We tracked down the guy who made that amazing hamster wheel contraption (Tomorrow Daily 391)
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We tracked down the guy who made that amazing hamster wheel contraption (Tomorrow Daily 391)

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On today's show, we deep dive into advanced prosthetic arms for humans, artificial muscles for robots, apartments in a box. And of course, interactive walls to decorate your apartment in a box. And then we go visit Neil Mendoza to see his hamster powered hamster machine. Yeah. If you can dream it, you can do it. Tomorrow daily. [MUSIC] Greetings citizens of the internet. Welcome to tomorrow daily. And the best tech talk show in the known universe. I'm Ashley Esqueda. And I'm Jeff Cannata. It's a deep dive show. Have we done one? I feel like we haven't done one in a really long time. We haven't, and we have really awesome topics today. We really do. It's so cool. And we got to go see The hamster powered, hamster drawing machine. [LAUGH] Seriously guys, this is like, highlight. This is a real highlight of my life. I love that when we can talk about- Meeting Steve Wozniak, seeing the hamster machine. They're like right there. [LAUGH] We could talk about how technology is gonna actually improve our lives, we can talk about aspirationally, and then we can talk about the silly side. That's my favorite episodes. Yeah, these are, and this is going to be one of those episodes. Said selected headlines. [MUSIC] All right, let's talk about Luke, formerly Deka. Yeah, this is gonna actually change the world in a. In a very positive way, and super cool. This is the much more dexterous. Extremely dexterous. You can see, this is from DARPAtv, they are using the arm in testing, and you could see he's picking up eggs and moving them to the other carton without smooshing them. And that is pretty incredible stuff for prosthetics to be able to sort of have The ability to grip such a delicate object. So the egg is obviously one of the holy grails of prosthetic grip. Right. And this is a big deal. I mean the thing that's amazing to me about this, is it looks like a man wearing a plastic glove. Sure. Right? I mean, it looks like he's got a real useable hand and arm. It's incredible how far we've come. And what it's going to allow for amputees or people with the need for this kind of thing. To have much more functionality, and able to use things that are designed for people with two hands. Yeah, absolutely, and one of the cool things about Luke is that this arm is the first prosthetic arm that has been approved for commercial markets that Translates muscle signals into motion on the hand and arm. And it is modular. So you're not only able to have, if you just need the hand part you can just do that. If you need the second half you can do that up to the elbow and then there is also a shoulder module Including like a humerus, so you could actually get a full arm- A full range of motion. If you need it, which is pretty amazing stuff. And there's some things that it can do that really are kind of difficult to do. It can reach behind or overhead, which is a really big deal. Yeah. It can lift up a bag of groceries from the floor to perpendicular to your body. So it can lift up quite high, which is really Impressive stuff. It's kind of amazing. I wonder how much of this is we're gonna get to the point of human functionality and then progress beyond human functionality. Where- Super human- These will have the ability to do things that a regular human arm could not do. Yeah, I am really curious about your opinion on this because this kind of leads me to my next Question is at what point do prosthetics become better than the human body to the point where we begin replacing our body parts with robot parts? That is an excellent question and it's something that I think about a lot. I mean, I think we are going to get to that point. We'll get there. [CROSSTALK] It will be, it will almost not make since to keep your regular human arm. Right. I mean, I hope that doesn't sound insensitive to people with the actual challenge of that situation in their life. But, You kind of get to the point where it's like, if we could start replacing body parts with parts that you don't lose anything but you just gain some. Just gains, right. Wow. But then you still have to go through the trauma of Path, like there was a guy who really was adamant that he, the people were sort of like what is it called? Where they don't believe their body part is part of their body? Yeah, phantom limb syndrome. And they feel that it's like, it's an outsider. It doesn't belong there, it shouldn't be there. And they are very adamant about that. This is a great option for people afflicted with that. But also, of course, like then you have to think about even beyond robot, arms, and legs, and limbs becoming better than our human parts. The next [UNKNOWN] would be getting by, like, a bio arms. And [CROSSTALK] like Growing in arms is better Growing in arms is better. Yeah. Like, I mean, it's really an interesting stuff and I find it all And we're right on the cusp of it. Terribly fascinating. This is happening. I know, we're right there. And these are big sort of morality questions almost of what we're going to be able to do to the