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The hello everyone and welcome to dial and -- cellphone podcast it is may seventeenth claims and I'm senior editor Bonnie trapped back here in New York. Where it's very Iranians I think and his team Francisco we've got -- could -- court Nicole Lee and he beat him -- -- Pay me because the going. A little rainy and -- here. It doesn't a big company. Brief break today but it was announced on yen and -- -- and streaming in the window for me that's right. However I ever like -- there. Yeah exactly. And beautiful art. And Kent -- is on vacation I believe he's a -- In Alaska -- ninth so hope you have a good time and he should be back next week. Had to kick off this week and you -- there's a lot of leaks and rumors that we can start with. And Scott Webster covered a few of these -- starting with AT&T summer -- -- their looks like they're beefing up their Android lineup which is always good news and in the path in that department but. Looks like -- -- adding to -- -- -- four -- with a couple of HTC devices the first one being HTC's lead. And this planet has one point two gigahertz dual core processors so everyone's running dual core phone would be happy to hear that. Got a four point three inch display -- -- megapixel camera and will be -- gingerbread. I'm but it looks like the ha HTC holiday will actually -- the -- the flagship device and this one has a four point five inch UHP display. When Gigabit -- ram and eight megapixel camera. And also be reading gingerbread and their sense -- and it looks like they're also picking up the HT -- teeny. And Cheney machine I think parents about restaurant -- an -- name is -- like it and it's probably a code name and Cathy and Scott I think you'd be -- and -- -- with them to the beauty of it to me this is a ten inch tablet -- ten inch tablet that can be running Android two point alignment and powered -- into court Qualcomm process act. And they're saying that -- work with that describes islands between marriage and dad inhaler earth yet -- stylus. And it's also said to be eighteen -- first four GL PE device though it -- I mean I didn't I do agree that it's. You know if this kind of ridiculous expect people to pay extra for this yeah I use a few things make -- trying out the stylus a little bit. It's not like -- the pact -- if -- actually you'll. I was -- actual moving parts unit so yeah yeah I understand why ate well I -- online. I think my problem with then turned to be fat eighty dollars for that on the HTC fire and if being -- -- accessory for that evoke the union that. These tablets -- -- They're not big don't have the -- comparisons they don't they're not running -- -- into. Honeycomb you know they're they're right you're paying more they're -- -- -- Vera hey don't understand why a -- would need -- throw -- in with the tablet or. You make it less feel I feel -- Yet as they could mean iPods and to Europe and the -- this as their excuse of them and it -- -- -- -- -- -- -- excusing that. He wanted you wanted to provide an option for a cheaper option because they they say is perfectly usable without it. Shares -- of extra. Phil is just cheaper but those who don't we don't you don't need it yet to be if you want if you need you as you can get it but -- at the same time like well I don't offer two options. Right and also there are one selling point. Re on a -- light and classifying. In -- event via yell at this thing it's highly doubt it. But again and mean there is telling -- what the wife I fire is still around now 500 -- is something that so. And and -- still a lot of money for and -- lesser than it. Management and -- -- -- and we wrote with their dollars. He read it and there are -- -- I love the device via. Up but I have to think up up up up thanks but there's a and -- Yeah we know him the sound effect boxes in this the end of with their ideas and options but yeah they'll be using them against other show yet mention that. And then moving on T-Mobile -- And the remaining roadmap for 2011 was also leaked online. This is from the my -- and it looks like. Again and trade is added the most popular thing rarity now but they HTC sensation forgy. And we should be seen that. In June they're -- June 8 so hopefully. We will get women's news because everything -- -- device. Look like we're also gonna get the successors to that myTouch three G slide in the this is a code named the double shot. But he'll probably go buy it though my touch four G slide and -- have a dual core processors that are three point seven inch display an eight in the compact camera. -- also be a version of the wildfire as switch -- At mobile world congress. This -- -- an entry level device they're calling the HTC marvel now and has -- 3.2 inch display -- eight. Hundred megahertz path -- there. Also on tap is wildly -- seventh when tablet with. -- court possibly. And I think most people be interested and what's being called Hercules infant Hercules which is. A similar version of day as Samsung in peace four G which is AT&T. This we'll have Android two point to be a four point five inch screen and dual core one point news gigahertz that's. And and to thank. There -- couple other devices from algae the Macs and Mac Q. And he had anything about those local. I know it sounds into stinging again you'll have a -- actually Indian creek he -- relations law -- I think -- can -- that -- -- mean because he doesn't eat you alive it. A pretty keyboard phones for moon Android anyway that -- just think -- As filthy and looks like we'll have an -- to opt in the science -- -- -- the Optimus T ninety. Yet. And looks like couple blackberries as -- Yes yes going to be a few blackberries actually need I think is the one of the -- -- variable text of the science that many world. And is expected to come out with them in August as long as the next iteration of the curve -- -- named Apollo. One knows at this isn't this is of of most interest to me anyways the Blackberry could include -- that's basically need the touch depend very touched. And it's no it was Sony's display -- anti -- owners that object and processors. -- megapixel camera and it's interesting to me even though the it's. Leaked the romances. And only seven. Now