Ep. 1438: Microsoft and the crushing anvils of irony
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Microsoft ignoring the crushing and -- of irony falling all around it has filed.
A formal antitrust complaint in Europe against Google.
Claiming that Google is engaging in monopoly stick behavior such as.
Limiting access to some of its data from YouTube and other services yes settlement of one of its reasoning is the fact that they're trying to.
Robust YouTube application but -- Google.
Has blocked the data or all the data that they -- use to optimize that app and make it the best app that they can make it up.
And that's one of the reasons that -- complain about this Microsoft said it was the first time -- ever filed an -- right antitrust complaint.
Against a rival now pretty interesting they're definitely stepped it up against Google -- it not necessarily.
By building better product -- but the app by suing them.
It is interesting -- -- -- guess we'll see it kind of one of those where it feels like do you really want attempt karma that way.
But that Google followed up and said that one of their subsidiaries when a Microsoft subsidiary.
Was the original complainant against them and had filed the original -- tested against them so.
Google that basically it's no surprise -- for our part we continue to discuss the case with the European commission and we're happy to explain and when how our business worked.
Yeah and just a little history about this there was an ongoing antitrust investigation. Back in November I think during our prediction shall we all basically said that.
Google would go -- and -- trust.
Over in Europe yet so now Microsoft is actually at least filed a formal complaint.
They are -- day -- you know it it's not a case yet but it's moving in that direction absolutely.
Well and and the European antitrust division is obviously as we know.
The most very hard core area and most aggressive thank you and Microsoft knows that better than anyone and -- I think they're just trying to -- -- -- the -- here.
And -- get it get it into action.
Sooner than later and -- and as to the -- as to the substance of the complaint we have no right.
-- in -- certainly Google and it is.
Huge and has unquestioned search market dominant than a lot of control over a lot of content.
Other than that we have no idea about Microsoft there is a really long blog posts. At.
Blogs that tech tech net dot com or Microsoft is talking about how they're adding their voice it can be a hard argument those concerned Google establish themselves as.
I think they said something around.
Nine -- for by percent of searches done through them over in the UK and when you've established -- as the two giant how much information you actually have to share --
I know well there's a question right I mean.
Are if they're not a monopoly then they have no legal requirement had to do anything that would damage their business. But I think -- not to turn this thing like let you have.
Far and away the search market.
And so what you can't I mean that the interesting allegation to me is them saying that their restricting competing search engines from properly indexing YouTube.
Yes it has nothing to search engine as well yeah I mean if that's the case that is actually.
That body -- of monopoly and their answer that question --
They say that in 2010 and more recently Google blocked Microsoft's new windows phones from operating properly with YouTube.
They also say that Google is seeking to block access to content owned by book publishers that there trying to bring that Google and book publishers settlement Intuit -- -- their -- and he came to maintain power over digital book in to archives to.
Wealthy will -- getting a pretty to --
All I need -- she and speaking of Google business week today has a really interesting article about how.
Google may be cracking down on.
-- -- -- --
We've known and we talked about the fragmentation but now Google's looks like.
They're taken an active stance in trying to resolve this but it doesn't mean that it's really in the best interest of developers so Andy Rubin.
He's kind of the face and head of Google's Android group. -- been reports now that they have been reaching out.
To major carriers and device manufacturers essentially telling them that.
They won't have free rein to tweak the software button and in a lot of cases we've seen how certain manufactures.
Lock in and essentially build a partnership with Google and Android.
Have been able to get devices out with earlier or more recent versions of the OS but now Google's really trying to narrow that down -- that stream.
And essentially have people on board with a product that Google is now back in in the whole identity of open.
It was a nice idea and message -- but clearly cool is -- things and.
Yeah and we've actually I mean I have specifically called for Google to do that you know I am all for the Catholic if they.
If they're gonna maintain the lead of beginning keep Android reputation intact they they do have to do this to a certain extent abdicate control.
Of what the developers are doing -- and not just the developers but the licensees but partly what he's saying is.
There they -- demanding now that Google get the final say on how. The licensees can tweak Android code including new interfaces and adding services.
So hopefully they'll they can put a stop -- some of the more extreme.
UI overlay moto blur moto blur mounties or at the Samsung when I think it's terrible -- TouchWiz.
How does -- think the sense UI from ACC is really the best.
Other additional skin outside -- Android via.
-- it it did justice.
Exactly. But apparently obviously -- licensees now are not happy FaceBook for example is unhappy that Google has to review Facebook's tweaks Android.
Android and then apparently according to a person with knowledge of the matter.
That there have been gripes to the Justice Department over the I'm not actually ridiculously Google giving -- an operating system corporate greed they can put on your phone.
And they just want to make sure that it's it's an okay experience that really.
Yet you also see other examples. Dell and Acer so their hardware makers that.
Pretty much have not really jumped on board with the -- of the boys club of let's followed by Android rules and a lot of their devices.
Are getting the operating systems later who they are launching with of the freshest stuff.
And -- behind the curve so if you don't wanna be part of you know the the circle of trust him.
Within Google -- you're going to pay for it in the temporal by not in the most recent updates and being behind the curve.
And we know in this market you can't do that -- I like there is a reason why Motorola right now.
At the moment is the only tablet with an incumbent there are still plenty of manufacturers that we're saying we don't even have funny don't it can at CES because Motorola's -- -- --
But other people like it is -- and other company said yeah it will come with honeycomb but they've never even had their hands on it -- they were able to use and on the devices.
