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Ep. 1543: The DOJ puts AT&T in time-outWow, look at the big consumer-friendly brain on the DOJ! The Justice Department files an unexpected suit to block the AT&T and T-Mobile acquisition, and we discuss whether we think that will mean the end of it, or whether AT&T will just start buying members...
Today's Wednesday August 31 2011 -- Steven beach of I am -- off. And I am Molly Wood welcomes buzz out loud is cnet's podcast of indeterminate length episode 1543. U Alice's public -- -- -- -- or a commitment of the weird and and would be. I could do that the idea but I'm not going. I couldn't we. Dead trees -- -- is disappointed with their -- but we were so excited about the news that we were talking about it and then we're like register at the show we're trying to do this already a lot of things -- About the huge news. Let me tell -- this -- been one of the most boring months and I -- on the last day I wake. Could you do anything more to just put me to sleep I get delivered again coming through other the last day. Of the month. The US Justice Department move -- to block the -- officially filed suit to block the AT&T T-Mobile merger now. To -- that was the color enters late. August is -- -- just left often mirrored at. Look wow wow O well how about ideology not stepping it up so happen in. The move came sooner than expected apparently not part of it was a big surprise. We didn't that we ever -- was kind of expecting. Then -- they were basically saying they were gonna continue their review there are expected to make a decision on the merger early next year that CC and the DOJ -- early in the and then the other fact that they -- filed this petition against the merger is somewhat of a surprise and would suggest that. AT&T. -- a better -- failed miserably to convince the -- yeah this was good for anyone but AT&T. Now in their statements they said one of the main reasons would that. The merger would allow that would AT&T T -- merger would have a substantially lessen the competition in the industry. Filing US antitrust laws the combination of AT&T T-Mobile together result in tens of millions of customers across the United States. Facing higher prices fewer choices. And lower quality products for mobile wireless services which is absolutely true we we talked about it a while ago we were sad more than anything because. This -- not as far from a -- but this is. The -- Department of Justice putting their stamp on this and saying this is what we don't think they should go through because there's going to be a lot of negotiations in the background. There's a lot of money involved so it's not like this is just going away but T-Mobile as it stands -- -- the one of the most innovative carriers -- brought forth the Android platform. Wants AS HSP eight plus -- also on start off with unlimited data plan so they they were that kind of smaller player that was really trying to innovate and bring new things to the table in the industry and has -- get -- of that. It's it would go away. Be terrible and to me that's where -- DOJ totally nailed it LSD -- -- -- -- said the same thing you may the fact that they pointed specifically -- T-Mobile being that disruptive force and that's what -- call them in the wireless industry to -- was like the the most compelling argument I mean it's one thing to say. It's sort of unquestionable despite that it would reduce competition that it would raise prices that it would probably eliminate jobs despite eighteen -- and -- would create 5000 jobs. And that it wouldn't ultimately be good for consumers to mergers like -- never are. But that has not stopped the FCC or the DOJ from allowing similar mergers or mergers of an equal caliber to go through. To -- -- where they really apparently have the biggest problem. Wasn't saying. Not only would it reduce competition but it would reduce competition and take somebody who has like really push the industry forward completely out of again. The -- is also saying -- that that. Because there's so much money in the table -- you said I mean if this doesn't go through AT&T -- -- T-Mobile three billion. Dollar. -- -- even be more because part of that agreement is also they would give up wireless spectrum. To the T-Mobile if this doesn't go through rate and also there's this reduced -- -- for people using AT&T network which could bring the total to somewhere around six -- seven billion dollars right if it does not go through. As three million dollars in cash and then potentially all those other things out to seven billion dollars though. This speculation is like it's limiting the terms is that so let's say may be kicked down three million dollars to buy apps and senators and -- representatives like this. Is going to half. I hope that's manager Rick and I gotta say -- liked the -- -- did this was so surprisingly pro consumer. Yeah this one little thing. And Mikey said AT&T is claims of the widest merger needed to happen. Was really to two point that there really rested their laurels on we need more -- from. To provide better service across America