The 404 Show 1,594: You're getting a selfie stick this holiday, VR's future in exercising (podcast)
The 404 Show 1,594: You're getting a selfie stick this holiday, VR's future in exercising (podcast)
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The 404 Show 1,594: You're getting a selfie stick this holiday, VR's future in exercising (podcast)

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[MUSIC] What's going on, everyone? Welcome to another episode of The 404 Show on this Monday, December 15th, 2014. I'm Jeff Bakalar. To my left, Iyaz Akhtar. Over in the, in the control room is Ariel Nunez. Howdy. How are you? I'm good. That's great. Yeah. Are you looking forward to going out to Vegas? No. Good. [LAUGH] But I'm looking forward to taking this little break and going back to the Bay Area for a little bit. At least your, your time in the Bay Area will make the CES traveling that much less painful. Well, I'm coming back here. Wait, you're coming back here before CES? Yeah. Cuz last time I did that I stayed in the bay area until I went to CES, and it, it just drove me crazy. I, I, like, being away, and like New York is home to me, so like being away from my home for that amount of time just, it's, it's. It gets to me. That's a lot. Yeah. I understand that, I can, I can relate. So, I gotta come back. What about you, man? I'm not excited this year. Why is that? Last year was, like, your first CNET CD, so why, why aren't you looking forward to it this year? Yeah, well, well I was living in California this past couple years, so the flight was, like, nothing, so I was like oh, this is so great. Right. This is a **** flight Yeah, six hour freaking flight, like, I think I have to wake up around ,. Three in the morning or something to get to my plane, so that's gonna be fun. Really? So I might just stay up. Why'd you do that. It was like, it was a price thing. Like, I had to find a. You're not paying for it. Well there was, there was stuff, mention about. There was stuff. There was stuff. I won't mention it here. Major stuff went down. Yeah, so I got this flight like, 6:30 in the morning, so. That's brutal. So it's gonna. At least you're not gonna have to wait on any security lines. Cuz at that time they just don't do security. Yeah, you're here, you obviously have something to do. It's like, they don't even touch you. They're just like walk through sir, you're devoted. Freaking JFK though, I'm flying out of JFK which is like so **** No it's not. The airport? Yeah it is. No, no. I mean, like, when that line, it takes forever. And there's, like, it's one gigantic line to get in. It's, it's just terrible compared to San Francisco. Terrible. All right. I know we're the first people to complain about air travel. [LAUGH] In the world. And the food! No. I like the food. I don't care. So yeah. This is a, we're kinda winding things down here on 404 in terms of video. today, tomorrow, and Wednesday, those are your last three shows, video shows for 404. Mm-hm and then we move to a staggering, I think it's one frame per hour. [CROSSTALK] That'll be, that's our video, we'll set up promo shot. So then starting in 2015 we're gonna go to the adjacent room where there's a new podcast studio that's been built. And we're going to start doing the show once a week. I, last week I shot, last Friday I recorded with the GiantBomb guys, and we went two hours and fifteen minutes. That's freaking crazy. Yeah, I can't tell if that's too, that's probably too long. Be like, like, like separated out into like different pieces. No, I mean, I didn't upload it yet. It'll go up up next week sometime, but. That's a lot, right. Two hours. Two hours and 15, and they were great. Like, I told them when we got there, I'm like and if, if you're a Giant Bomb fan, it's Alex Navarro and Vincent Caravella. And I said. Vincent, Vinny. And I said I'm like guys, I only wanna go 60 minutes and they're like, okay. And then maybe like, we're in it, we just got in there, we got into it and [INAUDIBLE] two and wound up going over two hours So maybe you should have gone six hours, so I have something to listen to on the trip. Are you really going to listen to it? Why not? Really? Two hours of it? I dunno Of video games? It's pretty hardcore. Maybe I'll have to go in double speed. Cuz I don't have an attention span. It's okay, because we, that actually might be normal speed because. Let's just say we were having a lot of soda. Mm-hm. Hearing the whole thing. Good. [LAUGH] And we [LAUGH] kinda splurge a few things. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Six packs a bit soda. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Okay. Nice. That's great. So that was a lot of fun. We're done with contests, the Omaha stakes thing ended Friday, that winner will be notified sometime this week, so that's pretty excellent I just sent out the Call of Duty, or I will send out the Call of Duty bundle today. You mean the box that's sitting over there? Shut up! It's sitting right over there [LAUGH] Next to the Playstation four that's behind, man. So yeah, that's like kinda it, huh? [CROSSTALK] Yup. That's kinda sad, I guess. Tomorrow Shanna Cook joins us. That's exciting. Because I wasn't about to have, like, you know, the la, [COUGH] the last big time she'd be on video be somewhere deep in the summer, come on, you know? Let's have her back on. Let's have her back on. Let's have Steve Guttenberg back on. I think you'll depress everybody by saying this. I'm just gonna have to guess. Something like, this is the last video. [CROSSTALK] We got, I got a lot of emails. People being like, oh, this is stupid. You shouldn't do it, and. Isn't that how the show started, though? Same thing. Pretty much. This is stupid. You shouldn't do it. You shouldn't do it. There you go. And look where we're not, and you know, I don't know. It's just like, I guess, it's tough to not be emotional in some capacity. Yeah. Why, why would you wanna get emotional. Because it's the end of an era! I mean, you just got here. I know. So you can't, you can't relate. No, I can't relate at all, whatsoever. To my sadness. Nope. Well, how do you feel Ariel? I'm a little sad. You know? It's all I know since I've been in New York That's true I jumped into the 404 as soon as I got here. So it's gonna be a change, for sure. Emotions are for the weak. You shouldn't have emotions, Jeff. Oh, stop it. Ariel- You gotta, you gotta toughen up, buddy. I know, I gotta work on it. I mean, you been in New York long enough, and now you got emotions? What- Yeah. You keeping that stuff from California? What, what is this? Still a softy. On Wednesday Iyaz and I are going to fist fight. Yeah. Nice. Too bad we're not doing video anymore. I know. [LAUGH] All right. I, let's, let's, let's look at CES for a little bit. Clearly, the three of us are over the moon about heading out to Vegas. Yay. We can't wait. And that's another, another thing. No 404 at CES. That kinda sucks. Which, which even if we were still a video show by the time we got out there, I would have kicked and screamed to not do that. Not because I don't enjoy doing it, but because the crowd there is just so, it's like pulling teeth. Yeah People just sit there with their eyes glazed over, I mean, 95% of the time they're only sitting in front of our stage because they just wanna. Break. Cuz we got nice, cushy seats. You know, we got nice cushy, cushy seats and maybe a place to plug in for a second. Yeah, there's a lot of people that just sit in the back by the wall [UNKNOWN]. With their backs to the stage, these hooligans. [LAUGH] So it's, right, Ariel? Yeah. It's, it's brutal. Yeah, it's painful. It's like, man, painful's an understatement. It's like- [LAUGH] It's like goin' to one of those, like, self help conferences. We're like, I, not that I've ever been, but just like, and no one giving a **** what the guy on stage is saying. That sounds like fun, though. Yeah. Just play to nobody. Have, have you ever seen us do it? The 404? No. Did you see it last year? Nope. Even you didn't see it last year. I was stuck in a trailer all last year. And you love us. [LAUGH] I was sitting in a trailer doing, like, just getting my on the job training cuz I just started, and they were like, oh, you're coming out to Vegas. And I was like, what? Okay. Just, way, way to start putting me in a trailer, and that's how I learned everything. Well, maybe not doing The 404 this year, I will be doing a lot of. Stage stuff, but obviously for a forward. Stage dive. Maybe stage diving if I'm lucky, but maybe there's gonna be an opportunity to, to like, see stuff. I usually never get to see stuff. Probably wont this year either. Every year, there's like the year of X, right. Like last year I feel like was the year of 4K. Oh yeah, that was everywhere. The year before that was like, I don't know, one year was 3D for sure, one year was drones All tablets one year. Everybody's got a new eReader Right This is a big