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Ep. 1533: Happy 8,000,000th patent!We celebrate the patent wars with Zynga while Google's stock gets downgraded. TV Studios think its a good idea to pull back their content on the Web and if you've ever faked a phone call on your cell phone, you're not the only one.
Today is Wednesday August 17 2011. My name is Steven -- -- I am Antuan Goodwin and I am Bryan song welcome to -- allows cnet's podcast. Of indeterminate -- today. Is Wednesday episode 1533. And ends one is in the house filling in. For ms. -- -- -- is still out what the sniffles you have an apples -- -- -- -- everybody's been -- everybody is -- it's like the seasons changing heard the fact that it's still warm here insert Cisco and then maybe it's because of all the contagion movies that are coming out. That could be idiots like people are just -- that sort of psychological sickness just watching it so and so on join us in the house today and we're gonna jump revenues in a first of all as I wanted to celebrate with you. National thrift shop day did you know as national their shopping development of shops. But in another celebration worth talking about the United States Patent and Trademark Office issued. They're eight millionth patent today it's at nearly eighty years for the first million -- to be issued in US. And as of yesterday the eight millionth patent. Was released so I'm if you if you take up to shillings this kind of shows some of the milestones and of course patent. Patent battles -- patent wars are everywhere we can't get away from them but one of the cool ones that I liked is that patent number six million. And if -- use a smart phone or a computer you guys might be familiar to some function like this. But it in the patent was for developing a means that with the press of a single button. A person could synchronize files -- on a computer with those found on another. That's -- cool and then patent number if we jump -- head to patent number eight million which was issued yesterday. Later in the day. It was for visual prosthesis apparatus that enhances visual perception for people who have gone blind due outer retinal degeneration cell. You its interest -- is the you know that that the six million with a cute as you mentioned with that in 1999. And then eight. A million was -- the last two million and in pal in the last ten years -- -- the patent. Process has been around for. This -- narrate and you wonder why it takes so long for some these -- state for passing a -- we've talked about the process of -- -- can -- completely bogged down and it takes years for these patents to be approved. But good about than any of that million in five years yet. A lot going on that and how many applications -- incentive that's that's -- -- so you know we wanted to celebrate. Eight million -- because. Just let. We have another -- story for you guys Zynga has been targeted in a patent infringement lawsuit. Now it kind of makes this chuckle and a because we dosing is known for making original game -- -- Lakeland are they suing themselves. I thought I regularly have of the decree is the same game with a different skin. -- is a different view of this is. Ads in -- in court -- mean or I can court gaming there when the new entrants into the social gaming sector. Finally of filing a lawsuit against Zynga for violating two of its patents now it's hands where they claim. They -- the foundational patents. Prior all the way back to 1996 that covers the processes. For credits that based -- -- mean. And this -- fun. And -- prize redemption system based on the out come of game play. Now if this is an electronic pad for that. Fine you know let go ahead -- -- one but the whole prize redemption system based on the outcome of game play remember that in my state fairs. -- treatment here's your goldfish when you put the ping pong ball legal fish and -- oppressed for every game yet they're they're typically is the point of -- game and that's a good. Prions might play game -- there's no prize items whenever beautifully monopoly and put real money on it. -- -- So or they get to the boardwalk and park place and enter those are huge fifty dollar -- -- and so -- court -- -- or ads in court I'm not exactly sure how to pronounce it the lawsuits filed in district court of Delaware. But I'm going after the big -- Zynga and I don't I'm not gonna say this is necessarily stifling innovation but Zynga is a big name. And we know how. They're just -- They're just making it -- -- any -- evaluation that eleven billion to -- impeding the next something bill from coming out like album there's both becoming out with with Brian Tong bill. Unrelenting and unlike is an unpopular as a -- that out I will not idyllic as well as -- little virtual brand around and farm. Far -- matter whatever to put pirated that you farm I mean I farmed -- -- my ancestors did. You didn't I did -- I have actually I have you know. Was little and priced at -- Apple's Apple product that relate Apple might built its business -- -- -- if people really -- one of -- that but anyways. But that's going on -- in the patent world and I