The great iPad debate

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And to start it off, we're gonna talk about iPad. Apple's got a new iPad. It's the same price as last year's cheap iPad but it supports pencil now. Does that make a difference? Is this new iPad the iPad for everyone? Is this the one you should be buying? I'm Scott Stein I'm Dan Ackerman. And we look at a lot of iPads and we're gonna debate it, discuss it. Point, counterpoint it. Yes. So we just got these things, and we've been using it, and what's new about this thing? Well that's the thing, it is really almost exactly the same as last year's iPad which we call the 2017 9.7 inch iPad, Except they added support for the Apple Pencil, which is something you have to buy separately. It used to be just on the iPad Pro. I think at this point, this seems, for the price and for that feature, to be the one you'd want. And it kind of reminds me of the iPhone SE, which is what we said about last year's entry level iPad in that the nicest thing about this is that the specs are actually pretty good. The A10 processor so far in the early benchmark tests has proved really fast. It's faster than the original iPad Pro models, and there are some other things that are different. So, if you're into the iPad Pros and you like the idea of a Smart Connector, there is no Smart Connector. Yeah, look at mine right next to yours here. Okay. Right, so that means that you can't attach one of Apple's Smart Connector's keyboards. Yeah! Instead you have to go with a bluetooth keyboard. Mm-hmm. Or ones for schools that connect via Lightning, which is not terrible. There's plenty of Bluetooth keyboards, but it's a little bit different. Look at these side by side for a second. Mm-hm. Turn it around the other way, identical, turn it around to the back. Now the big trick here, Scott, is you have the new 2018 iPad that Apple just announced yesterday. I've actually got right here the 2017 iPad And they're exactly the same, Chazzy. I mean, the only differences are the processor, the pencil support, which basically, according to Apple, is both software and hardware based. Which means they've done something. They've added some additional component to the display stack in order for it to recognize. The pencil and pair with it via bluetooth and actually work. But other than that there are the same. You're right, they don't have the smart connected, they don't have the rotation lock switch anymore. It's exactly the same. The only way to test it out would be to whip out a pencil and then put in to each one and see which one is pairing with it, that would work. And this also works at the same assesories. So if you had a case For last year's iPad. It will work here. If you really want the best iPad, sure for the extra screen size and you've got money to burn, go for the pro. Or just go buy a MacBook then. Yeah, get a MacBook. Or keep in mind that they're probably gonna update those pros any day now. So don't go get one right now, you wanna wait a couple of months anyhow, see what happens. Now here's the key. If you wanna use one of these as a laptop replacement which is what people are always pitching them as, especially the pro You kind of wanna get the pencil which is sort of a replacement for a mouse in a way, it gives you that fine control. And you wanna get a keyboard of some kind. Those are usually $100 to $200. So you have to add at least $200 to $250 on to the $300 base price of this or more if you get the 128 gig version. This is the basic one is only what 32? Yeah, the basic is 32. Okay. So you're looking at spending over $500. Right! So maybe you'll just get a laptop then instead. Right. And I think they haven't changed any of the basic elements of what makes an ipad an ipad. Including the pencil which was rolling all over the place on this tablet. It still has the same. Little cap that you could lose. It still charges by jutting out the bottom like a little dagger. So be careful in your school. And none of that's changed so that's frustrating. There's no case that contains it and The keyboard. There's none with a track pad still I've never seen a more elegant, industrial design then this. Here you go. So your still gonna charge it like that. Charges fast but it charges weirdly. So doesn't have anything that's transformed into a laptop. There's no way to add a Macbook like base to do work. And between that and the browser which still doesn't feel like a Chrome browser Or like a laptop browser, you're not gonna be able to necessarily get all the web stuff done in the same way that you would on a laptop. And that's the biggest frustration [UNKNOWN] About the iPad. I mean, I go back and say to people, if you wanna get an inexpensive tablet, the Amazon Fire HT10 for about 150 bucks The screen is almost the same size. It's a little bit smaller but it's actually really good especially if you're playing video and it has a lot of the same games in the Amazon App Store, which is a version of android App Store. If you wanna spend a little bit more about 300 bucks or 300 and change. You get a really nice super premium tablet here. But if you gonna spend a bunch more you might as well get a regular laptop or for $500, frankly the same price is this plus a keyboard plus a pencil you can get a really really really nice chrome book like the Samsung chrome book pro Which is Intel based, it's a touch screen, it's got a keyboard, it's got the 360 degree inch and it has a stylus also. And you can also access any apps on the android app store, the Google Play Store because all that stuff works on Chrome Books now. iPads are really great household devices, I still think. So if you haven't gotten one in a while and I think if you wanted one for your home, this stands as a really good one. One that your kids would use, one that you would use. And maybe you have one you haven't updated in a while and you say a lot of people have iPad 2s kicking around, and they say do I really need to upgrade? I think this is a good price [MUSIC] And a good upgrade point, cuz I don't think the iPad is gonna change all that much. It's gotten pretty solidified in what it is. So you're basically getting just enough speed and everything else, and it supports Pencil. That's a good entry point. You made a good point there that iPad 2, which a lot of people [UNKNOWN], I have an old iPad 2 at home that my son uses. iPad 2017 right here. Apple talked a lot about augmented reality, AR apps and stuffs just downloaded [UNKNOWN]. They were talked on yesterday, work fine on here. They work on both, so don't worry [UNKNOWN] AR and neither one. Don't get this for AR, get it for upgraded iPad. Get that for [UNKNOWN]. Yeah, or get a laptop. [MUSIC]

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