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Ep. 1554: How low will the stock go?Rafe Needleman joins us on the show today to discuss the dropping stock prices of RIM, Netflix and HP.How low will they go? We take a closer look at Scarlett Johansson's hacking scandal and Rafe shares with us a very special video about taxidermy. All...
It's Friday September 16 2011 my name is Steven -- of primary Palin I'm -- -- a look at the buzz out loud is cnet's podcast of undetermined lake. Is episode stopped mounting the words and -- forward jets are supposed to be against just -- -- respectful to host a do not a -- gonna do kill the show. -- amendment to weekly or if not let people know that before the show ring dances and deceit telling them you know they know that I wanna extend its if this looks at its arguments have charged it -- otherwise I really -- -- welcome back great always Italian mouse always loved doing the show on its episode 1554 since we did actually get to that. And today some. -- top stories that really kick off with. It's all about the money or the lack. Of money explicitly pumping through rim now rim shares dropped and hemorrhaging out -- ram and it. Dropped like a rock dropping somewhere around eighteen to 20% in pre market trading on Friday this is after. Their -- earnings forecasts and Wall Street sales and earnings forecast that says. Rim shipped ten point six million Blackberry Smartphones. Below the eleven to -- -- five million it expected. In its tablet battle the playbook just shipped. 200000. Units this is shipping not sold. Just shipped 200000 units a significant drop from the 500000 -- shipped in the prior quarter. And in more painful news -- earned 329. Million dollars in the quarter less than half. Of its profit less than half of its profit from a year ago. The -- co CEO Mike as a readers and churn up your credit that's -- there's another -- -- have another chance. Said them He -- He still bullish on rim of course you have to be if you're -- leadership of a -- of a business but. This is kind of a model where He should be I -- and the sake can't we screwed up you know that to operating systems product nobody likes a quick. And the Internet that He would have started -- -- just as hopeless He was tallying. Their upcoming playbook 2.0 software overhaul. Valid Hulk sales. Oh my gosh the help sales the way that. HP killing there are well as -- the tablet they're touch -- they sold hunt based they sold out their inventory -- -- slightly summit fire sales could for people bought souvenirs historical curiosities that you know platelets for instance I'm sorry I mean. These guys are saying oh you know what with playbook 2.0 with Q and X and all that stuff we're gonna be able to make it happen. And be a viable competitor to Apple and and Google's Android. And are actually based on what we've seen from Microsoft. I actually think Microsoft is going to you know be the next the number three player with. Over the long term a real shot at being a significant force the market I don't see how -- can get its moto back. -- you can see here and it's pretty clear. Rim. In my in my opinion humble opinion -- is never gonna be the same company and -- used -- when you drop. More than half. From the previous year and a product line that you have shows no sign of promise or even general consumer interest right you. They don't have the products helping to get themselves -- this'll. You don't let you know another company was in that same hole didn't have the products that they -- -- -- -- -- mentioned do it. A long time ago -- I -- about the fruit I am the Big Apple pretty -- Apple did it. But Apple had jobs. And rim and I -- right you know and He announces dual CEO thing -- like coma. I mean that you know this product is challenged in in the new. Technology economy by Apple and and Google and Microsoft's are. And then you've got these two heads you know with in equal stake in running the company. It's you it's who I don't -- is the cook. Yeah exactly kitchen is the Tim Cook there is -- Tim Cook. There's now a distillation getting jobs has known that. I'm gonna -- discounts that the colors are rich -- Also -- hot -- wanted to see Howell. This is affecting other markets or -- other companies Apple's stock on the news a research emotions loss because. The prospect of them clearly showing how. Their dominance. Has been destroying and rim and other companies Android as well Apple Stock is back to flirting with their 400 dollar per share number. Their highest it ever it was 404 but earlier this morning it was as close is like 399. Upon you know with the news of Raymond one goes down the other goes up. Yeah I wonder how they're doing -- at the Apple's now competing with Exxon and mark in the market -- battle which is hilarious but. Let's. They know how did they know what they're doing. In other money money news that we talked about Netflix and how one million subscribers. Had canceled their subscriptions. Netflix stock on reaction that also plunged. On the news that subscribers. Decided to drop the ball that's down let's see -- -- the forecasts on them for the current quarter now expects and with 24 million. We did talk about that. But they're stock was affected