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Car Tech Live 249: BMW sews up touch sensitive fabricBMW says touch me, Ford takes mirrors high tech for quiet, the Chevy Volt is off the hook with the Feds, and how much would you pay for Obama's Chrysler 300?
BMW says touch screen just be careful where. Ford takes mirrors to a high tech direction to get quiet. And the Chevy Volt is off the hook but that's depending the US. Welcome to car tech -- body. Brian Cooley with -- Wayne Cunningham Antuan Goodwin Mitchell Chang at the controls. Gang's all here first time in 2012 is that right. There we -- -- -- -- it -- yeah. A way to do one at the very top of the reviews. Dietrich region -- the parent. And by the way we do -- them out there we are gonna microphone for wine and you can hear me -- -- -- our our our first story today our first feature is now where and the point is sporting a very interesting gray -- planned -- Starting a trend very nice is that the not to. -- not -- on -- ready to digitize it yeah that's for and I selected assuming that technique it. I learned to tie a -- and New Year's Eve. All of the reasons I figured since dynamited humanist are you gonna you can use it up and us so much I in -- -- all the girls in the editorial when designing sites we should all start wearing ties on Thursdays are now that it's -- thing there state its opinion and conduct a I like you're not -- -- like you know them up manually when that -- Very good and of I was like about the Blackberry type meeting where -- later on in the night you can get and how -- sort of cool in the sassy yet. There was also an -- common to. The death. -- that's death yet they are right is all coming together now let's move on -- real first story which is that the volt is apparently off the hook on fire risk of the national highway transportation safety administration the folks who originally investigated the volt. For blowing up just a few times always after crash impact tests but nonetheless. They concluded there an investigation and say. GM's gonna do to fix what we've learned. It's -- there's no greater risk quote of fire than in gasoline powered vehicles which a lot of folks pointed out even before this. Resolution -- but there's another angle to this in terms of some doubters right. You have the -- the that house subcommittee on something -- other that is called that that some. As a Republican in that house says subcommittee of house oversight and Government Reform Committee is what it -- And they actually called up -- admits that and the head of DM and gotten to testify and said. Well tell us more about -- -- thing we don't really believe you necessarily because of the fact that. Unity government had some investment in GM and so they're saying -- being itself but the results because of that conflict of interest. Services is part of that whole that theory that the White -- do whatever akin to avoid any future embarrassment after was it -- a Solyndra. -- the investment that solar company at 500 million whatever that went bankrupt Bay Area company. And not to have any more egg on its face with its investments but as -- call the GM bailout -- -- -- -- paid back. This is a political show but I thought they pay back their bailout money or. I and that's -- -- -- that has been taking care as -- -- so it's no longer government motors India much alike the say I just think. You know in this house committee is trying to raise some you know they do this kind of thing all the time they waste their money and duties and -- up for. -- politics here where there. He had Darrell Issa a California Republican California on Cuba according to sort of accused DM and it says of colluding to hide the -- -- investigation for six months that's the that's kind of serious stuff colluding is never a good -- -- -- in polite company. Let's say it is you're sneaky. But it's I don't know the whole issue I believe that backs an investigation and seemed like a non -- and the fact that -- -- is actually burst and. Fire on the road alone on -- in the members of the windows did the patent awards are hopeful urged -- kept on making those after awhile out of people's -- -- -- Yes that ending is little political grandstanding now so -- anyway folks separate the politics from the technology. And it says got a report saying that the volt is not. Unduly risky any more than -- gasoline car and given the numbers of -- on the road into a public hazard. But the investigation was done. Okay so if you really wanna get low emissions not going to be driving around a range extender. And in -- driving around in electric car that's gotta get some coal fired -- made somewhere which are gonna drive around them liquid air. And now it George jets and AK Wayne Cunningham. Explain it yet this is that just little story and cover and covered this is a -- British company has this new engine that they are working on. It's in development -- started some testing with an independent tester -- test the feasibility of it. But the principles in this account. What they've got is they're taking liquid air which is cryogenic -- pros are pros and air is in the semis