Ep. 03: Moonbots, Velcro, and hoverboards
Ep. 03: Moonbots, Velcro, and hoverboards
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Ep. 03: Moonbots, Velcro, and hoverboards

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[ MUSIC ] ^M00:00:04 >> [Donald Bell:] Alright, hey, it's June first, 2010. You're listening to CNET's Crave podcast. Rather, I guess you're watching CNET's Crave podcast since we don't do an audio-only feed, which everyone seems like they want to email me about every week. But we're keeping this video-only for now until someone makes a really convincing argument, but mostly because I love showing stuff on this podcast. And with me today is CNET's own "Inside CNET Labs" podcast hosts Dong Ngo and Eric Franklin. >> [Eric Franklin:] Hey. >> [Bell:] Hey. >> [Dong Ngo:] Hey, guys. >> [Bell:] What's up? >> [Ngo:] By the way we had the thing that, what's showing the most today, by the way. >> [Bell:] Yes, I'm showing you guys off. >> [Ngo:] Yeah, this is a Crave object [inaudible]. >> [Bell:] Can you imagine only listening to this and not being able to see you guys? >> [Franklin:] I know, man. >> [Bell:] It would be horrible. >> [Franklin:] Well, you know, I feel like -- >> [Bell:] Don't come to their defense. >> [Franklin:] I'm going to come to their defense because I have this problem too. I listen to a couple podcasts that are video only, and they kind of, they use up more battery power on my, on my iPhone. >> [Bell:] I know, and they take longer to download. >> [Franklin:] Yeah. >> [Bell:] Alright, but we're going to try and make it worth it for people by showing off Japan's plans for a two-billion-dollar robot moon base. >> [Franklin:] I'm there. Sign me up. >> [Bell:] Really? >> [Franklin:] I'm there. Yes. >> [Bell:] You have to wait 'til 2020. >> [Franklin:] Oh, well I'm there in ten years, then. >> [Bell:] Well, they don't want you unless you're a robot. See, that's the thing. >> [Franklin:] Well, if I, in five years I will be a robot. [laughter] >> [Ngo:] Cyborg already. >> [Franklin:] I have some things going on, plans in motion. >> [Bell:] Yeah, right. Well, this is a story on CNET's great blog where it's, apparently Japan is wanting to make the moon a playground for solar-powered robots. >> [Franklin:] [laughs] Right. >> [Bell:] To study the moon, I guess indefinitely until their robots run out of juice or the sun runs out of power. >> [Franklin:] Yeah. >> [Bell:] And it's kind of cool, I guess. I have mixed emotions about this. >> [Franklin:] The idea, the idea is cool? >> [Bell:] Yeah. >> [Franklin:] What's the practical use of this? >> [Bell:] More increased knowledge, right, of the moon and of outer space. >> [Franklin:] Okay. Alright. >> [Ngo:] I think, I think it should put human being there, not the robot. >> [Franklin:] Well, they're going to have to have some humans, right? >> [Bell:] We've already done that. >> [Franklin:] Maintenance? >> [Ngo:] No, I mean like for the long term, like, put a whole theme park there or something. [laughter] You know people, I'm serious. They'll stay there and live outside of the earth -- >> [Bell:] Yeah. >> [Ngo:] -- and in the future if you need to somehow go and terra-form some other planet then we can know what to do now. >> [Bell:] Well, I just like this, A, because it's a robot story, right? And you know >> [Franklin:] That's cool. >> [Bell:] There's always, Japan does robots right, you know? You know it's going to be adorable moon robots more than likely, right? >> [Franklin:] Sure, sure. Or like, or either adorable or bad-ass looking. >> [Ngo:] But how do you know if, how do you know if they are adorable or not? Robots [inaudible] the moon. Voltron -- >> [Bell:] I don't think Japan is capable of making a robot that's not adorable. >> [Ngo:] That's true, yeah, that's true. >> [Franklin:] Robotech and Voltron. I mean, come on. >> [Bell:] Or bad-ass looking. I can go with that. >> [Franklin:] Yeah, exactly. >> [Bell:] But they don't make, like, the ugly, mouth-speaking robots. >> [Franklin:] Yeah, they don't make American, dumb-looking robots like Americans do. >> [Bell:] The other reason why I'm excited about this is just because I want to do something cool with the moon. You know, even if it's just like the moon is a robot playground, I'll take that compared to just being nothing. But I don't want it to be a commercial thing. Like I don't want, you know, some giant blinking neon sign -- >> [Franklin:] Right. >> [Bell:] -- or like some hotel on the moon or something. >> [Franklin:] Exactly, exactly. You want, you want robots to be able to go there, you