Drones: The difference between professional and toy flying machines (Open_Tab)Drones are all over the market, from high-end ones all the way down to cheaper toys that happen to fly. CNET's resident drone expert Joshua Goldman talks with Jeff Bakalar about the differences between these bigger and smaller drones, and Mike Sorrentino...
[MUSIC] So Josh, thanks for being here. Sure. What are the differences between a large drone like the Phantom and one of these rinky ****, I found this in a Cracker Jack box drone? What is the difference? Obviously the size. [LAUGH] Interesting. That goes without saying. We covered size already. Yeah. So. But am I really missing out on something cool by just having this little guy here? It all depends on what you want to do with your drone. So yeah. What do I want to do with my drone? Flying around your living room. Hitting your cat in the head. That's the one you want. Right. So pet abuse. Well I mean yeah and child abuse. [UNKNOWN] as well of course. But that one's a toy, no camera on that one. Right. And that one in particular is made to roll up walls or also just fly. Okay that's clue. That's an interesting design I like that. So you've got Ones like that, that are tiny and don't do all that much. Right. And then you'd move up and you've got other ones, like I've got this one here. Okay. That one there. What's this? That is the Sky Viper. Sky Viper. Sky Viper. Snakes can't fly. V2400 HD. Cuz it has a, Can I not plug this in? You can plug it in, it's not gonna do anything. Okay. But, well, it might blink. Anyway. That one's got a camera, flies up in the air, that's a little bit more outdoorsy. Okay. You can fly that around your yard. Could fly it around your house too, depending on the size of your house I guess. Right. So what am I getting with, everyone sees these vloggers and everybody. There rocking that Phantom. Right. So- The things a lot of money. Yeah. It's a lot of money cuz it has a lot more tech in it. Yeah. It's got a much better camera. Stabilization for indoors. Okay. So, that you can fly it and you don't need, normally, you would need GPS signal outdoors in order to keep it hovering in place and not just flying off. Mm-hm. So, that's what you get with the phantoms. You get better stabilization, better features, ability to set it up and fly a flight path. Are they harder to fly? No actually they tend to be easier to fly. The bigger, the easier it is to fly. Well I mean, here, this one is big but it's essentially a toy. It doesn't have, I don't know if they can see that. Yeah, they can see that. Look at that thing. Look at this. This is essentially a toy. It's a larger drone, comes with a HD camera on it. Okay. But it doesn't it's not gonna hold that. Here I'll hold that. It's not gonna have stabilization. RIght, it's not gonna be stabilized. The camera is fixed so you can't do any, you can't like pan and tilt it. Is that a go pro on there or no? No this is called, Mike this is a fake **** go pro. Fake go pro. No- That gets in the toy realm when it's not a full-fledged camera. Well no, I mean it's a full-fledged camera. But I mean, that is not a- It's a FauxPro. It's not a great quality. I like that, it's a FauxPro. FauxPro. There you go, FauxPro. I'm just gonna wear this on my face the rest of the show. I like that. But again this doesn't have GPS in it, although it's the same Nearly the same size as a Phantom. Yes. It doesn't have GPS in it. Right. It doesn't have anything. It doesn't have like the Phantom 4- [LAUGH] It doesn't have anything. It doesn't have anything! It doesn't, really. The Phantom 4 has got collision avoidance. Does it really? Yes. How does it do that? It's got sensors in front. So that- It's got airbags, basically. Not airbags, no. Not yet. Yet. Virtual airbags, maybe. Does it have a parachute? No, it does not. There are drones with parachutes. There are, well there are drones that you can attach parachutes to that will deploy. If I have a Phantom. Phantom's are like $1500 right?>> Not really. I mean that the highest end one that anyone would would be 13. So 13. I'm putting a parachute on my $1300 drone. Okay. It just like falls out of the sky. Well ideally it shouldn't just fall out of the sky. Yeah I guess not. So do drones have failsafes that prevent them from falling out of the sky? Because I feel like what if the battery craps out. Well I mean yeah. The whole idea with the phantom is it's constantly giving you feedback on the What's going on with this flight. Okay So, if the battery starts to get low it's telling you that the battery is getting low. You don't have to worry about that. So. This is a great episode because I don't crap about drones. [LAUGH] He's searching for the curse word. I was going to say a different word then I realised where we were. [LAUGH] We already rise in our chat, wondering if these drones can be used for Covert operations. Covert operations? The word he used is first he said stalking then he said Area 51. What? It's a little ridiculous but drones in general pretty noisy aren't they? Yeah there loud I can you can fly one two hundred feet up and still hear it. Really. Yeah there not there not quiet that's why And besides, they all have. They all have their helicopters. For the most part they all have really wide angle lenses on them unless you go further away with a wide angle lenses. The things get smaller and smaller. Farther away. It's not like they have zoom. Sure. Lenses that you can fly 200 feet and then. Sure. Zoom in on somebody. Okay. And if you're flying 20 feet above somebody, shooting them in their backyard pool, then- They're gonna know. They're gonna know about it. They're gonna know, they're gonna be like someone's creeping at them. Yeah, yeah. And they're gonna take a broom and knock it down, and- Then probably report to the authorities. Well