right now AT&T and T-Mobile -- like 97 of the 100 major markets and then also to say that. This creates jobs those -- another two things that they were really pushing and it is so it says Diaz the government doesn't want this because the government doesn't like jobs. You're crazy that's not what it's about the Intel by -- That is exactly what AT&T is saying is going to and in fact even before. -- literally just as we posted this story the DOJ news came -- -- even before the DOJ news maybe AT&T had a tip. They started using the prospect of more jobs many AT&T has been so. Naked -- it. Political in this do that and act like there -- nations are so transparent it's almost embarrassing right -- in their initial filing they talked about how this would be so great firm Merck. And that would really doesn't strength than -- Merck. And has to be awesome for the economy in the immediate itself blatant right to the political pandering -- embarrassing and then before the DOD even filed suit. They said you know all. It's so great that eighteen T would be able to bring back. 5000 call center jobs to the United States that are currently outsourced to other countries so exciting and they say we don't anticipate any job losses mean -- like -- they. There's there's a clever as. Presidential candidate ever you know -- -- one of the hot button issue of the day and like you know we can fix that in fact if this merger goes through I'm just -- and Social Security would be guaranteed for probably another -- 100 no -- are sexes. And it's not until now. Cellphone bill and it will never raise taxes and I do I do kind of feel like DOJ it's just. Probably looking at them -- -- dollar lake has agreed. To grows and exactly -- C what about this merger makes it even remotely more likely that would they would bring back 5000 jobs like. They would spend billions of dollars on this -- how to how are they suddenly say money. What is in those 5000 jobs overseas in the first place and also shot up. -- -- -- your not a fan and I mean we've never been a fan of this now and that's the thing imminent -- DOJ read the tea leaves here -- know consumers and in this. It also gotta wonder what's the future. For T-Mobile if this doesn't go to ensure they get a three -- dollar payoff but. Deutsche Telekom T mobile's German parent company has already -- -- so they're not planning to invest in T-Mobile US anymore right so so does that leave it. Is it a day is -- a dead duck in a what's going to happen to T-Mobile. If even if they get this panel will have to see -- it will see if this you know when that happens or not. -- -- mean three million dollars indefinitely keep them afloat for a while a little may -- the press it would give them kind of a boost you -- they can definitely derive advertising but yeah I -- T-Mobile is in trouble before which is partly what sparked this. This -- -- interestingly T-Mobile has been a little quiet. -- -- -- -- -- -- Another -- not saying a word in any wonder if they sort of feel like it could go either way and maybe they'd be okay. I don't know when we'll see it and I didn't sound like no matter light into Telecom and try to sell them to somebody or -- -- But with three million dollars -- impact it may be charged that Deutsche -- like to eat just a tiny bit of -- -- are now march. A lot of that money did go to Catherine Zeta-Jones salaries -- -- that you know there are a little more fiscally responsible. They might have been and. Anyway mobile obviously keep following -- just like we homeland Disney. Did you slap on the at. I can and does not -- it's gonna -- are now getting in new call. And eases normally come in like a few they don't. Is that not one and its costs these surprising concern OK guys -- we talked about HP's touch pad and how they might think of bring it back but yesterday towards the end of -- -- HP made an official announcement on their blog. Almost like a Steve Jobs -- announcement but it wasn't called one more run although that's what it looks like they're doing. They are planning to bring back the -- -- from one last production run. In the wake of the -- -- is in a consumer interest. The -- so they're gonna have so I find this -- that was stunned and the sounds ugly. And I read it sounds like what because I received that you know I I had signed up on the site because I was on this -- that was trying to get one. Was left in the dust with signing on -- -- kind of excited so there's -- says that a limited supply are coming it'll be a few weeks before they're available. They'll know what they'll let us know more when they're available they will still be priced at those fire sell price point -- -- fairly not necessarily. Now they say that some -- -- -- the price the retailers will manage their own policies and processes regarding pricing pricing and price matching. Please contact the local retailer returns to -- with their current this -- some. Retailers will not price match or drop their prices and Edmond O oh you're seeing for that I thought I was under the impression that this is just gonna be distributed through HP's website right -- -- eighteen -- HP is still gonna sell for 99 and a hundred -- -- dollars yes and then but then they're kind of still leaving -- -- to retailers to do whatever they want they want and then by the way it's still gonna -- again. An -- over 31 is its gonna be like slightly revived a tiny bit for a little else but also still be a dead platform. Ultimately any year when they -- but they -- gonna deliver an update -- pretty soon firmware update is coming or the air for current HP touch -- -- that can improve it just for a year until -- Doritos and another year they might bring it back. I'm -- -- Heathrow terminal one I do or we can get -- I'll have an -- am definitely in and I've been I was religiously try to find out of the things on my vacation is kind of that yeah I watch your tweet Gabby that I was keeping people posted and people said they were able to score some based on -- Said attempts and failed attempts but it worked out I tenuous this craziness it's like. Crazy and we talked about component suppliers were left only the -- right now this is I feel like this is -- -- hey you know we still have. Maybe 150000. In the channel was his abilities -- get these out and somehow break -- they're losing money on the easy -- They're losing money but at least they're getting that they're probably making some manufacturers happy by getting the supplies out of at -- -- -- warehouses. Biaggi judgment -- -- touchpad such Iraq and story -- one early buzz and -- -- -- comes to the break up show three. Grier did soon and I. Well done and also. And why would they shipped to retailers exactly chat -- like I'd just. It is -- the Lazarus -- I am I was I was an impression that it was is going and HP website but I just me it sounds like they'll also be under heat -- Absolutely. Adorable this is. And by adorable I mean all -- seventeen in the articulates into and. An unknown number of -- -- this story continues -- it's like the endless summer. A great way I can actually wait to see this on VH one where they now. Let's take a quick break it sounds like some breaking news may be coming in and we're gonna check on that real quick and then when we come back we have some tax siding tablet news I think. The FaceBook patented that you will not believe. And the surprising power of -- -- -- they've they've combined fossil not seeing it's costly to -- it in front -- Stephen ancient. What He -- Who is also excellent. Worldwide baby worldwide. That -- but -- excellent and music service of some sort on September 22. Which lines directly up with the company's F eight conference. Seasonal -- is easier. -- they we don't know what service it could be if there is any spot a finding creation at least with the US version of FaceBook. We -- rolled it out in over in the UK and Europe but not over here in the US so we'll see if there are hints of that. Yeah exactly they say a dash of spotted may be some vibes to get some of their music thing that they -- -- -- -- But yeah that'll be that'll be interesting and and make -- but even more of a one stop -- against -- -- was and in fact FaceBook. Getting a major. Boost from the patent monkeys -- heat our favorite friends in their quest to become the only social network left on the Internet FaceBook has been granted a patent. For messaging. In an online social network. And or viewing private profiles. The patent. The official title -- -- does intend to -- together for the news part. The official title for patent number 80000101458. Is quote. A system and method for managing information flow between members of an online social network. Now the patent was filed. Four in May 2004. After -- -- about Friendster in its intellectual property. Now. 67. Years later it was granted in August 30 2011. So -- that could presumably. Retro actively try to shut down anything that appears to be a social network that allows messaging and the viewing a -- -- allow. Exactly -- those weird about that I said well exactly the same times -- downplayed that. I couldn't believe it was -- you have -- so amazing. -- -- -- -- Amends for any computer system for an online social network and manage for met a method for managing information exchanges between first and second members -- and the first member as a user profile. It includes multiple sets of personal information. And so on support. Providing a mini profile the first member to the third member was not connected to the first member that is like letting your friends' friends -- -- it's. -- fundamentals of the social network. That their patent agreements in -- -- to see. One -- set of and one member must be closely related to the member in question similarly -- now we're temperament messages to be sent between two members. If they're closely enough related Angeles forbid them if it's to do if the relation -- -- these are earth. The this is the fundamental physics and this is crazy so. And thanks thanks for the correction look like -- -- it's not retroactively from the point of issue and but they can now go after social networks that have sprung up. Obviously in the meantime since 2004 because you know