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PlayStation is 20 and Stephen Hawking's robopocalypse in CNET UK podcast 413We look back at two decades of Sony's gaming powerhouse and head to Middle-earth for the final time.
[MUSIC] Hello and welcome. You're listening to CNET UK podcast and this is episode 413 for Friday the 5th of December 2014. The PlayStation is 20 years old. Yoda phone is back and Stephen Hawking has voiced his fear of a robot apocalypse. With less than 20 shopping days of Christmas left! I'm Rich Bonhomme and joining me in our high tech studio this week is Andy Doyle. Hello! Hello! It's just me! Just you You was gonna do, you were gonna say another, another name. I was, I, wasn't, yeah, we had to bring you in cuz, no one else would do it. Shame But, yeah, [INAUDIBLE] topic Christmas shopping I guess and Jason as well Yes, he's, hey, he's in Mexico Getting us presents. And anyway good to have you back. As always we are filming the podcast and you can see this and all our videos on, CNET or YouTube.com/CNET. So, look out for that. But for now, let's start with the news. [MUSIC] I'm gonna start by talking to you about Professor Stephen Hawking, Rich. The renowned theoretical physicist. Legend. You do know about all about his work in depth, as do, I'm sure, our listeners. Mm-hm. So I won't go into detail on that. But he has been working with Intel on a new a new communication system. And that is called ACAT or Assisted Context Aware Toolkit. Now it's apparently twice as fast as the old system. Which would be as that is a basis as how he communicates to people. Speeding up by, by twice is that, that's That's a lot. Yeah. I'll tell you. Imagine if you could talk twice as fast. [LAUGH] Even with that the podcast would be hard to select, which I'm sure everybody would appreciate that. Yeah. [LAUGH] So so that's cool. Well, the customization is that it's actually going to be an open source platform. Yeah. For researchers and developers to use. The idea is that it's not just being built for Stephen Hawking to use. Mm-hm. But can also be used for other people who are suffering with the same condition, that's motor neuron disease. Mm-hm. and- That's ALS for our American listeners and viewers. Yes, ALS. Like the ice bucket challenge thing, if people actually knew what that ice bucket thing was for. Yeah. So yeah. And other people who similar conditions where they can't communicate normal. So so that's pretty cool. Yeah. That's a good system. What's also quite cool is that it uses Swiftkey, which is the same keyboard its the same keyboard that your built in use for Andriod fans. Hm. Which is. Are you popular. I believe that, yeah. I use that. Also a British company something to be proud of, yeah. Yes, it is a British company. I, I like the idea as well that see a, Stephen Hawking probably one of the smartest man in, in the world is going to have the same auto correct problems as us. So he'll be like gee fancy nipping out for a riots. Yeah. And, and that kind of thing. You piece of suit. Exactly, that yeah, kind of thing. It's a not all great news though is it. No it's not all good news if fact because Stephen Hawking also predicted the end of humanity Hm courtesy of the computers that we're all using. Those pesky computers. He says, AI would take off on it's own and redesign itself as an ever increasing rate. Right Bad news. Humans who are limited by slow biological evolution couldn't compete. And would be superseded. Robo Apocalypse. This is terrifying. Terrifying, yes. He is quite I think a singularity. Yeah. Yes. So what? They, they could easily finish it off already, couldn't they, right there? Well, they could. Yeah, they could just poison the food, with the robot basically made most of our mass produced food. They could build the car so that the wheels just basically fall off as you're driving along, that kind of thing. The thing about automated cars, Google, Google drives them. Yeah, yeah. They could just stop working. [CROSSTALK] Your whole home could lock you out. I mean everything we do already. Yeah, precisely. And all this mess can just stop making your house warm in the, in the winter. And smart ovens is no longer gonna cook your food. [LAUGH] [CROSSTALK] Everything we already use in technology, it just stops. Well, then the human race would crumble immediately. We are the, yeah, we're at the mercy of our, of our robot overlords. Brentster21 on on one of our comments says, well, isn't this why we have the three laws? That's Asimov's famous Three Laws of Robotics. And he