town nearly liked very much like rims and black rims -- -- -- 19%. Even though. The company did not change its earnings or sales guidance. Yeah I AM not bullish on Netflix -- I mean I I love the service I have it by the way approach to appear I went from the streaming plus dvd service and like most everybody else I'd lopped off the dvd service -- -- all streaming. And I sent back my last dvd. In the sent me another one -- are right. I sent -- back. They sent me another one that's like would you stop sending me the dvd is gaming the system me I I don't I mean maybe -- his estimate subscription hasn't timed out or something better at some point they're. -- -- Image if if if that's what they're actually doing when they're definitely it was a lot of money because and -- management or might dispute with description has managed out yet. But up you know considering what's going on with Amazon be having a really good having a good streaming library Hulu Hulu plus. The cable stuff you know the X affinity and the of the what's -- HBO go on things like that. Netflix can't be raising prices and cutting content which they are with the stars -- which may not be their fault. This is the wrong time to be flipping over the value equation for consumers when the compact competition is getting a really good. And iPod are ready to give up Netflix -- -- -- all the content from other services anyway. And you feel like consumers do -- investors obviously with this pull back from Netflix stock is that they're not they have still yet and we've talked about this. It's still yet to lock -- any new content deals that make a saint -- I'm actually going to -- Netflix another chance or extend my service with them. We haven't heard we've -- we've heard of services and content being pulled but not CNET news. And it's and does nothing has changed from the month and a half from the time that they announce -- price hike but that effort to we haven't seen any new stuff other than AMC's. Was it -- was -- Or not only the only had been the only know that I've heard that they've changed is that they are on Android phones now and then there and South America and also they got what was it. It was the sugars -- thinking -- of breaking breaking breaking bad. I had to take and take my Droid moving to Columbia could. That'll tell you can use Netflix stood to coffee and cocaine and its its its -- of their. Also on the and in more money news with big companies. You always have shareholders that are invested in you and their wallets with what these companies do. HP. And top executives its felt by a specific shareholder that they misled. Shareholders for months before unveiling their decisions to cut the touch -- line -- which -- their shares this is a shareholder that. Alleges in their proposed class action lawsuit that was filed this week against. HP well there are always class action lawsuits when a big company has a big stop drop. So this is not surprising although the allegations in this one are pretty bad which is that. HP knew full well that it was gonna kill these lines and move their business. And sell off the that PC business. Etc. and they didn't tell any body of course have the the stock would drop as soon as they had told the latest delayed the inevitable and of course that have big implications people -- -- the stock. Com. What's interesting to me is what the direction HP is going it seems that. All there really really big tech companies. IB MI Xerox HP are all moving in the same direction which is getting out of actually making stuff and moving to being this global services companies. And I guess that's the natural evolution -- you know as -- start before because supernova that they'll become these these. Giant these gas giant you don't enterprise IT companies and their totally Loring. Yeah I mean that they are fun for now they can make they can make much higher margins the they can make money it's it's it's it's a business is hard to break into -- host protect the -- But it really boring in the meat and getting out of the consumer business why you get there is you know you throw -- lot of tax rates crap -- I stretch them -- to carmody. -- The lawsuit seeks to recover unspecified damages. -- of anyone who bought stock in -- between November. 222 2010 and August of this year. Yeah well what is what are you what is Cheryl I mean. Is it are they going to ever wanna come and decides to kill divisions although they know every company knows before -- -- Accident vision what what is the actual time line that you're supposed to give a shareholder. That's the question I mean you have -- you can't tell them the moment you make the decision. Use and so I'm sure when you make calculations -- -- we -- killed -- -- exploit the widget division. It's like our that's gonna cost us arguing dollars in and write offs of stock option payouts -- stuff and about 200 million dollars lawsuits are will make that and it just part of the equation we're gonna get sued. This is how much -- budget for the lawsuit in the settlement -- as part of the story. So HP shareholders not happy as obviously in the other story that's been hitting at least mainstream media. The FBI is investigating the recent. -- the recent flurry