human body with the human body going forward. So the Olympics are coming up, Jeff. Here's a hypothetical for you. In 50 or 40 years, let's say prosthetic arms and legs are 100% No question, better than a regular human limb. Right. It can perform and do everything, no problem. Yes or no athletes in the Olympics with bionic limbs. I mean you've gotta say- Have you seen Oscar Pistorius run? So- Right. That's already happened You've got to section that out, right, they've got to compete among people Or enhanced, then it's an enhanced Olympics. exactly. And we see the crazy things people are willing to do to their bodies to cheat now Yeah, that's true. And will there be- And also just enhance them, or decorate them, or, you know. Well I mean, we see this, there's an a doping scandal happening in this Olympics, with Russia. Every year in sports all over the place. If you get to the To the point where you can create artificial lens that you can't detect? Yes. And you don't need to dope. Biological and you can just. What happened? You guys, who knows. I don't know. It's a real question and I'm really, I'm curious about that, that's a conversation that I love having. So I'm sure we'll continue that matter. But at this point, let's be clear. This is a purely positive step. This project is really to help people that otherwise wouldn't have the ability to have two arms, two hands. Sure. Pretty cool. Sure, yeah, 100%. All right, real briefly, we'll touch on robo-muscles. So robo-muscles, I love these artificial muscles. These are sort of filaments that they've mounted them on a human skeleton, which is slightly terrifying. Yeah. Definitely gives me just minor nightmares, not big time nightmares. [LAUGH] And they, so yeah, they mount it on an This amazing thing where they're like we want to replicate human movement for robots. It's very fluid. It's a lot better and a lot lighter than having pistons and servos inside a robot body which would help the robot obviously move more human like in a way and that is pretty interesting stuff. Yeah. The idea of really kind of reconstructing the human for step by piece by step. Boy. Boy. Interesting stuff. It's fascinating and terrifying. [CROSSTALK] It's all becoming Terminator. Or maybe it's all becoming, maybe it's all becoming utopian, who knows. Okay, so Jay wrote in, user feedback, with some good user feedback. Jay wrote in and actually made me laugh. He said use the force Luke. I just saved myself $100,000, and I can make phone calls. Look at that. So he's gonna pick that up, he's gonna dial. What year is he making that phone call in, by the way? I know, yeah. That phone looks like it came straight out of 1992. [LAUGH] He also has a time machine. Jay also has a time machine. Bedjam wrote in, and he said, I'm just waiting for the Luke Legs. So I can replace my Ankles. I'm tired of ankle pain. So that's one thing to think about. Yeah. Actually, a great point how- Chronic pain. Really bad joints are in every part of the human body. They kind of break down, guys. Yeah! To be able to have joints that never tire and never break down? Boy. That sounds great. I would appreciate that. As somebody with bad knees, yeah I'm all on board. I want robot legs immediately. Yeah. Okay, so let's talk about apartments in a box. Nobody wants to play with apartments in a box. It's so true. And living walls, because I think they're both kind of Two sides of the same coin. So Ori, named after origami, is an apartment in a box, we talked about this on Tuesday. This is pretty amazing in it's sort of concept, this is a This is a born at MIT media lab. This is where it was developed and then the company hired Yves Behar to design it. Which it's every well designed, it's beautiful. Something that you certainly don't think of. This is the bed. When you think of like a Murphy bed. Yeah. In like an old apartment where it's like the bed comes out of the wall like in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Like this is the 21st century version of that. This is really cool. So yeah so first she's asleep, she wakes up, she moves the wall over, and then she has a living room. Then she moves the wall back now she's gonna get ready. So she's done getting ready. She's like okay I got my clothes setup for the day. Now we move this wall again and I'm gonna use my office. So she's using three different locations all with the same piece of furniture. I would like to say that this would be my dream because I can move the walls out of the way and have my bigger VR space. Yeah. I think this is cool, it really is just one big Piece that slides around your house. A motorized piece, yeah. Right. And it also requires when you pull it out like that, you're not able to add furniture or anything. It's not exactly->> Right, it's just part of the machine, that's it. And that's cool to be able to say, I need more space here for something. Right. For the moment, and slide that wall. But it actually doesn't give you much more functionality because you're not able to Utilize that space. I mean- You can't say I'm gonna move my bed to the other side of the room. Yeah, right. It's just it has to all be in that- And also who of us isn't gonna have clothes on the floor? It's like I tried to move the wall, but my Stupid thing was in the way. Well there's sensors, so