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>>Donald Bell: Alright, it's Tuesday, June 22nd and you're watching the Crave podcast. I'm Donald Bell and with me today is Eric Franklin.
>>Eric Franklin: Hey, Donald.
>>Donald Bell: Thank you for coming back. Jasmine is out. She's sick again. She's not on vacation this time. She's taking a Benadryl vacation.
>>Eric Franklin: Right, yeah.
>>Donald Bell: One of those.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah.
>>Donald Bell: Those are fun times.
>>Eric Franklin: She sounds like she's pretty sick.
>>Donald Bell: Yeah, I think she's legitimately, you know...
>>Eric Franklin: Ill.
>>Donald Bell: Come down with something.
>>Eric Franklin: She's not down with this, though.
>>Donald Bell: That is not going to stop the amazing Crave video podcast we have to give you today.
>>Eric Franklin: Right.
>>Donald Bell: And I am going to up front because I keep falling into this chapel, feeling like I need to at the top of the Crave story, the Crave list do like the real obvious topics.
>>Eric Franklin: Right.
>>Donald Bell: The obvious topic would be to talk about iPhone OS4.
>>Eric Franklin: Sure.
>>Donald Bell: I'm not going to do it.
>>Eric Franklin: Don't do it.
>>Donald Bell: No.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, you were framed.
>>Donald Bell: You got every other podcast is going to talk about that.
>>Eric Franklin: It's boring.
>>Donald Bell: It's boring and then...
>>Eric Franklin: It's like a day old.
>>Donald Bell: Yeah.
>>Eric Franklin: Come on.
>>Donald Bell: You know what I was actually playing around with yesterday? It's kind of boring.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, it is. I didn't see much to get excited about anyway.
>>Donald Bell: It's cool, it's free. What are you going to do?
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, exactly.
>>Donald Bell: But that's it. Instead we are going to cut right to the Amazon versus Nook, sad theme, kind of priced for it.
>>Eric Franklin: Second most obvious story.
>>Donald Bell: Yeah, let's go to the second most obvious story. So, Amazon has dropped its price on its Kindle to $189 down from $259 was the original price.
>>Eric Franklin: Yep, yep.
>>Donald Bell: On the Kindle so they did that to compete against the fact that Barnes & Noble has taken their Nook down to $199 with 3G, $149 without 3G and the fact that the matter is I'm still not going to buy either one.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, that was my next question, does any of us care? Like...
>>Donald Bell: No, I mean, in a sense that ultimately what I want this technology to be is like disposably cheap.
>>Eric Franklin: Right.
>>Donald Bell: You know.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, exactly.
>>Donald Bell: Where it's like I've got eReaders at home because they gave me one free for opening up a bank account.
>>Eric Franklin: Right.
>>Donald Bell: You know or like...
>>Eric Franklin: I don't like how Flash drives are now.
>>Donald Bell: On a, you know, a newspaper prescription basically just, you know, like I helped him out and his like his college dreams by signing something and he gave me a Nook book.
>>Eric Franklin: Here's a Kindle for you.
>>Donald Bell: Yeah, that's like at the pint where I would kind of have some interest in getting one but...
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, five ninety nine, the safe way right?
>>Donald Bell: I do think though that the Wi-Fi is the only thing that is fine for me.
>>Eric Franklin: You would need 3G?
>>Donald Bell: No.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, well, I don't know.
>>Donald Bell: Well, if I was really going to be using it as a daily getting my news over the air on my commute kind of thing but.
>>Eric Franklin: I guess I wouldn't use it so much for news. It would be strictly for books for me, I guess.
>>Donald Bell: I don't know but then I'm not downloading books on the go that much anyways.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, exactly. I would probably free download them.
>>Donald Bell: I also am guilty of having the iPad on me all the time so it's like a lot of that taking, reading on the go thing is already...
>>Eric Franklin: Do you carry around a Merce [phonetic], are you trying to?