says, seriously, those laws become as important as the. Ten commandments when the time comes. Yeah. Wise Alive also says he, he has a bit more measured approach, Wise Alive. He or she. It says, or possibly a robot. We, you, you just don't know. They say, A, I will continue to improve in cost effective ways that will threaten evermore human jobs, but it will ultimately be humans calling the shots. If we destroy the planet through climate change. Meanwhile. Then robots might be the only ones actually can live here. And a robot revolution could be the least of our worries. So if it's not the robots it's the, it's these ozone layers. It's the polar bears. Yeah. Yeah, we've got it coming from all directions really if the human race. Yeah. [CROSSTALK] we're in trouble, aren't we. But is the- Anyway. Maybe the robots are the most direct threat. Particularly if you've seen the the big dog walking [CROSSTALK] being bought by Boston Dynamics. Who have been bought by Google. So yeah, that is, that is terrifying. Look forward to that. Let's, is there any, any cool stuff we can [INAUDIBLE] so we can distract ourselves [CROSSTALK] In the meantime whilst we're waiting for our inevitable demise. Yeah. Why don't I tell you about the YotaPhone 2. Mm. this is. Yes. Right here, for one thing, in my hand, so. Yep. Viewers of our, of our video podcast can see me holding it. For listeners of our pod, for listeners we, this. Kinda of gold you get when you watch the video. Oh gold. Andy is currently holding a phone. And it's pretty spectacular. Yeah were both pretty handsome. This phone five, five inch android phone. But ignore all that nonsense. Ignore all the usual android stuff because on the back it has a e-ink. Display that's the same Flipped it over display technology as in Flipped the script Amazon Kindle. It's pretty cool. Yeah. So, super good battery life if you use the E ink screen all the time. Sounds pretty cool sounds nice idea there is a problem. There is a problem. There is a problem.>> There's always a catch. It costs 550 pounds. Which is ludicrously expensive. Oh, that's a lot of money. For a completely unknown brand, with are admittedly good but it's a gimmick. Mm. Is what it is and people need to really know. They're selling it at 550 pounds. No one's got a reason a buy that. Particularly, when you can get. Phones like the LG G3. Yep. Is on sale right now on Amazon for only 300 pounds, I found that today actually. Excellent. 300 pounds. Good price, yeah flagship. For top end flagship, with a laser in it's camera, and a 2K screen, and here's a, [LAUGH] here's a Yota phone for 550. Fair enough. And as an aside, we've also got another, a new manufacturer that we've, that, that, has just popped into the office. [UNKNOWN] [INAUDIBLE] This is literally, First time we've seen this, this [CROSSTALK] Come in today. In fact, so good that we can take off the, everyone loves taking off the, screen protector in the first, but if I do it in closeness to the mic. You can hear the. [NOISE] Oh, oh that was good. Oh that's a good sound. Podcast gold. That is brilliant. Yeah. Again when, if you, if you're doing you'll be able to see how thin this is because it is astonishing thin. It's only five millimeters. Thin 5.1 I think. And what is this called? This is called the Kazam, something or other. I put the box down, it literally had just arrived. [LAUGH] Here, in fact, is the jiffy bag that it had literally just arrived in, so. Very professional. Its called the Kazam Tornado 348 and that only cost about 250 pounds. So look forward to the review. Of that one, for an alternative from a European new manufacturer. Absolutely, I say cool, and so, speaking of phones, for this time, land lines, fixed lines. Yes, bad news bears for BC customers. And in fact actually lots of land line people. Yep. Because land line prices are now going to be one pound more expensive. Expensive. War. I know, that whole pounds. That's 100 fewer penny suites you can buy every month now. I don't even know if penny suites are a penny anymore. I think they're not, they were the first casualty with inflation. I bet their not. Because they would have doubled immediately. Yeah. If not. More so. Okay. And you can't get Friday's for 10 pounds either. No and do you know how much 10 pence Christmas costs now? Is it 30 pence? I don't know but its not 10 pence anymore let's put it that way. You can't get Space Raiders for dirt cheap anymore. It's terrible. [CROSSTALK] [UNKNOWN] Yeah. Anyway yeah. It's [UNKNOWN] talk talk, sky and next year it will be Virgin as well, are putting up their line rental for you. Everyone's doing this. And just a reminder of what we pay for, Beefy has had a bit of an outage. To where people who were on BC Broadband couldn't access the web, including me. I was trying to watch The Wire on, on, on [UNKNOWN] today, and I couldn't, and I was very angry. Maybe it was its way of saying you should watch something better. [LAUGH] Oh, zing. Oh, that's the worst thing in the world. Like Men in Black. Because really, why wouldn't you always watch Men in Black? Well, moving on from that bad news. Mm-hm. To some good news.