know, it's like hey, robots need to be able to relax, too, is what you're saying. >> [Bell:] Right. Or this could be the podcast where we check in with the robots on the moon, you know, and that's what we do. >> [Franklin:] Okay, sure, sure. I'd do it. Sign me up. >> [Ngo:] But you know considering that they're spending like 2 billion dollars on it, I mean, it's a little bit kind of too expensive for a toy, right? Because for you, like a toy -- >> [Bell:] It can be a toy, like -- I don't care how much money you spend on it; it could be a toy for me. >> [Ngo:] -- robot walking around the moon, and it costs you 2 billion dollars. >> [Bell:] Yeah, I don't think it's the best use of Japan's money. >> [Franklin:] No. >> [Bell:] I'm not going to say that. >> [Franklin:] And who are you to dictate what the best use of Japan's money is? [laughter] Using our moon as their base for their robots. That's right, I said "our." >> [Bell:] But you know, I do agree that I do, I wish this was more of like a Mars project or something cool. I wish this was us getting closer to -- >> [Ngo:] Maybe this first step. Maybe just -- >> [Bell:] -- Total Recall. >> [Franklin:] Right. >> [Bell:] Than this, like, moon base -- >> [Ngo:] [inaudible] maybe the first step -- >> [Franklin:] -- eyeballs -- >> [Ngo:] -- the next time we make -- >> [Bell:] -- something like that. Alright, well, maybe next time. >> [Ngo:] There's something about Japan and robot. You know, I mean, they make a robot that do the wedding thing. >> [Bell:] Yeah, I saw that. >> [Ngo:] So everything is robot now. >> [Bell:] But again, it was an adorable robot. >> [Ngo:] That's true. >> [Bell:] Yeah. It's not just some crass, giant robot. >> [Franklin:] The robots have personality. Personality goes a long way. >> [Bell:] That's right. Also going a long way, we have Sony's concept rollable OLED display, which -- again, this coming from Japan, so that's pretty cool -- but it, it actually looked good. Well, it looks a little weird because there's, like, lines on the display. It's already gone through more than its fair share of demos, where it's kind of become -- >> [Franklin:] Right. It's a prototype. >> [Bell:] -- horrible looking, but I think this is pretty cool. >> [Ngo:] I think it's really cool, too. I mean, think about how if you can have a laptop that's really small to carry. >> [Franklin:] Right. >> [Ngo:] Just roll it up and put it in your sleeve, and then you just pull it out and it's a laptop. >> [Franklin:] Yeah, and then you can have, like, buttons on the screen. >> [Ngo:] No, I think you can go through the custom in Australia pretty easily that way. [laughter] If you listened to last, you know -- >> [Franklin:] Last week's podcast, when I was like -- >> [Ngo:] You know, how you have to hide something in your computer -- >> [Franklin:] Yeah. >> [Ngo:] -- when you go through Australia custom. >> [Franklin:] Yeah, you can say it. Say it. >> [Ngo:] This is perfect. >> [Franklin:] It's porn. >> [Ngo:] Hey, look, I have the, I have nothing here. >> [Franklin:] Basically, this will allow me to get into Australia -- >> [Ngo:] Exactly. >> [Franklin:] -- with my porn intact. >> It will make you a happier man. >> [Franklin:] Yes. >> [Ngo:] No matter where you're going. >> [Bell:] I'm glad you guys found a reason for this, because the idea I have behind this, the reason I want this is because I want to be the total inverse of how we think of, like, laptops or tablets now where it's like a giant screen. >> [Franklin:] Right. >> [Bell:] And you don't get a keyboard? >> [Franklin:] Right. >> [Bell:] I want there to be, like, a keyboard I carry around and then, like, the screen -- >> [Franklin:] Just kind of pops up. >> [Bell:] You know? That would be kind of cool. >> [Franklin:] It would be kind of cool. >> [Bell:] If only to freak people out. >> [Franklin:] Just like a little QWERTY? >> [Bell:] Yeah. >> [Ngo:] Yeah, but I think if you can also roll the keyboard too. >> [Bell:] Mm-hmm. >> [Ngo:] So basically you have something really small like a small, like, [inaudible]. >> [Bell:] Yeah. >> [Ngo:] You know? And you could open it up and it's a full-size keyboard with full-size screen. >> [Bell:] Right. >> [Ngo:] That's, I think that's amazing. I think that's a great feature of something you can carry with you, have a full function but yet not too big to carry. >> [Franklin:] I agree with you. I think all that stuff is amazing, all that technology's amazing. You know, it's kind of Minority Report kind of stuff. You know, all the stuff they had in that movie is kind of, you know, you're kind of seeing