it's just not as practical right now. Google's home is the smarter of the two based on the algorithm. But I mean, come on, for Apple to talk junk like that, this is the stuff that drives me crazy like They are still acting like the cocky we do everything the best, when they don't. Yeah, yeah. I mean he's saying, wouldn't it be cool without a screen and then also their laptops don't need to have touch screens. So there's just a lot of disconnect there, you know? And, I don't, we'll see how it plays out. I am actually really curious about WWDC because, look Apple hasn't really released too many new products this year yet. It's like everything is starting to stack up towards the second half of the year. We're talking about we haven't seen iPad's. We haven't seen Mac Book Pros. We haven't seen Mac. We haven't seen Apple Watch. We haven't seen iPhone. We won't most likely see Mac Pro. Apple TV maybe, I mean there's So many things like this could just be a bang, bang, bang, summer release all the way to the fall. If you get pretty wild so, but I'm just waiting for Apple to drop something on us instead of complaining about other companies for doing something that they haven't done. Yeah, we're like almost, half the year is almost over. It's almost six months in and- That's what I'm talking about. So they're just gonna like They are going to just drop a bunch of stuff on us and just try to dominate the conversation for the second half of the year. That's probably what's gonna happen. We will see. We will see. I mean. We'll see. Microsoft build had a lot of cool stuff today. That works with everything too, like Timeline, you can be on your phone and Cortona, it will work on iPhone, Android, everywhere. You can pick up where you left off, so there's a lot of cool competition happening. I'm curious to see what Apple's going to do. Lot shaken. All right, let's transition over a little bit to the Apple watch. This is a really cool report coming out from Tech Crunch Basically, a study, or research study conducted by the University of California in San Francisco and the team behind the Cardiogram App, has found that Apple's, the Apple Watch has built in heart monitor, is 97% accurate when detecting the most common form of an abnormal heart rhythm when paired with an algorithm to sort through the data. So They're basically saying that the tech on the Apple Watch is good enough to be able to detect abnormal heart rhythms. Heart arrhythmia, as we've heard the term. There were 6,158 participants in the study. They all used the cardiogram app on the Apple Watch to monitor their heart rate. Most were known to have normal EKG readings but 200 of them suffer from irregular heartbeat. So, I just found this fascinating because we talk about the accuracy of some of these fitness devices. I still personally based on my experience. Feel like the Fitbit is a better fitness actual step tracker than the Apple Watch. I've used them both on multiple hikes, compared the final result of distance covered to the official distance of trails but when it comes to and they both have heart rate sensors on it. But I just found this really compelling from a standpoint of Apple's trying to Continue to push these health and wellness initiatives. And this is just another thing, a quiver right that they have that they can just say look we have the best of x, y, and z and everyone is wearing this stuff. So I like that. We're starting to see not the sexiest stuff but when it comes to this real medical. Science, not only proof of concept but proof that it works. It's starting to make these devices across the board whether it's Apple or other companies, make them more useful. And quite honestly potentially lifesaving. More, something like that, that's important. You know they're getting close to just being in all hospitals. Being, your EKG, you're not gonna have a bunch of wires connected to you, you're just gonna have an Apple watch on. They're getting closer to that, and that's really cool. Even with Apple's Health App, they're basically taking all this data pulled from your devices and from your apps, and trying to throw it all into one single app that you could maybe Use whether it's medical history or what your current situation or your past readings of the past two weeks. When you go to a physician and show them this stuff, that they can actually just look at right away and be like, okay. This is the data that I need. It's kinda crazy where this could potentially go. So. Yeah. I'm on board with it. It's just not sexy, but it's cool. And another health/wellness story. Apple has acquired Beddit. It's the iPhone-connected sleep monitoring system, and so what this is, this was like this long strip that you put on your bed