>> A bit of nostalgia. A bit of nostalgia. Yes. So it's it's the 20th anniversary of the PlayStation. The Sony PlayStation.>> Wow. The first PlayStation and celebrate Sony. Has released a classic gray version of the PS4, as in the same classic gray colors of the original model. Oh, that super ugly grey they got rid of? Yeah, yeah, that's all gray, yeah. That super nasty grey here. It was almost a throwback of the like, beige IBM PCs. [LAUGH] You used to get in the 90s. God knows why they made it grey, that's so strange, but anyway if you have it. Dude, you don't want one, cuz it's super limited edition Rich. Yeah. So limited that there are in fact only 12,300 units being made. Is that all? Is that, yeah that is, so you know, act now if you want to get your hands on any of those 12 and a half thousand. [CROSSTALK] yeah, well that, that's because that's in reference to the date. Yeah. Because it was, it was launched on the third of December, 1984. So 12, 3. yeah. Brilliant, yeah. I mean they could've done 3, 12. No they couldn't. But anyway, you know what I mean. 3,020. So yeah, and. And that's gonna be 400 pounds. 400 pounds. So if you want one, there you go. And did you have them? One of these? I haven't one of these but I did have that original PlayStation. Right. Of course. I was always been a PlayStation boy right up until the Xbox 360.>> Okay. Which one had both of course. Cuz. Mm-hm. A bit of a nerd. yeah, and the Playstation was, was, is fantastic. And I had some of my favorites of course Cool Boarders which every year, still me and, and my brother, Yeah. We play through the entirety of Cool Boarders at Christmas time. And we'll be doing so this Christmas. So you get all the special attractor. Special. The snowman, the alpine board. The free style board. Brilliant game. Final Fantasy 7 of course, Crash Bandicoot, Tomb Raider. These were all the PS1 classics. Yep. I mean I wasn't a huge gamer. I did own one. I won mine in a pub quiz. Actually it was a pub quiz that was sponsored by Sony. So we won a PlayStation each. And we also won a wooly hat each. And a, a bag with a Playstation logo on it, and a bottle of vodka. So, I was gonna say, you were in a, you were in a pub you got this, so. Yeah. So, how old are you? I I was 18. 18. Yep, it's a couple years after it came out, so it's was then. When I got mine I was. One of those steps when it came on. [LAUGH] Well you know them so you're probably already in the pub then anyway. [LAUGH] That's possible, yeah. I've a yeah, I had that and we didn't play many classic games after Eastern. I've played Driver a lot. I remember I use to play a diehard trogy and then we'd go out at the pub, to the pub in the evening, and then Nocturnal Flatmate would come out and play Resin Evil in the dark or night, which was. Terrifying when you went downstairs to get a drink of water in the night, but there you go. Also, the ps2 which my girlfriend bought for me, which made up for the Christmas where I bought her a set of hair straighteners, really expensive ones, and, she found them before christmas and, having not bought me anything, she ran out to the shop and got me a dvd and apple. And that's what [LAUGH] A dvd and an apple. A dvd and an apple, yeah, but, but then my birthday she got me a ps2, I think she felt a little bit guilty. [UNKNOWN] it was if anyone is interested in [INAUDIBLE]. Why the Apple? That was just all they had in the shop. They wasn't. Actually that was service they had this DVD and Apples and [CROSSTALK]. What? What shops is she going to that sells both these things? Just a corner shop. It was the only place that's open just before Christmas. But anyway, we, we try [CROSSTALK] Did you ever play sorry to interrupt. Do you every play Die Hard with a light gun? Yes. Oh, I did have tons of questions too with the light gun. [CROSSTALK] Okay, yeah, I used to rent them from Apollo Video in [UNKNOWN]. No, I didnt. I was in [UNKNOWN] by then. I'd say. From wherever it was, it was