that kind of stuff -- >> [Ngo:] Yeah. >> [Franklin:] - prototypes of that stuff now. But I still, it's still to make a buck. I still feel like these things are only here so that these companies -- and they're in the business of making bucks, so that's good. >> [Bell:] Sony needs to make a few bucks these days. >> [Franklin:] Yeah, I've heard. >> [Bell:] So I'm glad they're working on stuff. >> [Franklin:] But I feel like, sort of like, well, this will be great for like posters. And like, cereal boxes, probably, and like, newspapers which, probably not because they're dying. But I don't feel like there's any, like, practical use to this that's going to, like, advance society, human society at all, anything like that. But maybe that's not the point. >> [Ngo:] Yeah. >> [Franklin:] Maybe it's just like, hey, this is this cool thing. >> [Bell:] When do we ever talk about [talking over each other] supposed to advance society? >> [Franklin:] What? >> [Bell:] Do we have a podcast that even touches on stuff that advances society? >> [Franklin:] Sure, the Inside CNET Labs podcast. >> [Bell:] Oh, I guess I should listen more often. >> [Franklin:] Most every week. >> [Ngo:] I think I have a problem with this one though, because it's made by Sony. >> [Bell:] Oh, come on. >> [Ngo:] No, the reason is because they're going to make the screen that work only with Sony stuff. >> [Bell:] No. >> [Ngo:] So if you have a keyboard that's made by, let's say, you know, Apple or Dell, it doesn't work with this thing. >> [Bell:] They're -- >> [Ngo:] That's Sony. >> [Bell:] They're in a corner right now. They're a kinder, gentler, more open Sony from what I've seen. >> [Ngo:] Hopefully. >> [Franklin:] They're willing to try things? Is what you're saying? >> [Bell:] Yeah. So also on the display front, we've got a Samsung going in a different direction -- >> [Ngo:] Yeah. >> [Bell:] -- but also kind of cool which is the transparent display. >> [Ngo:] Wow. >> [Bell:] So this is larger, this is a 19-inch display. It's also OLED-based -- >> Yeah. >> [Bell:] -- but it's semi-transparent glass. >> [Franklin:] 30 percent. >> [Bell:] Yeah. >> [Franklin:] Partial transparency, yeah. >> [Bell:] So this is cool in a different way. This, I want this for two reasons. First I want this for Eric's office so that when I come into your office, you can't just hide behind your display all the time. >> [Franklin:] That's what I do. >> [Bell:] And I can see what the hell you're actually working on. >> [Franklin:] Right. >> [Bell:] Because I'm always curious about that. >> [[Franklin:] inaudible] moment before I actually -- >> [Ngo:] We need to have a transparent desk for him, too. >> [Bell:] There should be, like, a kill switch with this though -- >> [Ngo:] Yeah. >> [Bell:] -- so that you can actually, like, black it out when people want to come around -- >> [Ngo:] Yeah. >> [Bell:] -- and see what you're working on. >> [Franklin:] There probably will be. It seems like in this, in this Crave article they're kind of comparing it to the screens seen in Avatar. [inaudible] it brings us one step closer to those screens in Avatar, but again, I have to ask, other than the coolness factor -- >> [Ngo:] Yeah. It's not really practical. >> [Franklin:] How's this benefitting anyone? They do, they do talk about it being used for like, windshields in cars. >> [Ngo:] Yeah. >> [Franklin:] Which I can see, like, maybe you have your speedometer up there -- >> [Ngo:] Yeah, yeah. >> [Franklin:] -- and you know, other dials and whatever. >> [Ngo:] So basically you're driving and watching HD TV and a movie at the same time. >> [Franklin:] That's the point. That's the goal, right? >> [Bell:] Well -- >> [Ngo:] I'm watching, I'm driving 90, you know, mile per hour and watching Avatar. >> [Franklin:] Yeah, sure. >> [Bell:] I do think this would be cool if you married it up with some kind of augmented reality capabilities. Like, some camera on it -- >> [Franklin:] Right. >> [Bell:] -- where you'd be looking through it, and it would just be like some kind of looking glass, and then you'd have all the augmented stuff kind of fill in on the glass. >> [Franklin:] Yeah, sure, sure. While you're driving? >> [Bell:] Not while you're driving! Well, maybe. I don?t know. Well, while the robot car drives you, possibly. >> [Franklin:] [laughs] Right. >> [Bell:] But not necessarily while you were driving. But I think for other applications -- >> [Franklin:] I think those are only available in Russia. Anyway. >> [Bell:] Anyway. But yeah, I think even if it was like, an iPhone or something like that, or some smartphone that