deal, and everybody had one. So I guess the thing I'm mildly interested in is what is this CES gonna be? What it is this the year of? I have no freaking idea. I'm gonna expect like smart watches, smart home stuff. [CROSSTALK] That's funny because there's like a, there's like a, there's like a branch of CES like CES West. Right? Um-hm. Did you hear about that? No. So, th, at the, I think it's at the Sands and they're just gonna have like weird gadgets. You know stuff that maybe wouldn't normally fit in to the major CES sort of main stream stuff. There's like a million square feet, what do you mean are they going to fit into there? I know. Not physically, thematically. There's some, a lot of like stuff in the [UNKNOWN] hall that's basically cars and. Cases. There's also one hall that's just like crap you find in a Cracker Jack box. Yeah. It's just like tchothckes. They should call it like, The Tchotchkes. That's, that should be like, the official name of the hall, Tchotchke Hall. Right. It's weird. So I don't know. I have no idea what this year is gonna be. I feel like a lot of it, I fell like the drone thing is gonna be huge again. Drones. The, when the drones were, were really big at CES. People's. Sort of looked at them, at these, with these, like they were they were these luxury products, but now any schmuck can buy one. Now they're way cheaper. They're super cheap. So maybe that stuff too You're think drones, I'm thinking Drones and home automation More smart stuff What about virtual technology? Think that'll be big? Like Oculus and stuff? Yeah like, they're always, always there with this one preview thing Yeah. But no updates probably or anything. The gear thing is real, the Gear VR. Like, this week. That's not real, that's, that's, that's real, that's not real. You can order the damn thing versus Oculus. I know, but it's just like, but it's just a freaking holder for your phone. Yeah. Which is so stupid. But they were, it's, it's weird cuz everyone who's been trying it on, cuz we have it in the office and like, they were just like, goofing around with it and people seem to really enjoy it once they put it on. The first thing it's, it's like, that's really dumb looking and then you see basically. It was, it was Catz. He's like sitting there with this thing on his face and his headphones on. Oh, we saw him this morning wearing that. Yeah, we saw him. We were like, what the hell is Catz wearing? It was pretty freaking hilarious. And Scott told me he was wearing it like, on the like on a train. Oh my God. Why, why? But dig this, he put the pass-through on to see if anybody was like, paying attention. He put the what? Cuz you, you can do a pass-through so you can see. Through the camera, so you can still see what's going on around you. And he was saying like nobody seemed to care. Not in 2015. Nobody cares that he's wearing this big gear VR. It's this white massive thing on his head. There seems to be like unnecessary things protruding out of it. What cause it looks like a giant looks like Cerebro. Yeah it does. There just seems like there's unnecessary stuff sort of coming out of the top of it [CROSSTALK] It's, it's weird. You don't like the helmets? I dunno, I just don't want it to be a thing. It, it sort of looks like Can we see what it looks like? Aw, dude I thought it couldn't get worse than Glass. Right? But somehow it got so many magnitudes worse. I mean the technology's cooler, I guess, than glass, but it's just. I dunno. Okay, we gotta try this on. So many levels, so many orders, terr, more terrible. What's that? We gotta try this on to get a real opinion of this. Cuz I, I think it looks great. [UNKNOWN] right? Yeah. I got to try it on. Oh, really? [UNKNOWN] I got to try the Oculus. It, it was really cool, but it looks like. A bunch of TVs all around you basically, you know what I mean like? Like is it like a screen door sort of? Yeah the resolution really isn't there yet. Yeah. You know? So it just looks like I'm looking, I'm really close to a TV. [LAUGH] But all around me like everywhere I look. You know? Right, you're sort of like, stuck in, like, the Best Buy tv show room. [LAUGH] Exactly. And you're like, this is so stupid. I mean it must be great to have like, just these glowing lights at you and constantly right in your eye. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure that's really fun. Well, last week when Scott was here he's like, it needs to be 8K for you to not be able to tell- Right. You're being played. Right. So. I mean, I guess that's CES 2016. That'll be it. It's like the, the 8K. Oh, that's why you, what you could use your phone for finally. You got that super crazy high res. It's just- Now you got something, although this only works with, I think, the Note 4 so. Okay, so once you put the Note 4 in your head, like on your fa, on your face, then what? Then you like- You like, you go on with your day as, as, as normal? I guess you could- I would imagine you go, like you could do the pass through, and then just like, type like normal. And then- Oh my God. Not? I'm just- I have no freaking idea. I have to try this on. All right. We'll see. I'll try some VR stuff at CS and see how it goes. Speaking of VR, there's a company that thinks the key to everyone's heart in the VR world is through. The through the lens of an exercise routine. Yeah, Runtastic. They had, did this proof of concept app, and it's for Oculus Rift. And the idea is that you could have like a personal trainer and the, it can, it can actually track what you're doing. So when you're doing a leg workout, they have a seven minute workout. And this is what the images would look like. Where you've got this trainer and this like, I guess, what is this, like a lodge? Yeah, it's like a virtual lodge. Which is, you know, really. Very indicative of a gym, I guess. Quaint. Yes, that's the way you wanna work out. No bear skin rug though for some reason. But I just can't get, I don't understand this idea. Like, why would you ever want to exercise with this like, this football on your head? Well. I would rather be doing, I, I will give VR the benefit of the doubt. I would rather do this than to go to a public gym. When I used to go to a public gym, I really did not enjoy it. It was among the worst things I ever did with my life. What if you had this on at the gym? Like in a class. yeah, maybe. I guess, like, it's not gonna work unless you have your own personal gym, you know, wearin' this at home. And then it's like, well why do I need the helmet? [LAUGH] We're back at square one. Well, what if you wanna, like, run through the fields of Ireland or something? You could like, we can do that. Yeah, and that's kinda cool. That's what I'm saying, like. And u, we, we know the the writer of this, John Fingaz. Is that how he says his name? I don't know. Do you know him? I don't know him. I know he listens to 404, this and and Gadget Editor. Anyway. How do you pronounce your name? Let us know. Is it Fingaz? It looks like it's Fingaz. [LAUGH] It's gotta be. Like Tony Fingaz, I know that guy. Johnny Fingaz. Yeah, Johnny Fingaz, I love that DJ. Right. But that's, but he's right, he starts off, he's like, let's be frank, indoor exercise sucks, and he's totally correct. Because you're surrounded by like, you know, intimidating sort of meatheads and jocks and just people that are just like maybe sexier than you, you smell bad So this is maybe why you should have the, well, you can't undo the smell Right, but you can, you know, take over your other senses and dull the ones that. Are interrupting you. So you exercise with this thing on your face? Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm actually giving it a, a go. Like unless as long as like the sweat doesn't short it out. Yeah, maybe I'd try it out. That'd be a great little rash you'll have built right around your face. Fine. I got cream for that. Don't worry. That, that, there's the market right there. It's like the, the anti VR rash cream. [CROSSTALK] It's fine. You get like a disposable little like. Headband thing that goes in the front. A face shield? Look, I don't need to come up with all the answers. No this needs to be done. The economy, this is what, you're right. This is CS 2017 will have all the accessories for your face. Sure, whatever it is. Cuz you got sweat in there and it's gross. But my point is that real. Life indoor exercise, unless you're playing ice hockey, or a sport or anything like that, where it's fun. Cuz, I, people who enjoy lifting. Mm-hm. I, you know, I don't get it. It's like people who enjoy Tosh.0, you know, I just don't get it. [LAUGH] I. [LAUGH]. So That's what you're equating? Yeah! Okay. I just don't get it. Like, I understand that you're getting stronger, like even Marco Say, he finds amazing joy in working out, and I enjoy working out, but in the form of a sport, and even, well, I guess running isn't the worst thing you can do in the world. But everything else is pretty