of -- On celebrity cellphones and accounts the FBI and office in Los Angeles is investigating some of these over the past year to there's been about. Fifty or so high profile celebrities being hit the most recent one. Scarlett Johansson are not here to talk about the gossip news but that's the feds are being a bald and and what's more -- -- is a while ago a hacker ring. Had published a video. Saying that they were going to target these -- -- -- they did link themselves to anonymous although. It's unclear if it's really an individual who use that mean to advertisers or not. But He put up a message -- attention Hollywood we've been watching you were coming after you in his and -- words. And for the most part they've that kind of -- and been good on that promise to try to -- in these accounts. And it's crazy it it is crazy and it's a little weird to post. You know really attractive pictures -- really attractive people being naked. And it's like okay now. Hacking into somebody's phone or their data stream or -- and and and taking personal. Anything and posting up on the net is horrible. And it's a it's a violation of privacy -- all that stuff. And -- You know you gotta wonder if if you're an actor in and these beautiful pictures of you surface and -- -- -- how much that does that in itself. Really hurt in the privacy thing that was then. Yeah I mean it may not it may not hurt the publicity -- -- heavily nurture ego because these are for different people yet for specific people on the you know they talk about. How -- they actually -- these people's accounts. And it's really because there's so much information out on these people. And it's actually happen to me where someone pretty much figured out my email address and there -- certain services. That have really crappy forgot my password -- yes they have a set question. That is as simply -- you -- -- choose from but with so much public information or information out there about some of us if they're like what's your mother's maiden name. -- might be able to be about what's -- as simple as what's your pet dog name right. That happened to piece of reason once someone finds out and they just use at passer -- and that email on different services. And they can get -- -- -- your job. It's funny I got a fraud alert on my credit card and I was out with my kid like and I got this text purchasing for alert and I called -- -- -- -- was about. They say okay what's -- maiden name mother's maiden name writes that my mother's maiden name because you know after overthrow the students that no that's items like what do you mean that's not it that's my my you know maybe have another passwords like. That's right I remember. So works -- mother's maiden name I put in another password politics to -- yet so when that when that when -- system -- for your mother's maiden name. Tell it like the street you grew up on or something like that because otherwise you know -- that that information -- is totally find Apple. Yeah my my it a couple my counts how over the past two years have been hacked by a specific person that's terminally. Mess with me it's pretty it's pretty crazy amounts -- -- that and buttons and again there but it's it's scary it's freaking they were they got into my -- -- changing stuff. And that's the only reason I found that I looked like only what's this and it was like messages directed specifically direct that -- -- I mean it's creepy it's it's it's wrong. I take -- every bad thing is that -- act now that I know -- -- in the middle of theft and sound and I'm beginning pulled a Begin to internalize it and it sounds terrifying. Anyways and FBI that the feds are involved in investigating this but. If it's will find out how close they get to the source because a while ago. There you know it could be anyone from a sixteen year old teenagers plunking around their trying to attract those and and there's no financial gain to be made out of these. Companies are buying this bribery -- -- in embarrassment there are guys enough about the celebs and hacking we're gonna take a little break when we come back Google. Taking on flip board possibly. Maybe also the iPhone five yet. You know there's gonna be more stories about that. As well as how -- then ago we could dig deep into -- subconscious. John Denmark stood for what would you hope to -- -- us. -- -- -- Then dealt with ID tag. I wonder if He actually was able to go to the meet up where Molly was in Denmark and as I saw her shoes. We need -- to post a picture of her shoes she gives them talking and -- Well that's clearly someone's been spending a lot of time on two -- watch on every post in every feed on stalking her in New York are at its. -- in the news according to all things -- you know Robert Scoble. Did your idea I guess -- could say all Robert -- not -- -- it it although He does is not worth that the source originally I was a car drivers is -- school the Scoble. He posts on his social feed that Google plus or the Google. Google the big G. Is were -- internally on a competitor to flip board for the social magazine space. -- and that that is currently only on the iPad but their product. Would potentially be on Android and the at everybody's doing these products -- news readers