between your mattress and then like the top blankets. And it basically measures like your respiration, Heart rate, movement, snoring, room temperature, room humidity, all those thins like that. And then gives you that data to the iPhone. It's being sold in Apple stores right now. Wow. Yeah, for $150, but Apple acquired the company. Wow, cool. So I just feel that this is another thing As they're trying to build up this whole health and wellness. We know- This is gonna be in hospitals too man. You're gonna be wearing your Apple Watch with this [UNKNOWN] thing. I mean, they're gonna be in every hospital in America, I'm predicting right now. That's my prediction. [LAUGH] Well I'll tell you I could tell you my [UNKNOWN] readings for you right now. Please. Vigorous activity. Did you break about it? No, no, no. [LAUGH] Honestly I'd be completely lying right now. It's just not true, it's just not true, it's not true. It's like, their baddest activities like, little Wessy goes to sleep at 9 or 10 PM. [LAUGH] I don't go to sleep that early. You might got to sleep that early cuz you got kids. Yeah By 10 AM I'm fried. You can't even get me up out of anywhere. [LAUGH] So, anyways I thought that would be really cool. Yeah, Apple acquires this company called Betit, so it'll be interesting to see. That's something that will be put together with them down the line, but they're starting to build a lot of stuff. Let's jump over to iPhone 7. And a fun little report, just in case you guys are wondering what's going on with Apple. Is the sky falling? We aren't selling as many units. According to Strategy Analytics, the Apple iPhone 7 was the top smelling, smelling [LAUGH] Top selling Smells great. It also smells, it also smells The top selling smartphone during the first quarter of 2017 despite a year-over-year drop in sales they estimated that the iPhone 7 accounted for 6.1% of total smartphones while the iPhone 7 Plus captured 4.9% that would be for the Q1 of 2017 so that's January through March. What's interesting Is that in third place was a phone from Asia called the Oppo R9 and if you look up what the Oppo R9 looks like it looks like a complete knock-off of the iPhone 7 Is that pictured in here, in this article? It's not in the article What is it again Arpo? Arpo what? It's the O-P-P-O R9 but this cracks me up because it's like maybe people that Our [UNKNOWN] thought it was the iPhone bought it because it's also cheaper, don't get me wrong. But it's from an Asian company. The Galaxy S8 did not come out until April. So that's not included in this numbers. But there you go.>> Yeah. [UNKNOWN] It looks like an iPhone. Looks exactly like an iPhone but kind of like with an Android button on the bottom Yeah, we do wanna finish up at least with our stories before we get to our calls with the iPhone 8 stuff. [INAUDIBLE] if you can I want you to queue up the video instead of the article, cuz this is the latest. This is a video rendering of the new, what is believed to be the new iPhone 8 based on the most current Leaked cat images. This is brought to us from Onleaks and Gear India. Well what it is is this. There you go. There it is. It looks like a single slate of glass. But what's interesting is if you look at the top where the camera sensors are it looks different. You have the rear protruding camera on the back that. I mean I'm like dude, Apple, can't you just not make the camera protrude anymore? Can you just do something about that? That's not the case, but there's an article that I put in here that basically shows off that the camera sensors are going to be in the top of the phone. But they kind of jut out and If you look at some of the images that are out there, you'll see what I mean. It looks different where it's not a clean back line until you actually use the phone. If you have the wallpaper, you'll have this kind of like little trapezoid coming out from the top of your phone and then when you unlock it, you'll kind of have a steady black bar with all the wi-fi and your cell signal And your battery life on that top bar. You'll see. Just go look it up but I don't know, i'm curious how this iPhone 8 really shapes up. We know, everything we've seen and we just have to wait for it to be confirmed. Because it feels like we really know. A lot about this already. I still kind of wish that they put the little button, there's one button on the side that's like turn off your iPhone. I wish they remove that back to the top because when every time I try to turn it off I end up like hitting the volume and- [LAUGH] I can't turn my screen off because I'm accidentally hitting the volume and it's very annoying so I wish they will put that button back at the top. That's That's my wish Apple, thank you.