will I can assure you guys that. The rest the show you'll not be -- -- Wear -- -- believe it or not. We can all celebrate we can alt so I can actually set a single tiered -- I think there's a voicemail about patents that. -- fielded a day. Also in other news on a couple weeks ago we talked about how content creators like fox Warner. Deciding on if they were gonna start pulling their content there's a debate about how because they have such a tight -- -- with cable operators. When their shows go on line the next day does that discourage people from watching them on their home TVs. -- you know. I I think you'll lot of times I'd watch episodes a day after on Hulu yeah so what they have decided to deal and it's on today it's been ticked off. This is what they're doing is fox is following through their plans to pool their content and only make it available on line. On the web for eight days. Now the only users I can get access to this the day after our paid subscribers for Hulu plus which is a a ten dollar per month service. Or direct our DISH Network but everyone else on regular Hulu on enough -- -- web sites they will not be able to watch their shows. Until eight days later. Let's see if things a little weird to me because think about the market. Of people who are watching the shoes online and it's -- it's basically people who would have DVR it. Philip people who care enough about it to what's on TV you're gonna tune in on the day. But the online streaming market of people -- mean you know in the after watchers are kind of people who probably -- DV -- it. And if people are gonna be skipping through ads anyway. So -- mean affiliate unity it's one of us -- you know -- week. Eight David -- we too long it will use arguments and you talked about our pre show how by the time eight days goes by this show -- -- gently giving you can't. You can mean they I can't think of the shoe on -- I watch but I mean like -- -- you'd like the example election of the -- doesn't make that link and maybe for example true blood. If they -- you know their -- -- if -- if for example that show was being streamed on Hulu. And they help -- you back eight days -- the blog post in all the buzz around it we can -- -- fan and I think though that's part of the strategy right. They want people to try and watch it. Go back to the days where we would only watch the show the day it came out before DVR is where everyone -- that -- water cooler it's changed available only -- it but it can't be there at that time that -- -- paradigm of like. You know can only 8 o'clock -- can watch the show is. I mean nothing else in their life is like that now our music not like that need not elect anymore are movies -- like that anymore. In our TV I mean was making moves towards not being like that -- -- -- this -- -- step in the wrong direction and feel like -- -- -- in the -- -- people. Who would've. You know cared enough about it to watch share one the first week in the and we you can get all that -- -- all the people who would be. Still interested in the show during the first week and on the online -- to itself for that -- minute they're not really enemy. But unfortunately they you know. For us they are right we know that they don't really care about us they just care about maintaining their relationships with. The distributors which is the cable networks and that's that's really their motivation behind -- also ABC. On his plan to follow suit and also do the same thing with some of their content. What's curious about the timing of them rolling out there. Webb pull back so to speak is that this is really this time of the season where people really feel it yet because. It's -- -- the blockbuster shows are coming out with new episodes right now some of Fox's you know. Should mean shows that are happening right now. Hell's kitchen master -- -- nothing like a house or -- -- the big shows that people really care about -- -- Family Guy these are. Marginal shows because it's not primetime season right now. But once you start going over to on the main season that's I think that's -- people are gonna feel a little odd and well let's cut it -- also -- -- to the story is modern family which has been a hugely successful show and I found out about it because some -- gotta watch it I couldn't see it -- so I watch it online. And on one of the creators. From. From -- modern family is seen if the show has shown success. Because of its. Marketing and because of its word about the because the online community is kind of embrace -- people have decided to watch online. His proposal is why not. She turned that faucet off completely to see if that online traffic actually motivates people to watch the show on TV. When it comes out which that hasn't -- We're not gonna show -- gambling online and all that yet that's what -- that it was his argument does an idea. Because they say based on the numbers. There's about two million people watching modern family on line -- They're not completely monetized. Because online advertising they're not getting nearly the same cut as they are. On watch when people are watching it on -- -- other tube they're TV -- -- at home. Based -- dislike the economics of it but his argument was like you know what we've shown success let's cut off Internet -- -- I -- like this and -- -- -- makes better sense to figure out of bill we'd better monetize. The online portion. Rather than crippling -- and you're right I mean it's like hey you know we've got these like. And -- flying machines coming out we don't want people to not take trains through instead of figuring out how much we should charge for a plane ticket. Let's just say you can only flying. -- at half speed to know. Are regularly -- that He can only play defeated you don't wanna -- to like now it's almost with a little doubt so it anyways guys just get ready for. The cable of the shows you're used to getting the day after on Hulu for free. That's not happening and unless you're a paid subscriber DirecTV or Hulu plus Danny may be that maybe -- -- -- the part of the -- and Allen's. It's given people reason to come up off at ten dollars. A month because I mean as it stands Hulu plus -- ten but that's an agreed deal to me. Now I know we we've -- we've -- -- -- not mean it up about that. Also in other news we've talked to the touch -- we sometimes beat up on the touchpad but -- more because you're disappointed. But at best buy according. To the Wall Street Journal all things. With HP report set to do their quarterly quarter earnings sometime later today. The touch -- sales are not so hot in fact one source who's looked at HP's -- report says or claims. Best buy has taken delivery of 270000. Touch pads so that's cell in -- but so far. Has managed only sell approximately. 25000. Units or less than 10% of -- units in its of the inventory now. This is also you could say this is kind of a charitable number because how many people actually ended up returning the touch pads meant getting something else. But now best buy -- sitting on the some maturing this happens in retail and best buy. Is unwilling to pay froehlich touch pads that is taking up all the space -- source and is trying to work out a deal -- HP to. Send some of these units back or cut a better deal for how much they're gonna be exposed from India finances -- -- on all all this inventory. Yet firm. -- to preach the ninety in the -- -- -- -- -- anybody involved in the fifth and HP recently started aggressively. Price -- in the touchpad because they haven't been able to take you know. I'm really get any traction and it started off at like 399 -- 349 -- now. We've been told there it's been seen that it's been selling another place to 99 -- CD -- -- which of pursuits indeed -- which is the sweet spot. But -- not know He did offer HB. Let you know it. Web less we like it so HP's likable where else can we get level as we do with it what else -- you know we haven't been successful. The pre hasn't really taken off still the -- palm's webos. The tablet hasn't worked but you know at this. This could be -- -- what if we try to partner with. Consumer electronics appliances. And cars. -- webos there maybe that's what will pick up and that's why it according to another article in the journal says. That -- webos head Stephen DeWitt so there's plenty of interest in their thinking seriously about integrated webos into these other of its its. Leaving about webos on a car. It's interesting I mean men in the whole concept of -- anyway if in -- car when filling the move now -- towards. Off -- a lot of functionality to the phone itself. The little weird. I mean -- -- -- -- could work if the pretty intuitive operating system I mean they have had to be kind of reject her quite a bit to be useful at speed packet right now this -- -- -- I'm not mistaken there's a lot of sliding. Around of a virtual card than. All the cards with different and I mean the thing about an in car environment is the more a light each of the screens looks. The more muscle memory you have -- like where the Cleveland going to be and then into that would be something that would have to be addressed. Now with a list. On primer for generator on the other hand might be kind of mentality Dover Delaware if these -- virtual -- These like different cards to sliding around would if they really virtual magnet and someone would have to do list and one of them -- -- email and that would be interest and -- I'm there with the ailment -- -- -- this is this is nothing is happening right now this is just. -- of what the thing you but really they need to solidify their mobile business before -- -- in -- appliances in any there. You could argue that. I don't know lol if everyone still is ready yet to be like I'm gonna get this refrigerator because it has a touch a webos interface. I mean that's not to be a differentiator from -- a -- in the of the whole licensing thing. Because as I understand correctly -- mean -- to open source and kind of regal license so mean if someone gonna pick in the west. You know build the refrigerator around it probably. So we'll see if we think I deserve Madrid will see guys also I'm just an update to some of the market reaction between the Google and Motorola deal. S&P downgraded. Yesterday. They're stock to a sell from