Ep. 134: Streaming video services snub NYC; doing the new Netflix math; plus, win some Spotify invite codes
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We had a last minute -- we hear our -- just have been called off an urgent measure and therefore Scott ran down the -- screaming and waving his arms like that scream painting.
And that and an entrepreneur but Janice and came -- with everybody the gold man.
Two Tuesday and today welcomed Josh yeah thank you you picked a good week let me tell you a lot going well.
On -- right all -- all excited yes I saw some breaking an area.
I -- I'm -- news just as we were getting ready to go on and by news I mean in unsubstantiated rumor from them.
That you know that their web site the boy genius report also known as BG aren't come around and --
They are now reporting that a Wall Street analyst. Who I don't named -- who is.
-- in a note to investors this afternoon that Research in Motion at the company rim that -- little Blackberry stuff.
It's considering pulling the plug on the Blackberry Playbook tablet already.
Lose. That was fast -- see if that it had indeed happen.
A while I don't know I don't know that we need the playbook the first is that -- the right thing -- -- and many plays and now.
-- -- -- but I cannot lead isn't done of those post that today I Patton.
During any thoughts on it and -- has had I did as reading through the comments -- -- but he was in there.
Defending. Him and say yes thing agreed it's there in my -- -- doesn't matter if the hardware is -- and the operating system could give them the data -- is everybody became behind him.
Exactly it's enough it's it's a nice feeling piece of hardware by.
All the -- -- I can build the world's fastest car but if the rear tires available for it.
Not gonna do me much -- that would be poor construction and your.
It in my analogy tires on the apps and electricity to -- has there been critical of the car itself with them -- -- lax via software attack.
Canada because rating system explanation -- against it and --
So what other -- or haven't been other products that have been killed really quickly like that if this indeed turns out to be the case.
I feel like this seems he has story become -- everyone's so obvious that they're trying to think that I can't think of the name anybody in communicating ASEAN has -- -- can one -- -- here practically.
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Did somebody every. Revitalize the software something for a Palm Pre additionally how quickly to the Palm -- really like oh yeah. And of a lot of the line. How long delay product life cycle and if they.
Yes he is -- PSP go. Is there -- killed but don't usually die young life is a new and exciting product yes and was quickly backed Bernard that is true scenario I guess we'll see.
What happens with the playbook.
And with all these other tablets like the HP -- -- that -- floating around rules leave many of them actually managed to make games and -- and which ones are quickly withdrawn from the market.
I have a very quick got programming note to mention as usual we will be.
Goofy stuff we -- -- I've got a bunch. It's modify invite codes for US users because in the US.
You need a -- invitation code to get the cool free version -- modify right now.
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I was gonna sign up -- numbers when it really didn't.
I understand why there's too many music happy services streaming things at once -- -- are Leo and it's too many things what's that anything is the other one.
Everett and -- party now. Is that its its radio without me --
Why don't yes I guess I can do is they'd be an apron area yet and art media and Vietnam. What's the other right and I know -- identity and -- time. Napster's is rather than as a music or think that an.
I mean this is one -- subscription to try different things it just sounds. Okay so what about -- -- rhapsody -- England -- -- a copy music and limited. -- and enhance its air that's why don't understand people who sizeable Muslim and I -- also one thing about modify that been able to figure out that's different is that they do have a free level of service much like pandora.
We can use pandora for twenty hours a month before you have to actually pay for it.
They have their own free level which in the US they don't actually say what these yet different it was like pandora -- -- its maximum -- a month and always has been known online.
I'm not only are expanding Rhode Island along a longtime analyst -- -- and -- ever read that cap.
Now and is no further really restrictions -- But it's only like twenty bucks like the whole year.
If you wanna get like full time stream 24/7. And -- -- English audio.
Chalk river various music services -- -- like I'm looking for tax software.
-- exciting part of your only alternative is only serves -- -- say -- her answers like you find like music.
And makes it -- a horrible bunch of little services and and codes in and out payment plans and like.
Where where's the fun but -- got would you consider yourself a music fan you yet.
Susie. I mean -- sixty gigs of music I have lots lots of music I enthusiastic about my music.
-- enthusiastic about the whole music industry.
And I don't really need to keep exploring new ways of slicing music. Com and serving up.
Is so what is your number one music consumption to right now quickly if you don't even think about it just that a where it. The iPod feature on my iPhone the consumption -- -- -- -- mine so music you've got from iTunes.
Okay that's my music consumption deal as well as a playlist and that's and more like it up a pandora pandora would be the one -- -- over -- NIC us.