trite and redundant and boring as hell. So if you could like. Put me in a place where I'm not completely, you know, realizing that I'm participating in something super mundane. Yeah, I'd get on board with that. It's like, it's like why I think VR should be in air travel. Flying sucks. It's so boring. Oh my God is it boring. That would be pretty good. And that, that's what I'm saying. I wanted those video glasses things to work for awhile. Like, we need to erase the boring, tedious moments of life. And that's what technology like, sorta did with phones just being everywhere. Now it's time to actually, you know, place ourselves in another reality. To hell with this reality. Just during these really boring moments. Go get. Not like right now like you and me having conversation, but I mean like, on the train, on a bus and obviously working out. I don't think that this is gonna work. All right. This makes no sense to me. It's fine. It's fine. I mean, you don't swear- You'll learn one day that I'm always right. Yeah, and one, one day I'll, I'll learn that. This will be a very, very dark day. [LAUGH] When I'm like, man, the world does suck. It does. Everybody's a disappointment. No, it's not that. It's horrible. I have a new thing. It's not a new mantra, but I've been, I've been. Preaching this mantra for a while is that the future does in fact suck Mm-hm. So you're basically ripping off Spaceballs Grew up, grew up, no, not, just, that, that just means, well yeah, yeah exactly. Like everything is broken and nothing really work the way you want it to. So that's something I've been kinda preaching for a few years. So this is what you're gonna instill in your, your child That's the theme of CS 2015, the future sucks Right? So you gotta enjoy the now. There you go. We're promised these amazing advancements. We're promised that like, we see too many si-fi movies, and we're learning that it's really not all it's cracked up to be. That is really depressing. It's actually medicine. Medicine seems to be doing well. This is, this should be, this should be the pep talk that is given when we're all at together at the team meetings. Right. CES at dinner. Just make sure you tell everybody, that everything sucks. Everything will continue to suck and then if you think. Funny. [INAUDIBLE] And if you think things will suck now, it's actually gonna get worse. Well here's my point exactly, selfie sticks, okay. Okay. You look at selfie sticks, okay, and you tell me with a straight face that the future does not indeed. In fact, suck. It's pretty freaking stupid. Tell me about it. All right, so. I've seen these people, but tell us for, tell us for those who might not know. There is this story on CNN that's actually citing The Daily Mail and it's about the hottest gift that you aren't getting is selfie sticks cuz apparently in the U.K.. This is the hottest item right now because people really love them. CNN is like the US hasn't really caught onto it, which I don't believe cuz I've seen enough of this stuff. No, they have, I see these people all the time. But like, it's It looks like they're carrying a nine iron. It's this constant thing, you know, the one I've seen that drives me nuts is when people are like, being nonchalant. And they're like, oh, like I'm doing something interesting here. But they're holding a selfie stick out this way, so it looks like somebody else is taking the photo. That, what the hell is the point of that? Well, no, there is a point. Like, the, a photo taken with the selfie stick doesn't always look bad. Mm-hm. It looks okay. How do you press the button, though? How does that work? Oh, some of them use Bluetooth. And, so they actually, you have a button that you push down there that'll actually send a signal to your phone. That actually Admit that, admit that that is not that bad. That's not bad, but what's crazy is that South Korea actually outlawed these unsanctioned ones Oh, because of Because the frequencies, they're like oh well these weren't licensed so they can have interference. That was not what I was gonna say. [LAUGH] What were you gonna do? I was gonna say that sort of gives you an instrument for nefarious phototaking. You can just a stick For butts. So that's your theory? It's just a **** photo stick. That's what it's for. I mean I've seen it at like, at the museum, and it's just, I just don't It's like one of those big dentist mirrors. But so you got these people walking with them, right? So they're out this