they work on tablets and they read in web sites or RSS feeds. And they're beautiful there's look forward bears live so I -- site which got bought by CNN's late in -- -- -- -- area. Mum. I don't know much of these things and an -- than -- RSS readers like reader arguably the art which is great. And I mean it makes sense that Google would do this -- Google is really doubling down on. Making content more readable increasing and improving the reader is zero idea. So this make sense. It but -- It it's not -- for I -- -- board raise like twenty million dollars to do an app. It doesn't take twenty million dollars to demand could sign I don't know what they're up to. I have the same output port is I use it and I've used -- a couple times but and I was like okay I get it and ready to come back here but I guess I'm not people are using it. That there David successful of the continue to get revenue to to pump into it our investors to -- -- -- is on it is. Investor driven despite the reason I -- -- port is because I when I in the morning when I pull my New York Times app on the -- iPad crashes. That I pull up that our own CBS app crashes -- ABC app crashes like screw this that I -- to support it doesn't crash that's what he's flip. -- yet the Google project I forgot to tell you that it's going to be called or at least internally right now it's been referred to as propeller. It'll be one of their you know they. Google earlier -- wanted to go being on social group at the -- attach bonuses and their employees internally. For the people to get you know for their social metric or whatever internal metric they have. They tied their bonuses to them so they have Google -- -- going with this propeller products. Really yeah out the exit they -- -- in their growth with social tender -- employee bonuses that they really do not do not tell people hear about that our bosses. -- -- you and I might be kind of borderline okay. Flight attendant notices are a bonus -- number of followers there engagement to some models correspondingly -- -- -- don't have that I know I don't want. Nathan in our social media -- if you're listening cover your ears. Also on Google you wanna talk about this -- they found -- pretty priestly about yet so its full pages so. When you search for something on Google and you click -- a -- -- a story that you like you -- on and then it's like you get like three paragraphs and if the next page and then. -- -- and -- those pages specifically are structured like that for page views they are structured to make the publisher of those pages money however. They are antithetical to the Google concept of speed and user friendliness so many sites have a single page view. Where maybe it's obvious maybe it's not maybe it's their maybe it -- but when it is there. Look Google is thinking about doing here. Is when you click on a story instead of going to the kind of economical Storey front page which -- have like five or six pages after it will -- aimed at. -- Single page version of it or the print preview version of which are generally all one page and give you that. -- you you don't have to see all these other pages and click through and and waste your time. Now this is. Actually not a bad thing for readers because the -- -- great yes but He is not necessarily the best of things for the publishers are going to lose out. Potentially on advertising clicks and page views and even metrics -- -- tracking pages per visit or something like that. So this is this is an interesting move it is far from being anti user. But its gonna raise a lot of questions the publishing community. The other thing is I mean I've seen plenty of photo galleries ours included that are clearly. Geared towards its -- its cash. Is like a IT is yet to be personally little -- Hussein. -- told to stop and to speed and keep it real -- sometime in the editorial writer Eric. But -- yes so He is and that's one and one of the tools that they're looking to -- Implement -- -- for what I like the idea. -- -- Yeah I like -- when -- -- site and there's like you go down to where the next page button is that says -- see everything you read whole story yet. There are and there are wired actually does have given credit for this they have these try enormous slide show stories. And then you'll see this but -- -- -- all on one page just like thank you. And that's a screen. And yes you'll find it a little bit it's got the most obvious are -- its area at least it's there are right also we told you can avoid the iPhone five news yesterday case may. Allegedly may have accidentally posted. On an image of some of their iPhone. Five cases. But then everyone went a little crazy because not only did they put them up they immediately took them down we don't know it was a PR policy -- but in the pictures. It revealed that you know people are looking hard look at this really hard. That the iPhone five will. Potentially in the -- in fact have a metal backing that looks a little more Basil. IPad to fish. But people are going crazy about its biggest story yesterday seriously -- over because of -- where the the end on the back of the iPhone case is. This is critical to how we live our lives. It's we need to know is at a time staff and I