And sure enough we have not seen those products so far we have seen how that has affected the market overall.
But you and you have to ask yourself what do you know what are they gonna do what -- in your windows phone seven it's not like Microsoft has unrestricted licensing.
Agreements and may charge a lot of money I -- it yet it's.
I I -- Google's walking a fine line I think of course but the partners licensees would rather do whatever they want and load up their phones with crap where Samsung but.
Frankly I mean good for Google over saying you know -- -- I don't want people to start associating. Android with that.
BS Samsung Mac app that you can't get rid of the -- -- life.
Gasoline the experience the user experience is one of the biggest things people that might even be flirting with the idea of Android.
That are on wireless devices the readied at ten -- grow up and do other things.
Then there are there justice can be as a light weight like this phone that on how to what am I gonna get updates ranked from the carriers in time how does this all work as one as a.
Actually that's totally the part that that's the follow on that I -- -- see this like okay.
I'm glad to Google that -- trying to take keep fragmentation to a minimum like -- from a Samsung phone to a Motorola phone and I shouldn't have a huge learning curve when they're both Android.
But I also want to -- then the follow on about what they're gonna do with Kerry because carriers are just as responsible for crap where.
And I -- other user experiences like rolling out updates.
And I that's where I really want them to -- --
Fight so that that's why should they can never the experience to just clean it up some and now does have that little extra touch on it.
But it'll it'll be in the best interest obviously play a note that doesn't get on the get totally evil thing to say about -- -- -- -- you know they're losing more open cred as Google fight fragmentation.
To be honest at this point I don't think Google is worried about like -- been the open source to be happy.
We don't -- -- we need itself then the only way we're gonna keep doing that if you meant to operate with platelet business.
And let's not -- the fact that Google's Android offerings them.
Exploded have like 9% -- jumped at thirty or something like that gap just in within a year or so yes so there you know they know now that if they have these phones and they want people to keep them and stay in the Android.
Community and it ecosystem and as they build it.
And keep continued growth so this is.
This is the right thing to do and as a none of it to be a surprise to anyone in the article did suggest by the latest pulled that a boy genius report that Google may have tried to delay the release of Verizon Wireless standard devices that ship with the Bing experience -- -- --
Which is that existing development -- my big complaints about Samsung phones mean it's allowed.
You know it's allowed in under an open operating system but it isn't.
Computer. And that's where that's where it like it's a little touchy when -- about brands and certain.
While the third thing I think is a big deal the searching is where people's -- to complain to the Justice Department where they ate up their transcendent we don't -- that people are.
Which nobody -- being as the default search on a mobile phone would agree but they're gonna have to release.
Offer it as an option Hampshire.
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One example of their crackdown apparently is that Google has -- has yanked a PlayStation emulator from the Android market the developer is claiming that the program is being targeted.
Due to the upcoming release of the PlayStation phone.
But Google says that it was a content policy violation.
Yet has -- -- -- about this and also we talk about.
Partnerships and how these companies may or may not be in bed or developing relationships or -- the the crux of this app is that it is an emulator.
Which sure -- someone with -- that means you can get a legal games and port them onto your device and play them.
The trick here though is that under all the conditions of what an app from Google's Android marketplace can be kicked out for.
The emulator itself is not -- legal -- it they don't offer the games with it.
It does allow its.
It's a -- and there's other simulators they also went on article that are still out there that are PS one emulator system so this guys like why am I the one being targeted.
There's others here sure -- -- that he's feeling because the Ericsson next replay that can play PS Williams there but then the day his app doesn't violate any of the rules.
-- that he says sorry anyway I don't know for sure is doesn't -- yeah you have an angry developers -- -- -- to -- I mean no mere creature of whatever you're getting into it manually management of outer columns that's tricky but when you're getting into emulation and -- that the really grey area in a lot of ways and I would.
I mean -- as saying you know the charges that Google is manipulating the market in order to create a better environment for -- -- -- games are serious and troubling.
-- okay share but those are the arguments of a developer.
And we haven't seen as Apple you know noted that up and down like an archenemy Google -- understand.
I would I would hesitate I would be very careful r.'s technical before or anybody before if you like accusing Google of just trying to create an environment for Sony when -- --
Yeah one thing that we have seen those that Google is definitely.
As of late been actively taking down apps that whether they were.
You know malware apps.
Or apps that they -- in favor of they have been doing that lately gap and -- -- -- take people off of -- -- -- is now.
-- never got comfortable really when it -- -- cancer not fun now but it always happens you know like when.
When the web bust happened in all the free site started charging an Indian -- isn't it how when when business gets involved.
Things get a little less fun and comfortable for consumers and currently.
Other things that Google is doing Google is apparently. -- exact.
Many competing with --
Like a little tiny bit or at least the like button like a little bit is so this is Google's answer to -- like -- and it's called of applause line.
So essentially this is gonna appear in your search results and in articles online in a way it'll allow you do is click on it.
Two pending dividend it's almost like a thumbs up with Google and the like but it's -- by.
It compromised the of like a dig at its -- a -- it's notably Google update for Google.
So essentially you'd I said the sense that -- mean to say that -- you do now if you have this during.
You have this by and that has plus -- your friends that are in your social graph can then see that so when they search if you are all connected.
They can see the ranking that you put in there also in search page ranks this plus one notification.
Will help to show you may be what everyone is clicking that and looking at the thing that I am I'm curious about is that.
Currently the plus one little page rank and Digg button like -- whatever you wanna call it the -- is.