was just based off of that glass. You know, that would be pretty cool. It would be even more fragile than the current [inaudible]. >> [Franklin:] Right. Well, this thing looks, this thing looks flimsy as all get-out. I mean, just looking at it. But I don't, you know, I didn't see [inaudible]. >> [Ngo:] Well, they're going to change the, they're going to change the, you know, the design, though. >> [Bell:] Yeah. >> [Ngo:] To make it more [inaudible]. >> [Franklin:] Yeah, I mean, it looks very, like, very much like prototype, once again. >> [Bell:] Well, it also, it comes into my whole holographic obsession. >> [Franklin:] Yeah! >> [Bell:] Where it's like one of the closest things that I've seen. Well, not that I want, necessarily, some woman who's jazzercising on my desk -- >> [Franklin:] Why not? >> [Bell:] But -- >> [Ngo:] [inaudible] Why not? >> [Bell:] Well, it's not at the top of my list of [inaudible]. >> [Ngo:] Hey, [inaudible] >> [Franklin:] Well, it's in the top [inaudible], though, right? [laughter] Come on. >> [Bell:] But this is pretty cool, at least, in, like, a whole new field of more holographic technology. >> [Franklin:] Yeah, yeah. Well, they've been -- hologram is kind of, kind of old school. I mean -- >> [Bell:] It's old-school, but why hasn't it happened yet? >> [Ngo:] I think it's so old-school because it's you, was used in Star War, way back when. >> [Bell:] Yeah, exactly, the, my holographic chess set. >> [Franklin:] Well, there was that -- remember that video game that came out, that holographic video game that came out like the very early '90s or late '80s? >> [Bell:] You would. I wouldn't. >> [Franklin:] Ah, I don't remember the name of it. It was some, like -- >> [Ngo:] I don?t even know what game it is. >> [Franklin:] I think it was, like, a Western-theme game? Huh. I have to do some research and find out. But, yeah. >> [Bell:] Yeah. >> [Franklin:] But this -- this is years off from being practical. And useful. >> [Bell:] Alright, so other cool, probably more practical news -- and this is something that Dong uncovered here -- is Hitachi's new seven-millimeter laptop hard drive. >> [Ngo:] Yeah, you know, like, you know the laptop hard drive basically, you know, they come with traditional thickness, which is nine-millimeter. >> [Bell:] Mm-hmm. >> [Ngo:] And they fit in all of them. But for the [inaudible] had a portable design, like -- even for the iPad, for example -- >> [Bell:] Yeah. >> [Ngo:] -- you need something thinner. And this thing, it just [inaudible] thin. It's you know, like, 2.5 millimeter, but thinner than the normal ones, so seven-millimeter thin. But it offers really fast speed and also up to 320 gigabyte of storage. >> [Franklin:] What does that mean? >> [Ngo:] It mean, like -- let's say, you put it in the iPad, for example. >> [Franklin:] Okay. >> [Ngo:] Your iPad can have up to 320 gigabyte of storage. >> [Franklin:] You can put this in the iPad? >> [Ngo:] Well, I can't, but I mean, like, they can -- >> [Franklin:] Right. >> [Ngo:] -- considering -- >> [Franklin:] Right. >> [Ngo:] [inaudible] >> [Franklin:] Vendors, manufacturers. >> [Bell:] So is this kind of the same dimensions of, what, like a flash, like a solid-state drive would be, or is it even thinner than that? >> [Ngo:] It's actually thinner, but, you know, it come in traditional 2.5-inch standard of the hard drive. >> [Bell:] Yeah. >> [Ngo:] But you know, the solid-state, sometime they come with all different shape, you know, different kind of shape and standard. This is standard, and 2.5, you know, standard, and it's ultra-thin. So, I mean, for netbook and for, like, you know, a, kind of, you know, portable, really portable device, I think it's a great news. >> [Bell:] Yeah. >> [Ngo:] Because think about, if you have a iPad with 320 gig of storage instead of 64 gig. That would be really cool idea. >> [Bell:] That would be cool. I mean, and I also, just coming from the day, from the MP3 players, the days when people really cared about capacity in their MP3 player, about getting every single song -- >> [Ngo:] Yeah. >> [Bell:] -- they've ever heard in their entire life on one device -- >> [Franklin:] Right. >> [Bell:] This would have been, like, mind-blowing. >> [Franklin:] Yeah. >> [Bell:] But now everyone's contented themselves with, like, 16 gigabyte iPods. >> [Franklin:] Right. >> [Bell:] It's, like, no one really cares anymore. But -- >> [Ngo:] So this one, actually, coming out, they kind of come out straight to the vendors, so OEM manufacturers. You cannot buy them, you know, for yourself. So expect product with this, you