a buy Google stock from a seldom buy lowered the price -- of 500 dollars from 700. Dollars. And this is really you know they're they're -- the greater -- the company's stock. -- -- the margins from on how it's gonna affect the growth of Google's businesses and how would negatively impact them so the market. They're not they're not so hot on the deal -- front when it comes to the bottom line of Google and mrs. this is standard importers. Downgrade in their recommendation now. I mean it's coo of pending give enough Smith in -- to the cost that much money around the kind of like we're Google -- who don't think. -- -- -- if it's a bit reckless in some people's minds in the in and I guess with the market kind of -- -- freed. As it has been over the last couple. Years. -- it fits in of that sort of late cavalier attitude towards the cost and money around. In general I'm sure its L lot of people like -- -- yup yup. Just to make it clear they downgrade they downgraded it. To a cell from a buy not from up from may. From a buy to a cell they said -- they downgrade their -- valuation to sell yet to buy some like isn't. Isn't from buying from a sell an upgrade might not -- -- they went -- to dump it -- so on the day go numbers outside and from a 700 to 500 dollar. Target that's -- that's a big to big huge that's a big -- -- are right guys -- gonna take a little break here but when we come back. We'll talk about. Apple's campus -- eagle circles space UFO thing looking to be bigger than the Pentagon. Also you guys feel socially awkward and gonna -- the cellphone called. You're not the only one. -- want. This thing what are. On fox. Or -- you. It is off zone is just too often and it's a -- -- In the main thing that most awesome loss often it's weird our audience audio in the housing and out there's also Stephen beat him her readiness of the show. We gonna go back does get back the stories and get ready guys are little mini Apple blocked. But -- phone users in South Korea. Decided to sue Apple for collecting data without the consent -- this dates back to the whole. Location data harvesting where Apple was a roughly collect -- And the story in your information of where you've been located. A little while ago and individuals sued Apple and was rewarded one million wine which is equal to about 930 US dollars in damages. But now 27000. People. Or join a class action lawsuit against Apple's South Korean unit. For that same -- -- for those individuals. For each you know looking for that 1000001 now. Apple's -- by South Korea's telecommunications regulator on August 3 and ordered to encrypt location data. Of people using their iphones to address those privacy concerns. But looks like everyone now is jumping on board to you know. -- fair enough to get their slice the -- Yeah and -- it is that works out to be lot of money almost when ten million dollar gap that that's a lot -- -- So you know at South Korea and also -- one of the articles that said. You know where you're wondering -- why don't why haven't -- some people here in the US have aggressively. The individuals have pursued that. But specific to South Korean law. That is one of the reasons why they're able to push this through and also the courts have been looking at it. And that you know. It's a little higher priority for them maybe they don't have as many things going on over there are not not -- and they don't have anything going on but it's a higher priority for -- -- But we haven't seen any rulings for individual lawsuits here in the US a regarding the iPhone location data now all other rumblings. This is another rumor -- story but. -- source of her are clobbering in this and putting this together that Apple. If you're looking for that save the date on your calendar Apple's currently -- to start their pre orders for the next iPhone. On September 30. Was -- launch on October 7 this is first reported by TI PV as well as nine to five Mac lenient towards now and October release self. Take out however you wanna take it but can become in October. At this point it'll be out before the -- plan. Printed them that's -- what is stolen all the what is going knowledge that -- that the bank will never come out. I. Well lately it's -- -- -- -- to worried it's becoming infant January's. And now we're just now getting leaked specs. There's naturally do -- well with -- to be. Like last month -- really the -- -- let you know the iPhone four the F five in this point you know it. Louis post of come out this summer you know -- -- and if people are getting a little bit and no wonder what that. The reason for holding it back was. Well you can always blame it on if you don't know just blame relic of the supply -- via. To make him a star like. We know we did have these parts that's -- but in I don't. Whatever comes out comes out it's we've heard so much about someone's gonna wait for an official whatever it is it'll -- million meaning in medical. Steve does it'll it'll have a special magic dust coming -- Movielink and deregulate and I really want when the news. In an -- remember that. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Also on some cool stuff we like when those cities Trout test pilots with technology. Drivers may soon be able to use their phones as meters instead of actually speeding -- physical -- New York City is -- a test a new pay by phone parking meters. That will warn motorists as the time winds down allow -- use your phone. To buy extra minutes without returning to their cars so the coming months nearly 300 spots are gonna be equipped to this new technology. Already used in Atlanta and Washington and this'll be a one year pilot program. According to the requests for the proposals yesterday. On in New York City as well so Oregon is -- be looking after you install religious into -- as the mass in the new estimates -- in the news automatically. And I think ideally you'd have to be gained by using card pain in the first place yet it's gonna be they say it's going to be -- one time registration online and you'll use an app or. You both options either now or text message because it's -- like every. Believe it or not everyone does not a Smartphone has apps not -- -- and Ireland so you'll be able to use it through the app or via text message and then you'll be able to. I don't know how exactly this the -- it's -- like we actually had her hands on it but you'll be able to that set the time or amount of time that you wish to purchase and -- -- that. And then you'll be using your credit card. I would features of its by text message. You would register through a site it's going to text message -- That might add more timing is respond Y for yes and it on -- power to regulate hey you Julie and -- -- -- ages why respond. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- all of our friends here. In New York City also and the Atlanta -- -- a -- you guys actually use these. I know that. We've got a Little John Strickland in the chat room but have you guys ever used this and upper have been able to experience and I'm I'm curious to see how well -- -- you guys have. Send us an email alert to the voice called -- How useful it's actually news. -- like it okay army and other stories regarding our cell phones. And if you're actually using them -- -- a new survey by the Pew Research Center. -- serving more than 2000 US adults about their self polices habits have found that almost a third. Of -- twenty some themes that are walking around. On their cell phones are just pretending have to use their cell phone. Perhaps in -- -- you now when expanded cell phone owners of all ages. Only 13% pretended it. To be on their phone. And according to -- thirty -- 30% of the surveys between ages server survey respondents between the ages of eight and -- when He Knight said they would use their phone -- interacting with people. Around -- at some point in the last thirty days. Have used. I've I don't. Speak phone calls but I will look at my phone like I'm just not to zone -- -- the only treatment and a firewire and things that I. -- That seems so weird I. I mean that. You know what's funny is. I'll admit that I have done that have been on both sides of that where I've I've complained about people who will make eye contact with those around them because they're so -- for their phones have been. There have also been ten from just like -- a -- be bothered. And just bury myself in my phone and I'm not necessarily mean do anything but swiping around me youth of the iphone's headphones or did do you thing yeah yeah -- I had to elect -- -- -- earbuds that aren't necessarily connected in neat thing is displayed at. Detailed -- it was -- in my pocket I think there's a lot of I actually think there's a lot of worst offenses here. One of the worst offenses wearing your Bluetooth headset when there's no -- to talk to. You indicate that -- absolute worst -- when in a movie theater and Lieberman asked if you with a flashing blue light that some just throw out a Little League stats and it. If you don't need that you wouldn't. Here at -- also I still can't get over the guy talking like he's talking. Without any phone on it and like express seem like he's talking an invisible person and what you don't but they're still might not the only universe this right here. When people talk over its bottles and Havana and not told her that I had to go down here -- put the phone to your ear dude or use the speakerphone in an office flicker somewhere -- don't just walk around on speaker phone talking to hold talks a phone I see that on -- all the time you just -- -- -- -- -- RA some other and for informational tidbits from this survey. Talking about more than 51% of -- -- -- itself on the information they needed right away 40% is an emergency situation. 