way, so they really have their arm out, and they have like another three feet of this stick that they're pointing at you, and they're not paying attention to what's going on in front of them, which I find maddening. Like I just want these people, like, I want to hit them, that's the first thing I wanna do but they So do it! Stop talking and do it! Well, here's the problem, they have a stick! {CROSSTALK] They have, at the ready. Hyped, it's nothing, it's aluminum, it's not gonna hurt. That is something And it would never break their selfie stick Interesting, they would not use that in defence, it'd push them over I mean, I wonder how easy it would be to take a phone off of them actually, just swipe them. They also reminds of those old school. They were like those toy grabbers. You know? With the claw. Oh the robot arm things? The robot arm. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's what this one in this photo reminds me of. This is just. I, I. I don't. Are you getting anybody, yourself, this stick for Christmas? No, I'm not doing that because, I'm just not doing that. I don't know where [LAUGH] to buy a selfie stick. I saw them at frigging Duane Reade, man. They have them, like. They're everywhere at this point. They're like eight bucks, buy a cell stick. That's where me and Ariel go downtown. Mm-hm. Thank you. [LAUGH] I you know what? I see people, it's funny. I see people when I go skiing, people mount their GoPro's to their ski pole. Mm-hm. You know, and they like put it out, like, are you mad at those guys too? Nah, that makes sense though. Yeah? I'm not mad at anybody, I just think it's dumb when I see it like, it's the nonchalant ones that make wonder why don't you just give the phone to somebody else to take the photo? In this particular case it was a girl with her family visiting a museum, and she was the one with the selfie, the selfie stick. I'm like why. Why not just say, hey Dad, take the photo? Right. [CROSSTALK] I understand. I, it's, I guess it's not the worst thing. It's funny, like I went into this all negative. And I'm like, you know, what the ay, it could be worse. That is the weirdest, I, so, so this is the fea, this is the present. Don't you think it's funny that we're all like carrying golf clubs around? And like, putting phones into. I- It's normal to have a telescoping pole. Yeah. That you're supposed to be like, taking photos? Like, what's? Why? I don't know. And it's not like it's, like, how is that gonna get better? Wow, I'm just thinking, man. Like I went to the, I saw the- Like's, what the evolution of a selfie stick? Like, where, floating phone. The drone. A drone phone. Drone phones. No, like a personal drone phone? That seems like it might get in the way of, I don't know, everything. It might be better if it was actually, I was thinking about this, I went to see the big Christmas tree at 30 Rock, Yeah? Right? And everybody had their phones and everything. So I'm just thinking it could be worse if they had the sticks out, which they didn't. A lot of people didn't have selfie sticks, you know, just Yeah Yeah. That's gonna get way worse. I remember saying, like, five or six years ago when I did this last time. Because phones weren't so freaking popular. It was like, it was so easy to walk, but everyone stops and they're like, okay, this is me in front of the tree, this is me in front of the tree. It's like get out of the way. Yeah, so, I think what's gonna change is that things will be way more automated than they are now. Because at the end of it, you still have to like, everyone's desire to take these photos of themselves. It's all it's all, you know because the wanna share stuff. Right? They just wanna like, prove to everyone that their life isn't terrible, and continue to be like, I was at 30 Rock, I saw the tree. Mm-hm. Here's this, here's that, and this is what I do. I can just believe you. You don't have to photo. And I guess that's all social media really is, is just trying to continually prove to everyone that you haven't. Completely bottomed out Like I'm not dead yet, so here I did something. Right, it's a series of I'm not dead yets. But when that becomes automated, maybe it'll be more painless. I'm thinking maybe a personal flying drone that follows you around, that's your cameraman. I don't know. That's a thing. That's a real thing. Well, [CROSSTALK] you can't bring that thing in the streets of Manhattan, it seems like, it seems like it would cut people. And, it