>>Donald Bell: I've got a big Merce. Yeah.
>>Eric Franklin: So, is it in fact not a Merce and actually a bag but it looks Merce like.
>>Donald Bell: It's a messenger bag.
>>Eric Franklin: Okay.
>>Donald Bell: But, uhm, I'm afraid now that I've widdled things down to kind of just the iPad and my iPod Touch and like my coffee in there like it's all kind of like is withered like my Merce. It barely has any content in it so I feel like I should shrink my man first down so like then I feel like then that would really be a purse.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah. You can't go too small. That's the whole point, right?
>>Donald Bell: Yeah.
>>Eric Franklin: Actually women's purses are getting bigger so at some point you're going to meet and you're going to carrying a purse anyway. You, not me, just you.
>>Donald Bell: Alright, to avoid that though I'm going to go into my dungeon and I'm going to play my illegally acquired Microsoft Surface because you can't actually buy these.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, right.
>>Donald Bell: And I'm going to play Settlers of Catan because the little gaming that I do I do enjoy some Catan.
>>Eric Franklin: Do you really?
>>Donald Bell: Yeah.
>>Eric Franklin: Do you play it on...?
>>Donald Bell: On the iPod Touch mostly. I have the beta version of Catan for the iPad that I've been playing around with.
>>Eric Franklin: I've never played this game. What's the appeal? What I've heard it's kind of like the golf of Silicone Valley, you want to schmooze with the, like tech companies, you to play this game and you have to like...
>>Donald Bell: Oh, really.
>>Eric Franklin: Well, yeah.
>>Donald Bell: No, for me it's like a totally self involved me killing time on the bus kind of game but it's, the game play is pretty quick like I can get through an entire game.
>>Eric Franklin: It sounds like Civilization Light.
>>Donald Bell: I have no idea. My interest in this genre begins and ends with this.
>>Eric Franklin: Right, okay.
>>Donald Bell: But it's kind of like, it's a little bit like risk, you know.
>>Eric Franklin: Okay.
>>Donald Bell: Light but you're basically I don't want to go through the entire thing of Catan. If you're with me on Catan then you think this surface implementation application is pretty cool?
>>Eric Franklin: I think this is the surface of a patient is pretty cool even if not with Catan. The only thing I didn't like in the video the guy has to hide his cards, his hands on the surface.
>>Donald Bell: That's the thing I'll go back and rewind this to it, like you have them flipped over so you can't see them, you hit a button and they'll flip over and you've got to guard them from anyone else.
>>Eric Franklin: Then what is you forget to do that. I don't know, just doesn't seem that intuitive to me.
>>Donald Bell: The other thing that is a problem with this is that ultimately if you've got four people to play this or three people to play this with, why not just have the actual board game?
>>Eric Franklin: Right.
>>Donald Bell: It's a lot cheaper than having a surface but I guess this is, I mean, surface is just in hospitality situations where you're at like a Vegas casino and you might have one of these or at a hotel that has one.
>>Eric Franklin: Really, is that when it really happens?
>>Donald Bell: Yeah, that's right.
>>Eric Franklin: In a suite?
>>Donald Bell: Not in a suite but in like the lounge area or something like that or bar.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, probably crowded, already taken.
>>Donald Bell: I don't know. I thought that was pretty cool. Catan on the iPad so far is kind of the same version where it's a lot like the, if you have the original iPod Touch or iPhone version of Catan scaled up, but the graphics are a lot better.
>>Eric Franklin: So, when you play on that you have to cover your hand, you have to cover your cards with your hand...
>>Donald Bell: The thing for me is it's more like a solitaire thing where you can kind of just, you know, conquering this little mini-universe by myself unless I start playing against virtual care.
>>Eric Franklin: Well, maybe we should play it here.
>>Donald Bell: Yeah, that would be a great way to totally kill time and not get anywhere.