driving around delivery yet evident big tanks that are BMX offers integrated tanks -- and dad. The idea behind this it is you. You have that you have a tank of this -- this liquid air in your car. You run it into the cylinder Yasser and in another -- -- that they call -- heat exchange fluid and this causes the liquid air to. Resume its -- distinct yet which is and what it wants to -- you since you know that's ambient temperature ultimately expand in the process exactly -- along with enough force to push the piston down. And there you get work. Okay and then that powers that with what emissions nothing right yeah because -- air -- air turns in the it's -- normal state near the exhaust -- just -- compared to coming -- sit there and -- it. And doesn't like -- -- their engines. That we saw sort of floating Ehrlich a compressed air hybrid. Engine that can sometimes use I would just like when you when you break -- in the compressed air and tank and then now when you need that extra push UPS trick users I think are drawn trolley system via an -- I've seen one that that use compressed air where. They'd be basically when you need to go they do the same thing except the distant bodies from being compressed instead of expanding from being hyper cool. And that's similar but as a tip of the deer and an engine company is the company working on this engine this British company. They say that they actually get more energy density out of -- the liquid air. And they also was point out that you don't need any compression than the -- -- stored at standard that it doesn't need to be pressurized to. Does -- be cool that it does need to be called the -- that this is where. Where does require energy is that there is an infrastructure doing this already -- -- -- -- is used in a lot of industrial applications. So this air. -- it takes work to be cool but at a I don't know how much energy that takes so that -- -- liquid air itself becomes more about. You know energy or lack of energy is put into it -- at some point and then it releases -- -- engine. Department of physics University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign by the -- the -- university where mark entries -- invented the browser. Question and some answer page they have as it economically feasible to use liquefied air -- a potential source of energy to got a piston engine. Answer. From I guess from Mike W over he has -- the university most importantly under all circumstances the work required to liquefy the air will always be more than the work obtained from the Internet to direct inescapable consequence of the laws of thermodynamics. But I don't know of work translates to energy -- -- somewhat different. To the question of whether such and you'll be economical depends on the efficiencies of the -- -- fire. And of the engine as well as the cost of maintaining that -- insulated liquid. Yet do that in their comments point out that pretty much every. There's always inefficiencies there's no perfect energy source for -- -- energy to -- fuel. Yeah I guess engines only get about 30%. Or less of the energy out of the tank gas yet most -- -- -- burned off in heat in the I'll always lost so the question is. What are what are you need the least losses. Well the dividend of -- thing going for it looks so simple -- A simple that is -- -- there's almost mean that's it. But this is another thing they point out -- -- knows you don't have the exotic materials you -- -- batteries and motors you know in this is just simple. Metal and there's nothing burning in here either -- there is no spark plug in mind answering carbon neat and burned out over it's over time through thermal our lossless and -- engine folks if you well. -- thoughts -- elements now. BMW. Getting envoy involved in a technology coming out of a Polytechnic university in Montreal for touch screen fabric. Now the idea here is a fabric has been invented at this -- -- university. Where these strands respond to believe capacitance -- capacitance -- the capacity of touch screen are also pressure. Allowing fabric to become -- with zones where you can touch things to make things happen. And BMW says they're gonna use it not win but they're definitely gonna use it in their cars there saying which is -- pretty good endorsement. -- just thinking about that and -- ninety that was gonna be your first -- question is why it was early next perfectly good volume on near their BO officers I'm thinking let's say you've got a power seat with like ninety buttons on an as they often neutered. And you've got to go down -- you should translate to reach for those buttons for OK and that one is actually forward now that's Lamar wait no that's that's that's I support forward not seat forward. What if that's just a matter run your hand on the bolstering this move for. Run your hand on the bolster backwards -- -- -- goes back with the data automatically unit to worry about any of -- you're talking about those little apps that carrier Prague. Let me -- finally get it you own a car. How often do you which seek to really are at least like to positioned to get in position and to get -- -- for each person