which one now -- -- Miami -- -- bulletin that. Then let's see. And -- -- -- the bill ST says they do have a prior -- problem which I would hope would be true nevertheless why is the presumption that the patent is valid and then it's granted as opposed -- then you have to go improve prior -- shouldn't the prior art part of the discovery process and the patent granting. Monkey monkey monkey. And his donors can. Some remained -- will see what they do a bit of -- -- -- could just be I don't -- US kind of thing or they can. -- to grant out of this the next battlefront in a patent haulers social network patents -- patents are legal reform plea of Google's jumping on that circles thing she Merkel the objective is like -- gases and -- which Google. It's -- Google blocks. Our -- guys in more tablet news it seems like the interest and hyper and Amazon tablets continues to grow we get more stories bubbling every day Amazon according to digitize -- Will be mass -- -- ten point one inch version of their tablet. That'll happen in the first quarter of 2000 told fox electronics is according to -- times again. We are expecting Amazon to launch a seven inch tablet sometime in October. But this is kind of new news about how the really trying to blow this whole tablet thing now. Come on to it I'm literally like a kids get here -- wanna see it you want trying to -- the only time. Now and another -- that now we can get all excited about it and we love that and we like to burst your bubble later after eight. Amazon's also -- in a slick new version. Of their website in design with tablets in mind that you guys still are able to check out this article you schooled out. -- if they can take any cues from this tablet design of Amazon. They just need to roll it out to their full design moved to that thing He got it's it's really clean it uses a lot of white space you know you can shop by the departments but that's just looking at the layout. This is -- -- used to this and obviously they're doing this probably in anticipation of being able to feature their website with their new tablet device Andy's act -- doing all it all looks good. Other -- I -- pretty excited about that because earned them rolling out a friendly -- design in general -- I gotta say as much as I'd love Amazon Netflix still one of the worst website I've ever seen. There's just it's there's too much stuff find they can't control it's just that it's -- -- nature of the beast that they can clean up a little -- so this tablet version. Looks so yeah that was restricting that some -- and also I'm definitely -- this new Kindle feature that Amazon just unveiled it at it's called app author. And it lets readers asking questions of the authors while reading their books. Now this is pretty -- pretty genius now they do own the app author Twitter account. So -- the eve function is -- when you're reading maybe like a clone a book -- an excerpt from a but you'll highlighted and then directly -- At author with your keyboard and then -- and then share it what happens is that -- -- goes to Amazon's author pages they send it to the author. And then when the author decides to or can answer your question -- they obviously won't -- answer every one -- Daniel get a notification. From the -- And that is that's is. Sit and now especially as you see more and more -- is going direct to consumers that they self published in this way and they may be more accessible. But it it who knows who might get into I mean. Let's be clear. Amazon has lined up. If teen -- you initially participate. One but so I was gonna -- artists -- -- exactly and regulate -- a little -- but. -- its its La hunger games up the series game at their own thing you get like maybe three or four the key franchises. I mean that actually need for -- an -- with stuff totally love it and they by the way they have secured the app author Twitter account so. Right now if -- -- twitter.com slash author -- anything about that however there. I'm saying I am looking at the I did ice where -- patterns and an adding and adding -- For example some of the authors listed at the twitter.com slash author paid. -- or -- hunted computer and -- that is Brad Meltzer. And so some games -- a definitely heard of an -- and -- hopefully we'll just like increase pressure on them to -- to grow it. It's a like I like the idea that's innovation my friend -- innovation is exactly -- engaging with the authors also I do you like -- bio filter and the -- how about at editor. -- -- It's called out Hollywood grab Brian and -- on -- He beat you already have direct access. -- the deal world getting a little more cluttered and -- Yelp has decided to scale back in their own deals service because c'mon. How many emails you guys get -- deals every day. It's again a little -- -- -- -- about control so Yelp has decided that they're gonna be cutting the Yelp deal staffed by half. Yesterday -- -- this also remember FaceBook decided to kill their deals discount feature and you can Tennessee it's. It's a little saturated right now. I think this is fascinating I think this whole marketplace is fascinating