>>Eric Franklin: Because we're never busy.
>>Donald Bell: Right. Uhm, but something else we could do is take a field trip to San Francisco's Exploratorium which currently has a geometry themed playground that I'm really digging because if there's one thing I like, people probably don't know about me, and people will I'm sure want to know the more about me everyday.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, I do.
>>Donald Bell: Because I'm one of these really appealing compelling characters.
>>Eric Franklin: Mysterious.
>>Donald Bell: I'm really into like geodesic domes and geodesic structures.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah.
>>Donald Bell: I'm kind of a buck mister fuller net so the fact that there's this whole like geodesic themed, geometry themed...
>>Eric Franklin: Geometry Jell-o.
<<Donald Bell: Yeah, it looks like Jell-o shots. Of course, this kid not getting Jell-o shots. I'm sorry. This kid though is really upset that someone is making off with his 12-sided rombusts [phonetic].
>>Eric Franklin: I love the very San Franciscan nature of these photos.
>>Donald Bell: The multi-cultural.
>>Eric Franklin: Very multi-cultural like very like every kid is like multi-racial and it's awesome, it's great, like but it's very San Francisco, you know.
>>Donald Bell: This particular one looks like it's a head injury waiting to happen. I'm not sure.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, I don't know is that, where is that camera anyway?
>>Donald Bell: I don't know but, I mean, I will say this that, you know, usually your McDonald's ball pits are going to be a lot softer to land on than anything that has a lot of angles to it.
>>Eric Franklin: That's a horrible name for something for a kid to jump into. It's more fun.
>>Donald Bell: Alright, so the geometry playground is here in San Francisco at the Exploratorium and then it is moving to San Diego and then St. Paul, MN, and a few other cities after that and so if you're a geometry nut or you want to get your kid inspired.
>>Eric Franklin: Are you going to check it out do you think?
>>Donald Bell: Uhm, yeah.
>>Eric Franklin: Its here until September or so.
>>Donald Bell: My kid is old enough now where he would actually have fun doing this. He wouldn't understand any of the kind of mathematical.
>>Eric Franklin: Right.
>>Donald Bell: Underpinnings of it all?
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah.
>>Donald Bell: But he's have fun with it.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah.
>>Donald Bell: But my kid actually his one obsession that overrides any other obsessions in the world. I'm not just using this as a segway.
>>Eric Franklin: Other than you is?
>>Donald Bell: Other than me fans. This kid I swear to God I take him to Bed, Bath and Beyond is his favorite place in the world.
>>Eric Franklin: Are you serious?
>>Donald Bell: Yeah, just to checkout fans.
>>Eric Franklin: Just the concept of fans, something spinning that fast. He isn't really pinning, he doesn't know what's going on.
>>Donald Bell: He just wants to turn it on and off fans.
>>Eric Franklin: He wants to stick his finger in there I'm sure.
>>Donald Bell: Fan on, fan off. As soon as it's on he wants to turn it off.
>>Eric Franklin: Right.
>>Donald Bell: But if I'm going to let him loose on a fan...
>>Eric Franklin: Right.
>>Donald Bell: Seriously, one that I would let him like totally play with on his own, these Dyson fans or the air multipliers that don't have any blades on them so he's not going to like chop off a limb.
>>Eric Franklin: This is the one I'm buying.
>>Donald Bell: This year the air multipliers by Dyson have been around for a while. They're some of the most expensive fans you can buy and from trying them out they also don't like blow a lot of air.
>>Eric Franklin: Oh, you've tried them?
>>Donald Bell: Yeah, okay but I mean they get the job done. They look pretty.
>>Eric Franklin: They kind fit in with that whole like, you know, modern city apartment in like New York, like Manhattan, you know.
>>Donald Bell: Sure, I mean, if you have to have the most high-tech fan and, you know, ever devised then James Dyson wants to sell you one. Of course, he wants to sell you one for $450 and these are the two new models that just came out that are floor standing models; one that just like towers above him if he's sitting down apparently.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah.