let's talk about volume controls. I hate your rants from Internet write a honest I'm avoiding controls so what you'll -- ninety got a nice enough -- like a nice positive not -- have put the whatever -- got. What if there was just -- zone on the dash. Or when you're in radio mode the dash. Is a controller for -- volume just put your hand anywhere near it -- white. I'm totally -- that's -- excitement out of -- contacts -- it yet but it's not because it was done on a little piece of placid it's too narrow and hard to navigate what if you just put your hand on the whole kind of eyebrow of the dash and Disco like that the blame goes. Go down -- his depth same thing for temperature when your in the climate mode. Just move your hand across something it allows you to turn. A lot of dead real estate in to control surface to an exit to you know it takes -- weightless space -- now a -- you -- -- -- -- -- -- I see potential here to give designers more ability to do things in the car citizens of it sounds really cool I just can't see a really practical applicant can -- -- -- -- to -- -- -- -- dead -- and fabric. I mean well -- me as there -- serial whatever is below is its -- use -- -- use this instead. And there you go you've got zones on the dash that are intuitive technologies anymore into the same way that the of the tablet differs from the PC that there's no translation. Of the human machine to the physical wishing you this gets us to a place of what you do when -- two years old. You reach out and touch things and do what kind of comes to you almost you -- subliminally. And to make something happen. You know makes the best seat controls. For cities bands they put. The little the little mini seat because it yet -- its shape like the seat they put it on the door where you can actually reach that right considered it. And see what the what what part of the scene in my reaching -- -- -- -- region kind of veneer but a little bit to be like oh it's down there doesn't look prettier but what if that were made of fabric. I -- -- -- shut down BMW's latest idea. Maybe it'll be cool -- that -- elected not numerous don't humorous if they don't they surprises. And do something awesome that we didn't think -- I mean they're the reason I'm not in and in human machine interface design is. As you don't like you got electric cars without it well now what if you use the add the fabric on your bow tie and it could tie itself okay. Or better yet. Right side his track up and down -- point. I'm off that now we got -- out of every WW boat tied division is on the -- by the Thomas likes everything that I don't talk about mirrors now -- don't talk about goofy tech does is that goofy is just a small thing. So -- have been working on mirrors that these are outside mirrors that are noisy is that right. Some -- the external -- Ford engineers have ways to and improved cabin silence. To reduce wind noise by apparently there's something else you can still do with a mirror that they haven't thought of already. To quiet down the of the road noise of the wind rushing over it. An -- it's got something to do what what they've learned from satellite dish design. And for the life of me I can't figure it out. -- -- -- mirrors are the new Wii is part of the car as far as wind resistance goes -- this is something that Nissan found that the leaf design. And they put these little ridges up on the hood that would actually cause the air flow around. The is what's called in. An acoustic mere it to. There's a sideline during a phone sensitive microphone via that can actually sort of like -- look at heat map of like where the hot spot the -- -- kind of like hell when you run a a -- through wind tunnel. And you can kind of Blake used thermal imaging to see where. Where the the the -- kind of going over the vehicle to make it more aerodynamic with sound and they can use this acoustic near a microphone and. All I get networks and now here on the on the hearts -- they use for design breaks and using it to design a better overall body we -- -- -- -- Bright object now we just said the the cameras -- -- in every concept car then you would need as big -- and it would because it's. Get the -- off get those stupid roof -- -- no one uses outlook when his car doesn't have that. And the side view cameras -- they have oh -- and get the I get the with a limit doing is fine and everything on a car makes notes. -- -- -- -- -- -- At the door handles mirrors those little kooky little what -- these little things they call visible slow engine -- outlets in front of the feature line right there and its inhabitants yeah. Pointless noisy every -- -- only a limited rate. Well good noise of people go to -- and editing it and I haven't ever put a lot of different heights on left right center at an Internet bloody two sides of the art explains -- why do I walker on the front I did ambiguities. Ago was elegantly -- -- car shoes does that mean you only see in the tuner scene. -- have different -- on the left the rate at this show off two different looks right out of allegedly wanna take that to the straight. One might as the -- the same size like you -- Korean -- -- one side and one in there it's kind of like the next thing you could start with the time. This is the connect to the vote effort -- -- -- of the time and everything. Martha -- -- that -- on a cheaper satellite radio is Sirius XM tuner is apparently got some buzz in this in the consumer electronics -- And they say that retailers are excited about this -- being CE outlook or via CE journals out there. Is that it is widely supported by aftermarket radio maker. Its brightness is the -- XM XS. XV 200. We actually saw the F six B 100 an Alpine stereo that I tested last year -- basically a tiny little box about the size -- deck of cards. And that's your satellite radio receiver that in order -- external antenna -- -- amount. -- where there's a view of the sky. -- the the as the new OSX via 200. It's basically ruling in sort of the satellite radio -- -- features that we're seeing on the net like. -- cashing radio stations. Things like. Being able to alert what's on other channels the other two so this we -- this -- this this is the the first version is of the 100 here right right okay and that and that didn't plug goes into like a CD changer -- something -- -- -- -- -- -- -- think it's a proprietary -- Of the differences it used to be different proprietary port for everybody. So you had to get like -- Sony had to buy Sony -- -- -- -- and receiver oh right if you had an Alpine yet by Alpine receiver. That the difference now with the all u.'s that -- connection and that -- receiver okay -- with the cost for -- -- love that -- a stock to -- stock one -- and is supposed to pay 200 bucks for a satellite radio receiver to it that only works with -- Sony receiver. You pay 79 dollars for one in that list pretty much in because they get some good scale and manufacturing and interest and okay so that's coming out of right -- if you are looking to add satellite radio tuned auto features. To -- I imagine relatively modern head unit is required for this. You know in the last yeah I mean here he system ones that mean that -- Alpine stereo that the last -- work written it neared their new generation. A work with the new and I don't know if it's backwards compatible -- -- 129 bucks -- -- the car stereo you can buy new clothes -- only very affordable units will work with this yet -- -- bundle with the receiver and satellite radio receiver was like 200 bucks. Okay so -- -- -- -- add ought to god -- features to your existing after market engines the school. Unless it's going -- -- -- probably talked about some time ago called dash it was they are connected navigation system first. -- didn't really get to market -- first on the market but the first it was gonna go to market. Now there's another brought it up called dash first -- -- don't be confused the whole different product and secondly. It is a it's just it's -- and it goes a direction we've talked about a lot which is why isn't my Smartphone. My interface in my car -- it's. Kind of basically. Fifty watt well commute we found what -- a four channel amp. That's really is heard that a connection in the -- with that I conduct during dock so many different docks for different from the government of phones right now all the doc works with the iPhone four and four -- but they're seeing that basically what happens is. A you have this sort of lofty terminal on the -- you just snap your phone to the Newton team over. And they're saying they're gonna meet. Adapters -- or face plates. And that work with different phones so you have a galaxy nexus and you'll be able to snap that in -- and -- nice clean and -- -- if you buy a new phone. You just buy a new -- late you can keep that -- -- -- all the everything that fits behind the -- -- -- -- saint it is basically just an. It's a Smart idea benefits over -- streaming Bluetooth as -- it's a bad idea wasn't a bad idea. Because they're gonna put an iPhone and in front of their -- attacks and FaceBook and Twitter and and on the iphone's very small. They do that if they built two and one and if there is that we need to build and locked for something like that not noting that -- they -- buildings on the that would be user disable bright -- -- after markets throughout the back you can disable almost anything that'll be in an airlock yet but I think there's something to be said for the idea that IA. Have one. Who manufactures and averages the OEMs and reduce I want I want the carmakers to do this they would never -- they are too much control over the interface of a car -- thing is that it costs 300 bucks but is it that much and it's basically just an amp. And if an -- connection -- a volume knob there it is there were looking -- but I'm like you could buy a fifty lap ware channel amp. And built this yourself for less than 200 dollars that he had any lowest you do that how we are you get a windshield clintons were talking about to do yourself windshield -- At 88100. Dollar in a two DP connector to the -- maybe it's I mean this is basically -- wire rack. An idea it's basically a wired headphone connection if you look at the way that it -- and it looks like. It's a melting story let's face it if it wasn't