amazing, cuz I couldn't ever afford to buy a light gun but I did rent them from the shop Mm, yeah I know I did the, did the Good plan. Time Crisis Two as immortalized in the zombie episode for, is it the zombie episode? One of the episodes of Space anyway, I'm sure they played Time Crisis in that. So they get, anyway, moving on. More memory search as [UNKNOWN] 35. One of our commentors says I remember using that original PlayStation wanting to playing Resident Evil with my dad. That's a very nice memory. That was in like 1997. Such a memorable experience. Mark Jackson talking about the limited edition gray PS4 says. I keep throwing my wallet at the screen, but nothing is happening. Which is [UNKNOWN]. TracyTooFastForYou08 [LAUGH] says, for a collector it's pretty neat. I like I white one too much to trade it in, lol. And NARVHC78 says, $498? Thanks but no thanks. I like Mark Jackson's comments that I keep throwing my wallet at the screen but nothing's happening. Mm-hm. It's that, we laughed at that, sounds ridiculous, but really if you've got. Contactless payment on your, in your credit cards. [INAUDIBLE] And you could do that and just hurl your money at it and they'll accept the payment. . The future of online shopping. Just get your wallets out and just bang. Put it on the screen. Yep. And then done. Smash your TV so you might as well buy a new one too. Well, speaking of retro competing and retro gaming. Yes. The Sinclair [INAUDIBLE] Spectrum is back. And, well, in a, in a form, anyway. Mm. It's called the Spectrum Vega, and it's actually being crowd-funded on Indiegogo. Hm. And now it's looking for 100,000 pounds. Yeah? Of a target, which, that's a lofty amount of money, you might think. Mm-hm. But, it's already reached it, and it has 59 days left to go. Wow. So, who knows what sort of amazing heights of money. They are going to be rolling in. Can you actually get one? How much do they cost? Well, so it did cost a 100 pounds for the, for the console itself. Hm.>>It's like a little micro console. Kind of imagine like the original spectrum. Or, more recently imagine like a raspberry in a case, that sort of thing. Okay. And it comes with a 1000 games built in and they're going to be 14,000 more available to download. So, a lot of the original spectrum games are available and made for it. Hm. It costs 100. [CROSSTALK] Cost 100 Pounds, which isn't very much. But sadly they have all sold out. There are various other ways you can contribute to the internet campaign. But the original, the Fat 1000 consoles have all gone. Mm. And as far as I've seen, there's no word on where they're gonna be doing more runs of these yet. They certainly will, if it, if it's that popular. It seems the demand is there, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I had a [UNKNOWN] I had a Commodore 64. Did you? Yep, it was beige. okay, what else is, Good old beige. What's happened to beige in computer. What else is going on. [LAUGH] Yeah, exactly. I mean that was, that was, that was the color to be having then, wasn't it? It was, it was, the, yeah it was [CROSSTALK] Now we're all like, oh look at my flashing blue lights. Ice computer, whatever, okay. yes. I'm gonna move onto some Star Wars news. That's right. And I'm gonna hand this over to you, Rich, because, as we all know, I am not very good on film. [LAUGH] Well, this did kind of happen last week, so we thought we'd mention it anyway, because we're all very excited about it. I mean, obviously you don't think it's as good as [INAUDIBLE]. Well, well, yeah. So, the new Star Wars. Trailer I did watch it. It looks really cool. And I have, I have to be fair seen the original Star Wars I've seen all the Star Wars but obviously even I know that they original ones are better. And we don't have Jarjar Binks in then so that's a bonus. But it's no Men in Black is it? No Men in Black that's true. Well we're very excited about [UNKNOWN] I imagine you've probably seen him by now formal 620 says wow what an incredible teaser trailer I can't wait. Hopefully it'll be as good as the prequels in terms of visual impact. And as good as the originals is in terms of quality directing. So for a second there we thought Formal was was making up some nonsense. But pulled out the bag that Formal's [INAUDIBLE] And Gadget 70 has also said, fantastic trailer which recaptures the xx of the original trilogy. Loved the X-Wings, Millennium Falcon, and the soccer ball droid. The new lightsaber, however, with the laser guard, is utterly useless. If it's meant as a hand guard another light saber would