>>Donald Bell: I thought this guy would kind of wear classier shoes in this.
>>Eric Franklin: You notice that.
>>Donald Bell: I'm noticing that right now.
>>Eric Franklin: He's just that rich. When you get that rich you kind of like reset. You kind of start over.
>>Donald Bell: I would think that he would have some like the Unshoe, like some kind of shoe like totally revolutionizes footwear.
>>Eric Franklin: So, I was walking the other day and I thought why not an Unshoe. My shoes are so shoe. That's my Dyson.
>>Donald Bell: Or like the web shoes. Like the ones you've got on.
>>Eric Franklin: I don't know what those are?
>>Donald Bell: No?
>>Eric Franklin: No.
>>Donald Bell: You know, the ones with the separate toes.
>>Eric Franklin: I've never heard of those.
>>Donald Bell: Never heard of those?
>>Eric Franklin: Nope.
>>Donald Bell: I'll leave it there. Never seen me walking around the office in those?
>>Eric Franklin: Never.
>>Donald Bell: Never.
>>Eric Franklin: Ever.
>>Donald Bell: Oh, man. Another thing that I think that the Dyson guy is probably kicking himself for not coming up with is wire tape and this is from Josh Loads and he found this at E3. We've talked a little bit about it on Buzz Out Load but that's just something I genuinely crave. I want to show this is tape that is like just, was it .16mm thin.
>>Eric Franklin: Okay.
>>Donald Bell: And it is like a universal kind of cable system that you can run throughout your home and so flat that you can kind of just adhere it to a wall and then paint over it and you won't even notice it.
>>Eric Franklin: Right.
>>Donald Bell: And then it terminates into this like little box so you can just have this little box kind of come out from the wall out of nowhere and then that box can be any kind of connection you want. So, it can be an HDMI connection, it can be Ethernet connection, uhm, there's two different kinds of cables but mostly this is going to be really good for audio video visual applications for maybe surround sound setup in your home or...
>>Eric Franklin: Without it being an eyesore.
>>Donald Bell: The Ethernet connection from one side of the house to another without running cable, you know, under the carpet and through your home and...
>>Eric Franklin: Along the walls and, you know, it's like this long black table on your white walls.
>>Donald Bell: Right, so the company is called Wire Tape, the website is like still like a work in progress. I mean, they're definitely just coming out, this technology and even Josh had to really pin them down on the shelf life, they went to their booth at E3 and there's nobody there.
>>Eric Franklin: Of course not.
>>Donald Bell: He calls a few people, he's like, oh you're interested in it, well, okay bring people right up and we'll have somebody show the technology.
>>Eric Franklin: I hate that.
>>Donald Bell: It is really cool. I think this is going to be one of the things where you probably won't install this yourself but you'll probably see this in more homes kind of already.
>>Eric Franklin: I wouldn't want to deal with installing it myself. Honestly, it seems like a pain in the ass to get this stuff. I don't know. I mean it's probably better than wire but just the picture they use here or we used here, it's all like, you know, twisted and whatever and loopy and I don't know it doesn't look that much better than wire as far as like getting rid of the clutter absent the thinness of it, I get that, you know you could paint over it and all of this stuff.
>>Donald Bell: The idea is that you wouldn't see it. You know, the way that you would apply is that in a way that you would never see even the terminal connections...
>>Eric Franklin: Does it bend light?
>>Donald Bell: What was that?
>>Eric Franklin: Does it bend light?
>>Donald Bell: It will bend space time.
>>Eric Franklin: Okay.
>>Donald Bell: So, that will actually.
>>Eric Franklin: It actually won't even be there.
>>Donald Bell: It'll carve out the amount of time that you spend installing it and erase it so that you don't even remember.
>>Eric Franklin: So, you get that time back?