for the slick -- and -- ordinary villagers detained for at 300 boxes in the fact that somebody. If -- are indeed of the -- And -- it -- your device and really -- accidents slick and clean yet. But I mean it does it -- little overpriced for what it does this seems and I mean there's no radio and if you want to listen -- -- -- -- -- over the Internet on your device -- -- I mean me which is not really an issue. But as if you're on a data plan and you're limited and you just wanna listen to NPR I do you really wanna be taken a couple megabytes -- -- doing that. We we should talk about blogs at some point when we talk about that later and -- -- data calculations. There is a problem and museum there's problems we'll get to. As this is kind of in that same area visual streaming radio you better -- -- cap but it's it's an interesting concept I didn't and only reason I'm not super excited about it but here's an intimacy product in diagonally agony that I know it's like -- -- is really hard for me to get excited and everybody. It's gonna have like a hundred dollars immediately did everyone get it had just -- laying around the bed and asleep on abilities and because of not a pretty thing is like -- Jonathan Ive got to work -- it looks and also doubled in size excellence and yet you know and and it's just got a bad kind of glossy enamel look to -- to look like that with flickering during the get a little -- -- -- to take -- pre orders so they better -- -- -- -- -- -- like repeat it meant. Only to cut back that's that's one of life's great rules whatever it is you could always -- and -- just tell -- the -- The state doesn't it's if you always prepare him Apple had really -- a liner yeah right we out of water per durable tough and continually Wrangler bill's bad practice MCAS test well of our final moments of -- -- -- -- on the road here. Million dollar Chrysler 300 for sale on eBay starting to hit me look at all sorts -- expects it will go beyond that why. It was Barack Obama's when he was a senator in Illinois to -- lifted -- five having. The 300 CC. Line that's right top of the line doesn't asunder of its only option is missing -- found interest -- Sober rock rolled in this 300 for a few years just 40000 miles on it. And this is put -- a few days ago we have a blog on -- cars dot cnet.com and then it got -- -- when the seller decided she needed to answer would apparently was some blistering critiques. -- -- stranger watching our live version. Paragraphs and paragraphs of bull text of people in this -- an entire paragraph it makes it easier to read. Always does not it's it's it's kind of semi yelling right it's not in apps but it's getting there if it's doing its business -- -- this -- also please understand. Thus he says the million dollar he -- she says the million dollar starting price is not a joke oh -- it is. Citing the following the president of -- Peugeot fixed one and a half million pounds at auction because it belonged to a -- of a division up. A 75 escort owned by the -- -- persons have been a trip up -- The current post 99 VWs sold for 244. Grand that he didn't even drive it because he -- -- driver's license. -- let's -- billionaire -- Adolf Hitler's convertible Mercedes for eight million. Plus we saw someone play a 113 thousand for the Bart man baseball what's that got to do -- So it's it's -- it's the craziest -- is eBay listing I've ever seen. I don't like all Hitler Mercedes like who's that guy I know who bought again and then covered that and I am disheartened by the most -- man in his writing what what what is -- motivation. Slaughterhouse only got a hold of the -- on the first play right -- of -- of -- mistake in how did you find that she knows his courage it is look at the you know in the car packs or whatever it is -- perfect -- it could be Obama smog test passed -- edit it at 101007 why wait a minute that's my question where'd -- get it she doesn't explain that I don't think anywhere what I've read that's very odd. That's a store you want to tell. In the -- secondly. All the pictures are here she says she has the title which you have to have to prove this is -- at all but there's no -- of the title once you show us that that's very off. So there's something fishy here even though she says this auction is a serious auction please keep it -- sites well sorry to leave for that. The -- looks in good shape from the pictures -- I gotta say it's clean them into care you know -- -- -- the -- years ago would take care of his car he's buttoned up. We don't know bumper stickers on it -- it because -- There's even opera I figured you look at under the apparently an Obama like. There in the peninsula you have the regulatory -- Obama poster just to help make that million dollars go away. Anyway if you look at for Obama's. 300 it's up there it is hard cover its its rate to rip off -- in the clock and a well speaking of price to 300 that was why we want to touch on that story -- tech lessons and is. Is that I would all the road this week in the Chrysler 300 the new one the -- the second gen the Obama arrives at first in car. And waded into one tickets for right not listed