tell you this. Still you'll get you'll pay for down the road you'll yet pulled up the retail shelves -- you'll get access to them so. But it's it literally set the right now people want to know with a single click so bad. You could put up a story that says -- on five discs at a talks. It's crazy. Anyways -- it was -- it was the hottest story yesterday. Can can escape it also. If you hold it wrong and -- -- electric charge that He put going to design -- the new design but that's what the cases -- for cause when you hold it wrong -- actually -- -- -- this -- this special capacitor in there it is and drop. We'll see if that will see if that holds true rate knows -- real secret internal design of this new also cheapen it in the Smartphone world. We all complain about battery life these four GL TE phones even the iPhone four just sucked the battery life out. Of our little devices that we love but. According. To science daily which reported on this -- new technology dubbed it it's called. -- -- And what it is. Who sings. And nearly a minute and minute mailing you know that's honor just for you to know that's -- to some Vanilla technology okay. Anyways I developed by university Michigan professor tension and a doctoral student. G news saying this email we. Process or technology would allow the phone to go into a subconscious mode so what -- -- what happens here is during this time. -- devices wireless radio operates at a 116. Of its normal -- -- speed and only will go back to full capacity when it's receiving data this could. According to their research and studies. Can improve battery life by as much as 54%. Total energy consumption. Is around and the -- means around 44% -- platforms the firmware does have to be installed. Who on the actually know the antennas in the process this is one of the. Things that kind of makes perfect sense I mean it's -- the idea is that when you're just getting badges and updates and stuff like -- or even you know a trickle. Of emailed you don't need to have the radio on -- full Alaska makes perfect sense -- are surprised they don't already do it. But you know. Great I want transcendental mode where the phone -- liking in in medic is meditating at at and becoming one with the government you deal Leoville -- Now what should you feel they need it I B two bliss that is the show that. You also -- in this article about Intel's new processor and -- doing similar things yes so Intel talked about this thing and IDF called that this Claremont. Process. Or the next step program. It's called near threshold voltage processor which means that that this -- -- Under -- itself down to. -- the barely enough power to keep the transistor State's going. So it's slow. Because I don't know why heavy physics of work compared to when it's running a full orbit -- the same idea it's like. You -- just trickle enough power into this thing to keep it alive until -- needs to do something you know high power and then you know up the up the voltage lot of tampered whatever. And you can run a full speed. And again they're saying here that this is so low power that is CPU could stay alive and working -- just barely. With like a solar cell the size of postage -- -- -- electricity and history -- even that galvanic reaction from your scheme would keep this thing off. So you know a lot. But that's also one of the things right the next -- in technologies like -- was trying to squeeze the most of the battery so we've gotta train game back and figure out. How to squeeze -- -- and they -- just say we gotta put generators in the bottom of our sneakers. -- taught us something and we can do now my kids' -- light up when it walks and now that -- these are good you see in those than making -- she's from Mac feature to data released with -- ladies and I'm -- like 9000 dollars a -- ran out but this the sad thing about is -- the battery in LEDs can't be replaced. So the issues light up when they -- somewhere for -- around like I think it was around 300 dollars tops but after that she's the light up anymore. First of all you should have replaced the batteries yet instead you -- get the energy from the vibration of the -- itself. That's what you get the 9000 dollars she may need to meet the 25000 dollar additional the work on the they -- -- to -- configured a slew -- still waiting for the self time places also. Right on -- right -- we have since rate as a special guest. We decided its -- give him the honor. Of -- and rates -- -- a special story. I covers. Some of the most in depth -- that's going on the -- -- Rafe could you please introduce the story. -- -- set up opera possibly live up to that now this is just some photos as. For been bouncing around and read it for the last day -- two. Which is this mean this took -- the mean that's I have absolutely hilarious yet it's that this tax is like the attack is there real no -- -- no. Looked a little -- it because at least people listening to your list. Since our viewers can see it. Its its get. You probably thought this Heros alive. And this Kyle was alive and this doesn't -- -- Gnome. Or not they're in habitats analyzed like chat as well -- Alley -- -- term. -- specialize in almost like like dead animals anywhere. Period. We can't slow