Okay got Josh. Are -- -- the guys that idea and I'm actually you have to so I mean and I can rhapsody is what I -- -- generally use that -- so RD party paying ten dollars I get that on my phone so inspired that.
Also use Amazon.
-- yet Amazon cloud intelligent and up -- -- to the Amazon class Aaron I can upload anything it is.
-- them. And keep and then back again now I have as we -- Thursday in a previous show.
And using Google's music service okay that's what. It's.
Nothing I couldn't already do with some audio galaxy. -- I mean it's not that big deal and now I hit the cap.
So if the -- -- --
On my -- loads onto it to my account to Google yet and it.
So now vote so that the cab -- -- is the evidence that diet -- as the number of songs -- out there was -- or -- I don't uploading.
I was okay hey did your presumption must. The the Amazon went in and changes from a twenty gigs for most people to a limited space at least for now and again that's why I am I finally finished -- my initial -- -- -- 22 gigs -- the stuff -- and -- which is using that.
Mostly to consolidate my music library from various computers through at least it's all one -- -- -- --
And please modify a little bit now. If it did this kind of hard to find stuff on there but I like turntable FM I think it's a lot of funny is that there India and -- -- room.
The thing is -- I've got squeeze box I'm gonna -- boxes them and they'll work with rhapsody Somalia yet.
Have gotten no incentives -- justice I totally understandable.
I would deter tables it was mobile because I like to -- on June 10 mile if I can walk around and obviously don't always have service.
He dropped out of the some way to serve like pre culinary delight others wanna watch your hand and there is service -- wasn't something casually.
Chime in our at a table I know like in pre Q my song and say like.
When I went across on the -- easier for OS on the minute NASA and easy put it looks like it like MetaFilter elegantly can fantasy draftees putting your queue of things that will pop it when it's your turn up -- -- just out previews of -- -- -- --
Where does that that does take -- out of its thing that's interesting about that -- and the moments unlike Macs.
Yes -- one way of of of putting a bit I think the key to -- difference from other sort of social media sharing.
Is that -- -- is real time rather than a synchronous when you when you share something on FaceBook or whatever percent of -- -- its asynchronous sharing they check it out when it's convenient for them for the fact.
-- -- -- you have to be there real time and that's what creates a kind of vibe.
Reverend in the room together at least that's my initial take on a -- what is -- Music tool of choice.
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I have -- that.
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As far as -- -- stuff.
And I've used. The Zune pass -- you you have margolies Zune -- member not okay and back to the.
In other means. -- -- episode.
And it but I mean -- at and -- -- on and on on them tuning.
Does it say that's I was but embryos are actually the other discover I was literally etc. that I like old fashioned rant yet CN NM integrated it has.
-- a lot of different music on Sony's and mean without sedation and they are real stations earn interest on there real real litigation with every broadcasts. Of Apple over the -- -- that he considered by local GPS and palm dollars in the United States and -- -- international -- -- available as well -- analyst has -- that that.
Old fashioned idea of -- it sure there are some ads and others things but you know illegals and NPR on.
That's not really music might have I don't like.
I take -- over listening to those music services such as me. I.
Instead them that's owning and using on our mobile. And on and Amazon cloud now that its new iPad friendly and I uploaded all my music to it.
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Especially compared to all the crazies have -- yet now -- -- that that's interesting. I can tell it.
Between -- -- in -- -- a lot of crazy stuff is happening in the media world in which we inhabit it begins with following the --
News the world phone hacking scandal that's what Scotland Yard is being the most that is surprising developments in this over the weekend.
Yeah it's an active with -- whole point is a good thing newspaper --
Got caught basically hacking into people's voice mail for years celebrities people just in the news for whatever reason.
You know both both important people in his regular folks and you know we -- the kind of knew this happen often on for long time but the extent of it.
Was not clear and now to huge problem and people resigning after -- people are getting arrested they canceled an end.
One of the oldest still reading newspapers -- the world newspaper that and published since like 1868.
I I think that's -- that we well I mean this is where the media world and that's an end and that's and that's -- and involve hacking.
Now here's a hat they hack into people's -- on the using pre texting -- so we haven't really heard about yet.
What the actual methodology. Of the hacking -- -- -- they hired private investigators to gonna do that off the books.
I think in most cases it's either you don't change the default password on your voicemail -- -- -- before whatever it is for that particular.
Service provider and year end or.
