2016 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack: Bring the noise!​ (CNET On Cars, Episode 100)​
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2016 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack: Bring the noise!​ (CNET On Cars, Episode 100)​

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Dodge Challenger Scat Pack, Throwback Thursday everyday, I don't think wireless- Our biggest batch of your emails ever and your top five favorite car videos from our first hundred episodes. It's time to check the tech. We see cars differently. Nice. We love them on the road and under the hood, but also check the tech and They're known for telling it like it is. Ugly is included at no extra cost. The good, the bad, the bottom line. This is CNET on cars. Welcome to CNET on cars. The show all about high tech cars and modern driving. Episode 100 by the way. I'm Brian Cooley. Well, back in the late 60s, everything was a social movement, even car brands or so they thought. Ford for example casts themselves as the going thing.[SINGING] Ford, it's a whole new thing. it's a going thing. And over at Dodge they had something called the Scat Pack you could join, with all kinds of patches and brochures and Scat Pack wear. Well, now in 2016, Ford no long shakes it tambourine. However, the Scat Pack is back. No longer a club you can join. Although I guess buying the car does put you in the club with the angry bee on, or at least near, the bonnet. So let's get a flavor of how it's weathered the years as we drive the 2016 Challenger Scat Pack. And check the [UNKNOWN]. [SOUND] [MUSIC] Join the dodge rebellion with the dodge boys. [MUSIC] Today, it means, the challenger with a 6.4 hamming, Bill Stein high performance suspension, and [UNKNOWN] four pack calibers all around. And if you take the right option box, Cool graphics with an angry bumblebee. These have a lot of [UNKNOWN] part fun with the names of colors in those days. This car for example is a throw back called TorRed. Get it? They also brought back Plum Crazy and I'd pay any amount of money to check the option box to get a Hounds Tooth Check Interior. [SOUND] Now we are not looking at King of the Hill on challengers here, above this you've got SRT and above that of course you've got the Hell Cat. But those are both above 50 grand base. This is the ultimate challenger, for a working man's money. [NOISE] Now hopping into a Scat Pack Challenger, you're greeted right away by a little Scat Pack bumblebee embroidery and a special animation that wakes up when you key the thing on. Now, Scat Pack cars come with the upgraded screen, the 8.4 inch YouConnect head unit. People run hot and cold on this. There's an awful lot of powerful stuff going on here. I mean everything is configured as an app as they call it, the problem is it's too literally like a tablet. That's not really what you want in a car. It can become kind of a multi layered mess pretty quickly. Navigation, by the way, is a really clean great looking thing, including the fact that it's got this nice Garmin layout that As easy as anything on the road to use. I mean Where To? That's the way to enter a destination. Give me an address. Voice command is hit and miss like every car, but that navigation is not standard by the way, even on this upgraded car. It's another eight hundred. 100 bucks. Now, the coolest differentiator on a [UNKNOWN] or high performance challenger is performance control and performance settings. This is where you will set up things like the launch mode trigger, 3,000 RPM or higher or lower, wherever you want that. And that's where you can go in and decide which of the four parameters you want set what way. Notice you've got three ways to set your steering field. For both sport and standard mode. On this car, you do not have the option though, of an adjustable suspension. You have to go up to SRT to get that. Your other cool screen is performance pages. And here, you've got everything for. Track day. You can hit your timers, various types of lap timers that build a history. You've got two different sets of auxiliary, video gauges, a G force meter, and a nice little nested gauge that shows instantaneous torque and horsepower delivery. Now more is the pity that I've got nice red sheet metal here. I'd rather see a big old hole, that would bean I have the shaker option with a cold air intake, taking up through the hole, shaking back and forth as you rev the engine. It makes no difference in terms of the numbers, but it sure does look good. Now