because it seems like anybody who ought to have any -- have a slam dunk with this. What it was Yelp and with FaceBook -- -- Google and they're the guys are now pulling back and group on by all accounts. Is losing tons of money and just got an email about a company called -- apology. That is like. There -- -- back and company for online commerce. So mainly with -- like fulfill orders right or or provide sales or whatever. But they have a massive database of email just so they were like well we had this huge eat in. Database of email addresses from customers who buy things we're gonna turn that into -- -- service -- -- And -- making a ton of money on. So it's sort of like. It makes you wonder like who is in the business to do or who -- that business to do this past I would have -- -- but because they have a user base. I can understand my group on has trouble because -- cost them so much money to acquire a new user whereas -- your company like and you're sitting on a big chunk of email addresses you can be like and turn it on I -- -- I just I think the whole. It's so interesting that the business of -- deals thing and why so many companies are failing -- You know one of things is that we talked body with FaceBook is that. They didn't bring the deals platform to the forefront -- like Yelp although there may you know they're doing fine and who wouldn't want to increase their revenue. I didn't I I was bombarded by yelled deals on the wrapper anything like that bring -- functions still primarily stay the same they tried to play -- -- they yelled to steal things so. Again it's like we don't know what happened behind closed doors to get those deals are why they didn't put enough marketing dollars upfront to really push these services -- I could I would not say Yelp or FaceBook. Did it did get a job to let me know that they were there might be a solid camera group on and when social these other people I am hammered by the Green. So now I am -- and what makes me the other thing I wonder about is do I care. Where the deals come from is that these companies ran into as it did FaceBook think what we're FaceBook or Yelp thought -- Yelp -- you're gonna trust us more. Whereas we were like I don't care where the coupons come from as long as the coupons are good. I just I have kind of just. I don't know live -- -- -- -- like super interesting but anyway Yelp. Apparently deciding they can make it worth the network either -- the good thing is at the south that they cut will be -- re distributed through their company's so it's not like they completely. Acts these 2002 which is which is -- -- which that's -- anything. Or outsource some like AT&T sediment data than earth but that they might bring -- back of the deals thing works out. I'm sorry -- I aside clumsy opportunity -- a shot at AT&T and. As it isn't a little below the -- I heralded as they -- it it's -- -- -- that house. Oh my goodness friends' friends if you buy an HP touch bad this is people are asking me when they detachment came out why should I care and one -- the person I said it. What if they're able to get Android to run on what if so -- news out of this team. Cyan nodes in mod us antigen -- actually -- was just looked up -- -- -- up by Samsung but the team has now been able to boot. CM seven on the touch -- as of Friday. -- marketable that was passed by the way -- these -- they don't need to fired up yet they're still lot of work to be done. Before things are working smoothly in you can enjoy the colors are little bit off the touch screen doesn't work. Right now. As developers this part cracks me up in order to get everything working really well the developers need additional touchpad specifically they're looking for sport touch -- so it you can just that. I also for my happening. I'm I'm I'm hacking project I also looking for additional touchpad and then do I -- -- inedible items they might really geared. The one in the CNET labs disappear for some reason so yeah that's -- -- at all the and He -- and now I'm back up. They have this is just baby steps baby steps but in Bradley in the -- that He can boot Ubuntu on it actually -- that would be awesome. I would totally. Love to boot Ubuntu on my HD -- -- -- -- As power as a powerful tablet either the entities like. The -- you -- -- living that's cool that's cool. Firefox is also cool for Linux -- to the Mozilla mobile mobile team to say that they have finally brought Firefox to tablet. So they're showing off some of the cool interface and design of it including yes are awesome bar and theme mean this is -- be specific to tablets I think -- -- check it out. At this blog and showcasing what they're doing with -- company yeah this is really cool I don't. I don't know if it's launched yet though. I think we did it gathered to share additional ion engines I and I didn't think -- launch up now and I know a whole. Yeah the doors are -- regularly -- I seriously kids are really use safari on iPad I mean it's just -- -- -- there's a where there's some others. The percentage of US consumers who are planning to buy televisions. Has hit a record low