They pretext which is when you call up customer service geo data I'm Bob Smith and I forgot my password is my Social Security number which you got from somewhere else thought that they have.
Social Security numbers in England but you get the idea and and and and any and reset the password -- sent him some sort of login information.
Though so and another another cautionary tale about hacking and making sure your your passwords and other things are secure.
That's not my public service that's okay. But I have another media meltdown story that was actually much more interesting than -- you may remember this.
-- -- a lot of us back in the eighty's and ninety's it was a print magazine.
Called byte BYTE. Classic connecting everybody liked it's got terabyte banking -- -- event I was it was a big reader and I love it and then okay.
So the magic underwear business in the early ninety's that somebody spotted somebody else bonded they shut it down there was a website -- -- -- -- some very recently.
-- the parent company of trade publication called information week.
As apparently owned the the IP rights to the name for -- -- and they just re launched it as.
Basically ninety blonde with a focus on sort of crossover consumer stuff I find -- -- Clancy name.
And and they're using again not really a lot of connection to the original classic.
Byte magazine the one of the first things they ran from some bloggers last contributor was. -- anti Apple story.
The story that was called a sobering look at Apple and you know it was new it was click -- let's be honest here I'll treat you the opening up real fast.
In all honesty.
I don't know why people buy products from Apple Apple assures everyone its products just work that -- -- matter and its products -- finely tuned German roasters.
The reverse is actually true the genius of Apple is at Isis will discuss risen to going along with it and the article then goes on constantly -- the -- -- the iPhone -- -- a -- other problems.
It's not a particularly well written article were well reason this is kind of a --
But that said is not unlike fifty other article nineteen and fifty other web site right does some very legitimate news web sites.
-- that kind of follow the same path the difference here is.
People in the comments form of this new revitalized -- website sliced like freaked out.
And after a couple of days. The editor of this --
Basically ran a giant retraction. And and -- the article sound dampening --
It doesn't articles that within editor's note and the entire article sort of rocket strike through -- -- -- -- -- -- don't -- it -- now.
So further attraction of the editors less data allow the editor says change the opinion -- that follows doesn't live up to be proud tradition and our best intentions for --
We agree with the community that publishing the story was an error in judgment.
So you know.
It didn't seem to -- to figure article but on -- -- people the -- and a comment section.
And on Apple fans sites you should immediately retract your story got to stand behind that things -- publish and is a factual error.
You run a correction on that particular -- air.
Here's my thought about this as an editor looking into the parts I can read through the strike through the I would say looking at this briefly.
The middle points or what we've often heard before and they're not entirely wrong that point at things like antenna gate.
The fact that the cameras on the iPad two are not as impressive as many others the gorilla glass can in fact suffered damage in their sometimes being sold as indestructible.
You know problems at the genius bar like frustrations with -- the problem really is the beginning and ending -- tie this together like.
You know saying I don't know why people buy products from Apple's silly statement and and you know you can have your own opinions but through about tying it together in -- something in May be acknowledging.
It's time to discuss but it's nothing -- -- delicate said a million times before it but at the middle is not.
The middle has elements that we've all brought up bright and it is another frustrating part of Apple's apart these say only they trickle out features and sometimes that happens and like.
But then there's -- the positive parts -- but it's a matter of like we're going with educators say.
You know it's clearly not I have -- -- is that I do not get it you weekend.
Really designed did -- click -- for the launch of this particular blog or website and inflammatory story to gain attention fortunately.
It got too much of the wrong kind of intention -- security panicked.
The -- -- firewall to -- good for them for attracting had done -- it when the other Big Apple sites like oh they did the right thing.
So all the Apple fan boys -- like going over at least the bite.
Blog to the right thing by piper tracking the story but again elicits just so factually incorrect that you can't corrective.
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The strike through though move is also gathering more attention so its attention on it isn't everything put it back up he could see what the whole.
Controversy was about its citizens hiding it so I applaud them for that.
City -- keep an eye on the information week byte BYTE a blog and see what happens next with this.
Venerable. Media. Technology publishing.
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And of course if you'd like to play like chewing on the chat room and T will draw in three people.
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Now are we gonna get to worry about yet is that mention of the CNN iPad a man -- I -- -- my -- up.
All good I am I gonna get the -- that you're doing grants to do well -- MZ grant as well I'd this I just got up I just got pissed and I discovered.
When you exact alerted me is I downloaded the update to what exactly was going on with --
It's it's it's a classic story Sunday get TV networks is so we've got a great new either streaming -- -- for the iPad or streaming app for the iPad.