as to those numbers, this is a 6.4 liter, push rods, no direct injection, it's got sequential multi-port instead like we've had since what, the early 90s. 485 horsepower, 475 pounds of torque. Two transmission possibilities, a six speed manual that all you purists are going, " yeah." Let me have a smart choice. An eight speed automatic. You heard me? It's a beautiful Via four automatic the HP seventy found in recent BMW seven series. Mass ready quartzose and several Ashton martin. Brings more than just two more cars to the park. It rose up with it the multi display engine. Which idles unused calendars when cruising, that means 25 mpg average versus 23 with a stick. [NOISE] This automatic is really good gear box, it's not that slushy mess you think it is. Crisp shifts under its own control, it's also very nice under the paddles [NOISE] And the stability control gets the Outback just right, to save you but not be overly intrusive. If you get this car on the track, you're gonna find it's actually a very possible, handle-able, big old chunk of forty-two hundred pounds of mopar. It cuts and darts a lot better than its weight and look would suggest. It's still a lot of car. I want to autocross this thing in the worst way. Get out there with a bunch of little Porsches and Miatas. [BLANK_AUDIO] Now, launch mode, of course, sure is handy in a car like this. [INAUDIBLE] And full, getting all that to the ground and a fishtail. Little break loose but now we're getting our grip as we approach three digits. I think 120 is good enough for me, thank you. And by the way 60 comes up in about four and a half seconds. The high performance suspension by [UNKNOWN] and 14.2" disc with [INAUDIBLE] gives you a street personality that follows the road. On nice pavement this is a very comfortable car added by that adjustable steering effort. But when the pavement goes to hell, the ride quality goes with it. [UNKNOWN] You wish drove your Pacifica today. Okay, decisions, decisions, decisions. The Scat Pack Challenger is gonna run you about $39,000. $4,000 more for the shaker hood car because that rolls in a leather interior and a whole bunch of other niceties in the cabin. I'm a little torn cuz I want to keep this price down per our thesis. So I'm gonna stay with the non-shaker car Then I'm gonna load up some options to get CNET style, including the convenience group, the Harman-Kardon audio that requires leather anyway. The technology group, that ala carte navigation I talked about. And more controversial is gonna be that automatic transmission. I say yes. That's an incredible high tech eight speed gear box that is no slouch. It also brings with it a multi-displacement cylinder deactivation version of that same six-four hemi. That's gonna save you fuel all the time and a $1,000 gas guzzler tax up front. It's a sweet package. And it's the faster car, unless you're a race driver, and you're not. Finally there's that sunroof, that's gonna be controversial. Some are gonna say it dilutes the track purpose of this car, I say live a little. This is not a lightweight car to begin with. A little more apparatus up high is not gonna do anything more meaningful to your center of gravity. All in, we're at about $47,000 the way I would do it. You've got a good flow of cash going out of your pocket versus testosterone coming your way from Detroit. This is the [UNKNOWN] [SOUND] [MUSIC] By the way, if you think you're seeing double, you kind of are. That photo of a Porsche flat six is also on this tee-shirt. This is something new from a good friend of ours who you've seen several times in our CNet On Cars episode. Michael Allen Ross, a great automotive photographer, who's now putting his photos. On T-shirts of an exceptionally high quality in a new company called Retrograde Classics. Michael did the large-format automotive art you see around our set over the years. We've got no skin in the game, but I know a lot of you have admired his work in our different episodes. So I'd let you know that you can now wear it, not just look at it. [MUSIC] [BLANK_AUDIO] [MUSIC] Okay, as we get into your emails here, as I promised. We're gonna get through a slew of them. I feel bad sometimes, they back-up in the inbox because we only have so much room on the show. And we're gonna We're gonna make some room this time. Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna blast through these, bring out the nugget of your question and then I'm gonna reply in 140 characters like a tweet. That won't be easy for me but it'll make up for the fact that I barely get On Twitter. So here we go, our first one comes in from Ahmad E who's in Ann Arbor Michigan. He writes, I've currently got a Fiesta ST and have always loved hatchbacks, but was wondering why auto companies are kind of stopping the 3 door hatch trend on our shores here in the US? Like so much, blame the 80s, when hatchbacks were often entry-level cars Like diesel, Americans are slow to forgive past driving stigmas. Next e-mail comes in from from Peter A. who says, I love the idea of adding a blind spot monitoring system to my '13 Prius. You mentioned in a recent episode that there has been a sudden boom of these new systems on the market. Could you link to a few that you might suggest? The VOXX ACABSD uses microwave radar, And it's so new it's not even on their site yet. It lists for 899 but it looks like OEM level gear. This one comes in from Adam G in Massachusetts says what are your thoughts on the Toyota CH-R and is it coming to the United States? Looks like a worthy challenger to Juke CX-3 and Crosstrek expected here in spring of 2017. If you're in the market, it makes sense to wait. Simba D. in Zimbabwe asks I have heard some people saying that turbocharged engines wear faster and have shorter lifespans than non-turbo engines. How true is this? He says I have a 2004 Subaru Legacy with a turbocharged 2 liter engine. A concern 30 years ago, but modern turbo engines are engineered to live long and prosper. However, they do have more parts to break. Okay, next email comes in from Daniel P. in Timisoara Romania. He says, I bought the Valentine One radar detector. It did a great job until this year when I started driving a 2016 Mazda CX-5 That has a safety system with radar, laser, ultrasound built in to the front and rear of the car. Now my radar detector screams all the time when it's plugged in. Do you know of any detectors that are immune to these newer technologies in cars? Active your unit's Junk K Fighter software. If that's not installed, the unit can be upgraded for 80 bucks. Plus shipping from and to Romania. Selvin N. in Singapore writes is there any difference in suspensions that Rolls-Royce uses and those that are in other normal cars. How does Rolls-Royce have the so-called 'riding on a cloud' feeling in suspension. By the way, he says, I'm driving an '07 model year Hyundai i30. You can engineer in a lot of these movements for a third of a million dollars. And having 5500 pound in the hook always helps smooth the bumps. Next email from Abdulaziz Z who says I'm really tired of seats that are becoming harder and harder even in some German luxury brands that are supposed to be more comfy and relaxing to drive. Why is that? Race cars have hard seats for precise positioning and lightness, sporty German brands embrace that church pew ethic to conjure performance. Robert H. in Prince Edward Island writes in I'm now looking for something with actual four door sportiness instead of the claim of sports sedan Avec CVT. My question is in relation to the 2017 Ford Fusion Sport. There are next to no video reviews of this car he notes. Has Ford regulated the reviews of it? No all car makers crave reviews. The 17 Fusion sport is actually very new, ad we're amiss in not having a video of it, which I will fix. Okay Joe says I own a 2016 Ford Edge Sport, and I would like to know what that assembly is On the bottom half of the steering wheel in the center. In your video your finger actually taps on it. To me, he says, it looks like a steering wheel mounted speaker. As the front kind of looks like a grill, and there is enough depth behind for a speaker. Of course, I don't hear anything coming out of it, so he says, what the heck is it? Afraid it's just a piece of plastic with embossed holes in it. Some Ford wheels do have that space open and I found it an annoying finger trap. [SOUND] Okay, Chad G. says, I just finished watching your Top 5 Car Tech Upgrades. That was in episode 99, by the way. And I'm looking for a CarPlay head unit for my 2013 Chevy Cruz. Apple announced that CarPlay could be used wirelessly soon and not just through a lightening cable being plugged into your car stereo. He says I really don't want to buy a head unit that requires me to plug in my phone if I can help it. What are some good choices to go wireless? I don't think wireless carplay is in any head units yet. iOS 9 and later support it. Sony's XAV AX100 has wireless Android Auto. Maybe car play later. From Tao F, he says Tesla claims that their car has the highest resale