it'll stop if there's a person, or if there's something in the way it will- Cat. Yeah, a cat. Where's the cat? I think it's in the wall. He's stuck in the bed. [LAUGH] Yeah this is really interesting because of the rise of sort of micro apartments. Yeah Then a new big thing that we're seeing in a lot of cities here in the US and also I think, overseas as well, it's been popular in Japan for a while, sort of like a capsule hotel but it's a really small apartment space around two hundred square feet, they're not very big, it's like a studio This would be a great way to capitalize on that space, if building contractors bought these and implemented them into their apartments right away, and then charged a premium for rent. I could see that happening. I gotta be honest with you, I think this is super cool but I suspect in practice I would very rarely move my wall. Yeah, I mean, you're probably right but if you lived in a 200 square foot apartment, you'd move your wall probably more. I'd have a hard time living in a 200 square apartment. I know, I think about that too and am like that's just too little Space but a lot of people this is like a big trend. You got small houses that are mobile. There's all kinds of sort of micro housing happening right now. Not just apartments but houses, little houses. At a certain point it becomes essential when we We keep over populating. Yeah exactly, and it's like this is becoming more and more popular to do and I think that things like this are just gonna get more refined, they'll get more lighter weight, they'll be more modular. It'll be neat if you can sort of design your own Yeah. On Orry's website and you sort of order one. But yeah, this is almost like a pre-fabricated apartment furniture. And I kinda dig it and I'm also kind of, I'm a little skeptical, but I can see AirBnB. That would be a really big draw. Interesting. Like if you had an AirBnB apartment. Yeah. If you just had a really tiny space, this seems like it would be really Helpful, but otherwise I don't know. I mean obviously I wouldn't have it in my house. But that's cuz it's a house. Right. And so I'm just kind of like well, I get it and it's cool. But I don't know. As I said on Tuesday, I think these kinds of ideas, a lot of them are gonna be thrown at the wall. But the best ones will stick and we'll see how small spaces are able to be more accommodating to human life. Yeah and I think we're getting better and better at it you see these great organizational stuff online and stuff. Hey TD, Jay wrote in and said "Ori's robot is a cool concept but how can I bring a girl over with out her thinking I'm Quagmire Even though I really am. Giggity. [LAUGH] Yeah, he has the Murphy bed. Yeah the Murphy Bed. And then Evan wrote in, just on a side note, about the star ship robots. The autonomous delivery robots. Yeah. He wrote in and told us StarshipRobots are already feeling at home at Walton College and University of Arkansas. So there are apparently some Starship autonomous robots happening here in the states which is pretty cool. It's neat that he's seen them already. Yeah, super awesome. Okay so really briefly, of going with the apartment thing let's talk about this living wall. This is so cool. I love this. ESI Design has this in, gosh, what's the building called? It's called Terrell Place. There it is, right there in Washington D.C. You can see the walls through the big windows as you walk by, but this is what they look like and, when people walk through The cherry blossoms. There's a breeze. You cause the breeze that moves the cherry blossoms. There's a section kinda like this at LAX now. That is pretty striking as well. You get on this elevator, and there is a huge wall. [UNKNOWN]. This, the ability to have these screens be so vibrant, and change as you walk by them. Yeah. I think it's really cool. It makes me feel something. Yeah. You know? Yeah, it's very evocative. Yeah. And it's not. Is that? That's awesome. Just so everybody knows, it's not a projection. I think some people when I was looking around at comments, some people were like this is a projection, and I'm like no, no, no, this is LED screens. Right. These are mounted LED screens, they're very high definition, and there is actually a diffuser in front of them so that the brightness is not so in your face all the time But that's how they make it look so smooth and so beautiful. This is, I mean, really, that wall, the main wall I think is 80 feet long. Wow. It is a huge, it's 1,7000 square feet of wall space. I love how the reaction of people moving through. Yeah. Like that lady stopped there and it kind of swarmed around her and then the People as they walk through. Then it disperses. Yeah.