Is only beneficial. For for two things.
Google's data exactly Google's data exactly. Google's paid drink it also you can what's odd as you can plus one the Google ads on the side.
Which is advantageous do.
Google's data for advertisers exactly.
And it it's when you see a plus -- this is not these are linked to your -- -- -- Twitter feeds greatly everyone that likes things or whatever.
-- -- puts a little treatment.
Those go to your -- to -- this -- only in the global buzz social graph on -- social graph which which now has not -- any moment and at all.
And so from a social standpoint this is not gonna take off at least from a social standpoint.
Ray I mean this is -- in no way should this be framed really. A true.
Social network any more than the FaceBook like button should be framed as something that's just for you in your front -- it's all about data creation and data gathering.
And in this -- it absolutely.
Benefits Google in the most direct way possible.
Because that helps them because -- start helping them tweak their algorithm in a completely.
Transparent and -- them away so right now they have to use your clicked.
To try to -- to try to measure the accuracy of their search algorithm how relevant is it.
Based on who clicks on one right but now they have a way for you'll you to literally say he noted is its not plus -- is at a boy I'd like you don't at a bar.
And that's exactly what -- allotted thanks for that.
It will help filter -- and people -- Chalmers says it will help filter some of the crap.
Results surgical that you really don't care about right if you take the time and to plus one before you actually click on the article yes the other thing.
It's a behavioral thing do -- wanna plus one before actually click on an article that I then have to go to.
And out and an alert are the button only on the search -- to -- -- weird yes the -- on the search results and they're working with partnerships with web sites to -- -- -- the tweet and the like but that pretty -- there's gonna be like a tweet and alike license manage share this and then like a film.
-- -- -- --
I mean it's exhausting but but I've been saying that's all you're logging in and a little bit last year that recommendations.
Are absolutely the new web battleground because that's the easiest way and most lucrative way -- companies that are really in the business.
Of cure rating recommendations. Are.
Raking in money and I talk to a BC guy who was like look.
Share this is one of them you know the biggest secrets in the tech industry because they are making.
Money hand over fist because recommendations are such a direct connection.
To the user and that you can -- it at that data so easily and in garlic pharmaceutical company and be like you know -- -- -- pregnant women are really in --
This particular him -- or whatever because of the lights on and then tumbled on from the -- --
And it and and Google is would be idiotic.
To stay out of this business and it's very clever to frame it as a social movement it's really not.
It's about a data collection the fact that they're putting it not only on their search results but also on their Google ads.
It's about data yet.
Italy think the plus one thing it's kind of lame raised initially -- -- better -- -- really dirty and it's --
You know like -- it's still Google -- just like code --
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I'm not believe me I have done that I've made that joke and I -- Michael plus one for you.
Actually encoded at it lets viewers nerd points they -- made her point or it could've been plus plus and that expert hindered.
Late voters out -- know exactly in the united.
But hinders human.
I apologize to you guys that do -- story and link before anything can now into the studio but there's an interesting story in the Wall Street Journal today.
He was saying before the show that -- -- all these stories about Google and China.
And then finally one good wrap up appeared.
Which is the journal saying that a year after basically its its like looking back it many years and Google moved its search services out of China.
And and although the they've they have faired better than the most sort of dire predictions. They are definitely struggling to keep any kind of a foothold in China now.
Is visited related to just the relationship with the Chinese Government that has put -- -- that also let Baidu is a gap there search engine out there in China yet.
They were definitely -- that has had that has had a larger whole of the market in general.
Yet there -- definitely losing they were already trailing by --
And -- now they say a new Chinese and Chinese online media company that did just this week dropped Google's web search service from its popular portal site.
-- Google's Gmail has become difficulties in China and Google says -- because.
Of stepped up efforts by sensors to disrupt email access.
That share of the search market revenue in China dropped from 35 point 6%. Last year.
In 19% last quarter -- -- that's not much at all.
In the things that Google knowing don't have in nineteen I mean think about it Google mobile 719% -- in search they also do it if Ira called ray with in the past month we did a story about China was.
Releasing their own.
China's essentially government sponsored filtered search engine as well -- to the country --
It's really interesting because it is such a concrete example now we see a year later of Google.
To some extent putting its money where its -- mean.
Google said look this is wrong we can't operate effectively partly a business decision because we can't operate effectively.
In a place where we're being censored but U you know Yahoo! hasn't of them except hasn't and that they're still -- and the content and Google's.
We're not doing it -- not operate if we're gonna be --
And now they're suffering a measurable impact as a result of it -- and they get.
You know I mean it's Google's scanning -- -- which I liked -- I -- -- actually like it corporation medium to do something like that and now and not essentially be like you know that.
We don't care.
Do we need you guys you know we need that we would like the money but we don't really need you guys and now it's really interesting and it's -- and you gotta wonder what their shareholders they can -- to shareholders -- -- mercenary -- -- -- Islamic actually.
Ala dot L because really at some point Google only -- so far -- -- be in China.
They get them integrate all that they're gonna run into you know --
Okay and that -- our quarterly all Google all the time block.
So we haven't had a one of those and while we satellite and awhile this do you Google are all have -- CNN -- -- give plus one a period of -- to convert.
Adam Blake engulfed plus -- -- -- -- really think -- quick break.
When we come back in the exciting.
Drama over the Samsung Q -- report.
Apple is gonna go ahead and -- -- rate when it comes to the shipment delays out of the resulting from the Japan earthquake in a little bit as Davis in the -- disposition of world.