value and lowest depreciation but when I tried to trade in my 2015 Model S 70 with 13,000 miles it was worth about $40,000 some 40% less than when I bought it new. How do dealers determine the value of a used car? See NADA, KBB and Black Book value guides. Premium cars tend to plummet. Look what happens to an Audi A6 and be glad you didn't buy a Nissan Leaf. From Cory in Tallahassee, says I just watched the episode with your review of the Subaru Crosstrek. And you mentioned to get a manual transmission you have to drop from the highest trim level. But then, you have to forego the eyesight technology. Why do car companies do this, he asks. Gone are the days when you could order a vehicle a la carte like my dad used to do. Choice breeds cost in R&D, production, and demand projection. Car makers would sell a single config if they could. Next email's from Baltimore from PC, who is not a Mac, and says, right now I'm in the market for a new car but I'm afraid I'm having hard time deciding which to get. My top choices are a 17 Honda Accord Hybrid or a 17 Mazda6. With the low cost of fuel, higher initial purchase price and steeper long term depreciation, due to advancing battery tech, Do you think it's still worth it to buy a hybrid nowadays? Do an Excel spreadsheet with hybrid cost premium, annual miles, years to be owned, fed and state incentives, and a fuel projection from the U.S. EIA. Okay, last one comes in from Lawrence in Ghana who says can you, please, send me the name of the cool soft porno beat you use for top five? Apparently the comments on YouTube didn't help. Those are licensed production tracks, we used a handful of them for top five. There's one that I think might be what you're looking for. [SOUND] When I come back, we'll take a look at the ultimate seen it on cars top five list. We [INAUDIBLE] the air through the middle of the lamp. [BLANK_AUDIO] Welcome back to CNET on cars. Coming to you from our home at the Mount Tam Motor Club, just north of the Golden Gate Bridge. [MUSIC] Now as this is our 100th episode. We are going to do a self regarding top five. It's actually one that you wrote. These are the top five, on the road car videos we've used, the one that always start off our show. Now, while none of these can compete on stream count with a really good cat video, these are our big guns. [SOUND] Number five is the Lamborghini Huracan, the only Lamborghini whose name you can figure out without Google Translate. Means hurricane and it goes like one. You know my favorite compliment for any car, it feels like [LAUGH] it feels like. The Huracan replaced the Gallardo and brought along with it a boat load of new tech. A fair amount shared with Audi and that's no slouch, and it really underlined this new era of supercars that are livable Beautiful, just bearable. Number four is the Tesla model S P85D. I will always remember this car. It goes so fast and does it with so little fuss. It's just insane. How can a car that weighs nearly 5,000 pounds do what that thing just did. Tesla has since topped even this guy with the new 100D, but those are pretty [UNKNOWN] Number three is the 2017 and still pending Ford GT. This guy came out of nowhere, nobody saw it coming. Hot as a stolen cop car. I still haven't actually gotten my hands on one of these on the road. That remains job number one for the year ahead. Number two is the Mercedes Maybach S600. The perfect place to put those stolen consent license plates you bought on Ebay. And let me tell you this is better than my office. Making maybach the high-end of S Class Instead of the high end of excessive, was a smart move by Mercedes. And this car more than any other on our list really begged for a nap in the back seat. [SOUND] Your number one favorite of our On the Road videos has been the Mercedes F 015 concept. Now once you've figured out which end was the front, this was the most amazing vision of future driving we've ever seen together. Autonomy, visual interfaces of the outside world. Nuanced communication with people on foot and bicycles, and it's biggest idea of all, that tomorrow's idea of luxury isn't more leather and wood, it's getting your time back on the road. Thanks for watching and getting us to 100 episodes. Hope you enjoyed every Single one of them. I know we've enjoyed bringing them to you. And a large part of that is because your email input is so great. Keep it coming oncars@cnet.com. I'll see you next time with Check the Tech. [MUSIC] [BLANK_AUDIO]

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