according to U announces provider IHS which is that the I supply. Company they save that and a survey connected during the second quarter 2011 revealed that only 13%. And US consumers had not purchased a TV during the past quarter. Are planning to buy a new one during the next 312 months down sharply from -- 32%. In the first -- they say it's basically because of the economy. This is kind of this is kinda creepy because. At right now there's never been sounds silly but a better time price -- has been for these TVs you've gone to the point -- flat panels plasmas and LCDs. A pretty are pretty remarkable for the pricing from -- we saw two years ago. But because the economy people like no thanks I know I'm gonna do it. And everybody all party body -- -- for the digital switchover and -- Steve's I think people are kind of such enemy number you know. I think that there's not a compelling reason to upgrade if you bought an HDTV three or four years ago especially when you feel like you don't have. A grander 500 -- or whatever to drop on the so I'm sure that I'm sure that lead to TV manufacturers to really smart decisions like given up on all that 3-D crap cutting prices make in the -- now. -- -- The three is a built in add on now -- -- now -- it's a value add that happens a jacket the president likes 700 dollars. Not anymore actually cute but I like 400. Two months after the deadline for compliance. The Financial Times and Apple have been unable to come to compromise over the in app subscription payments. That have to go through the iTunes store Financial Times still not have -- it. So Apple has removed them I love that though -- Financial Times like you know what I'm not gonna change my app in fact. I'm gonna keep it exactly the way it is does leave it in -- and get me -- -- it's like a they're like the developers like -- we just got past month one. English. And -- and month to month to -- -- you guys we've almost at the -- one month. Sat down and sat down they say they are directing readers to -- Financial Times new web app. Available at -- dot FT dot com. -- -- joke literally strives. At least try I commend them mega platinum for land on the radar. And then it's been a long time since -- I answer a deserved it's old and jingle and this is this is beautiful and this one gets full on science -- treatment. Headline guys at hand the new. -- key to cheaper biofuels. We said -- a new study in middle American Chemical Society points the panda -- as a source of remarkably efficient enzyme producing bacteria. They're able to break down plant materials for cheaper and more efficient bio fuel production. And you know there's been a lot of investments going it's like corn fields and their use chemicals. That are trying to break down that and it costs a lot more but the natural enzymes in the end up -- And they're entitled to specifically planned an amazing I think what this is really get pandas are celebrating and rejoicing because. They just got an exceptional life up there that there are people -- people -- Democrats say what if we need them a reason for biofuel we are gonna be raising them in foreign neither approved we have arms and edit I it. This story is fascinating to me personally because of my hand theory -- do it without an update to it and I don't know -- but I impediment thing about pan Islamic friends and others. I don't think -- misery. Our online look -- you think their routers that are so adorable I -- I think every panda is indeed dependency to execute to be real. There they are dangerous because -- you -- a YouTube video that and -- that reaches indicated just like -- jostled this guy media like hard. Via the and the -- -- guy's jacket and real. Back back to the actual and what they are not Q ten -- are -- -- is not -- okay so in -- -- guys. This is this is why this and in this -- Done by research at the Memphis zoo a year samples indicated that pandas have the unique ability to convert. Like you know -- cellulose from plant material into energy -- 95. The base on the enzymes inside of panda -- They can divert 95% of the plant biomass into simple sugars and -- 5% that's monopoly just scooped up who brother around and you've got -- -- That's crazy. -- think I doubt we're gonna serve farming pandas they think they're more likely to try to reverse engineer it into some kind of a bio -- as opposed to like hopefully but you don't you still need you'll still need a heavy population to re engineer like. -- -- like the matrix pharma and as that farming means nothing at all -- to be naturally occurring this all of massive conspiracy to try to make us think that -- exist they just invented and more -- -- bio fuel and it's probably comes from some terrible source -- -- they're trying to pin it on Amazon and those are so -- He would never questioned. The actual source. Of this particular scientific -- you know it in honor of this story unaware my canister tomorrow. I'm normally -- usually can't -- that may you have been hired in the past that depend -- -- and everything -- -- -- -- real unless of the ones from panda express them with those guys