>>Donald Bell: Yeah.
>>Eric Franklin: Effectively.
>>Donald Bell: Yeah, which is probably why the people disappeared who were in the booth at E3. They actually just got sucked into warp...
>>Eric Franklin: Speaking of which, I haven't heard from Josh in like a week.
>>Donald Bell: I think I just saw him.
>>Eric Franklin: Oh, okay, good.
>>Donald Bell: He's back. We're going to take this moment to play a commercial for you which I actually remembered.
>>Eric Franklin: I know, I totally forgot.
>>Donald Bell: Here we go. Was your mind blown?
>>Eric Franklin: I tell you that music is so like web podcast show, you know someone need to be talking over that music at the tail end of that in order to really understand that, you know, it's like once that, the tail end of that music you should be coming down like "We're back at the Crave podcast, this is Eric Franklin and Donald Bell here, it's 12:45 in the p.m."
>>Donald Bell: You're too good at that, man.
>>Eric Franklin: Awe, man.
>>Donald Bell: Yes but you know what that show wouldn't have?
>>Eric Franklin: What?
>>Donald Bell: Lasers.
>>Eric Franklin: It would, yeah, it would.
>>Donald Bell: Alright, this show has got lasers. We've got a working light saber which you can order for around $230 I want to say. It's the Spider 3 Pro Arctic and unlike other light saber replicas you could possibly buy, this one will actually burn your eyeball out of its socket.
>>Eric Franklin: They actually say that? They actually tell you this?
>>Donald Bell: In case you buy this, just know don't point it at anybody or you'll burn off their skin and even if you look at the laser for second, you will irreparably damage your eyes.
>>Eric Franklin: Yes, they tell you this and yet they sell it for $230?
>>Donald Bell: Yeah, it does look pretty cool, though.
>>Eric Franklin: It looks mad cool. I want to know like how fast, how soon after you start using this do you get cancer?
>>Donald Bell: Yeah, and there's also no practical application for this. I mean, if they made it for science applications then why would you necessarily form it to look like a light saber? If you made this for a toy, why would you make a toy that can burn out a child's eyeballs just by looking at it?
>>Eric Franklin: This is not for kids.
>>Donald Bell: Don't order this thing.
>>Eric Franklin: Don't order this thing.
>>Eric Franklin: However, at $230 it's not in the realm of possibility that like a young teenager could, you know, find this on the internet, order it without his parents knowing and then, you know, one night, they're hearing screams coming from his bedroom, you know, it's like they think he has a girl in there but no he comes in and he's blind.
>>Donald Bell: Yeah, his eyeballs melted out of his skull.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, exactly.
>>Donald Bell: So, don't order this for your kids guys but it is kind of cool that they really have made a light saber that can hurt people and the light saber is on the way.
>>Eric Franklin: You know, eventually we're going to get to that point, aren't we?
>>Donald Bell: Yeah.
>>Eric Franklin: We're going to get to that point where we actually have working light sabers and people are going to be cutting their limbs off trying to use that thing. Their own limbs and their...
>>Donald Bell: You always think about how cool a light saber would be until you realize, oh my God, if someone actually had that?
>>Eric Franklin: Rather than just someone just whipping it out on the street. People will start screaming and running. It's like, no.
>>Donald Bell: Even if you were just eviscerating a squirrel in a demonstration. It would be so terrifying that you would be.
>>Eric Franklin: You have to leave the party, sorry. You gotta go.
>>Donald Bell: You would soil yourself and then run.
>>Eric Franklin: Oh my God, what a horrible idea, seriously.
>>Donald Bell: To make up for it we have cute robots. We have Hitachi coming out with a humanoid robot.
>>Eric Franklin: Yah.
>>Donald Bell: In typical Japanese adorable robot fashion, the Hitachi humanoid robot, the MEU [phonetic] which is like a...
>>Eric Franklin: It does nothing.