>> [LAUGHS], wishes, by Steven Beetomb.>> [LAUGHS].>> Dear, Apple, and then just a couple two quick bullet points that report from JP Morgan says that Apple is expected ro bring in an enhanced receiver. So that, and what the audio receiver what that will help is with better stereo sound. And potentially even better water proofing, but. it's kind of a no brainer right now, this next phone has to have a IP68. Plenty of phones have that including phones with headphone jacks actually have an IP68 rating. But Apple doesn't and they don't have a headphone jack so, they've got to do that. And then last rumor, who knows if this is true or not, a lot of reports are saying that because of supply shortages and problems of the production line that has slowed down this because. Of the new design, of the new screens. Even the sensor related issues of getting that technology in lock down, it could potentially see the iPhone eight ship out in October November instead of the September time frame. That's cutting it very close. Yeah. To the holiday season so we'll see. We'll see how it all shakes out but again those are just iPhone rumors. I don't want to talk about them anymore because we're probably sick of them by now right? [LAUGH] No way man I can't get enough. Give me more. Who wants more? Who wants mo? Mo iPhone rumors. Okay should we get to the phone calls? Yes let's do it. Thank you guys. Thank you everybody who called in. We got a lot of good voicemails. And here's the first one. Hey, It's Kiera from Ohio again. And my question is what's up with Apple and their new design of Apple 8. It's not really impressive. I don't really like the design of the The camera will. Yeah, so that's basically my only question, and also Apple hasn't really impressed me lately. I don't know. I'm not too impressed. That's my thoughts. Have a nice day. Bye. She is not impressed. Man. Just reminds me of that picture of the Olympian from the team USA on the gymnastics squad from [LAUGH] You remember that? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Not impressed. Jared hey, the thing is that I think no matter what if you're an Apple lover and you're in the ecosystem I think people get giddy about new phones. [LAUGH] There you go. Good pull Beach. Yeah, not impressed. Yeah, not impressed. I think people are gonna like this phone either way. I think they might poo poo on the seven s, and seven s plus. But I'm just more bored because this is all rumor and speculation. But a lot of it is probably pretty close to what it's gonna be like. And we just hear it every, we will continue to hear Through September and possibly October November. And I was like there's got to be more to life than that. Yeah yeah. There's got to be. They will sell more than the iPhone 7 though right? They always do. Okay next call. Hey Beach, hey Brian it's me Jon from Southern Minnesota. I was just wondering about like the new Apple AirPlay series speaker, whatever you think they are going to call it. Do you think it'll be branded under apple or Beats? Since like Beats makes speakers like the Beats Pill and the [UNKNOWN] whatnot. So do you think it'll be branded under Beats or under Apple? Thanks, have a good one. That's a good question. Thanks for the call. Yeah, you know what? I think no matter what, if it's a Siri-based speaker, it's gonna be an Apple product. I think they'll tout that there's Beats technology, right? They might have their beats, Yeah, totally. [LAUGH] Equalizer settings in an app. Some of that hardware stuff and they're fine. That's fine, that can be beats whatever, but it's gonna be in an Apple branded speaker. If it looks like kind of what the, what is it called? Is it the UE boom? That's just kinda like a cylinder. With a mesh speaker around it. Okay, we've seen that before. I just, again, 70% of smart speakers, Amazon owns right now. I wonder how much that number will change because I think the general consensus at least in the text-based is that Siri is not that great, but to the general consumer that doesn't pay attention to that, I think they might think, Siri's great. A lot of people are gonna be buying this thing that haven't experienced these AI products. And Apple is gonna be their first introduction to it. That's what's always kinda crazy when you take a step back and think about, what about my mom, or my grandparents? They're gonna be like, you know the headline? Apple makes a smart speaker, and there's a majority of people who feel this is the first smart speaker they have ever heard of, and Apple made it. True, true. [INAUDIBLE] He makes a good prediction though. Can you can bet down the line, maybe even next year. Beats will have one. And it's be like, with Apple Home With Apple Home inside and Siri inside