Welcome a buzz out loud buzz town Samsung. -- investigate reports of key logger.
Software on his laptop so.
What happened is -- person whose name is Mohamed --
Eight M researcher researcher who works -- yet with -- with that security and whatnot.
-- and went -- method of treatment -- an IT consultant I see -- in Toronto thank god area and we're that was -- that is down in the fifth paragraph.
I really know what he desperately near the idea what -- -- -- know what he desperately it was cheaper to Samsung Electronics.
That he had potentially key -- software.
He contacted Samsung and he said what is going on with this one of the Samsung reps that he -- he did contact several of them said that they were using it.
Could potentially see what their customers were doing the right to NASA -- you might want --
And then it spread through the Internet like wild fire there was this thing went past -- and Rebecca black through the Internet.
That -- although it was just as quick lead.
I mean it is almost certainly -- shown to have been a false positive. Marathon. In his in his report about it.
I'm sure that it's not a false positive because I've never gotten one before.
I read it the idea that was literally has -- now that's -- doses that says anecdote that is eight IT consultant.
Often if so -- -- Samsung responded to CNET and several other people and said.
There are absolutely -- there is no key -- software be installed on -- machine this is totally upon positive.
And then also of the company's star -- came out and said no our software does not on -- laptops.
That we does what you wanna make learned that when absolutely sure that anybody with do you -- tablet because I mean it was -- -- --
There is just the Internet the way the tech news cycle works.
It was removed.
And everywhere immediately he purchased two different.
An antivirus program called viper -- and -- -- -- -- -- they had identified a Microsoft windows directory.
As malicious software -- that's what made the --
I mean the thing that because I think that Samsung.
We -- want to look in through.
Is the fact that he apparently got someone on the phone who for whatever reason.
Said it -- obviously trying to get -- kind of nut job got half the phone line.
But for whatever reason said to him.
Yeah well yeah we have down there which tend to buy an elegantly designed.
-- I just.
Put it -- a few copies written retreated in our software package yet as -- -- like to keep track of what people -- -- their machines or you don't wanna go ahead and do some training.
Lowell let select update your knowledge --
For your customer service guys.
-- the funny thing about that though is -- controller -- see that happening because.
If any of you who have worked in customer service.
There are points where someone is brow being used sole hard you'll say you'll say anything to get them off your back.
I know Andy's site -- that's -- I completely agree Abbott.
Oh yeah go ahead know that X.
-- do it and then you have no idea he said -- like banks -- -- customer service so look at look across the web now for all kinds of followup posts and and like bright and has now been sort of officially declared to --
This viper software specifically an inspiring and timers -- program.
Netflix and possibly our series owners general and windows. -- -- -- -- -- it that there windows.
It's Microsoft it's always Microsoft's wow the placement and -- --
Apple is apparently according to -- -- times and others planning to absorb --
The additional costs of components better now more expensive because of shortages created by the Japan earthquake which means that if you're buying.
Apple products that contain these components.
You won't see -- price increase I can tell you that people are still buying them because.
Lo and behold I was on my bus right yeah there was a freak in line of from the Apple Store does more mean this -- so we're most of got out that they had more iPad.
At least 100 to 150 people -- it was a -- a cluster of twenty or thirty people like it has been.
It went all the way down to the other -- about us of what is going on like I didn't know people are still lining up.
That -- -- an iPad to ensure -- I know they are lining up in like.
In hundreds -- pretty amazing that's.
That's crazies. Apple's -- in -- pick up the cost to get these things out here.
-- get him at the door was interesting though is that because it's partly that they can afford to do it.
And so it gives them a competitive advantage.
And that they lose it that says that filthy it's one of the suppliers I think an upstream component maker who leaked this to -- -- times.
And that -- other tablet PC vendors purchasing pressure will increase -- they are unable to absorb the extra costs which are only give Apple more advantages in the market.
And one of the other things that and a related article about this kind of Apple's.
Buying power because they are they having criticize in the past for sitting on this.
A fifty billion dollars in cash and some the generals like what are you gonna do with -- will they can use that test in situations like this arm another example of how they're doing that is.
Apple has reportedly place and not a new order from a leading display manufacturer -- you opt chronic.
But their pain 300 to 400% premiums. For new iPad two displays this is a report a cornea -- report.
So when everyone's competing for these displays an -- Andy's manufactures and companies making these things.
Apple has the leverage to eat a little bit more the costs -- throw out more and just to win the.
Kids and to secure right and in this case to secure a new supplier in a time when shortages are I mean it basically like.
-- was this was Apple's rainy day fund in there.
Their commitment to -- -- cash and in I mean they're gonna secure their supply chain.
And they're gonna be able to keep pricing the same when I guarantee that people without that consumer market leverage won't be able to you and you'll see other -- from now on -- and countless often passes that's part of business -- that it is smart business eBay is actually revealing its iPad two sales data which is kind of interesting that there -- pointing out that.
Obviously almost all the -- have been happening in the US because of -- global sort of shortages.
But the two biggest export locations places that they're being exported to our Canada and Russia.
Followed closely by Hong Kong Japan and the United Kingdom and then if you are interested in knowing how much you can get for your iPad.
While Brian -- can tell you like from personal experience.
The old so that -- some of the data -- the numbers from eBay says that.
The sixteen gig Wi-Fi only iPad was was the most was the most popular in -- had an average selling price of 697. Dollars which is.