He can watch our content -- you are except.
It's one of the things it's tied into yes but so funny coming to chat room guys say well that's what -- did and it looks like -- well Julie Spencer and Apple.
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I doubt they would truly with that means you leave okay we -- -- comments.
Three and again I say you'll you only radio these -- CNN that I was president saying Obama have basically with a lot of these streaming media apps.
You have to.
Via subscriber to cable system in order have to think if you're paying for -- channel two cable.
And in most -- case in most cases Time Warner Cable that major cable operator for a lot of the country including New York is not a signatory to these deals.
Therefore HBO to go indicated here and Time Warner Cable the -- CNN -- we just launched today you can do -- watch CNN your iPad except -- Time Warner Cable subscriber.
So once again New Yorkers get screwed they know that might point in Scott you have yeah --
To that point is isn't just New Yorkers against sticker but this new cable which we've been talking I can't stand it I can't stand in your cable.
Because we what we -- -- we're promised her teased.
The whole idea of a device like the iPad as a -- to fork is that you can somehow. You know pick an alternative to cable you can obviously nobody necessarily.
Why a lot of people don't necessarily want that ends -- here as much as you have services like Hulu plus and Netflix.
You're getting increasingly a lot of these apps that are assuming you're on the cable grid.
And that therefore you enter your code what if you're -- Amman on cable don't use cables a lot of people -- -- Skype and on cable yet but you're okay when -- got stuck and that's why they know that -- got but Frontline out that you know you know what front -- that don't say.
Streaming CNN in your iPad say something like serviced for cable subscribers free bonus for cable subscribe not even all of -- it is or -- -- -- exactly not -- -- them.
These things are ancillary there are there additional services refused cable and it doesn't reinvent anything it's it's a chance for cable companies -- up an additional --
To pull me back in and they might succeed because at some point I realize -- the -- not gonna change.
And I get frustrated. But I -- cable plans are so expensive.
But there's no way you can really tailor -- for what you really want to use it's gonna buy into the whole thing -- -- into a significant chunk of so that annoys me.
Along the content is owned by these -- -- now I ask how they make united and I can't pick this or that I can understand -- -- climb a -- of subscription yes and I can understand -- for HBO -- ago it just -- effort CNN.
I would not to --
Now I would but I mean I go to -- I get excited download the update lets you a little -- candy came through my mind.
Update. In a queue the day and nothing nothing for me there's no subscription -- and words you can't know because again it's.
That's how the financial model -- seem right it's not selling -- content -- card.
CNN is selling its content to the cable operator and to a deal with them you -- actually duplicate that content -- on your iPad touch.
There's a whole point dubbed the reason lysine and gets X number dollars from Time Warner Cable or Comcast -- per subscriber.
Is because you've got to go to Comcast or whoever gets the NN that's how the entire house that's for the entire house of cards built up.
We're not gonna changing times that are right well that it's just -- scientist at any time -- you know --
It's coming up against you've got -- other services.
-- totally different but I tell you what didn't realize dedicated menu key here is on display -- can't.
And it's frustrating because which one is going to obviously seems there is heading back to you.
Traditional cable models through we're gonna we're all gonna go back in that direction and -- where they are like that -- really.
Though they. I I have a fast follow up question -- -- does not have -- that this study changing your Hulu account subscription choices with the significantly raise prices if so to what.
Hulu plus to -- I'm not so that I Netflix already have what I mean Netflix.
I am yeah I am actually organizing I was like what what you have now what do you switching to -- two desks around and so he's up to and streaming.
I read -- -- is a bargain a change I mentioned the new price and she says oh yeah I would drop the --
-- -- and listening on my shelf for months there's no point.
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Right now -- -- -- article wrote last week like about things to fix it we don't know that the the the streaming -- -- -- dvds can help patch those holes and now they wanna splitting one or two directions.
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Julie quick and -- analysts had on the streaming only.
So I never had this they -- I I went from three discs the two disc than they -- rice's last time now I'm gonna go from two to one.
I just because -- new releases and and the --
So big a -- overall dropping the part of -- that subscription except for Julie who are to start at plus one yes very quickly to relatively contestants.
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And I won the raffle prizes and --
Even though it was an event about lake who left out the stuff DTV -- the raffle prize was a book by this marathon runner who is there.
Run to overcome by mid calf who is he.
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But this has been a lot of fun if you really good chats today we have two good questions everything everything -- 1 I -- nothing left I'm I'm I'm I'm being empty handed but that's done.
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