know, this thing inside by the end of the year. So basically your netbook will have a much bigger space, and they also very fast. Similar the speed as a traditional-size, thickness drive. >> [Bell:] Alright. You also have some more hard-drive news, right? >> [Ngo:] Yeah, speaking of traditional drive, we have a new one here, the very first hyper drive from Momentus, it's called Momentus XT from Seagate. And it is not a solid-state; it is a half solid-state, half traditional drive. It have four gigabyte of flash memory. So the cool thing with the hard drive is that it feed in all application that regular laptop hard drive would feed in -- >> [Bell:] Mm-hmm. >> [Ngo:] -- but it would, it's much faster. It's about the same speed as solid-state drive. And the key is that, you know, the drive itself would automatically move all of the frequently accessed data to the solid-state part of the drive. So that's how it going to work, for example, if you run Excel, for example, they move all those files, all those, you know program into the solid-state part -- >> [Bell:] Mmmm. >> [Ngo:] -- so that it launch faster. And you know, I did some testing. I actually, I did a review on it, and it is actually a lot faster than normal hard drive. >> [[Franklin:] So real-world, real-world, assessing real-world. >> [Ngo:] Yes, [inaudible] testing, yes. But the price is like, you know, one tenth of the price of -- >> [Franklin:] Yeah. >> [Ngo:] -- solid-state. Even one hundredth if you come, if talk about the same capacity, because most solid-state, you know, give you a maximum a hun -- 258, 56 gigabyte. >> [Bell:] Mm-hmm. >> [Ngo:] This thing go up to 500 gig, and it cost a hundred thirty dollars, which is, like, maybe [inaudible] is more expensive than the hard drive, [inaudible] hard drive of the same capacity. >> [Bell:] So it's basic -- it's all the, kind of benefits -- not all the benefits -- a lot of the benefits -- >> [Ngo:] Yeah, yeah. >> [Bell:] -- of having solid-state. >> [Ngo:] Right, the performance benefits. >> [Bell:] Right, performance. But you get a capacity of -- >> [Ngo:] Much bigger capacity and much cheaper price. >> [Bell:] And it's available right now. >> [Ngo:] Yes, and it's, you can buy it right now. >> [Bell:] Okay. >> [Ngo:] I think, I think it could change the way you think about laptop hard drive, really. It's a very, very good state. >> [Bell:] I'm excited. >> [Ngo:] Very good drive. >> [Bell:] Because I actually read the ad to the editing for this review -- >> [Ngo:] Yeah. >> [Bell:] -- and I read it, and I'm like, "Oh my God, I actually want to go out and buy this hard drive." >> [Ngo:] Huh. >> [Bell:] I see you [inaudible] with an Editor's Choice, too. >> [Ngo:] Yeah. >> [Bell:] Alright. >> [Ngo:] So yeah, you know, be excited about it. I think, I think people -- >> [Bell:] [laughs] Geeks, be excited! >> [Ngo:] I think, I think, you know, this is the way that, you know, most hardware, most vendor would go, because they think about the hyper-drive for a long, for many years. This is the first one that actually, kind of, you know, become mass-production. And I think it'll be [inaudible] successful. So I think Western Digital and Samsung will start making the same thing. So we'll see them -- >> [Franklin:] They're going to start [inaudible] copying? >> [Ngo:] Not copying, but I think they have a same, they have the same technology, but they don't know how to kind of implement it. But now, you know, as Seagate can do that, they're going to kind of, jump in and make their own version of it. >> [Bell:] Yeah, it's probably going to be one of those things where we don't even know, eventually we won't even realize this is a new technology -- >> [Ngo:] Yeah. >> [Bell:] -- it'll always kind of be -- >> [Ngo:] Yeah. >> [inaudible] Alright, so other stuff that happened last week, it seemed to, like, there was a rash of iPad how-tos, of, like, DIY treatments, so it's kind of like -- >> [Franklin:] Yeah, apparently. >> [Bell:] -- mount your iPad using Velcro, how to get your iPad mounted on a wall using 3M hooks, how to get your iPad mounted on your motorcycle. >> [Franklin:] Yeah. >> [Bell:] There was like, a how to use a coat hanger to become an iPad rack or an iPad holder. So there's, like, three different pieces on CNET right now. Right now I'm showing the Velcro version -- >> [Franklin:] Yeah. >> [Bell:] -- which is actually kind of funny. >> [Franklin:] I'm watching that video right now; it's kind of cool, actually. >> [Bell:] And if you were ever thinking about making your own very cheap or completely free stand or mount for your