190 dollars higher than the retail price now the others very popular model was the wife by 83 G.
Base model and -- the number of how much -- okay.
So for -- 64.
-- me with the top line model with the three G.
Average premium on that was 406 dollars over the retail price of you bought it or what -- -- 98. When he announced when he nine -- -- -- can be looking at 12100 -- -- -- and so why I experience this with.
We went so awesome we -- of -- and ipads but I had ordered one online just to make sure that don't want and so likely cancel my order that.
Still I pencil came to me and I sold it on eBay -- were donated 100.
And which often doesn't totally -- a number.
It's not like I love the independent confirmation about the reported that not that that's.
The -- -- -- steak dinner -- in -- mean the weekly diary we do a review are early researcher in here W it would still sort of like that's totally right -- sold mine -- out that almost to the dollar -- --
Of -- the other the other random note about this is that on the original iPad.
I don't know if he said this because I was responding in the -- was 35% of them were sold in the US and state in the US as second -- buyers.
Here this time 65%. Of iPad to use were sold.
To buyers in the US -- -- how little is really interesting the majority of them are staying in the US I think cloudy us -- don't -- -- -- -- --
You know as part of it emitted suggesting that people would be turning to eBay and a market rather -- -- -- wealth and mining.
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It's time for they got that portion of the show. -- -- need some girl Gossip Girl been here our excel excel.
Not that I thought the show Paul Allen.
The co-founder of Microsoft has put out his new autobiography. And he.
Is ripping. Its pants of all people rightly -- patron saint and --
The newly. Re anointed on -- governor Bill Gates yet.
So this is his upcoming autobiography idea man.
And -- answer it in X or edited and the Vanity Fair and it's the right now exempted excerpted it for hardware excerpted.
-- -- so anyways what has happened is in the in the book he talks about how it was a high for some --
With Bill Gates and he described him as being guilty of mercenary. Opportunism.
So there's a story SNC when gates wanted to bring in -- and -- and gates offered bomber essentially.
Talking to Paul Allen 5% equity -- said gates and offered bomber eight point 75% Microsoft and confronted him with the -- to --
-- -- --
This is that's -- about the juicy stuff now forget that ultimately. Ultimately -- -- -- that gates was ruthless.
Yet he -- that he was ruthless that he tried to screw him out of an equity by deluding yet.
Issuing options to themselves and others the other Microsoft executives he basically says that he schemed.
-- gates schemed to rip off.
Allen was recovering from hodgkin's disease and then talked about how hard he drove everyone at Microsoft and how ruthless and brutal he was.
But it and it's fascinating because up according to Wall Street Journal --
The portrayal in the -- of -- making waves within the tight circle early Microsoft alumni with several people who know both men.
Privately expressing confusion. About mr. -- motivations for criticizing his old business partner and questioning the accuracy of his interpretation of certain --
So this is the thing about this Bill Gates is now one of the greatest philanthropist that we've seen when one of the -- and and this happened in a different day and time is now below I mean honestly yeah it's this happen you know -- if you're pissed.
Fine we get it there's plenty of things that happened behind closed doors with co workers that we would never talk about knowing that you guys don't trust me.
But the thing about this is to bring this out now.
And this essentially beat -- system so that Imus meant my experiment I honestly thought that anything else did have a -- -- have a problem.
Training that training me like a dog and a buzzer me every time I say that's stupid word.
I'm gonna get rid of it nick -- and I'm gonna get rid of it cracking had -- to get -- -- -- --
Anyway it's anyway and it is to come out and I know I -- -- -- beat -- -- -- -- -- -- you know what -- -- it says nothing about --
Now I know it's outline that I have a feeling now that -- -- -- that blanket that's pretty defamatory say that he conspired with someone else to screw.
Paul Allen out of acrid but the fact is I mean for one thing what Microsoft did was make Paul -- richer than blazes from -- and then Paul Allen went on to basically -- and multiple businesses after.
And and on and then try to sue every one under the sun country to remember is there any reason I tried to see the entire Internet but it basically has built up of a portfolio of intellectual property patent you know if you try to sued Twitter because he had a patent from -- telling the that said something about.
Instant status messages quickly opened up on a feed -- -- news feed -- are or the ticker you know -- soon.
I mean really.
I just think I just think he is Missy Elliott is -- the room.
If he thinks that this is the kind of thing it's in Milan Italy have any impact and -- better and one of the things -- -- -- that you want you have billions of dollars what are you mad at.
-- mean when you went in life you learn that no matter how much money people have or don't have.
The -- they still get mad about the stupidest thing right if you feel -- -- you feel -- forever you know.
And he still feels -- earlier and I know that guy. Or girl you've just used if Nat.
You want the movie utility right these are itself books than anything is a -- impressed -- -- don't -- -- as a million that he is not the thing.
Let's move on to the -- -- yes.
According to Microsoft.
Oddly while you get -- -- is already. Internet Explorer and dying is the most power efficient browser on the planet.
-- is -- you -- your laptop battery lasts well above.
Then use I.
No I. Mean this -- --
This is those tests that show that Windows 7 laptop with a -- -- 56 slot per hour battery.
-- nine could be used for three hours and 45 minutes before exhausting the power supply.
They say the closest competitor with Firefox or it came in at three hours and 35 minutes just ten minutes -- --
But that Chrome only lasted two hours and treatment.
Apple's safari lasted two hours and 55 minutes which accidentally.
Now that I read this this would be the one instance -- safari is the fastest browser -- Texas.