>> So neat. It's really cool, and this is the kind of stuff where I'm like this is the future I want. You ready? Man, I have wanted interactive walls ever since I was a kid. Even when I was like 16, I went to this restaurant in Denver. This is a really weird anecdote. I went to this restaurant in Denver. I don't remember what it was called, but you walk in and all the walls have videos playing on them, and you sit in one of three locations. You could sit in the Serengeti. You could sit in Atlantis. And then, I can't remember what the third one was. But when you sat, for example, in the Serengeti, the sun would rise and set And you'd watch the animals come down to the watering hole like actual African animals, as if you were on a safari. And it was so beautiful, and the trees were swaying in the breeze and everything. Wow. And ever since then, I'm like I just want walls that are alive. That would be so great. [LAUGH] It reminds me of that black mirror episode, where the people that live in the pods and it just, it turns on the day for them. Turns the day on, shows them everything, yeah, totally. Is that the one with the reality show involved? Yeah where they're riding on the stationary bikes? The points and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but it's really great stuff and it's really interesting. And honestly one of those things where that's the kind of stuff where I go gosh, that's the future. That's it. It's amazing that LED screens have become inexpensive enough that that's an actual It's a reality. [CROSSTALK] Yeah, exactly. And also that they're so high def that you can't tell there are some panels happening there, which is unbelievable. Okay. We're going to take a quick break. We're going to come back and we're going to be in an art gallery. [LAUGH] We're just going to snap our fingers like wizards and we're going to apparate over to a gallery where we will be interviewing. Artist, designer, Neil Mendoza, about this, again guys, I'm so excited. His thing that he makes. He makes a thing. The hamster-powered, hamster drawing machine. And maybe, maybe something else. So, stick around. It's Tomorrow Daily. [BLANK_AUDIO] [MUSIC] Welcome back to the show, everybody. Today, we are here in the Pacific Design Center in Los Angeles, California, and we found the man behind the hamster-powered hamster drawing machine. Hamster-powered hamster drawing machines, right here in front of us. Right here in front of us, we're looking right at it in real life, and Neil Mendoza is the artist and designer behind that. Thank you, first of all, for letting us come here and check out the hamster and the machine. The power hamster and drawing machine. No problem at all. Yeah, so we have to ask you why this? What made you think this was a great project to embark on? Cuz it seems like it was really a lot of work to make happen. It was a lot of work. It kind of evolved into being what it is today. It started off with kind of a fascination with drawing machines and the ability to encode complicated drawings into mechanical devices. So the drawing of the hamster is encoded into the shape of the wheels around the outside. So I started becoming a bit interested in that and then I built a drawing machine which worked, then I was like, what on earth is this thing going to draw. [LAUGH] And so a hamster seemed good, there's not really enough hamster art out there so I made well we agree. So I made a hamster drawing machine then I'm like I didn't want people [UNKNOWN] around with it it, but hamster drawing machine then should be powered by a hamster. So you've came up with the idea to draw a hamster before you thought up of powering it with a hamster? I think so. It's kind of, the memory of it varies. It's all around the same time, sort of same view. Yeah. Your website has a lot of project that sort of incorporates The intersection of digital and mechanical technologies, and when did you first start kind of getting into that as a medium, because it's a really interesting medium that I think that not a lot of people think of when they think of art. I don't think That combination is really prevalent, and so to see something like this is hey really delightful. Like people are, I mean we were overjoyed to see it in person. It's so exciting and new and it feels really fresh. So what started you down that path? I think I've always liked tinkering since I was a kid, like taking things, pieces and putting them back together again but then I went to University, and studied Computer Science and kind of, resigned myself to a career kind of like, in a grey cubicle but then after going A bit like a hamster, I guess. Yeah, a bit like a hamster, resign yourself to a [LAUGH] [CROSSTALK] But then like, at some point I came across like different people doing interesting staff with technology and code and sought of trying into it myself and I already had some experience making, you know doing programming in electronics so then I took that experience, I guess, and started applying it to To "art making". So what is the process of creating and drawing a machine like this. It's such a simple thing to turn a circle into a complicated drawing of a hamster. And that's sarcasm. So simple. You're like, "It's such a simple thing!" No it goes from a simple circle into Into. Yea, no that's very true. something more complicated. So how does one How does one go about making a hamster drawing machine? Yeah, how do you help a hamster draw itself? [LAUGH] Yeah. I use a piece of open source software called openFrameworks and it's a coding framework that allows you to easily make creative stuff, like computer graphics or sound or take inputs and then I made a physics simulation of the drawing arm part of the machine. Then I used that physics simulation to trace out where the wheels would need to be if the pen was in the correct place. And then I ended up with these two circular drawings and then I used a machine called a CNC machine which is basically like a big robot to Cut out wood for me and that's how you would go about it. But originally I cut out these two parts of the machine just out of wood and then tried to make them all rotate together but they were far too flimsy so then the whole thing is sitting on a big aluminum circle behind it with the kind of chain you get in your bicycle stands between it. Yeah give it some weight. Stiffness. Wow. Right. I love the idea of you iterating on this idea over and over until you created what you wanted. And then you had to employ the labor of the hamster, who is just taking a break. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's exhausting. You gotta run that wheel, I can barely run down a flight of stairs. It's hard work. Maybe he's gone to post his selfie on Instagram. That's true. Maybe he's really into social media. Does The hamster have its own social media account is a great question. As far as I know no but it's not actually my hamster. So the real guardians of the hamster would have the true answer for that. This hamster feels like a celebrity does the hamster have a name. Joe Gi What kind of reaction have you been getting to this piece? I mean people are really like happy, I think, it's just, it's like, they really like Interested in how the drawing machine part of it works and then they're just really happy to see the whole thing come together. I mean they like to keep it interesting to shift between the two parts of it and then take it in as a whole and be kind of like wow that's really cute. It's interesting because from one perspective you could look at it as almost a A cage that he is forced to have this, this kinda terrantical rule team before constantly making an image of himself or, it could be this really joyous happy experience, like the people take the ladder. I mean, I kind of like it to be open to interpretation, so if you wanna like interpret it as a kind of comment on Evil captivism. [LAUGH] Interpret it as just nonsense. You can also do that. Whimsical happiness. That's how I interpret it. Whimsical happiness.. You also have another piece here. That is really interesting in that, I don't even know how to describe it. There's a microphone that picks up your words And then it will project, throw your words literally on to a screen and then there's a foot that can kick your words and there's also another receptacle that if it catches a word it will actually say the word out loud. Let's talk a little bit about that as well because. You know one of those machines. [LAUGH] Because I just love these just fantastical sort of contraptions that you put together using technology. This is really fascinating to me. And how you kinda come up with the idea on how to embark on these projects In my wildest dreams, I don't think of anything quite like that, and so- And both of them have sort of a Rube Goldberg-esque feel to them. Very much. Yeah, you mean, how do I get those kind of ideas in things? Yeah, that and, also, if you wanna talk a little bit about that particular project, like I'd love to hear about how That even came together because it just seems like there's a lot of, for lack of a better, like moving parts, to it even though it's throwing words around. So first of all, where do you find inspiration for things, how you Kind of decide on a path to take for a project. I mean, I think today a lot of time, you take technology for granted. Say you use Siri on your iPhone. It's doing probably more complicated stuff than my [UNKNOWN] is doing, but I think it's really good to Deconstruct that kind of stuff and make people think about technology. And realize that a lot of the ways we use it is arbitrary. And get them to re-engage with it from a kind of different thing anew. I guess that's one of the things I try to do with my work is to make people realize that a lot of technology we use today is kind of arbitrary and dictated to us. Companies who have their own agenda. So making I guess random nonsense to reignite people's interest in technology around us is one reason why I make. I guess that particular piece started with voice recognition technology and kind of trying to Maybe, yeah, show people the inside of how one of their systems might work or get people to re-engage with that a little bit more. And, then, I guess just went down some kind of surreal nonsense path. I'm not sure- A bit of a Monty Python- It's very abstract Monty Python-esque- Like in the beginning with the animated bits it feels a little Yeah. I mean I think I was playing around with two things at the same time and they ended up becoming one project like showing people the inside of [UNKNOWN] 's brain possibly and also like this idea of combining projection with physical objects. So the words fly out the thing and the actual robot foot can kick them I like kind of this interplay between the physical and digital. Because often we spend our time staring at the screen kind of absorbed in this kind of virtual world. Where I think it's nice to kind of try and bring people back to three-dimensional reality, but mix the two up at the same time because there's really interesting things you can do with [UNKNOWN] computer graphics as well. Do you find yourself interested at all in augmented