-I'm guessing the phrase "great value and flagship luxu sedan don't together in your head," but if you spend much time with this guy, they might get a lot closer.
Let's drive the 2013 Lexus LS 460 with the F-Sport package.
Now, with this LS in F-Sport trim,
who's Lexus going after, really not BMW.
They are not even dou M7, but that leads the S class and it's AMG version and of course Audi's 8 in the S trim.
Lexus has always been known for a very fine touch on precision and luxury and new ones, but are they still on top of the stock on tech.
Inside, all Lexus and especially the LS screamed high tech in the 1970s Japanese way, which I offer as a offer as a compliment,
lots of buttons and indicator lights, crisp high tech gauge phases, a lot of blue lighting, and a vaguely masculine touch.
The same things I might say of techniques quadraphonic receiver.
You navigate the lanes of this bit wide screen with this, the Lexus remote touch controller.
I'll be honest, the novelty of it is worn off for me since its introduction a couple model years ago, and I now find it fitly and imprecise.
Under my hand at least, it's just a lot of overshooting when I'm trying to cursor to something.
So, of course, you can fall back to voice command,
which is generally excellent in this LS in terms of comprehension, but kind of old school and that it generally requires button and beat parsing for each part of an address for example.
Enter and address.
-Enter an address.
Searching California, say only the city name and say change state.
-Rear cam, standard, but front cams, all around cams and a variable view rearm cam don't show up here, again, somewhat dated.
Media choices, however, have all the modern hits, AM/FM HD, with tagging, sat radio, USB plus iPod, Bluetootch streaming, and of course an optical drive.
On top of that, you have Lexus version of Toyota's ground breaking Entune apps.
Here, they call it in form, Yelp, Open Table, Pandora, Bing, iheartradio, and Facebook places.
The later, I think, is unique to the Lexus side,
and probably the least relevant, 19 speaker, 450-watt 450-watt Mark Levinson audio is a Lexus hallmark, but it remains an upgrade on the LS 460.
Lexus was a pioneer in fancy rare cabins and on this one you ca get shiatsu massage rear seats with butterfly headrests recline, dedicated rear heater and air purifier, but all that second row luxury in a car that isn't a long wheel based, doesn't make a lot of sense to me, do an L for that.
Lexus of course builds engines that seem to come out of the Rolex factory, and this one is no exception even though you can't see any of it.
4.6 liter V8, no tricks, no blowers, no turbos, no hybrid, 385 horsepower, 367 foot-pounds of torque, get this guy to 60 in 5.4 seconds.
That's moving 4360 some what pounds and still delivering 16/24 MPGA.
Everything goes out through an H speed automatic and either rear wheel drive like we have or all wheel drive option.
On the way on the LS, you're totally aware of the smoothness of it.
Right there with Audi, it's one of the smoothest engineered cars out there.
They have dialled out almost all the noise vibration and harshness that the auto industry goes after as a basket of bad guys.
On the other hand, it therefore has a certain softness almost.
We are just driving the BMW 750 against this car, which we've got another video on head to head and this is much of a of finer, softer, lighter input type vehicle even though it's meant to be a very sport trim version with this F package.
Now, like many cars in each category, we've got a couple sports settings, a normal setting, a couple of comfort settings, you may not find a huge difference between the ones that are in one end or the other like the sports, you know, I could use one same for comfort,
but it's all software, so why not give people more features that they will pay for it.
Even as an F-sport, the power is somewhat vary in this LS until you go looking for and you still mistake it for an M car.
When pressed and in sport mode with manual shifting and lowered adaptive suspension doing its firmest, the big Lexus still feels like a fine car in performance mode more than a serious performance car that's also luxurious.
I actually think that makes sense certainly for an LS.
No head up display or night vision available here.
Blind spot tech though is standard as its lane departure and collision avoidance.
They can flat stop the car at up to city speeds if it spots something out there that you don't.
And here's my take on LS 460.
In the F-sport trim, what a hell of a value, 728 was based, I threw every options at it, 16,000 and change for the ultra luxury package and I barely go over 89,000.
Compared to the Germans, that's a steel.
The LS 460 F-Sport slots a notable AMG and M in terms of meanness.
It's a nicer performance flagship, and for most it's a smarter buy in terms of MSRP and depreciation, Lexus has the best app system in its class.
Buy one of these, because you like precision, comfort and performance, but when the AMG car pulls up alongside do it alight, weight them on.
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