The same couch I've been dealing with painful issues but house law -- safari is and I finally decide to -- -- -- -- -- and then -- have --
After all this time out it's not sitting here with my little Chrome -- -- -- that bears to design drugs that have arts.
So much either like a totally in the probably -- -- how.
It's I've -- it here's the thing I've had it forever I just never uses.
And people that tell will be like how often do you actually decide to switch and change your browser when a browser works for most people yeah.
That's just when it comes damage if any if any part of my machine -- -- -- clunky and terrible as I would -- like I'm sorry I.
The best of circumstances and about evident anywhere near that many problems and -- like what Alameda -- this machine from an organ in your browser.
Firefox or Chrome -- -- a handlers in our show -- my machine looked like.
Paying because there are too many tabs open and -- -- the bar is that the -- and.
-- -- that's it shameful get out of here HTC it is has sent out invites for an event.
They're having in events.
On April 12 in London if they join -- to see what's next and it appears to show Smartphones green.
And there is speculation that they're about to spring a battery of new windows phone seven to --
That picture also appears to show the T 1000 arising from liquid metal in. Italy in --
Also Obama says federal fleet will be planning to run on alternative -- cited 2015. The policy is spurred the US government to purchase 100% alternative fuel hybrid or electric vehicles.
By 2015. It doesn't mean that they have to get rid of their gas guzzlers but.
And up to that point every car from then on moving -- will be.
-- -- --
I mean the government will be driving around in ten year old -- where apparently more of an --
Tend to get -- -- never gonna Turbo charged that's quite a little slow.
Under that you get -- gas guzzlers get to keep all the suburban and adult they haven't the need to its service as Ratner and -- suburban -- to keep them all.
But but then -- you know there have been nude in new stuff ought to be smart fourteenth.
The suburban -- could be driven into the ground.
-- -- conservation. That's the news Google's music search -- kind of popped up.
For while has quietly vanished from the inter webs.
Google said going forward that a simple Google web search will let you search -- and more easily discover.
Millions of songs I am.
And that if this somehow related to the -- baby whining of the music industry I don't aperture.
But I think we can -- --
Or they're trying to kill it so that they can filter people through their Google music service cloud service and eventually maybe that could be -- could be.
-- in the U debuting.
Because I like you I believe if you're looking for 12 the journal at a follow up article today about Amazon like.
-- trying to maybe make some deals of the music labels and was basically just an excuse for the music labels to be quoted saying things like we're so disappointed.
That Amazon would launch the service without you know what it is it's really disrespectful. I make. It's disrespectful.
For Amazon to enable you to store music that you own and what is essentially is -- -- hard drive.
Really get you where you're right -- earned our respect music industry by standing in the way of everything that we consumers want in terms of digital music consumption for more than ten years that.
And then now trying to extract more than -- more money from -- now.
Why me a river. Haven't won as the music industry have their right to be like we're disappointed.
It's just that we're just -- -- -- we can make money it's to disrespect.
That's what it through their intake fifteen minute people these felled people -- and -- -- -- move to move it over here since the fifth this I can't believe you mean.
But -- -- under his name and in the line of but I can't get over.
She was thing -- about it before the show before last night and today before the show and again -- that -- -- again I woke up this morning Munich he.
Disrespectful. We're gonna need something that. We -- we can have that for tech companies that totally like line.
Like lying like nobody's business just for -- he's just -- through them but -- you like that like that URL -- her people that was gonna tutoring and anti.
-- and you. Know where they now gone.
Got done all right to take yeah they cool ass gadget.
That particular night it's actually it's not -- Afghan news.
At that we're entering that it's an audience of those thousand on.
Honest and -- -- there was a little and I'm just not incidents that the trust.
A K -- out.
Bound by Molly and I don't know what you damages and an Internet time is the key and it OC about it at the --
Did I did not out of view and I apologize thank you so this is these these -- diamond limited take.
IPod nano watch.
Faith KK act case slash watch. Encrusted. In diamonds. And bid to -- -- -- white gold watch case.
Retail price any guesses in the chat room.
I'm not gonna TV template -- an elegant way way too long and and we could stretch it out but how much -- -- modeling how much would you think it.
Well that's up there but in -- character -- diamond film and its name like unified no Q how about 181000. Dollars and eighteen.
Enclosure. For an iPod nano that turns your iPod nano in here to -- the worst part about this thing.
The wrist band is still robber. -- -- gonna do that a.
These -- -- lame see this.
And the funny thing is if you're not watching that's right now you can't see that right on this -- -- -- -- real watch your camera and I think his watch and actually they are things you then this -- enclosed -- thing.
Her -- and not know that nano watch thing with.
In entered into that -- I -- I guess that's really the only thing that in an advocate for is -- thing you see a few I saw a --
At a club with the nano watch and all -- said.
Now -- instantly that you get try to make it diamond -- I don't think that.
The have been hostility but who'll. I doubt you don't -- --
Don't you hinted they might start a mean thing and that -- destroys me now I know you don't wanna know that it's a respectable I love the -- -- -- you don't wanna go watch a lot to --
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-- to somewhat dubious science.
That's into today's Google doodle TM.
There is paying homage I like.
I just like this line to Robert -- then.
The creator of the buttons and partner.
They did the Google homepage today -- -- an animated doodle of a laboratory gas burner heating up -- chemical.
And at the end steam -- out of a copy pot because apparently it is it would be your whatever it is -- -- 200 birthday.