are fake. They don't -- -- -- scenarios through your. Let's actually do. Paul first because we did -- we asked you for your thoughts about Netflix and a lot of you have -- including our first going to. Stripped bolt from governor interest. -- mine. It or it around this morning actually Easter break and go now. -- -- -- -- It bought sloppy work so it's the that the roadblocks. You sit -- groups. -- -- I wondered if He did that in public. Valid kiosks on and -- probably here in your car raise your hands up in the air but if the as a public thank you meet your CD GU -- junior. That's pretty cool though besides -- seen only got to love that. With a we're on an email the new president and that seems like camping He might get -- Yes for the first thing about specific kinds of offices it would be perfect like the red box solution we don't talk about as much -- the key is you have to be near one. And they're all over the place but every garrido 7-Eleven -- -- -- stores but it's still not. As easily accessible to get to for everybody -- you know. Yeah I read box solution is money and how He suggests the figure -- movie and went home and bring back on Monday or whatever might supermarket is literally twenty steps away from my Biller sites while in their -- and it's pretty pretty -- I'm definitely none of -- -- -- -- -- -- Your best ideas for what HP -- -- we put -- altogether -- -- -- it but she Dallas -- emails first and then we'll do this video voice element on the other HP. Says it's an -- So speaking of Netflix Don -- and into letting you guys know my choice. I might use Amazon's streaming but I'm certainly going to Netflix dvd because none of the streaming service has -- selection most of what I wanna watch our movies not TV. I get all the movies on dvd -- can only watch a few on streaming. And what is up but the selection -- watch the second of just about any series but not the first movie. Like I can watch basic instinct too but not basic instinct are cranked to which is crap. But not -- which is still crap but button. And -- -- -- and with that done let me tell your missing out his basic instinct was good. You are right onto the next human -- -- says a buzz drew in regards to Netflix I'm leaving. Three reasons one I sort of feel like they're taking the dog rather than -- it now with -- content owners they decided. Our customers love us let's just raise the price to really poorly handled. Yes number three I put my count on hold about three weeks ago because I wasn't sure what I was going to do. Haven't missed it I have a red box on the way home and one dollar and fifty cents to rent a new release Blu-ray is a great deal thanks guys mark. And Derek says it's the last day of combine streaming email dvd is -- not completely -- Netflix just switching to the streaming only plan. We watch out for a new -- release dvds a month so red box is the more cost effective way to guess that some like the majority of -- -- audience. Is switching to streaming only via but I I think a fair number of people Allegheny mountain that there were canceling -- Got one of that one of the things though people do need to know. When I know but red box for -- studios there also under the same 28 day delay window. -- for some of the studios' -- Osama studios said we'll give it to the same time others like Warner. Implemented this deal for the -- delay. So you know and what -- what -- happen. 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That's that's -- hardly prosperous. Thinking out -- densities it's okay we -- -- all this time than any other and we got -- it's Eagles hazy prognosis. Hapless performance. Hubris personified -- slowly palm slapping. And a hard pressed. I -- I think my favorites among them are heard -- Hubris personified perhaps the ability. Higher but it 00 has been and -- solid net and go at it. No other real line. Headed -- does Canada and that yeah that's what I'm pretty bomb -- -- -- along its -- stickers. And a high five in line. -- If I had to take Canada and then when her and panda improvement I -- up at. Least that's my personal. Our guys you can check out our show notes below that cnet.com continue please call us -- witnessing a hold AT&T Department of Justice T-Mobile. Happenings we wanna nearly you guys think about -- I think it's gonna go through our -- What He would you guys wanna know what -- you guys think and also buzz at cnet.com is our email 80616263. CNET you know computer -- coming on Friday. We always guarantees a little bit imaging and stuff and on time all the knowledge so I'm a citizen this this is well but otherwise it's gonna do then yeah we'll see customer OK -- -- some -- show oh yeah I think you do. Each chip and a service -- Beach -- or oral -- -- and its. Orbit means it. What works nice. HP Hewlett-Packard. -- Had AO PH. And and. HB. -- and production and -- brought. -- Blue. Load good -- line. HP stands for hot potato. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Now. That's out since Afghanistan's good stuff is definitely have to put those in the download maybe after music yeah hey -- -- the okay guys.