>>Donald Bell: ...of this particular MEU series.
>>Eric Franklin: Emu?
>>Donald Bell: Emu, too. The demo video on CNET's Crave blog which you can find at Crave.CNET.com is pretty boring for the first half. It goes through it typical robot kind of courtesy bows and a cuteness and look at the little head. Oh, oh, I just want to take it home. Okay, so let's cut through to the middle where it actually does stuff. The thing that this robot does is that other robots don't do as well is that it can adapt to rolling over obstacles.
>>Eric Franklin: That are one centimeter tall.
>>Donald Bell: Well, the idea is if this is running through like a hospital or running through some kind of situation where there might be cables on the floor or someone's tossed like a, you know, a magazine or coffee cup on the floor or whatever that it can kind of just adapt and roll over it without just freaking out and being like, you know, I've been undone by someone throwing coffee on the floor.
>>Eric Franklin: Right. Short circuited the brain.
>>Donald Bell: I'm a three million dollar robot that just got paralyzed by...
>>Eric Franklin: Outsmarted by a coffee cup.
>>Donald Bell: Right.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, I mean, what is this going to be used for again.
>>Donald Bell: It's going to sink the tour guide robot. It's the awesome mo kind of robot but with it's a little bit faster than awesome mo can be.
>>Eric Franklin: Okay, so like...
>>Donald Bell: Here's the real challenge in carpets.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, exactly.
>>Donald Bell: You'll then put like cables down to show that it can run over cables, too.
>>Eric Franklin: Like Ethernet cables?
>>Donald Bell: Yeah, okay but what this guy isn't cool as is when I was watching this I thought of the big dog or the little dog. Where is he? Big little dog, this guy.
>>Eric Franklin: Big dog.
>>Donald Bell: Now, this guy can really handle some obstacles, right?
>>Eric Franklin: He looks tough.
>>Donald Bell: We talked about this guy before.
>>Eric Franklin: Have we?
>>Donald Bell: Oh, yeah. I don't know if we talked about him on Crave or not but this guy can actually handle some serious obstacles, he can go up steps, go across rocks, you can crawl the service of the moon, right?
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah.
>>Donald Bell: But he's not as adorable. No where as near as that one. This looks like something that other robot would crap out, right?
>>Eric Franklin: Wasn't it kind, it's kind of, okay, it's making it.
>>Donald Bell: Yeah, but this guy can't go as fast. So, eventually maybe they'll meld the two technologies and we'll...
>>Eric Franklin: Also it learns.
>>Donald Bell: Yeah, this is like the most amazing robot.
>>Eric Franklin: There's some actual...
>>Donald Bell: The scariest robot you've ever seen. This is the...
>>Eric Franklin: Some Pseudo AI going on here.
>>Donald Bell: Yeah, but...
>>Eric Franklin: This is actually much more interesting than Johnny 5 whatever it was.
>>Donald Bell: Also interesting and robotic and pretty cool is a test, a little wooden ornithopter robot that is basically designed after a butterfly but uses no mechanical parts. This is using just like balsa wood, like plastic film and a rubber band and even a little bit of glue and is as light weight as a butterfly and has been designed to completely mimic the wing motions of a butterfly.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, I love the high-speed camera work here.
>>Donald Bell: Yeah, exactly. Apparently it can actually stay airborne for about one and half seconds before it falls to its, you know, balsa wood fragile death but...
>>Eric Franklin: That's why you need the high-speed camera is to capture that two seconds.
>>Donald Bell: It is interesting in the way that its actually, you know, it's using no like actual digital technology to accomplish this and that we're kind of coming closer to understanding like the actual flight dynamics of a butterfly.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, because, you know, until we figure out that, you know...
>>Donald Bell: What?
>>Eric Franklin: You can't move on as society.
>>Donald Bell: How will human kind keep going?
>>Eric Franklin: I don't know.