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-- -- -- -- -- -- --
The Benson burner became popular or use obviously -- test the various metals felt because.
It's not will dutifully did not interfere with the test materials --
My dad would be very excited about this because he's a chemistry teacher I don't exactly and I was a horrible chemistry student that is -- I know Brunson.
This isn't good old fashioned -- agree.
They -- they say though that -- and actually improve the process in use and experiments where someone actually someone else invented.
The technical bugs and burger -- -- -- -- animated his.
That happens -- -- global ought to raise the money comes it was something that someone kind of tweaks and -- and it makes it matters except that now in the tech world they -- the -- -- could be any kind.
Yes it's not like your buddy in the lab no no move the other guy the guy who actually. Invented the lens Amber's -- like collapsed.
Where's my day I -- Google doodle and now TM the.
-- I'm happy ending the.
Typing in Finland Finland and we love you -- -- -- and and we love you for creating.
Competition -- amongst.
-- pilots and trade metered users Angry Birds.
Has -- their champion and in Finland over 2600. Participants.
Projected onto a large screen in the end a night in nineteen year old champion wears his name in here.
Jonas curricula Jonas. The very finished.
Probably don't Jonas anyway -- he's -- when it when he was crowned the winner over a hundred big -- plush toys dropped our into the crowd.
Nokia's official blogger -- I get -- get on to become -- -- that he had studied for school by day and -- Angry -- that night and spent two months.
Practicing for the final.
Via I think it was and labored by day -- Hebert by an executive at the let's be honest literate citizen and an article in -- once the -- --
We just saw the headline like that we have talked about this now aggregate -- -- some -- sign -- and watch it.
Good guy and it was like.
And went and got -- on us.
Don't really Angry Birds movie trailers that treatment with them -- -- -- like and we can watch in the -- analysis. The wanted to live and then also.
C'mon people -- -- make your dentist appointment now and get your -- line because today is the world back and we felt compelled to inform you.
Don't be in April pull -- your data check your reach Steelers would.
-- Stephen you you -- this speaks -- -- doesn't yet but in my back contract -- my studio broke out though.
Just recently yet this yesterday -- that it is in the back of -- that I have the original -- --
And I know everyone here listening -- and it's you who now these days half the people baca I think more people more more people -- -- once they've been screwed.
But the four there was a time where I felt may be one -- -- twenty people backed up.
And now I have to say thank god for drop box and and services like it -- -- --
Back up -- five -- up your social network that actually I mean really do it is they around the Bay Area I think people are super.
Everybody we're all having -- -- conversation if they about like a dating earthquake hits and a disaster preparedness plan.
And backing up because I think that that -- -- really hit home.
For people in the Bay Area.
Because you know it it it it's it could be --
And Japan is so like to perverse world just like or whatever in God's -- -- -- we get when you get it together.
-- so -- kind of joking about world -- at Davis here's the non serious he where we are it's this funny that it actually has a day.
Now that you want everything that they could make a we could start up our own day.
That started from mobile community -- make an official. Write would it be will have to think.
I know I think about that will let you guys yet you all -- to exceed analyst and that's oriented do.
Real on we'd send us your suggestions of what type of day let's make and you can't get anything yet he could be anybody -- today can be exactly probably not -- -- -- --
And -- and -- yes yes please.
To be any day you want we will take the most imaginative. Yet.
-- you'll read them that we will select the winner and we will then apply will go to some sort of website and apply to me.
This make -- international day animals than me like a sticker teachers got.
Our founding earth and a patent and I -- get the winner --
The break up makes nano in the -- Cayman -- -- -- at cnet.com email somewhere in Albany -- added minute -- not really know all in the email --
I begin your feedback with it --
See the contents refreshed your resume and edit we are still those -- less helpful whistles the list -- -- --
-- in -- today we asked you guys what do you think how much and is -- not totally saga gotten into the tablets are gonna make it.
Or what and then we got two answers for step.
And video and -- -- writer on the minor side.
Hey guys this just science and Leander and I just wanted to say -- Microsoft is totally smoking crack.
Issued a patent tablet with and it works similar to the iPad may be -- -- Turkey because of the time.
Ten years ago but they -- so.
I think we'll look back at the netbooks at -- -- no history and the the -- story in the electronics industry that it made tablets are -- impossible today but totally marks -- missed the boat.
It totally funny thing about that of them accepted the -- the.
We -- have the painted urban and I know that one and tablets that we are produced in conjunction with Microsoft.
It's is that they never went anywhere you know Apple finally cracked and not on the form factor in the time was right and a touch screen and I mean it's all about the timing just like relationships also.
Decide if -- the decided to the beat box buzz out loud -- a little while ago.
I think it might be I believe that guys really I'm serious was amazing if that you didn't even if not does this that it does --
Now is -- -- to arm our next caller is Darren from Columbus he wants a PDA ice PDI.
PDA stuff -- isn't competent and.
I hate others. -- I lumber.
What -- you who's gonna buy it Apple.
I'm thinking anybody who live in PDA.
PDA functionality at all I don't really useful and that kind -- and I really don't wanna pay the premium and mark.
But -- tablet. PDA functionality -- app including -- recognition. I think that we -- gonna --
It would -- on the show thanks.
You know he -- trying to get away with that already they sell.
Those little pens with the with the -- on it that you work on current tablets yeah if I don't wanna use your finger and there's talk that some of them are gonna have.
Stylus capability -- in the forthcoming -- and you know I.