iPad, last week apparently was the week to figure out how to do that, so. I'll get all of the different links in the show notes here, but I just wanted to show a little bit of this video, the Velcro version of it. I love the bit when he takes it out on his motorcycle. That's my favorite. >> [Franklin:] Well, what is -- >> [Bell:] So, this is ridiculous, where they've got it mounted on the window. I don't know why you would do that, or why you would just keep your iPad hanging out on your window, but it's a nice little concept. >> [Franklin:] Must be a nice neighborhood. [laughter] With the window open. >> [Bell:] Oh, here's the skillet one, too, where you're absolutely not going to get any grease on this thing while you're cooking. >> [Franklin:] Yeah, of course not. No. [laughter] Totally won't. What is this? >> [Bell:] This is the ceiling mount. >> [Franklin:] What? It's on the ceiling? >> [Bell:] That's the Eric Franklin special movie treatment, I'm sure. >> [Franklin:] What does that mean? [inaudible]? >> [Ngo:] Wow. What is that for, on the ceiling? >> [Bell:] I don't know. It's just a -- >> [Franklin:] Yeah! This -- >> [Bell:] This is cool. >> [Franklin:] This is wild. >> [Ngo:] I think it's just intro stuff [inaudible]. >> [Franklin:] This is a good idea right here. >> [Bell:] Well, absolutely, like, all these different, all these different, like, scenes have it without a case on it. >> [Franklin:] Yeah. iPad in the toilet room -- >> [Ngo:] If you look at this, if you drive it, like, 90 mile per hour, looking down this thing, you're probably going to die. >> [Bell:] Yeah, absolutely. >> [Ngo:] It's not a good, practical way to use iPad, I bet. >> [Franklin:] It's a good practical way to kill yourself, that's for sure. >> [Bell:] Then Dan Ackerman has this really cool one up on how to just use like, 3M hooks. >> [Franklin:] 3M! >> [Bell:] Like, just little sticky hooks to, like, mount your iPad. >> [Franklin:] Maritime polymers! >> [Bell:] Yeah. >> [Franklin:] You know they make those now. 3M. >> [Bell:] Good job. >> [Franklin:] Yeah. >> [Ngo:] I kind of prefer the Velcro, though. >> [Bell:] Velcro? >> [Ngo:] Yeah, Velcro is kind of more techy, tacky. >>> {Bell:] Except the Velcro you actually have to stick on your iPad, though. This version you can kind of keep your iPad virgin. It looks nice. >> [Ngo:] That's true. >> [Bell:] [inaudible] slide it out. >> [Ngo:] But it's on the back. Who cares? [laughter] >> [Bell:] That's good to know. >> [Franklin:] This looks, this looks like some -- this article's not written by someone who lives in California. Because he doesn't, he doesn't really touch on the fact that this, during an earthquake, this thing is coming right off and cracking the screen -- >> [Bell:] Well, no, I mean, I -- >> [Franklin:] -- until, like, the end of the article. >> [Bell:] I think that -- >> [Ngo:] But if there's a earthquake, who care about the iPad? >> [Franklin:] I do! >> [Ngo:] Really. >> [Franklin:] This is, see, that's the thing. I mean, you always go to the extreme. Just because it's an earthquake doesn't mean it [inaudible] have to be -- >> [Bell:] You went to the extreme. You went to the earthquake. >> [Franklin:] Well, yeah, well, that happens here. >> [Bell:] Yeah. >> [Franklin:] It does. It doesn?t have to be a catastrophic earthquake, but it still could be enough to knock an iPad to the floor and crack the screen. It's kind of stupid to put it up there. >> [Bell:] All I'm saying is, I think what makes all these work, including even, like, the coat hanger one, but especially, like, the Velcro bit, is that the iPad is actually light enough to stay up, you know, without it just kind of, you know. >> [Franklin:] Like, yeah, just going through the hooks. >> [Bell:] Right. >> [Franklin:] Yeah. >> [Bell:] So that's cool. Good on your iPad, and good on you people who are really cheap and want to, like, figure out different ways to get their iPad around the house without having to buy anything -- >> [Franklin:] Right. >> [Bell:] -- from Belkin or Griffin -- >> [Franklin:] Like it's so hard to carry this thing! >> [Bell:] Yeah. >> [Ngo:] But you cannot call them cheap, though, because they actually spent a lot of money buying the iPad. >> [Franklin:] Lazy. How about lazy? >> [Bell:] Right, exactly. Their budget's already blown on the iPad. >> [Franklin:] Right. >> [Bell:] Alright, speaking of things that won't blow your budget, Dong, you actually have a cool case for your Flip [inaudible] last week. >> [Ngo:] I have very cool thing here. I have the Flip camera, but you know -- everybody knows about the Flip