84% access the Internet bubble about when and one of the most -- -- Stats the pew research reports that 42% of those surveyed. Said they had trouble do -- mean something when they did not have a phone handy. I can really -- can relate -- that. I really like I had trouble sometimes I have trouble sending email. When I don't have my phone. Haven't like had child. That was based on data -- go in there and it's been five dollar and edit it Internet there was it's at which the service that had trouble functioning in its. It's it's manager. RI it also on the looked Aaliyah what are we going let's -- it -- its redundant duplicate packet. Not bad. -- -- AT&T fans LTE device launch states are here. This was -- announced yesterday after show the momentum for G and that elevate forge your coming on August when He first. These are LTE hotspots. One to USB connector for your laptop and computer the other one is a physical hot spot. The unfortunate thing is if you didn't know already -- AT&T has yet to roll out their LTE -- work. It's coming soon so. On little on date of purchase it looks like you'll have LT hot spot that is -- -- interest and it's -- just put in your collided just -- in dangerous weed out the day in and flip it online collection of the future also Amazon -- -- secure cloud. A service further government for government government services in government entities -- cloud service provider Amazon's web services announced this. That'll be designed to -- US government agencies and contractors. To move more sense of work loads into the cloud. This is. Amazon's web services is huge. Like it's been a successful arm of their business and a lot of people may not think of Amazon for you know web support and web services but. Let's Begin hosting the all like a -- a -- of my friends that are you know with their startups like -- -- Amazon web services for -- so. -- there are now -- degrading -- offering a cloud service for a government agencies which is a cool thing is well. On another quick hits we do know that -- com. Is going it is happening over in Germany and there's a few hardware announcements that would be relevant to our listeners. The Wii is -- to get in to redesigned with a streamlined hardware set up for Europe this year. Nintendo does have no plans to bring its stateside. But it looks like it'll be a revamped. Horizontally -- -- -- EM but -- wondering like how can you make it more streamlined is -- like percent of small -- again. But then it got the gamecube controller ports that you can lose the memory card slot that can probably shrink down I don't wanna lose the game cute cube controller and -- -- and -- that. Well then don't just think that well and it's a good thing you're not in Europe -- because this is at least up to now it'll only affect your itself. The Wii is gain a little facelift and redesign also for those you who have yet. To purchase the Sony PS3. Loving this is a good regional not not a good reason spent 250 dollars breadth Sony -- decided to price cut. The current players PS3 160 gig from -- to 99 US dollar price point to 249. Also the a 320 model dropped from 34929. And down that's gonna be do you see I I would say if you have not purchase a PS3. Only a few months away -- -- to -- and anti about this. Wait for the Black Friday deals yet because you gonna be able to -- for 200 if you pay that much less for Sony to lose personally from patients. To deal but it's now back at Iowa million dollar insurance and Internet. Our right arm and finally a story that people have been its. Send -- an hour away and -- -- what the heck is going on over at CNET. Two men were face new charges in a CNET scandal in east -- narcotics officer and private investigator. -- ten counts of selling meth and marijuana. They're part of the Contra cost the Contra Costa narcotics enforcement team -- also stands for CNET -- I was I've never seen again on the phone with a never seen him at a mechanisms. I have them itself. But if you like what is going on on -- you guys on this is ridiculous. Contra Costa narcotics enforcement in a little bit at. Not -- -- going on over there okay guys. -- -- -- -- talking illicitly guys -- say let's hit up our feedback. Our good friend Brandon from Ohio has a little message for us and everyone else out there who. Calls themselves -- patents. And other Brandon from Ohio with a microphone to -- what all the tech pundits -- -- -- We've griped about Google fragmentation in the include market and I get that aggregate content people want the biggest that didn't and that's. While I wanna. What they don't do that Apple would constantly pop culture because they are they believe developers -- -- other businesses that don't like their content. Your cash cow that we -- -- a chance to extort an extra point opt out of view and it will. And the only complaint about the lack of apps for Blackberry Windows Phone 7 in a question why would they develop apps for. Nobody gonna buy it won't wind up buying an iPhone because it's hurting. Subsequently used you can't just stay with the guide on how pretty it is you can't let him -- you program. He can't just say you want competition can't charge you have to actually run with the little guy if you like wondering where the local grocer and while standing -- partner Wal-Mart. But of the -- -- Wal-Mart does have great prizes. Then times -- I don't go to wall art Palomar is a move benefit from this but I -- but I rarely have rarely -- until Wal-Mart as I do I that's a good point though He says like support the little guy. But is different when you're buying like groceries -- finally get 300 dollars mark. I suppose I mean