reality and virtual reality because that's a new upcoming thing? Is that something your interested in taking your art and design too?. A little bit, yeah. I actually did some projects with that. A few years back, like a [UNKNOWN] reality project before it was cool. Before [UNKNOWN] came out. [UNKNOWN] It was fun, it's a fun toy. It still feels a little bit gimmicky, I mean Pokemon girl might be the first company that she kind of built, a killer app for. Kind of seems that way. But the thing I don't really like about virtual reality is yeah, kind of like takes you away from the world. It kind of enables escape, but it's fun for gaming and stuff. But I think with my work, I want people to engage with the moment rather than escaping the moment and yeah, even though maybe People will be able to create a lot of important stuff in virtual worlds. It's still gonna be created by people. And if you're looking at cities, they're all just big rectangular boxes. Right. I think it's much easier also to connect with people on an emotional level if you're making actual three dimensional stuff. Like we've evolved, kind of Interact and perceive the world in three dimensions, so maybe virtual reality is gonna get rid of that barrier and we'll trick our brains in to thinking we're in some kind of three dimensional virtual space. But anyway. Someday. Someday. Well you certainly provoked a lot of emotional happiness Yeah. And our viewers too, I'm so glad that we got to actually see this in person, like very exciting for us. And thank you for talking to us about your project and your art. And if you want to check out Neil's work, you can go to neilmendoza.com. We'll have all the information on the website too. And that's it for our interview. We are going to take a quick break and then we're going to magically appear back in the studio and continue to show. So stick around- it's Tomorrow Daily! [MUSIC] Welcome back to the show. We're back on the set. That was delightful. That was Whimsical, it was great. Thank you again to Neil Mendoza for taking the time and letting us come down to the gallery and talk to you because, really, again, that's what dreams are made of. [LAUGH] Do you want to talk a little bit about a crowd fund that you might have some interest in? Man, I'm excited about this One and let's do back it or hack it. [MUSIC] Tron fans get lit, they woke. You're talking about me. I forgot. Let's talk about the Cyclotron, cuz this is really freaking cool. This is a spokeless bicycle. Yeah, look, it's the light cycle. I know, it's a light cycle, I was so excited. Okay, so this, it's hubless. Hubless wheels You're not gonna be putting lights on your spokes because it already has some lights. Got them, done. Tires. Pre-lit. Air-less tires. Look at that. And they work for over 6,000 miles. I want that, want it. Active LED tail lights. They got lighting in the rims, obviously, that's really cool. Don't recommend biking in the dark, but. Yeah, but with those, I would. I would do it. It's made of carbon fiber. it is. the wheels are made out of a polymer so they're airless. Eighteen speeds to you can actually take it up hills and stuff. There's a smartphone mount. There's all sorts of stuff going on. The cable is all run through the frame so Look at how>> so clean. Look at how beautiful that is. Man. I want it. I love this This bicycle. Okay, I got one question for you Ashley. Okay. How much is it gonna cost me? How much, okay. Why don't you take a guess first? I'm gonna guess $3,000. [LAUGH] Okay, that actually was my first thought as well. It's about 1300 bucks. Hey! Like half of what I thought it was gonna be. Less than half. Still more than what I'd like it to be. But if you want the fully loaded version, if you wanna get the Ludacris mode version of this bike, the highest model, 2500. Yeah, see, so closer to what I thought. Yeah, I mean I'm sure all the video is of the Ludacris version as well. But it's a working prototype. The video, it is a working prototype. You can, it's real, it's not a joke. It's really awesome. And, you know, you pedal, it has no motor. It's just, it's a bicycle that looks rad. Yep, really cool, and- And bikes are not cheap anyway, you know, it's not like you can go out and get a nice, you know- A nice 18-speed, like a really nice one, probably will cost you about 1,000 bucks. I love biking. I have several bikes, but I don't know a lot about them. I'm not one of those bike expert guys. What does an airless tire consist, like what is that? Is it gonna be hard for me to replace the tires on this thing? Great question. What are airless tires? This is a great question. So They're talking about the shape of the bike. I'm looking through this Kickstarter, because I sw that earlier. Yeah. They were talking about the tires and why they were so fantastic. They have, they even have a child seat system. FYI. [LAUGH] So you can just mount. You're little baby-tron. Get your babies cyclotron, on. Yeah So yeah, these wheels are, they're made of polymer, they're hard. Interesting. [CROSSTALK] There's no air, yeah, they're airless so it's basically, they're very easy to sort of Like not, you can't puncture them. Like it's sort of self repairing polymers type of thing. Well, I'm in, I'm back in this bad boy. I mean, I don't really wanna spend that kind of cold hard cash on it. But if I had the cold hard cash I would certainly consider it because this thing is real cool looking. Real cool looking.