>>Donald Bell: Mastered butterfly flight but no I think there's some really interesting applications that could be taken out of this especially when it comes to light weight possibly disposable, you know, flying robots that will turn on us and kill us like all the other robots.
>>Eric Franklin: Yes, the birds.
>>Donald Bell: Before we all become the enslaved minions of the robots we've created...
>>Eric Franklin: Which I'm looking forward to.
>>Donald Bell: Which will be fun don't get me wrong. Let's enjoy our time as the master species on this planet with some custom made chocolate.
>>Eric Franklin: Yes.
>>Donald Bell: Coming from Crave blogs, Jeff Sparkman also, one of our copy editors here.
>>Eric Franklin: Oh, nice.
>>Donald Bell: And he has found a website, a chocolate manufacturer called Chocri.
>>Eric Franklin: Chocri.
>>Donald Bell: Originally from German but now they're in the states and you can go to their website which is I think CreatMyChocolate.com.
>>Eric Franklin: Yes.
>>Donald Bell: Here it is and you can custom design your own like Willy Wonka perfect chocolate bar with whatever toppings including like gold flakes and sea salt and like...
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah and you can, yeah, I'm glad you can choose milk dark or white.
>>Donald Bell: Right, you get your bases which are your milk chocolate, white chocolate, dark chocolate.
>>Eric Franklin: I'm glad the milk was in there.
>>Donald Bell: Then you just custom design whatever you want and then you can call it whatever you want and it comes with its own like it will actually, the title you give it will be printed on the chocolate bar and then if you ever want to reorder that particular, you know, unique combination ingredients, it will save that as a blueprint for you and you can reorder it.
>>Eric Franklin: Are you going to try it out? I kind of want to try it out.
>>Donald Bell: Here's the catch, though, its seven bucks a bar but...
>>Eric Franklin: How big is a bar? Is it one of those giant rectangular huge bars that you get, you know.
>>Donald Bell: I think it's pretty big. It looks like a pretty...
>>Eric Franklin: Ah, I'd do it, I'd try it once.
>>Donald Bell: I'd try it once and the minimum order is two bars.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah.
>>Donald Bell: But, yeah, that seems to make sense. If you want some of the really classy like extras like the gold flakes or the gold flakes are like $2.10 to add to the bar but it's gold, you know.
>>Eric Franklin: You're eating gold. I mean.
>>Donald Bell: You know, you're basically laughing in the face of people starving in the world.
>>Eric Franklin: Exactly, would you want to do that?
>>Donald Bell: Eating something that has zero nutritional value and took someone, you know, God knows how long and how much money to extract from the ground.
>>Eric Franklin: Exactly.
>>Donald Bell: You can do it.
>>Eric Franklin: As a capitalist society I think you're...
>>Donald Bell: It's kind of your obligation.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, exactly.
>>Donald Bell: Living in the first world to eat gold on your chocolate bar that costs you $10. You're going to do it, though. This looks like the place to go cause you can have your gold flecks and your gummy bears and your, you know, sprinkles and cereal and banana chips all into one metabar [phonetic] and that has made me hungry and so I think that's probably a good place to end the show.
>>Eric Franklin: I think so. Let's go get some chocolate.
>>Donald Bell: Let's go get some chocolate. Eric, thanks again for joining me on today's podcast and you are every week doing the CNET Labs inside CNET Labs podcast.
>>Eric Franklin: Yeah, yeah, it's, I co-host inside CNET Labs podcast with Dome Know. Who a lot of people know and we do that every week. It's not live but that's okay.
>>Donald Bell: It's recorded and a lot of hah, hah.
>>Eric Franklin: It's got a lot of hah, hah, a lot of funny business going on.
>>Donald Bell: I enjoy that.
>>Eric Franklin: Yes.
>>Donald Bell: Alright, thanks for being here today and thanks today for joining us today on Crave video podcast.
>>Eric Franklin: Bye.