it. It and -- listing -- -- sometimes the renewal and I ably with a phone that investment with a two year contract. You know sometimes getting -- board -- from the -- If it proven. Navigating not a good idea that -- and a white people look for review sites like CNET if it goes -- and amp. At a fifth wheel and saying they want to make the infamous for their many -- -- -- -- you know you could get with a little guy and -- -- Any -- -- you don't wanna be stuck with a cracked car you know inflate it -- sure you can inserted general kind of like small boutique. Car -- that'll -- -- a caller for the right price but I mean He really wanna deal with that or do you wanna get when He played the. Yeah I -- the current reports that the wheel that lets you know whenever I am actually curious about what's the latest going on in -- -- -- always go to a car tech with -- Addictive. I know the -- Can't campaign and I -- back. But I I do agree it's. If you don't wanna be if your angry at the you know I guess the leader and you wanna sports on the different than that your every right and that's -- -- a lot of people not only I don't think people actually. Old guard -- ism vocal majority are vocal group of people who don't use Apple products because. There they're sick of how Apple runs things and they support they Android community because. Not only from a features I've -- just the philosophy of the company's certain you have people -- in that time is different people -- for different -- but the thing is that. The vast majority of defects and people just want stuff to work exactly wanted to do with they wanted to do and but the problem is that 50% on either end. Is allowed -- group and -- the -- majority there's a squeaky wheels I think. At and that over time like the hacking community injury there was this like owned the -- at the -- Your mom doesn't care -- that's -- to make -- call. It's true it's true a picnic you know are doable rate -- -- -- from Al fund growth as well I think you guys should know about this on a huge football banner. -- as -- solid in the United States. I've followed the English and Spanish -- likely Premier League and Little -- very closely. And in a FaceBook account because I think that -- -- today but this may tend to be enough to get one here is a link to. -- an article about the FA cup being streamed first on FaceBook. That's pretty cool if they keep streaming events. That I can't see anywhere else and meet its cable and get a FaceBook account but I hope this encourages -- plus. The follow suit love the show -- under a sunny and have to make a decision. Deal with the big -- support the little. -- -- -- -- -- -- The BIB in the cable network will again be FaceBook in the beginning FaceBook in the lonely guy Ian -- little diving to blast -- even though they don't efforts in. My number to support Google -- the in the even -- they don't show this show reason why wanna even would even consider going to social ports is about -- I'll Scully stick to the -- and -- occur when there were all right Mary got. So when Joseph from Alex from Ottawa Canada -- buzz drew as awful and in heating as this and storm has been acting -- simply -- that it -- -- single out Apple. Vs -- it's easy dismiss any and all the spam lawsuits but there are some. Which may in fact have some merit ever since the article started appearing around April showing comparative photos of the -- -- galaxy S. -- the iPhone three yes my opinion has been that Apple actually has a point with this one. The two lines of devices are so similar that it's hard to believe that the galaxy line was truly designed originally from the ground up by Samsung. What's even more funny is the fact that sense and has carved for themselves and identity as a kind of anti Apple lines and yet. No other competitor draws more inspiration. Was just -- that from the wireless devices than the galaxy line so which is it. Anti Apple or -- Pseudo Apple Alex insulin notes in the Toledo -- Anyways all this is to illustrate the point that while the vast majority of -- lawsuits are pointless task adds nothing more. We can't deny the validity of at least the small handful claims. While the notion of blocking sales to Europe may be a bit extreme Samsung needs admit. That it drew -- be a bit too much inspiration from the atlas devices so can finally put this issue arrest. On a like an email it -- lot of good points though that's slower read video excellent -- -- -- and flipped it via but He we we did. I think as the panel hours of piled on the hours some of these -- basis but I remember what we talked about the first iPhone to be just like dude those. They really look exactly alike. Those two phones there's no doubt about that. A right do you wanna read this email Stephen new year you get -- that the idea. -- while there's a ton of hype surrounding the new iPhone I'm wondering about what Apple -- with iPod. I hope that they have some special some time. I hope they would hosts some special events surrounding the tenth birthday of the iPod so. -- November 10 2001. Was the first iPod release. 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