>>If you back the bike, they're going to do demo days for backers in major cities where you can come test out the bike and if you don't like it, they said they'll refund your money.>>Oh that's cool.>>No questions asked.>>I like that.>> Kind of nice. That's sort of an added perk. And with that being said, because I feel like. So many times have you backed something on Kickstarter, you really just have no idea what you're gonna get. No. And it's like, this might look really cool in concept and with the prototype, and then you get something and you're like, this is not what I was expecting. Yeah. I think it's awesome that you're doing that, and so I will say If you have the funds, I'm gonna go back it. Yeah. It's pretty [CROSSTALK] Of course, I don't have the funds, so I'm not gonna be backing this bike. But if I did, I would totally back it. But if they wanted to invite us to a demo day, we'd both love to try it. They are based in LA, much like the, much like Neil. Based in Los Angeles, so we may have to Cyclotron. Make a couple phone calls and have a cyclotron night race. I mean that would be pretty great. Amazing. Psychol Tron [UNKNOWN]. Hey Psychol Tron call us. Two host in a horrible night biking tragedy. Two host were killed. In a tron [UNKNOWN] biking accident. Where they both decentagrated. Cause your going to fast. Terrible we were moving to fast. But little do they know we just traveled in time. Yea man that would be so great. So, that's the cyclotron. You can check it out on Kickstarter and it's really cool. It's so cool looking. It really is neat. Let's talk about into it. Yeah. [MUSIC] You know, I thought a lot about what I was into this week. Yeah. And you know I don't play Pokemon Go. I'm sure a lot of people are shocked by that. I have never played a Pokemon game in all my life. I would think you you would love them what with your love of pets. I know. Your love of adorable tiny things. You like dragons? Never got into it, never got into it. And so I have been watching the craze from afar. Yeah. Very greatly enjoying it. I'm definitely not one of the curmudgeons who's got my cane out like get off my damn lawn. Can I say something that- Stop chasing the Pokemon. It has been a joy Walking around my neighborhood, because my wife and I go on walk because she's pregnant and so we're going on walks and stuff. And seeing kids with their phones and be walking up to a kid and say "catch any?" and their like no he knows. Its like a secret club. My wife is so impressed with me because I'm so hip and cool. Your cool now. Touch with the eight year olds. They're cool now. Yeah. You got it going on. High five to eight year olds. So my intuit this week has been really creative Pokemon Go players, very specifically, this guy from Reddit, who is using a drone to catch Pokemon. What? First of all, this man is a genius. And he put together, he's got a drone. He attached his smartphone to it and then he's using AirDroid to send the screen cap of his screen as he's flying around and he's capturing Pokemon while he's flying. It's totally cheating. Leave it to us nerds to figure out a way to get the one video game that forces you to walk and figure out how to do it. Cheat the system. And not walk. He's like, this whole walking part of Pokemon Go. How about go Pokemon stay. How about that? He's like I'm gonna pack that. Pokemon chill. It ain't no Pokemon Go. It's Pokemon fly. This guy. Pokemon drone. No Pokemon go. I was reading an article about this pizzeria in New York that decided that they just wanted to use Pokemon to Improve their sales, and so they literally just, as part of their marketing strategy they bought lures. And were just like, tons of people. And they said they had a 30% uptake in pizza sales. Brilliant. And now they're gonna be doing, I think I read this morning, they're gonna be doing, they're gonna allow companies to do sponsored. Gyms or sponsored content inside the GPS. It's brilliant. It's really genius. How many web developers right now working on All of them. Working on Pokemon Go type app that's going to sell? All of them. All of them. Because it's not Pokemon. Yeah It's not like these apps didn't exist before this, they just didn't exist with that IP. Exactly. And here's the thing, people are not understanding I think, is that AR is not why this game is successful, it's successful because it's Pokemon. Like there's very different things. This is a beloved, 25 year old franchise, Yes. That people are obsessed with to this day. And people have been obsessed with when they were kids, it's a never ending life long love of that franchise, so to bring to AR was just enabling people to play it on the computers and the console they carry with the most. Right. There you go. But it's awesome. But it's pretty amazing. And also, yeah, like totally high five to that guy for just being the best ever. He is the very best. Like- I don't know. Make no mistake. I'm not on board with this. Using a drone to catch Pokemon, the very best. Don't be droning your Pokemons. Go get them. Catch them all. Well, my into it is another thing that has been in the headlines recently. A lot of controversy, I think