E 63 S or GT R, which Mercedes-AMG should you pick?
Welcome to a car that I've wanted to do a video with for a very long time.
This is the brutal, brilliant, AMG GTR.
The GTR currently sits at the top of the AMG tree, It has all of the latest techs including a titanium exhaust, rear wheel steering and a nine stage traction control system.
It's roof and front wings are made from carbon fiber and yes it has a name that annoys some owners.
Red Castle became a pretty distinctive airfield tracks in the UK and I think it actually suits this car.
All the aerodynamics can actually get to work here.
Bit of room to play.
Feel the rear wheel steering through this chicane here.
I just adore this car.
I love the fact that in this car as well, you've got a real [UNKNOWN], a proper hooligan cuz that's what NGs sort of known for I suppose.
Just balance is hard.
It's so well exiting corners.
And there's also [UNKNOWN] these gearboxes no end.
There was a time when it was really sort of restrictive [UNKNOWN] really keep up with it, coming around.
But this is absolutely instant now the way it changes gear.
Hugely stable on the braking.
Rear wheel steer that this has helps it, but also gives it stability through this tricky tight chicane, right in through there.
They've spent a lot of time being all very hands over Green hell references the most pain.
And I've got this in the middle of the dampen settings because I think it copes with the bumps round this circuit slightly better that way.
We've turned the dampers up to their firmest, you'll see that yes it gets a bit more instant but it also gets just a bit [SOUND] A bit spikier a bit choppier.
[UNKNOWN] really smooth [UNKNOWN], but I think it's best in its middle setting.
I love this thing.
It is a phenomenal car, and the harder you push it the better it seems to get.
It's a big step on from the original AMGTT.
And another thing, what should we compare this to?
The obvious thing is probably a Porsche 911 GT 3RS, perhaps a BMW M4 GTS.
Then I thought there are probably gonna be quite a few of you watching this thinking, I would love one of those.
But I need Need to carry more than one passenger or just need more luggage space.
Otherwise, my vintage [UNKNOWN] won't fit.
So I thought, what in compared to this, I give you the E63 S?
It might look like a very different car to the GT R. Indeed, it is a very different car to the GT R. But under the bonnet is essentially the same four liter V8 engine with two turbo chargers stowed in the view.
So the question is, just how much super car is there in this big [UNKNOWN]?
First test, sound.
Surely, that picks [UNKNOWN] can compete with this in its titanium silence
[SOUND] Well, this particular car has been fitted with the AMG performance exhaust.
As you can hear, [SOUND] it sounds very good.
AMG really Congratulations on this engine because of all the new breed of turbo charged engines this, hands down sans the best.
Doesn't matter if you're in a GTR or this E Class, what a nice...they arguably had so much to live up [UNKNOWN] wonderful naturally aspirated V8, but this is just brilliant.
If we've being super critical, then what you don't get in this is the all encompassing sound that when you get into the GTR and start it up, it feels, well, it just feels like it's a part of you.
But nonetheless for a big saloon, it's quite an echoing for that V8.
Next up, looks.
Alright then, it's not really a contest is it?
I mean, some wider rear arches on that might help, and yes that is a seven and a half thousand pound paint option Called green hell magno, just in case you're wondering.
But that definitely looks better.
It seems almost unfair to have a drag race.
But, while we're here.
I haven't checked the specs, but surely the sports car is gonna win the drag race.
I must have this.
I done completely destroyed that.
The four wheel drive just, I was in race start.
Perhaps I need to warm the tires a bit, but even so, I'm not sure I'm beating that.
Perhaps I should have checked the specs.
Of course, if I'd checked the stats beforehand, I'd have seen the Mercedes' own figures actually placed the e63s ahead of the GTR at a drag race to 62 miles an hour.
With the eased 3.4 seconds, besting the GTR's 3.6 seconds.
What's more, it seems that Saloon's figures are much easier to achieve and repeat thanks to one thing we haven't mentioned thus far.
It's four wheel drive.
There's no doubt which would be quicker around a lap, but the sports car shouldn't mess with the Saloon at the traffic lights.
While we're about it, let's do a quick top trumps comparison with a few other categories.
Top speed, in the green corner we have 198 miles an hour.
On the white corner we have electronically limited 186 miles an hour.
Power, green has 577 break horse power, white has 604 break horsepower.
Torque, green's 516 pounds per foot.
[UNKNOWN] white, 605 pounds per foot.
Wait, green tips the scale at 1630 kilos while white weighs in at 950 kilos.
[UNKNOWN] wins Both cars have the same optional ceramic composite brakes, with six piston calipers clamping 402 millilitre discs up front.
So that one's a draw.
There are bucket seats in both cars, but not all bucket seats are born equal.
Only GTR wins this one.
We could keep going, but overall it's surprisingly even, although the Saloon has one final trump card.
This spec not withstanding, it's at least 40,000 pounds cheaper than the sports car.
The final metric to compare is fun.
So that's the fun projected stuff if you like over.
What we wanna know is how many ZT3 actually get anywhere close to the GTI in terms Is as fun around a track.
[SOUND] Well, in some ways, yes.
[SOUND] It's hugely impressive, this big car.
The main thing it's obviously got against it is the weight, it ways over 300 kilos more.
But mitigating against that, we've got carbon ceramic brakes as an option on this car.
You can ratchet the suspension all out so it feels really, very Very tight to control but, in fact, I think it feels nicer because you kind of always want that big Saloon feel.
So I think knocking them back just to a little setting's nice, just until you get a bit of rolling and feel how the car is moving around in the corners.
The gear box is phenomenal, it's the nine speed MCT as opposed to the dual clutch option that you got in the GTR.
It's hugely impressive.
It's jumping quick in a straight line still.
Can you imagine turning up to a track there in one of these.
People will look at you and go, "What on earth has he got that here for?" You would have a well of a time.
We obviously need to talk about the fact that this four-wheel-drive, is basically GTR's rear-wheel-drive.
Really, just it makes sense turning you can still go wonderfully sideways.
[LAUGH] And even this has the drift mode, but to be honest I don't think you'd really need it.
Because the four wheel drive gives you a little bit of nice extra stability on the exit of corners.
This is in four wheel drive mode, so I really don't see the drift mode is anything other than a gimmick and sort of placating people that think four wheel drive no boring.
Must be able to do a couple of front axle.
What a silly but really fun car.
Now it's not as nimble on the wedge corners, that's obviously where you really, really do notice the difference between the two cars.
But given that this has got two extra seats and a massive boot.
I love it.
The E63s sits in a fine tradition of slightly bonkers super saloons
It's a [UNKNOWN] select club.
But this car upholds the values of such things as the Lotus Carlton B39M5 and indeed the original red [UNKNOWN] that started the AMG story.
It is a truly wonderful thing.
Of course given the choice between
Both cars, if I could have either of them and money was no object, I'm going to say I would pick the GTR.
It's just so exciting.
A brilliant, brilliant car.
But I love the fact that the MG, you've got [UNKNOWN] it's got so much of this in its DNA
Went silly, but it's also a little bit brilliant.
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