camera, but I have a it in the box. Okay? >> [Franklin:] What's in the box? >> [Ngo:] The flip camera in the box. And here the box is actually the underwater case. >> [Franklin:] Is that your Flip in the box? >> [Ngo:] Yes, exactly. >> [Franklin:] Sorry. [laughter] >> [Ngo:] So what happens is that in this case, this case here, allows you to use a Flip camera underwater. >> [Franklin:] What? >> [Ngo:] Up to, up to 30 feet. >> [Franklin:] [inaudible] >> [Ngo:] Seriously, up to 30 feet. And -- >> [Franklin:] That's actually kind of cool. >> [Ngo:] Yeah, it's really cool. So it open it up like this -- >> [Franklin:] Yeah, yeah. >> [Ngo:] -- and you put the Flip camera in here. And by the way, it can only support the Flip Ultra HD and Flip Ultra. >> [Bell:] Yeah. >> [Ngo:] Only two model of the Flips. And you put it here -- >> [Bell:] So no [inaudible]. >> [Ngo:] -- and you seal it up together, and there you go. You can use it underwater [inaudible], and -- >> [Franklin:] Did you try it underwater yet? >> [Ngo:] Actually, I did. I tried, I went to the -- >> [Franklin:] To the bathtub? >> [Ngo:] -- pool, the pool where I live. [inaudible] >> [bell:] [laughs] I'm sure they loved you swimming around the pool with a HD video camera underwater. >> [Franklin:] So why is that, why is that creepy, why is that creepy guy [inaudible]? >> [Ngo:] No, it's not creepy, because, no, hold on. I went there with a friend -- >> [Franklin:] What's he doing? >> [Ngo:] -- with a bunch of kids, so actually, you -- >> [Bell:] Oh, I'm not going there. >> [Ngo:] -- you would love it. >> [Bell:] Yeah. [laughter] >> [Ngo:] Look, it was cool to record your kids, you know, swimming for the first time. >> [Franklin:] Sure. >> [Bell:] Right, yeah, absolutely. >> [Ngo:] Or at home, you know, you could also use it in a hot tub if you want to -- >> [Franklin:] Yeah! >> [Ngo:] -- with your wife, or whatever. >> [Franklin:] Oh, yeah, I know what he's getting at. >> [Ngo:] I think that would, that would, you know, be -- >> [Franklin:] You guys have a hot tub? You guys have a hot tub? >> [Bell:] No. >> [Franklin:] Oh, okay. >> [Ngo:] One more thing is that, you know, this thing actually make the camera float. So if you, let's say, if you swimming and somehow you kind of drop it off, it's going to float up to the surface. So that's good. I like it. And it's only 50 bucks. That is still, and you can actually buy it for -- >> [Franklin:] "Only" 50? Are you crazy? >> [Ngo:] Hold on. You can actually buy it for like 30 bucks [inaudible]. >> [Bell:] Thirty. That's what I thought I remembered you saying. Thirty sounds like a decent price for that. >> [Ngo:] So I think it's worth it. If you have the Flip camera, I think it's worth it. >> [Bell:] Yeah. >> [Franklin:] [inaudible] Flip camera. >> [Ngo:] -- easy to use: again, just go like this, take it off, put it in, and then you can just close it, and there you go. >> [Bell:] Alright. Well, if you don't have a Flip camera -- >> [Ngo:] Go get one. >> [Bell:] Go get one, because you're probably going to want to get one to record the action of you -- >> [Ngo:] Underwater. >> [Bell:] Un -- no. Well, not underwater. >> [Ngo:] All my -- >> [Franklin:] He's segueing right there. >> [Bell:] I'm segueing right here. >> [Franklin:] He's in the middle of a segue. >> [Ngo:] Oh, okay. >> [Franklin:] And don't interrupt him. >> [Bell:] God! >> [Ngo:] Sorry. [laughter] >> [Franklin:] You totally messed -- >> [Bell:] I totally messed that up now, and the video's not [inaudible]. >> [Franklin:] Go back, go back. It's worth it. Come on. It sounded like a good segue. >> [Bell:] Wait, hold on, I'm going to refresh this. Come on. This is, you're watching the sausage right here. I'm making it. >> [Franklin:] [inaudible] >> [Bell:] Okay, I'm not going to -- >> [Franklin:] I'm not going to ask questions about that. >> [Bell:] It's a bad metaphor to use around you guys. >> [Franklin:] That's for sure. Figured you'd learned your lesson a long time ago. >> [Bell:] Okay, here we go. >> [Franklin:] Alright. >> [Bell:] Hover board. >> [Franklin:] Nice. >> [Bell:] And this one is coming from the CNET River. Antoine -- >> [Franklin:] Yeah, Antoine Goodwin -- >> [Bell:] -- Goodwin posting this. It is an artist who has created a authentic reproduction of the Back to the Future II -- >> [Franklin:] Yes. >> [Bell:] -- hover board. >> [Franklin:] Yes. >> [Bell:] That of course only works in one place, and you can't actually stand on it. But -- >> [Franklin:] It does hover. >> [Bell:] It does hover. And you can, you can go to [inaudible]. >> [Franklin:] Is it used with -- >> [Ngo:] Oh, you cannot stand, you cannot kind of step on it? >> [Franklin:] Does it hover via, like -- >> [Ngo:] I think some kind of -- >> [Franklin:] -- like, magnets, or whatever? >> [Ngo:] Yeah, some kind of magnetisms underneath it. >> [Bell:] [inaudible] >> [Ngo:] But that's not new, though. I mean, any man can do it. >> [Bell:] Well, then, do it! >> [Ngo:] No, I mean, seriously, it's not -- >> [Franklin:] Yeah, do it. >> [Ngo:] It's not a big deal. You just stick two magnet underneath it, and there's a magnet on the surface, and you somehow, you make sure that, you know, the boat cannot move sideway, and you got a float. >> [Franklin:] I think that [inaudible] Dong means, like, why haven't they done this before? >> [Ngo:] Yeah, I'm -- because it's not a -- >> [Franklin:] Yeah, it seems like -- >> [Ngo:] This is not a great, amazing idea; it just, like, a idea that has been there forever, but nobody, you know, bother put it together. >> [Franklin:] Well, look, we still have five years before we catch up to Back to the Future II. >> [Ngo:] I just want to say, like, if you can actually stand on it and move around with the room a little bit -- >> [Bell:] That would be cool. >> [Ngo:] -- then I would be very impressed. But this -- >> [Bell:] You're not impressed. >> [Ngo:] -- no big deal, really. I mean, I -- >> [Bell:] I do think you'd have to use some kind of, like, alternating current on the magnet to keep it from, the cover board from just kind of floating off. >> [Franklin:] Right. >> [Ngo:] Or you can just, you know, put some kind of -- >> [Franklin:] Probably, yeah. >> [Ngo:] -- on the side to keep it from moving around. But you're right; the only challenge here is to make the hover board does not move sideway. >> [Bell:] All I'm -- well, I just, I love the attention to detail that the artist did to make it, like, absolutely [inaudible]. >> [Ngo:] And I do appreciate the color. >> [Franklin:] Were there sound effects in the video? I didn't hear anything. >> [Bell:] No, there's not. You can make your own. >> [Franklin:] Okay. One of those hover boards make a very distinct, cool sound in the move. I remember that. >> [Bell:] If I was going to go to anybody to try to figure, to find out what that sound was on demand, I would probably go to you. >> [Ngo:] Just let him try to make it. Make the sound. >> [Franklin:] No, I'm not going to make the sound. >> [Bell:] Should I play it again, and you can make the sound? >> [Franklin:] Yeah. >> [Ngo:] But I do appreciate the color, though. The color of the photo is really cool. >> [Franklin:] Well, it's the, so, the little kid one, the little girl one, he uses in the movie. He steals, he steals it from a little girl. >> [Bell:] Yeah, that's the one thing. I thought it had a Mattel logo on it. This one doesn't have a Mattel logo. >> [Franklin:] Oh, okay. >> [Bell:] Right? >> [Franklin:] I don't know. I would think that you would, probably wouldn't want to put a Mattel logo on there if you're making it. >> [Bell:] I remember that. It was actually part of the story is that Mattel got flooded with, like, requests, saying -- >> [Franklin:] Requests. Well, as in, why aren't you making this? >> [Bell:] Saying, "Why are you holding back this hover board technology?" >> [Franklin:] We know you have it! >> [Bell:] We saw it in the movie! We know it works! Just tell us where to buy it! >> [Franklin:] We've seen this! We've seen it used! It's there! >> [Bell:] We saw Marty McFly use it. >> [Ngo:] Sell it. Make a lot of money. >> [Bell:] Yeah, alright. So I think, with that, we've already made the longest Crave video podcast ever -- >> [Franklin:] Uh-oh. >> [Bell:] -- ever made. So we're going to wrap it up. I don't see how we could go really any better than the Marty McFly hover board. >> [Franklin:] Yeah, you can't. >> [Bell:] So. If you want to contact us, there's probably a way to do that. I think our email is Crave Show at CNET.com. >> [Franklin:] You think. [laughter] >> [Bell:] And our number -- Jasmine usually is the repository for the number, but no one calls us anyways. So email us. And then we can talk about your stuff next week. >> [Franklin:] Your stuff. >> [Bell:] And then, thank you again, Dong and Eric, for filling in -- >> [Franklin:] No problem. >> [Bell:] -- for Jasmine. And I think -- >> [Ngo:] No problem. >> [Bell:] -- next week Jasmine will be back. >> [Franklin:] Yay. >> [Bell:] And we'll do this all again. >> [Franklin:] I guess. >> [Bell:] Alright. >> [Ngo:] Alright, bye, guys. >> [Franklin:] See ya. ^M00:24:56 [ MUSIC ]

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