any 300 but the twenties -- 300. SRT eight let's take a look. And I've read everything and nibbling at the goal -- Being American and and its candidates. Thirteen. Its. -- and -- alumina and -- -- and I think we know our leader. -- any time. Everything thing up in -- power train calendar yeah. Chartering its. It's pretty much again. Yeah yeah isn't totally old school power -- Born seventy pound recorder is pretty horsepower is the magic numbers -- and its push rod V8. Got a ton -- displacement and a five speed automatic transmission. And plumbing argument started that's something that. Used to be only in the past we can't do much anymore it's. If -- just stop -- and it'll burn out but you'll -- -- -- Yeah you want to make sure that Google and straight ahead and -- drying content may get ready until it's going -- Right it'll go a little bit sideways and it really is -- -- that. We also accountable on products that you're just standard. And I mean the navigation system and -- you know they -- wearable a lot of this switches and buttons and we -- have that big really nice big touch -- getting. -- -- It did recently you control everything from -- entertainment radio. Here -- connected devices. And three calling and -- a premium in a yard climbing controls are also built in here controls -- enabling meaningful. -- -- -- -- By the way provide my -- If you ever use the Garmin -- going all the way back to the -- 200 dollars or six years ago you'll be familiar with it. Yeah I -- they have here and there -- -- and it is really obvious thing here -- The integration is OK it's not operating. One nice thing is that you have turn by turn directions would only show up on the center's screen time management must. Yet we have a little good integration and there's also. Not so good reason a lot of things like -- Then -- -- control for turn by turn directions redundant between. Yourself lagging a little confused sometimes -- my greatest. So yeah over opposes. It's really just an old school -- -- if there's a lot of you know it's enough fuel efficient. I ain't gonna get you really don't want him a -- everything -- -- -- drive and yet. Yeah. Definitely -- -- -- -- But here's the first time. -- -- I'd -- -- that Carl Lewis was like twenty feet after it first put it in drive. And and the right -- -- -- apart in the parking garage area and it's a slightly polish cement -- there. I -- is a little Goosen -- you know. Yeah. Now. Most kissed the -- new domain by about -- -- five -- I get a nice power slide. Coming round a bend in the -- Oh god don't even try to see fair. And it turned control. And if so -- you know there's like so it's an out of doing something else early it's a and then -- forgot had lifted off. And so sitting at a red lights waiting for a light turned Green make a list in -- -- whom interests. The iPhone sideways getting -- good laugh -- that massive torque I was actually coming under the the Bay Bridge from Treasure Island which is a good spot to do I don't know -- -- to sixty run because of a stop sign there when it's clear you go when you've got your onto a freeway basically immediately. And so I'd -- on it there so the cargo hold it sideways dig in Latin -- and -- there's a barrier right next to be in the bay about -- -- feet below. Weight is about to get wet Cynthia and I kept an annoying ultimately. It was a total ample -- ideas pointed out it's old school push rod engine. You know it's gonna to mode adaptive suspension -- is basically a car you drive. I would -- so I was sure that suspension was actually in the sky -- setting in the specs and all that and it should be yeah but they also said it should have a button -- something's he can actually. That's the sport mode but on the screen. As a middle one Wii U -- you she is evident that one in the middle -- -- them. -- just sport yet. -- -- -- -- -- And it changes the accelerator the shifting India and the adaptive -- in a weird spike and it's nowhere near like the efforts you -- School notes in between like vehicle settings and succeeds neither of these seats he has -- -- that he if he's innocent and sport but Vista X that's what you want to feel the push this button. Inevitability that I didn't think they -- put that button on the screen at that it would be like on the console well I thought that be heated seats were controlled down on the console turns out those are the -- coupled with a -- -- -- -- on the cooled yeah Michael -- The seats are cooling off between not in the Alley and a mature economies -- -- -- -- go to the menu that asks you to see heater and -- in what you've been in the coupled -- -- room. -- -- -- -- -- -- That's a bizarrely without -- geared now that was the navigation since we told about if you are a few episodes ago where it got the number one rating it JD power for ease of -- -- and -- it's a simple. But it looks ridiculous. It would've blown up to eight point four inch LCD -- -- look bad I look silly next to those -- attic full leap styled -- it's like -- at what major design language here Playskool. -- hundred about a thousand dollar watched which are you gonna look like these are two totally different. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Breaking them closer to accuracy point taken. The other thing about this car is aside from via -- great power. It also is one of the few we've ever. CNET taxis to get to ask a thousand dollar gas goes yeah yet it doesn't happen as much anymore car companies have gotten good about. Put in enough efficiency in their editing get -- legitimate. Out what Chrysler has waiting in the wings for -- -- -- eight speed automatic. Is a five speed it's old school yet Wales school once they put that eight speed and hopefully -- and get you know enough. Of the bump on the highway mileage then it'll get -- that yeah that's just not keep him. -- -- -- This one of those cars where you the eight beetle get a more efficiency I didn't find the feisty was an issue with credibility because that -- just so over -- it doesn't you know a three -- Five that's and that's overkill eight don't be silly but for efficiency would -- -- veteran. Com we also and this I -- this is kind of interesting. I believe we had the car -- what they called premium speaker package for two grand -- -- -- a system yet 9900 Y but its base it comes with eighteen plus a sub. And then you option better eighteen speakers and a 900 watt amp is that of whatever the basis which I thought was kind of it was just like you -- -- agreed to stomping and listening to elect -- eight. Just the Rockford -- gave each -- in the -- at a that was fantastic either didn't really have any really sublime qualities. Edu in this is -- -- I think they will -- but the -- that beats by at least -- him more anybody despised I tested this at that CES and it was super tight super nice. Really just a fantastic job of making music and even really loud music with a heavy -- possible good seek public even morally correct. If they did this. I can get past that every time of this -- ago. This car says one thing yet I gotta go -- -- math. That's all of -- to either sell it or whatever. It's a -- -- what it's like right around and until people fleet of forty -- and if an item decay. I think it appeals to you and the guys who have the yet the goatee inspired by baseball players resolutely yet yet they and the wraparound glasses you know yet apps at all times and the -- -- do. I don't know I think but I think when I again this car -- my at my impression was. A little bit shocked. At how nice bulletin because I kind of have been in 300 before in the kind of -- but doesn't list the top end we have added. And it it it amazes me like that the sort of -- of quality can get within the same model. And of this vehicle -- you can get that rental -- special with the of them would have the -- -- V6 is still make it and it's just mean that that is the materials they -- -- -- -- exporters not executed like that that the power is not disputed everything you get in this exact same Clarke mean the same -- the same name and it's a different driving experience different engine transmissions suspension upholstery quality of materials wheels. Design cues on the outside with different and yet it's it's an amazing. Spread between a based 300 in this thing and this it looks really good in person if you're into that look. And not be -- anybody who -- but to me it's become a cliche because it's excessive popularity its first generation mated cliche it is a rap video car. This is no two ways around -- designers -- one drive one of these without -- without the seat back at about 73 technical team to rule as they rented them. I mean they -- on the -- only. Possibility this -- let me give dad a listener that you pull -- -- in 1940s look with this thing is this card does have that the -- that retro look and you could. If the Fedora and you know you could do that you're gonna modified to suicide doors may be easy suit and twelve go to shop that'll do that I'm sure you know -- -- you know -- Get the old steel of the older you'll pimp mobile. Mercedes thing to put over the of the headlights that's a great look -- seventies -- -- -- mobile Hadley of this is this a real Austria offerings regularly little propellers. Yeah but they're not there that that area there Mercedes star and covering -- -- -- it on super lifetime yes okay that's a great -- Doesn't go on square headlights as Italy and actively advocate got a great -- As they can redacted you know where or where were cross honored as -- -- and curb feelers and -- -- -- -- The engine and its current from the seventies so it might as well yeah right in the senate anyway 300 is a 50000 dollar college and a -- -- -- just know that. After that into it then -- don't have a lot of questions about all the details it's it's a muscle car. Completely. And it's the new 300 look and you know it is what it is -- it not for me but I can get someone really -- -- -- -- -- -- It's comfortable and -- cross country was I I like being -- it is that that that hides as much as possible of the red velour interior so that like the -- Good I really wanted to pick amid you can Wear though Redmond time next Thursday you -- of -- red leather boots took. 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