simply slide down your blade, cut off the guards from the handle and continue to slice off your arm. Now this, bizarrely enough, is a debate that's been raging online extensively about how [LAUGH] useful the the, the made up space sword might actually be in a fight and how safe it might be, so, [LAUGH] if you've got any thoughts on that then let us know. Gee whiz [UNKNOWN] just watching this made me feel like a giddy 10 year old again. Awesome had to watch it seven times in a row. Can't wait a whole year to see it. So there you go Star Wars isn't going to be out until next December so a year from now. Yeah We're gonna see other trailers in the man time probably around May the 4th on Star Wars Day Star Wars Day>> Also probably with the Avengers Age of Ultron sequel. They both made by Disney but see. I not sure how a crossover of Men in Black and Star Wars would go. The only thing I can think of. A man came in here earlier. A dead man. and then that not the dead man your looking for. Thats. I like it, I like it. If I can remember anything from [UNKNOWN]. That would be, that be amazing. Take you through the entire script word-for-word if you like. [LAUGH] Possibly we'll do that next week. Brilliant. Here's a film that you don't have to wait to see, and this is The Hobbit. The new Hobbit film, yes. I have just taking over the reins of talking about this before passing it immediately back to you because you were at the world. Premiere, yesterday [CROSSTALK] I was, yes, And how was that? I wa, I walked the green carpet with Benedict Cumberbatch and [CROSSTALK] Green carpet? Yeah, they didn't have a red carpet, they had a green carpet. I guess it meant, it was meant to be like Middle Earth or something. I think it was just cheap. [LAUGH] Yeah, So that's, easiest, you can, you can. Simple dry or green card. I think they, they've put it in with something green and it came out, the red carpet came out green. Yeah, they need to use bounce. So this is the Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies. Which is the the final film in the trilogy of the. Well, it's the final film the trilogy of prequels, but it's also the final film in the Peter Jackson Lord of the Ring series unless. She just givin' up load of money to make some more. It's pretty much more the same if you like Lord of The Rings. You will like this. If you don't like Lord of The Rings, there's nothing [UNKNOWN] Have you got loads more just songs for no reason? Yeah the set has three musical numbers yeah, yeah. [UNKNOWN] There's a rap battle between Gandalf and Saruman which is which is, it was pretty fun. Yeah, yeah. That's math, I mean [CROSSTALK] basically it's, it's, Quite intelligent. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Oh, totally. Deadly. Yeah, it sound like, Yeah. Maybe Gandolf laying down some lines, great, great Middle Earth life. [LAUGH] But there's not enough Bilbo and no decent pence, but apart from that it's pretty good. Gandolf'sbeard, one of our readers, says, I wish peace tax men could do more work based in Middle Earth, I hate. To see end. Gandalf's beard sounds like an exclamation. Gandalf's beard! That's awful. He also sounds a little bit like you know, Gandalf's wife, who has to go along to parties and pretend that Gandalf [LAUGH]. Anyway, so yeah, and a reader in Houston says, so glad it's over, Jackson did such a great job in the Lord of the Rings. The Hobbit was a flop. Didn't like it at all. It shouldn't have been more than two movies. Which I think is a fairly, is a fairly popular sentiment. But you know, if you used to like Lord of the Rings then, there you have more of the same certainly. [CROSSTALK] Only one, really, should it have to be. Anyway, if, if any, I mean, it didn't have to be a film at all, right. Let's be honest. That's true. That's true. But anyway, yeah, so I mean check it out. That's out very soon in the U.K. And then it's out the week after, very soon, in the U.S. So [CROSSTALK] You've already seen it because you're cool. Yep, I guess. Anyway, cool, let's move on. And hear what you guys have been saying in this week's feedback. [MUSIC] Feedback time! So what have you guys been saying on Facebook and the like? I happen to like Pierce Cocar, I hope I'm saying that right. Apologies if I'm not. Is it the right time to buy a laptop, or should I wait for Processor Ms, this is Intel, cool air processor. Yeah. I can wait if it's going to be a major change. So. Well, yeah. There will be some changes. It's more about the size. So going to have like really thin tablets. Obviously it's