drivers who have no. I'll just just the for the more -- and here animals around period. -- that trying to adjust to redirect -- Now. Thank you know exist that does not tax -- -- You can't get your -- -- sorry everybody. Anyway like did you get your own pets and is there along with. But you're like -- departed mother has something -- now she's not a pet she's my mom a threat difference there's a difference. I write it -- a -- think you for that really amazing contribution to show -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- It's. He's saying sorry. Narrative that -- guys Sony is updated their PS and that their PlayStation network user agreement. To block class action lawsuit sold one of the terms of the changes. Of the update if you agree to it which if you wanna use the PS an -- you pretty much have to agree with them and how many people actually read through all those terms and conditions. It says in the place of the rate for appears in user to file class action lawsuit now section fifteen says. -- believes a binding individual arbitration as the only option to solve disputes. So for example -- -- everyone was mad about. If someone wanted to file a class action lawsuit with his new changed you have to go deal with them individually the subtle and yeah that's that's gonna happen it's. Its -- -- and I questioned the legality of the house have to say by the way if those you're watching a video that add to the right looks like it'll start reports that that's disgusting. Anyway. It's like they do have Vista. Half pay as you pass healthy Ethel are furthers the listening -- light everybody Internet. All right so but they do have this thing at the answering if you do not wish to be down by this clause. -- class action -- you must notify Sony in writing within thirty days that you accept the agreement. But without the class action policy can actually opt out of this if a you happen actually read this agreement which nobody does and that violated a report print coupons very topic on the license -- -- -- to be you send them. On this archaic medium -- Paper -- thing called a letter. And they will opting out of the of the -- so if there is some huge problem with Sony network. You can actually file a class action suit with all your other and penalty -- to take you -- -- take the effort. A little -- -- use this. Technology called Paper I hate this whole first of -- snail mail Smith is -- Com you'll was Nicholas weird stuff in there and to opt out of to us to say. And many agreements contracts have an arbitration clause in them -- So this is not an uncommon thing to do but does kind of say we expect to screw everybody overall once and we're gonna save it were not called everybody -- at the saint. That that's -- an underlying message -- that no one reads and notes right until its product. Also on -- quake hits Mark Zuckerberg with the added the subscribe and converted his. Five million plus space but fans into subscribers. That's bug was for him that feature nowadays for -- It's rolling out now so this new thing or FaceBook -- letting. Eventually gets all public pages are -- and what it was rolled out immediately I I was able to turn on the subscription. -- button right -- I haven't seen -- -- -- actual profile than the Coca-Cola basically here click on -- Republican left and on action. See this is second infantry today I eat what I did I've -- raised a lot today actually I get to school -- -- -- -- this is amazing -- never be possible we were in our Pratt and then I was. Clicking through files he's like what player using that -- -- Mike when -- mile player. And a Mac OS-X they have this quick look feature that's been out for like. Ninety years -- so we just have the space bar and it instantly previews and plays whether it's a movie file of music -- I'll put -- bond -- like. -- because I've been trying to all the oil wells I have I've been double clicking on that and open plug and play earns as little crap -- The so much better and in life easy for -- thank you you welcome. I feel really cool Facebook's artists forget it also owns Google plus gets a little more sign -- it's friendly we know about -- hang out feature and went. Someone talks that they show up in the forefront right there is that their video screen pops up everyone else listens. The for the deaf communities in -- which they've just implemented a system where. He -- the shift key on your keyboard so that your screen will pop up. I think this is is a little story but it's so it's wonderful it's it's -- -- it's good on you Google. For realizing that people are actually use video conferencing because they can actually hear so let's make it. So their video pops up just like -- -- speaking people as awesome story Google. And yes. -- -- -- -- -- -- this is pretty crazy this is so -- this is perfectly timed for a special -- that's happening today. NASA spots a Star Wars like planet or redeemed. Two stars. Within -- and -- in Williamson. They announced that a new planet called Kepler sixteen B that orbits two -- to discover that seemed to bring life. To the fictional Luke Skywalker home attached to means. With its double sunsets. The system spotted by NASA as one star orbiting another planet Kepler sixty -- circling both stars. It's real. Well they held on to this information. And just for the stunt coordinator. Nearly -- up at -- now. We'll get into that and a second but I just a little science degree here He -- noted -- actually okay you do that you wanted to I know -- thought -- -- -- so. This is the first it's planet orbiting a binary star is critical although they do say it's probably -- cold gas giant not a hot desert -- like that to me. Okay -- anyway. This is -- have -- of course now the thing about. Observing stars -- planets around stars as we actually can't observe the planet itself because you know at hundreds of millions of -- hundred light years away. All you can see through a telescope any telescope is justice are and the planet will -- is obscured by what they're measuring. Is actually. The inclusion or the eclipse of the storm and plan -- front -- -- -- -- drop in light or very small wobble in the star which could only be caused by another. Massive body like a planet it wasn't until. Actually -- looked this up until 1988. That we'd actually confirm that there were planets around other stars before then and open theoretical -- disproved studies. So when I was watching Star Trek in the sixties with a mold. As a kid and they shall showed all these other planets orbiting stars. Apple's all at that point still theoretical forget life on other planets. Other planets we didn't know if they existed and now we we know like. That's 600 plants again not from direct observation of the planet itself but from the wobble stars and -- religion yet I just little science fact with -- -- -- -- -- -- Just in case you guys didn't -- Let's get stuff but I -- we're time of celebration of style hours Blu-ray might come to my desk after the show it should be. On my desk you tell me about. It's just the generational gap in with the whole Star Wars franchise so our. I think that seemed Star Wars. Episodes 45 and sickness is -- clear. -- my house old episodes 12 and three do not exist. At that seeing Star Wars is part of it's like reading you know -- ups fairy tales it's part of the cultural. Background consciousness you need to -- whats -- got a five year old son I think he's about ready for Star -- so I went and I bought the dvd collection. Of 45 and six. You can do that -- Dvds what are those yet monopoly risks I don't have Blu-ray player itself but and whatever. And -- like okay. I wanna show this my kid he's five he's -- to Star Wars birthday parties he's the in the light sabers all the stuff. But he's never actually seen the movies and -- if you his friends have either because it's little he's a little young for. So I'm telling him like a parent to sit down over -- -- -- is like no data. -- -- -- -- No data there's too much shooting in it. Police at least one -- child at least one of you has their moral -- And we're disappointed that movie involves. The -- been of arms and limbs answer yes the light Saber guess -- the -- -- -- -- but experts at at that that's. -- player -- Peterson and telling them. -- as much as I am your father you know lots of our audience and -- Alright guys. It's time to nearly you guys have to say we know -- we -- here is the feedback loop. Okay so we got we got an awesome awesome video voice mail from. George the kidney dock and it is start rumors are related scene continuing on our Star Wars you forgot to introduce your segment okay hang out and about it -- -- the street aren't. Stevens video pic of the week. It. Yet every week we give him his own time mission -- I have my own thing they occupation -- like a supernova Doerr about that. Okay so anyway this comes from kids. George the -- dock in -- Star Wars related -- is the then at the beginning crawl but it is below a related to check out our unit now for our listeners its tax yeah have to try to read -- as it goes which is difficult. During his cross area. It's okay. Okay. -- -- -- -- -- Along brainwashed. We continue where we left out -- -- where. Our heroes Bryan -- -- in -- that could -- discuss the latest tech news about patent wars social networks. The singularity and of course the death star monopoly eight K eight AT&T. And as the date of two the bleary release of the Star Wars trilogy -- ever closer -- TX exudes giddiness. -- -- -- -- -- -- Anyway indeed will be T in the hood ever captured the enthusiasm of their beloved listeners if they transition to a weekly show. Only time will tell but in the words of data. -- News. Of this show George that you need. -- storage zones off the article -- -- I was critical -- I wonder George com I'm. We have a kidney issue in one of my family members global are just saying if there's a good conduct on here from okay there you go. -- the little segment Steve and thank you think also we have a voicemail someone's a little. It's been -- -- what's been going out -- show this week. And bring -- guy I -- Wired or are we being broad -- out. Aren't there -- -- -- and Molly who put up with it. -- at least somebody. What -- the key -- audio. Who are willing to well shall we one and while all the broke out loud I hear. Surely. See all -- weekly format. Act. Has been -- you still listen ninety burning Chrome. And that is voluntary and it doesn't matter