maybe shooting it with a shotgun like I've read too. Yes. So do we have to register? What kind of drone do I need to register if I live in the US? It's not the drone you're registering, you're registering yourself as a drone owner. A droner. A droner. A droner [LAUGH]. Didn't think that's a thing but now it is. We've coined it here. So anything, basically any drone over 0.55 pounds. So anything over a half a pound you have to register with the FAA. Why is it a weight thing? I guess Because if it falls through the sky or flies into somebody I guess? I don't know. That's just what they went with. This is over, this is probably a pound. That feels heavy, yeah. It feels like a pound. So yeah, you'd probably, in order to fly that you'd have to register yourself with the FAA and throw a, you have to throw, you get a little number, a registration number you throw there on the drone Really? Okay Just something fixed inside the drone. You can put it in the battery cavity or something like that.>> He did want us to fly the drone but that would not work out well in this small studio space or living room.>> No.>> I feel like we could do it, do you want to just.>> Go for it.>> Yeah? Okay. Can this guy?>> No.>> Why not that guy?>> Because This one might knock over everything. We start it up but you might do some damage with this. All right. I've seen you fly, friend. What do I do, power on? No, don't. Don't do it? Don't do that one. There's tiny ones for you. The tiny one with the cage on it. The one with the. So go ahead and turn it on. Gonna activate this little There we go. Put it down on the floor. On the floor? Yeah. Put it on the floor. Now how did it specialize in that is it a quatre captain or a drone? Is there a major difference? So yeah. It's a common thing with. With people who want to argue such things, yeah. No, technically I guess, it's not a drone. What did you do? I hit the button. You weren't suppose to hit any buttons. We're just supposed to take off? And on this weeks episode you have a lot of buzzing. Anyway. So, how does this work? How do I take off? How do I take off? Well, I don't know now. What'd you do? I hit buttons. It's not moving. Drones! [SOUND]. Okay there it goes. Man you know having the ball there is kind of great. All right well [CROSSTALK]. [LAUGH] And that's the story of drones. Basically you fly them until they disappear into a tree. Right. [CROSSTALK] A live show. [LAUGH] You were saying, what was the question you had? Quad-copter- Right, quad-copter drone, yes. Technically it's a quad-copter, multi-rotor UAV, whatever you want to call it that basically everybody decided to call it a drone. And for marketing purposes drone works really well as opposed to UAV. But you have to explain everything. Yeah and that's like more of a militaristic thing. Yeah but I mean I don't know. They're all drones. So they're interchangeable terminology. And I don't know that look it came back. It came back and went under. [LAUGH] So you break down. Okay put it. I want to fly from here. Boy. Man the bouncing part is kind of great. [UNKNOWN] is commenting he hates the short flight time with these drones. Do you find that with them though?>> Yeah that's all of them. Okay. They're [LAUGH] A mosquito. It's like a little [UNKNOWN]. [UNKNOWN] Well not it's stuck. Okay, well, and this is why we don't fly [UNKNOWN]. Fair enough. How about another, No wait, no wait, refer your question. Sure. To answer the person's question. Short battery life. [LAUGH] Right, short battery life. So These are all the toy ones. Is it? No.>> It's doing it's stuff. Yeah. It's upset.>> Battery life. Shut that off. Okay. Anyway. Yeah, the little ones, they all last anywhere from five to eight minutes which is nothing. No. And a lot of them, I mean it all depends on the model. This one's got a removable battery. Some of them don't I go for the ones with removable batteries because they tend to be inexpensive anyway. Sure, and you maybe carry a couple with you. Yeah, so you get like, 20 minutes of flight out of it instead of 5. And that's the main problem with a lot of them.>>>So, if you want to fly a drone like flying a kite, it's probably good to have- if you have the ability to have multiple batteries. Boy. They charge off of. Whoa! [LAUGH] This thing, this is a lot of fun. This is a lot of fun. It's crazy. Can you charge them off a battery pack like a cell phone. Absolutely, it's totally doable. Joe, where are you with the camera? I'm doing real good with this guy. Pete though, when you flew, Michael actually had the opportunity to fly the exact same one. That's awesome, man. Who catches their own drone? This one's fun, man. Can I have it? After I'm done review it, yes. There you go. [BLANK_AUDIO] This is like a short, aw. Propeller's off. I'm sorry. I broke the drone. If somebody wants a toy drone versus professional drone, what do you think is the customer level? Who would want what? I think in general most people want both. Mm-hm. The toy ones are nice cuz they're cheap. Yeah. It also helps you learn how to fly without blowing $1000 and crashing it into a tree. Totally. Been there. You crashed it? [LAUGH] Maybe. Maybe it wasn't mine. Somebody else? We don't have to talk about that. Fine. Yeah, you can get one, I think this one in front of us is like $100. Okay. So you get that, you fly that around the park for a little bit and you realize okay, I'm ready to move up to something a little more serious and then Flying this one is a lot more, like we said earlier, a lot more difficult to fly in [UNKNOWN]. Because those do just about, they are so stable and can fly themselves basically. Right. And they're, as far as drones go, they're really-- Quadcopters. Quadcopters. Get it right. They're easy to set up and start flying right away, as long as you're somewhat tech-savvy. [MUSIC]