You -- -- repeating. I don't. Mind the one thing in -- one thing we know about tech heads as they do you have.
A love for that one gadget that they can never they would never they would never say never to idea now it's really true I do you know a lot of people who work and stuck on it and missed in the palm.
Our idea might my love as the sidekick again I can't imagine that that's gonna be like -- giant tablet market.
But it's gonna be some of them I mean it you know that's certainly what they are basically is an overgrown PDAs let me TVs. And really -- world.
The room -- on your emails by that the unit that comes -- email address Bob.
That -- and give us some contacts or Google -- Kansas City, Kansas for its ultra high speed Internet he says there's some good history here about fifteen years ago the -- county amalgamated.
In an effort to streamline government.
Kansas City, Kansas and our county had been in some serious decline -- and then there's been a good bit of comeback but local development.
I believe the rather unique government structure -- huge part in lessening the red tape.
Interestingly the aging infrastructure also played a part.
-- like lots of places around your -- much of our power comes over ground and the stuff in the ground is and -- that are better suited to what Google wants to do.
It was funny to hear government -- governor Brownback say everything's up to date intensity -- about the announcement when it was clear that part of the reason it happen.
And because everything is not up to date yet.
That that's another. Lags in my mind that's another he's been.
It literally almost attacked my face. That's another reason -- the localized. In countries like over in Europe and in Japan.
That they were able to make such a leap in technology because they didn't really have much of the old copper lines everywhere and there will take those technological jumps --
And essentially -- the -- from -- because we have all this old cried.
It's guys like -- Microsoft problem really legacy button. Okay.
Until next email -- that in here that at all.
The song come from -- -- minute Tim Smith commander of the US navy.
BO ultra finally have a lot of overseas listeners like myself so I thought you might wanna pass along this experience your listeners.
This is a copy of the email -- just an Amazon dot com's customer service yesterday was overjoyed about -- -- drive on a naval officer stationed with NATO in Naples Italy.
And that I -- operative -- -- increased twenty gigs with the purchase of an and -- the album for your store.
So I bought two albums and listen -- my desk in my office through your cloud player all afternoon.
Great then I went home and upload about one gig of music from my home computer so I can listen -- work through the cloud player.
This morning I open up the cloud player to listen to my music at my desk and -- said sorry this product is intended for US customers.
Please refund my money for the two MP3 albums I -- -- to the cloud drive yesterday they have not been downloaded off the cloud drive I wonder if Apple and Google have the same restrictions.
Keep up to get work that.
-- the main reason that sucks I hate to say that it's not that much of a surprise that -- the US only happening although.
Patted down considering that they didn't do any -- -- -- bird but you know whenever that's not that surprising what is surprising is that they let you upload at all.
Without detecting where you were insane just FYI you're not can be able to play and that's something we need to fix AS -- and I'll be -- --
-- let us know maybe we can.
Knock down a few doors and we'll we'll try to come from when I do know someone who works -- the music licensing group for Amazon really --
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Thanks for the perfect and needs to know they've been written from Louisiana and that on Monday that the college athletic by the Verizon iPhone -- with an -- on by the left off the question lifting better Android phones.
I -- a friend who's looking to buy his spare part.
Is that a new product categories. -- if you forget the tablets -- the iPad and you forget netbooks we want the smart card.
It is so smart you can smart -- --
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Answers. It didn't have -- methane content -- --
But it's a new dietary habits and you ask dads -- that right Allen Vasquez asked Allen then -- gadget I was talking about earlier in the cell.
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I was not meet I would -- -- suggested that it had nothing to do with you today I'm really sensitive -- and -- -- nested like -- year -- and I didn't.
You you underneath it.
Okay it was just thought maybe it was caught in my genes from like five minutes before those -- that in the genes.
-- -- less smart art -- warned you about crime and there's an app that there's an app for that are -- then it is so that's why we're doing this agreement in Vanilla. I am definitely.
-- Account and.
If you wanted -- finesse is three it that we LL be light no let's let you get through this.
Try the email on a -- he won 500 -- if it weren't for one thing. You.
Sorry about that on key like myself you give a crap if you like myself he -- -- her without a credit card.
It alerts -- -- apps for Android you need a credit card.
For the iPhone you can -- puts it just about any store and buy -- gift card with cash with iPhone and iTunes.
If Google did something like this my friend would get an Android part in a heartbeat.
I love the show Nathan from Louisiana. So basically.
Nathan is seeing that you have to use a credit card which is to detect and to set up Google sent out.
Or debit card -- that disease is that the problem is that I literally make government if the videos that data -- Taking.
I dare anyone out there to even say that where -- -- and you can't even -- fire without I think let's let's dynamic number things when it's happening.
I'll around -- from. That the really good point we we should totally talking about.
-- you could I -- and yet but that's gotta be fixable.
Well that the -- Cutler blog 100 excellent sixty victory either on a Bernard -- -- dealt -- and the voice mails that don't even try.
-- colleague complained about a it bug that cnet.com and -- email that we can't wait to hear the thing about the days now and tell us -- you want for your -- the day that Beulah treats that.
Effort that's -- call and it.
Hey if you have anything better -- that that it does -- we might have.
So -- that -- good reminder. Well wishes to our colleague Natali Morris announced today that she is leaving us.
Not to got into it.
But now but I definitely wish her all the best against its going to be embarking on some pretty exciting project -- centers and her little -- of support.
Now Amazon and good luck Natalie get -- up plus one's life.
Okay we'll see you guys.
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