wouldn't work. Yeah, the flying one with the mistletoe didn't work, you know? Chopped off that lady's nose. So, so what was this list of gifts? Weren't you gonna like, give me a list of something? Nah, no, oh list of sports to try this winter. Oh, right, okay, let's do that and then let's get the hell out of here. You know what's up with that crazy couple that got stuck in the, got stuck in the car? Oh my god, right, okay. Let's talk about that Okay, let's do that Alright, so I found this story today. Yeah let's, we're gonna try, we're gonna try collectively to figure out whether or not this story is true. All right. So there's this couple in New Zealand. And the headline reads: Couple locked inside a keyless car nearly wins Darwin award. So I had to check this out. All right. So it turns out these two people- Mm hm Were stuck in their car for 13 hours. Which is a while. It's a keyless car. Okay. And the key fob was locked outside of the car. So they were in the car. The doors were locked, and Nick couldn't get out of the car. Now, they were told, apparently when they were buying a car, the car won't work without the fob. So they freaked out, they tried to break the glass to get out, they were in a weakened state, they were 65 and 68 years old. So they saw that it was possible for someone to be locked inside a car. That's, that's what the story is saying. And I've seen it in two different sources, so I haven't found like, you know, super reputable thing yet, I can't tell if it's real, because it sounds like **** Alright, help us out here everybody. [NOISE] How would you, how could that happen? How could this have happened? How could it be that for 13 hours 13 hours, yeah You don't realize well maybe there's like a manual thing. Cuz that's what happened. Yeah, cuz this is a Mazda They just didn't think to look at it. Like view the handle, so the thing of it is they tried honking. [LAUGH] I kid you not. They tried honking, but apparently it was, it was Guy Fawkes Day. So there was lots of fireworks at the same time. So you could, nobody could hear the honking. For 13 hours? I don't think they were honking consistently for 13 hours. But they freaked out. So it says they were discovered by the neighbors the next day. I mean, they were in a Mazda 3 hatchback. They weren't in some sort of like concept car. And they're in their garage. Like it's their own house. So like, they were found by their neighbors. They were unconscious. They were unconscious. Yeah. They were struggling to breathe. Or it says in this thing. According to emergency services they were potentially left an hour away from death. So they survived by the way so we can make fun of them a little bit cuz that is really really dumb. How could two people. Its almost. I don't buy it. Its the fact that there's two of them. I could see one person being. You could? One person. You could? Yeah. You could, whoop, it just blows my mind that they were never like. They didn't like, they just didn't like go through every possible thing they could think of. Like every lever on the car. Try every freaking thing. But I could see one person being that stupid. And it's kinda like, okay, you know, what. Like when a, when a kid doesn't know what a what a manual window controller is Sure Okay, you gotta pull the window down. People look and they're like, what is that? Well that's why when I first heard the story, I figured these people were like 18 or 19 and had never seen a, an actual door handle be used before. But these handles were facing these people right, right there! I don't know what the inside They were sitting there facing it. Aria what do you think, dude? It's sounding fake. It sounds fake, man. I just can't believe that these two people lived to 65 and 68 respectively all these years. And we're never miffed by anything else ultra complicated like a door handle. Like, oh my god, you know? Maybe I'm supposed to walk on this train track, or maybe, you know, maybe I'm supposed to jump into this pit. [LAUGH] This is- Something like that. So it's, let's see, there's a quote. Once I found out how simple it was to unlock, I kicked myself. Wait. Yeah, I kicked myself, but I did not find the way out. So, yeah. I had this mind set that I didn't have the transponder, so he could not get out. Do you, how? There's no way. I get that you have the mindset for about 10 minutes before you say, but wait a minute. There's no way all these cars could be out here, that are. Potentially locking