and everything. So they probably will make one in the future, just I don't think it's gonna be Apple's flagship AI speaker. [BLANK_AUDIO] I mean someone in my Periscope just said my parents are still confused by the Echo, so there's room for innovation. And I think it's just some people trust the idea that Apple made something so I'm gonna learn about it. And my phone's an Apple, so yeah, I'll learn about this, whereas You tell someone like hey, Amazon made a smart speaker. Outside of the tech world they're gonna be like, how do I use it? I don't wanna learn those commands. I don't get it. But then, all of a sudden, you put the Apple name on it and they're like, yeah, I'll figure this out, right? There's a psychology and mentality that works that way. Yeah, my dad is afraid of the Echo. He's like, that thing is recording me right now. He's like, I don't wanna be around it. He's afraid of it, it's funny. And then he's read a lot of- [CROSSTALK] Yeah, I don't know what he would do. I don't think he would have any kind of speaker in his house that's listening to him. He's- It would really be funny though, Beach, if Apple releases one. He's like hey, Steve, you hear about the Apple Smart Speaker? [LAUGH] Bro. Yeah dad. He doesnt even like his picture online anywhere, like if I put something on Facebook he's like no no no, I never do it so, that's how he is. Okay, next call. Lets see, here we go Okay, Apple Byte, this is Wes in Atlanta. I'm actually just, had a question. I happen to be looking through 9to5Mac, and it's talking about iOS 11. Do you think they're finally gonna do split screen on the Plus? When are we gonna get that? I love to just watch YouTube videos, or watch the Apply Byte as I'm also looking on 9to5mac.dom. Anyway, love you guys, love the show, thanks. You mean as you're reading cnet.com? [LAUGH] Yes, please. Which gets a lot of it's Apple scoops from 9 to 5. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] You know what? If they do split screen on the iPhone, obviously we'd hope it'd at least be on the Plus. But to beat some points in multiple shows, they still haven't given us Horus on a freaking landscape iTunes. I know [LAUGH] come on, please. So, pathetic, dude. It's easy to deal. So bad. It's like, seriously, why can't I use the iPhone in landscape mode on the home screen on just a plus and not the freaking regular iPhone? I hate that. I think that is so lame. That's one of the lamest things. Just make it the same. So yeah, you can do it on the iPad, split screen. That's one of the exclusive features to iOS on the iPad, but I would like that very much, too. I agree. I've actually never tried split screen on an iPad. I'd be curious to see how that works, but. It works nice. It's really easy, straightforward. Okay, cool. Okay, next call. [BLANK_AUDIO] Hey guys, it's Ryan from Sacramento. I wanted to get your opinion on the Touch ID sensor, which currently on iPhone 7 and past iPhones. Can work kinda sketchy. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't and I still it had about 75% success rate. It depends whether your hands are sweaty, wet, dirty Anyways I was wanting to know if they end up putting it underneath the glass on the new iPhone 8 or the iPhone Future. Do you think the reliability will be a little bit better or you think it will still be sketchy because it's a new technology and maybe have a few issues with it since maybe it's one of the first phones that puts it underneath the glass? Love the show guys. Look forward to your opinion, thanks. [BLANK_AUDIO] I think that, I just think that the touch ID sensor, is going to be the same sensor there. It's going to pop up on the rear. So, I really think that accuracy wise, it's most likely going to be the same. And I'm sorry if you have sweaty fingers maybe our Apple Byte or, [CROSSTALK] maybe got a sweaty finger thing. He's right, like after you get off the shower, or you wash the dishes, or something, you can't unlock your phone unless you type in the number- It's [INAUDIBLE] true, but I think that underneath the glass, the reason why we aren't seeing any true confirmations of it is because like to your point, The accuracy is gonna have to be a lot better when it's through glass, right? This is using optics to, and even some of the pattern reports talk about how there's audio signals that are sending vibrations to kind of read the base of your finger and the different imperfections that identify you. Like, this is not easy stuff, right? And I would never be like, Apple, you couldn't get on the front screen. Samsung had over a year to do it. They couldn't do it in the Galaxy S8 product. We'll see if they even get it into the Note 8 in time. Apple is kind of facing the same issue that this is