designed for some mobile not for like desktop PCs. So really really skinny tablets. And as with all new Intel processors it's all about more power and taking up less battery. So. So potentially less than nine millimeters thick. yeah. About a third the thickness of PCs from 2010. So if you do have a bit, a PC that's a bit older you can get a. And you order a tablet it's like a third of the a third of the thickness. Yeah. But you won't have too long to wait because it's out, it's available now for for manufacturers. And we're gonna be seeing laptops and tablets in the first few months of 2015. So we haven't too long to wait to find out. But if lightness bothers you, if you want a really light laptop then [INAUDIBLE]. I would say it's very worth keeping your eye on the January sales for computing though. Mm. Cuz obviously they have sales anyway. But knowing that they're going to get a whole load of new PCs coming in. So. They're going to wanna shift this stock. That's a good time to do it. And that's a good time to look at some bargains on like PC warehouse has some great deals. Good tip saving money and [UNKNOWN] Money. [CROSSTALK] Saving [CROSSTALK] Christmas yet again. So Martin Leo David Robinson says I've had the runs for three days. Should I go see a doctor? Also it burns when I pee. That can't be good, can it? Now this isn't so much a tech question, but we feel that, you know, as a public service we should probably answer it. And the answer to that is yes, you should go [CROSSTALK] to your doctor. I mean. We. I mean obviously we're not medical professionals so don't take that advice. We're not? No we just play one on TV. But yeah so there you go. Matthew Dawson Jones has sent in a review of the 2013 Google Nexus 7 which was written by his daughter. Actually his daughter Martha who is nine months old. And she says it tastes nice and it sounds great when you hit it with a small plastic giraffe. Which sounds like a four star review to me. Well it sounds like exactly what I would. Writing my review of the [CROSSTALK] That's, that's our, our new benchmark that you're after. Tig Camel Moore says, asks you a question, what's going to be the hot new tech of 2015 and why? Well, same big trends that we've been seeing for a while, gonna see a lot more wearables, obviously we've got the Apple watch coming, we'll more Android wear stuff, we'll probably see new stuff. Google Glass, whether you should be excited about wearables yet, I mean, I'm not yet, I'm still waiting for this, that big, big product to come along I think this Christmas might be a big, a big theme, because I heard some people talk to some analysts and some retail analysts talking about how wearables might be big this Christmas with smartbands and, and smart watches being bought as presents. Yeah, with lots of sales, but I still don't think there's a particular reason to be excited about what they do. They aren't the revolution that smartphones were to feature phones. They're not bringing in this, yet, yet, yet. Okay. Another one that might become, I think become big this, this year is is Smart Home. So, we might see things like that [UNKNOWN] becoming you know, a lot more main, quietly mainstream, I think. It's not really a thing that. Flashy things Have you got one? I have not. No, I, I rent my place. [UNKNOWN] Just like Russel Brand. Yeah, yeah he rents. Yeah. [UNKNOWN] I don't. No, no. Another thing I think might be a big thing. I actually tried this out the other day. I tried an [UNKNOWN] virtual reality stuff at the Hobbit premier. Oh. They made, sort of a virtual movie in middle earth. They went to New Zealand and they done this thing where you look around in middle earth. You're in sort of [UNKNOWN]. You look around and you can kind of. See Galdalph walks past you and fireworks go off and you look up into the sky and you can see the fireworks. And so Occulus they may actually release the project but there's the product but the Sony Morpheus, the Samsung Gaviar so there's all this [CROSSTALK] When when you were there did you look down and were terrified by your huge harry feet? And then we said, calm down Rich, you haven't put it on yet. That is, that is Zing. What happens every single morning. All right, thank you very much for the feedback. Please keep the feedback coming by e-mailing us at firstname.lastname@example.org. That it's for this week, thank you Andy. Thank you Rich. Thank you. It's been a pleasure. Thanks to our producer Mark, who you will never see. We're off to play Resident Evil in the dark. See you next week. [MUSIC]