silly. And has been loved for over 25 years, 30 years. Indeed. By this guy with the thumbs. And it's the Ghostbusters reboot. I got a chance to see it early. I was nervous. I was nervous when I went and see it, because I heard- Cautiously optimistic. What did you say? Cautiously optimistic. I loved it! You loved it! It was so fun. I'm so happy. That's a relief. It was a blast. I laughed so frequently, so hard. I really enjoy all these actresses. I think that, I'm a fan of Saturday Night Live. Kate McKinnon, can do no wrong. She is hilarious. She is my spirit animal in this movie. I see her and I'm like that is everything I've ever, right there, that's everything I've ever wanted to be in life. She is so great. She does this dance sequence. I don't know if it's any of the trailers. No. I don't want watch any trailers. She does a dance sequence with two blowtorches that is so funny. She is so great. And Leslie Jones is hilarious in it. I was laughing a lot. I was having a great time. The special effects are awesome. I actually really recommend people seeing this in 3D. I don't usually say that. I would not have expected that, yeah. But they do all kinds of really cool things where it's letter boxed but the 3D will blast past the letter boxing. So it's sort of like almost the Gift. That they split up to make it look like there's even more 3D. Yeah. That's so cool. It's great. All the ghost busting is really fun. I had some minor quibbles with it. There are things I didn't love. That moment's great. Too bad they ruined it in the trailer. But overall, really fun, I am a fanatic for Ghostbusters, so I. I've loved Ghostbusters since I was a kid and I wanted to be Egon, really bad. Like I just loved Egon. He's the greatest. He's great. And then when they did the cartoon and he had blonde hair I got even more excited because I'm like My God Egon's blonde, yeah. And then, now seeing Kate McKinnon be this sort of like re you know reincarnated version of an Egon like it just warms my heart to the point where I'm like Man, if I was a little girl, that would've been my jam through and through. It's cool too, because she's not doing a Harold Ramis thing. Sure. She's doing her own thing. She's just a weirdo. Yeah. [LAUGH] And it's really great. And bless her for being weird. I loved it. I know a lot of people hate, but man, I went in worried, And I had a great time. So if you're worried about it just try it. Give it a shot. Give it a shot. I had so much fun. Give it an honest chance. I laughed a lot. Give it an honest chance. Yeah. That's all we're saying. Well I'm so glad you like it. I get to see it on Saturday. Yeah. I'm gonna go take a friend to the show, Michael Hobbs, for his birthday. I think you're gonna dig it. Which was yesterday. Happy Birthday, Mike! That's your birthday shout out. Even though it was yesterday, I'm sorry. [laughs] Alright, that's it for Intuit, so lets close out the show with Phonetographer of the Day. I love this picture. This is from Ron. He took this on his iPhone 6S plus. Yeah. He writes, "Hey there. love the show!" Here's a pic of our newest rescue Gus, he was about two when we rescued him from a local shelter. I snapped this on my iPhone 6S Plus and edited it on Photor, he's made a complete 180 from the day we got him and is just a complete goofball. Rescue dogs are the best. Sincerely, Ron. I love that he blends with his blanket I don't know where [CROSSTALK] Ends and the Couch begins. That couch has eyes is what that is. <<that couch="" has="" eyes,="" yeah.="" it's="" sort="" of="" like="" an="" optical="" illusion.="" if="" you="" lean="" a="" little="" bit="" it="" looks="" giant="" chair="" with="" eyes.="" <<do="" think="" gus="" is="" disturbed="" that,="" <<he="" rescued="" from="" old="" furniture="" store.="" <<laughter="" <<it="" wasn't="" even="" actually="" dog="" shelter,<="" div=""></that> This is a pet chair. [LAUGH] He's like, thank you for not letting me become a chair. Yeah, thank you for not letting me get reupholstered. That would have been terrible. Man. We are loving your pets. Amazing, and congrats on your new rescue. Yeah, and- Dogs are awesome. If you wanna Have your pet part of our July theme. Pet photography. You can always send your phone-tography to tommorow@cnet.com.>> Yes. And there are four things you must do when you do thet.>> What are those four things, Ashley?>> You must tell us how to pronounce your name if you think there is even slight possibility we might mispronounce it. You should definitely give us your permission to use your picture on the show cuz legal will get very mad if you don't do that. Tell us a story about your delightful pet, and the more interesting, the better. I love this rescue story. It's great. And also make sure which device you took it on cuz I love to know what device you took your pictures Track yeah it has not to be a conventional pet it could be any kind of pet and we're loving those pictures. Pet robot. Yeah. [INAUDIBLE] That is it for the show this week. Yeah. We'll be back next week same bad time same bad channel with all of the best future tech views, sci fi, sci facts Like the most delicious peanut butter and jelly sandwich you've ever had. But until then. Be good humans. See you guys, bye. [MUSIC]

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