just not as easy as people thought. And this is some of the challenges that technology has. I hope they can do it because they really need something to tout that we have actual hardware technological feature that are more advanced than what is right now, the best phone on the market and they can get the Galaxy S8, from a technology stand point. And for Apple to really claim and make, have bragging rights that we're the best and be able to back it up because that's what they always say, they need to do something like that so If they don't, I'm not gonna not buy the next iPhone. I still think the fingerprint sensor on the back, I have a Google Pixel, it works perfectly fine. I like it there, it's not that big of a deal. But I know, yes, ideally, get it on the front, get it on the home screen. We'll just have to see if they do it or not. Yeah, that sensor he's talking about, and you were talking about, with the audio signals? With the very, I feel Like, we don't know how well that's gonna do, but it seems like it would be a little more accurate than the optical way that it's working now if it's using like a frequency to measure your finger. I don't know. We'd have to test it out to see, but to me I feel like it could be more accurate than what we have now. So. Okay, I need to address a comment. Someone wrote in the periscope. I think his name was Ken [UNKNOWN]. Like sweaty fingers from watching the warriors lose 3-1 to the Cavs. Come on man. Why people burning us still on that? [LAUGH] It's so petty. Who's your team? For reals, who's your team? You don't got a team. The team sucks. Is it looking like the Warriors are gonna meet the Cavs again? It's kinda looking that way. Right? Well, I'm not one to jump ahead, but it looks pretty strong. [LAUGH] Rematch! That would be fun to watch. It'll be fun, it'll be fun. Okay, we have one more call. Here we go. Hello I'm Nelson from West Chester, Ohio with a question. Is the Pixel XL, the bigger one, is it still relevant at this time or should I wait until Google comes out with its next phone? Thanks, see you then. Love your videos. All right, bye-bye. Cool, so- Bro, is this the Apple Byte or the Google Byte? This ain't no Googlicious. It's the Applicious. What just happened? [LAUGH] No, it was funny. We put this call in because we were like, people are calling the Apply Byte Show about Google phones now. I mean that's how far Apple has drifted from their audience. So, I just thought it was interesting. Maybe we should do a show that covers all things in this- [LAUGH] [INAUDIBLE] We could, we could. No look, quick because we show love and look I'm not just an Apple freak. The timing, don't get a new pixel now. Wait for the next one. It should be getting announced in the next three or four months. We already saw their first entry in the market which, quite honestly to me, was an amazing first entry because they came up with two things that no one had. The best voice assistant On planet Earth and still to this day, based on the rankings, the best camera in a smartphone, on that phone, on the Google Pixel. Wait for the next gen. You shouldn't need to buy one now and call back with an Apple question next week. I do have to point out though that Vanessa Hand Orellana did a video Pixel versus iPhone, and the iPhone camera, or video, video camera was better on the iPhone Plus, than the Pixel. Correct, based on how they shot it, I'm gonna- Based on, yeah, they did video at nighttime, on a boat, and some really difficult settings, so. Yeah, if you want the camera, it's camera, video, it's kind of a tussle there. It's like most people, let's be real. No matter what you tell people about a camera, it's not like everyone bought a Google Pixel cuz it has the best rate of camera based on both results and actual metrics, like visual results and actual Metrics. It had the best camera, but it didn't. Look did everyone buy a Google pixel? No, but a good amount. It was a great start for Google. I mean I'm like, I was impressed. Their first in-house phone. We should, I think we will end the show because we are not talking about Apple anymore. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Cool, yeah. All right everybody. Excellent, thanks so much. Again, you guys and gals can call us, love all the calls that were sent in. Thanks so much again, that number is 1-800-616-2638. It's the Apple Byte, extra crunchy, extra munchy. We will start when we get back in the studio, maybe taking some live tweets, so be ready for that. Beecham, tell all the good people goodbye. Thanks for watching everyone, we'll see you next week. And have a good day. All right, peace everybody, take care, be safe. [UNKNOWN] [MUSIC]

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