people within them. There's just no way. She thought because she didn't have the key fob that was it, game over, you lose. [LAUGH] That was the big mistake. That's your life. It's over. That was a big mistake that you'll regret after you die. Come on. Okay, so this, this claim is that this happened on the 5th of November and they Come on! Went public now as people need to be aware of the risks of keyless cars Yes [CROSSTALK] Particularly older people inexperienced in new technology. New technology? Keyless cars The technology that would have saved their lives, although it wouldn't have been saving their lives cuz they just would have gotten out of the car four seconds later. Has been around for decades! They must've owned a car before, right? Or been in one. In the 65 or 68 years, right? Exactly. Another great point. Another great point. Like it's not like that it's such a brand new car. It's like well how did people get out before I got this car? [LAUGH] You think she looked at her, her husband and was like, oh my god, Bryan. How did we get out of the other eight cars we used to have? This conversation apparently never happened. How did we do that? Like, why not pop, it's a hatchback so why not pop the back? And Brian's like I don't, I don't look, forget about the other car's we had. This is totally different it's a new world. It's a Mazda 3. This is a Mazda 3 hatchback with keyless entry. Okay. Forget, forget everything you used to know about cars. Cuz you could die in these things. Mr. Smith who says he considers himself very methodical said he could not find the unlocking mechanism. How could you Mr. Smith, who [LAUGH] who is the self-declared not a moron [LAUGH]. [LAUGH] That, this, I can't tell if this is a pretty good gag that someone would say 13 hours, or like maybe Or maybe the Onion has trained us to cry cry foul here. Like one hour is fine, right? You could say okay, you're dumb for an hour. No, an hour, do you know how long an hour is when you're by yourself with someone in a closed room? It's an eternity. [LAUGH] And they did that 13 times? Get outta here. Just get outta here. 13 freaking times. This probably is just like a, this is a smear job against Mazda. Who found them? Their neighbors. Shoulda just put the pillow over their head. [LAUGH] Get rid of it. Just get rid of this before it. Well they probably already had children. Damn it. Find their children. [LAUGH] And, and sterilize them right away. How, okay, they, they tried to smash the window with a car jack and they couldn't. How can't you do that? That's okay. You, that, that's fine. Dude, that is the least of this story's problems. Are you kidding me? [LAUGH] Let's, let's start to make fun of them now cuz they couldn't break a window with a carjack, please. I don't know how you can't find the handle, but this... [LAUGH] It's, what, it, is this the dumbest thing you've ever heard? I'm trying to think of what's stupider. That we've covered recently. Well, I mean, the guy with the snake. It's [CROSSTALK] That's pretty dumb. But that was- The snake thing. But that was- That's a guy that's trying to do something. This is an accidental, locking in yourself in- So what would happen if the snake guy's in the car? What do you think happens? Nothing, actually, cuz nothing happened with the snake guy. I'm gonna let the car consume me. [LAUGH]. That'd be a much better special. I hope you enjoyed this story as much as we did talking about it. And if you find out it's true or not, or you happen to be Mr. And Mrs. Smith, if that is their real name I don't want anyone to really be subjected to the Darwin Awards, of course when people die by stupid mistakes it's upsetting. But this is just beyond all comprehension. This can't be. This just can't be. How do you leave this to fob out anyway? If you're really that freaked out, how? Oh I don't think they were anticipating this could ever happen. [LAUGH] How, I can't, I can't even imagine what the sales pitch is for this car. Like its cute, its from the future. Like what does the guy sell? It's what the salesman said, if we leave the fob out we die. [LAUGH]. [CROSSTALK] [LAUGH] He's like, remember what you, remember what he said? He said we will die if we lose this fob I guess we're gonna die. I guess we're just gonna die. That's it for us, guys. 866-404-CNET. Don't worry, the voicemails aren't going anywhere. You'll always be able to call us up. So please do that. 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