what it really doesn't. All right -- the ability for burning Chrome just. Beats me up. Here this one comes to us from victor victor writes in my at fourteen and eleven year old kids their friends and Michael orders kids all have I touches. Like most parents -- have no interest in do you make its phones limited data plans when they can watch YouTube stream music watch Netflix player and the most said receive larger picture music is senator Bob Bob. They have cheap messaging phones and a moderately rugged compared to the big screen iPhone or Android phones with the data turned off. -- in a Wi-Fi area they have Smartphone like capabilities. If they break -- -- -- -- and still call them. If we go out of the country my -- is from India I don't have to worry about than actually using data right now my daughters know -- So guess what phone they want when I allow them to upgrade to a smart phone. -- card now. Blackberry none of. Nokia -- definitely a -- it -- in 8800. Are you next He knows dealers oh yeah okay so next email. Some drifted in RM scroll down want to partner Griffin says my girlfriend manages a business and Washington DC and she noticed that Yelp. What's filtering a lot of -- five star reviews. She called -- -- to find out why these reviews are being filtered and Yelp tried to celebrate 2000 dollar business membership of some sort. Which would -- -- control over however use are filtered is it just me or does this screen protection racket thought you'd be interested. As an aside salespeople for the new deal service are apparently super pushy and rude culture. Now this is uninteresting. Email we get these if we get emails from people. Pretty frequently saying and Netflix -- over they're blocking my good reviews and getting flooded with bad reviews and -- by the way they're also trying to sell me stuff and I say no. And things just get worse and I got one. Really heart wrenching email from a guy. Whose business essentially went under because of bad one -- -- bad reviews. Now interestingly enough last -- actually this week I was at the techcrunch disrupt conference and Jeremy. -- for his first and stop woman into the -- the CEO of Yelp. Was on stage being interviewed in this question came companies like -- He denied he's like occasionally. You know we -- were big and people have bad reviews and of course we have this huge filtering system to make sure that. Reviews that are -- That are like -- reviews get taken down all the stuff and of course there's no connection between sales. And the editorial quality because if there was then nobody would trust their reviews and they do so we have to maintain this church and -- -- And that's what He says. And that is I believe what He believes but this kinda thing we keep seeing -- he's gonna thinks it's all anecdotal infected the lawsuits about this thing and I don't. Think that it's ever been mum. They Yelp is actually ever been. Clinton -- that conviction on this type of thing has ever been maintained but this keeps coming at the elks got a real problem in. The believability about that they're being seen as -- And I'm not sure that they are just aggressive salespeople and actually you know a blackmailing people bad reviews are two very different things. I don't know where the line as with the openness are really big problem and I'm really sorry for people have this happen to me because you -- -- can't control. So we'll see keep -- posted anything else. Comes out of that because if it is it does sound like if indeed it might be effect edited that is at least happening in certain situations maybe it's regional who knows. Right yeah I don't know I don't know any -- that I I wish we could get to the bottom of this is just too much that we don't have insight into. This next email comes system -- and -- as big news for your. The last daily show it's not our last one yet but on Friday Friday September the 23 at 10 -- Pacific DISH Network. It's only a press conference to announce their blockbuster streaming service. -- just let the retail partners know I'm that it and that chat does retail chat that they had took place today He just wanted to post -- some information and a link. Just to give us the heads up so the very cool there we. Did have a story about how they were acquiring the -- positioning service or blockbuster was gonna go on the platform but now we know to be September 23 -- in my Netflix. -- up now on but I'm just giving you did not hear it here in -- and -- -- jewelry to slot signature. Okay this comes to US for. Joshua and Stanley and -- He was just science. Just sigh yeah sorry. He was the guy who was beat boxing yesterday -- guessing what my name was yesterday was hilarious. Of all the names that start -- He had to guess Jared I have a younger less handsome brother named Jared. But no that is not my name me thinks a little mister Thomas came out while guessing that that's -- charger thinks person mission I think. And this is while of the show so thanks to -- awesome -- box a player -- -- bucks insurance UI will now offer. For ever hopefully remember it was desire. But the fact that -- is his brother yeah that's that's pretty I didn't got to -- mr. 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