Ugh, alright, light sabers.
A phaser's like a, like a weak blaster.
There are two stars in this room, Rich Trenholm and myself, Luke Westaway, but there are also two stars in the geek canon, Trek and Wars.
But which is better?
I prefer Star Wars.
Rich preferred Star Trek.
Why is that, Rich?
Well, it's obvious.
It's a, Star Trek is a utopian vision of, of the potential of humanity.
What we could, we all have to look forward to if we can all just learn to get along.
Except with the Klingons.
We don't like them.
That sounds pleasant as an idea.
It sounds like boring television.
It's great television.
Honestly it's great television.
I mean, let's face it, there's a whole universe full of terrors, and scary things, and exciting things, and new planets to explore, and alien women to try and make love to, and just all this exciting stuff that's happening, all across the galaxy, and what's the first thing you do when you encounter these things?
You have a meeting!
have a meeting
And who doesn't want to have a meeting.
Well I'll tell you who doesn't want to have a meeting
Han Solo has a meeting in A New Hope and it, and in that meeting there's an argument and someone gets shot to death [laugh]
Honestly, I'd say
That's more exciting.
Well, it depends if you're the person who made the agenda or not because frankly that kind of thing going off of, off the minutes it's just not acceptable.
I think, I know that, I know that popularity isn't everything, but in this source of Star Trek versus Star Wars thing.
And I think I would say like just incase anyone's really frothing at the mouth.
We do both love both, but we just have our preferences.
I hate him.
What I would
Instinctively disagree with him.
[LAUGH] What I would say,
is that, if you look at the popularity of both franchises, I think it's fairly clear that Star Wars.
Is more enduringly popular, despite being-
How can it be more enduringly popular?
When did Star Wars start?
When did Star Trek start?
And when did Star Trek actually become popular?
Not when it originally aired, only when it was sort of repeated on the TV ad naseam.
So children sat home with nothing else to watch, because Star Wars had finished at the cinema.
[LAUGH] We're like, like, I guess this is a bit like Star Wars.
They are in space.
So it'll have to do and that's what Star Trek is.
It's the have to do.
Let's look at the quality of robots.
Okay, fine, bring it on!
Look at the droids in Star Wars.
C3PO a kind of fussy golden butler and a little tiny walking trashcan that can't even talk properly.
And then you've got Data.
[CROSSTALK] All powerful, all powerful robot who just do anything.
I don't really understand actually why the rest of them are there.
It should just be Data just flying around on his own.
Sorting out problems.
I don't really understand why he even needs a spaceship or that kind.
Kinda thing, but anyways.
All all-powerful robot who can do things on his own.
That's, so that's Data.
And like again, it's like the utopian society.
It's like, yeah it's cool but like, it's not much fun to watch.
You've got C-3PO.
Utopia's cool, kids.
Utopia is fun.
It's, it's not much of an adventure.
It's not like the, the conflict between good and evil that resides within every one of us, but like so C-3PO and R2-D2 are perhaps the greatest on screen robots ever.
Yes they are, I'm just running through the databanks and yes they are.
So, C3PO is great because he provides light comic relief without being annoying, and he always looks like he's about to fall over, which is brilliant.
R2D2 is extremely lovable he was, when I was a kid he was my favorite.
You know, he's like, he's, he's.
Plucky and cool and he does that without saying any words, but with just sort of whistles and boops and things.
He's extremely practical.
He's, he's, you, you admire R2-D2 immensely.
Plus he has to have his head outside in, of the spaceship.
When they're going through space, he's got the best view.
All right, light sabers.
A phaser is like a, like a weak blaster.
A phaser is a, is a well a.
You can dial it up.
That's why they say phasers on stun.
You can dial it up and dial it down.
Again, you, again like, useful practical things, boring to watch.
Like, oh good, I hope they put them on stun.
[LAUGH] Here we go, all the phasers are on stun.
I can't wait til everyone gets stunned.
[LAUGH] All right, let, let's talk baddies then.
We've got the Borg.
It's, oh, it's brilliant.
The [INAUDIBLE] are incredible, I think.
You, you've got me there.
I wish Star Wars had a really iconic bad guy who I could sort of pull out of my sleeve at this moment.
But I don't think there is one.
I'm just, I mean, I was just thinking is there any.
No, just the book, just the book.
Resistance is futile.
This is [CROSSTALK]
Don't bother even thinking about it.
Star Trek has good, good bad guys.
Okay, let me ask you.
Where would you rather have lunch, Star Trek or Star Wars?
In the canteen in Star Trek.
Which is nice, but it's practically like eating lunch in the office.
It's always going to be kind of [CROSSTALK]
But you can have it wherever you want.
You said on the, you got the replicator and and say I'll have, roast dinner please.
All the trimmings.
I also wonder why they are all so thin.
What about the key behind you up to the replicator, where everyone is like, oh, he's ordered rice dinner.
It's gonna take a while to print out.
[LAUGH] No, it's fine.
I'm not hungry.
You go ahead, Rich.
As you printed all the potatoes?
They're out of potatoes again.
[LAUGH] Out of potat, you printed them all.
Also soup, then.
Just print me some soup.
I'll have whatever's left.
But then again if you guys have lunch in Stars War, you're probably gonna be in the cantina.
Again, you're gonna have your arms cut off.
Which you don't need.
Which is not ideal.
Maybe you'll be in Jabba the Hut's palace.
He drops you through a hole in the floor.
Just because you're.
Said he looked like a big slug.
Which, I mean, he does look like a big slug..
He does look like a big slug.
He doesn't look like a big slug, I mean he sort of is a big slug.
Alright, so at the end of this.
Have I convinced you, have I made you think any higher of Star Wars?
Yeah, I think so.
I don't think I could think any lower of Star Wars so I think you've a pretty good job.
I quite like the way I didn't have to say very much and you'd just eventually start arguing your way around them.
Well, actually, yeah.
Well no, okay.
So, my conclusion is-
Star Wars is, is, more exciting.
Star Trek is probably on the whole, sort of like, a better geek culture thing, because it's more complete.
And, it's easier to imagine yourself in because it's a little bit mundane, just like real life.
That's where, that's my final position.
I think that makes sense.
Yeah, we, I think we're agreed.
Okay, so we've come to terms, but what do you think?
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