we haven't heard about some I think act act act -- illicitly six point one. But I don't know if that's the credible and that yeah -- -- an event planning on OS seven landed on the road or something that. Well we'll see -- It since then the new bold touch will have seven and now you may be there in their ram. I wouldn't even though it's gonna be limited all of the new devices -- -- analysts and data -- it. It's tiny and it's not gonna have a site at security like to know -- -- -- -- is a conflict if its arm but. Hopefully not as. -- but he like the -- Married below lots of devices coming on the road especially this summer. And -- -- Couple official announcements starting with the Motorola Droid X you for Verizon Wireless that was announced today it's gonna be available online starting. Tomorrow and then in stories on May 26 for 19999. With -- year contract. And this is replacing their first joint -- and offers a couple of improvements first it has four point three inch QHD touch screen. As well as as well as Nvidia's tegra two dual core processors so this will be Verizon's first dual core phone. Out there and it's can be many Android 2.2 but they said it will be upgraded to gingerbread. Also has eight megapixel camera and they said it delivers 44% faster shot to perform and -- is available tomorrow. You can -- online. Underlines marrow and then -- answer is the 26 I remember about -- Original being such huge found in the hands anonymity larger than life science on the screen here boy yeah this especially big picture I think it's probably going to be around the same size as and original -- -- which. You know it was it was rather allergens. Kind of heavy battles with you we should be getting -- -- you know. I think what's disappointing from people is that it's gonna be three -- only you know no four GOP here's. United activist noted disappointment. It is that disappointment in he just because. And you phone this year especially peeking from from Verizon -- you -- you blind and a phone they'll -- -- two years antique US again if you want opponents which you know and it ends what is being you know the these companies start working on these phones along -- the -- come -- -- you know so they can include all the latest technologies and I. At that point they probably should broaden out and you know with soul brain and -- -- -- we already have old scheme available for Verizon. So clearly you know somebody was on the yen. As possible at the at this point and I know we've been waiting for this -- for an effort that display and might -- for the Droid by -- -- Right -- that had a dual core and -- when he checked. And -- Mimi some people don't want -- as soon as it and it does it mean does -- have features like a 100000002 point three right commitment and it doesn't it two points -- It didn't -- but it will be allocated TT point three and some other people are complaining about the lack of a front facing camera. Ending that kind of a -- there. Point because I don't think everyone you know was called they think that our video -- -- something. -- that you are in addition -- front facing camera for video calls sometimes. You just -- take a picture of your self portrait yeah that's you and it's really hard turning the camera around entrances and Harry are gonna am instead of having those yourself until you have a relatively decent. Candidates you -- some of the front facing VG isn't that Korea just very screening and man. Yeah tech talk I just made it a point in the tavern he says you know he wants for deep they can't afford it -- -- -- two very different words though. There's that point you know he sure -- you get their -- that comes with forty's now. Good point. And then on the same name may 26. At the Sony Ericsson exterior play is also -- -- -- -- her eyes and this is. -- the PlayStation phone. It'll be it'll also be 200 eyes with -- contact and we'll come preloaded with seven games including Madden and a eleven. Bruce -- dragon warrior -- and three. In tetris and there'll be looks like more than fifty games available for download -- launch in the V -- App Store. The -- I know you took a look at the PlayStation and -- Worried that bacteria play. Where I would use the -- -- premiere national passions and it. And -- diet and -- for the gaming anyway and I think you know the interesting thing about it -- -- playing games music asking for it and make. In yet an iPhone -- an iPhone in fact. The testing is cool but it does limit the kind of games he played that you can -- Button matching tech teams that matter and found -- and -- game. Common -- was this lends itself to that but one mechanisms of it is that it still uses a touch interface -- -- -- these Q. Brown -- touch sensitive circle -- they used to control and distilled touch sensitive -- duplicate tests and if it's still like using a test. -- -- -- His simulate the joystick and right right tree in -- an -- and his brain is just that in if you wanna move away from the whole testing thing used to using a text and an it was it was a little. Off team that. I I did -- it is fishing using the actual buttons that an actual phone keypad actual. -- controls on the side those were really tech time he used. Sony BD that they use those and that of the that will round analog controls and -- -- -- out if it it would do that appealed to sound gamers want and others I think hello I think those -- looking for. Street for a PSP might be didn't mean it. It's not that it doesn't have analog -- stake is Connecticut asking. If you could eat it up until now am really curious to see. All of this in the coming of -- in the -- -- And I I feel like if you're a gamer you just might get the PSP go or Tanzania in the end of this -- will see -- -- it will that goes on sale again on May 28 expert 200 dollars. Also I mean this was in the lineup but actually LBL affiliation is with -- with -- -- next. -- -- They gave her eyes and yet they had a hand yeah me. And refresh their memories and county governments in that was that -- was. Sort of -- beat him in this basically it -- the eighty for a Gphone as well but didn't does not have a dual core aren't there -- yet right so it's. But it does you know it's pretty simple -- is display. And is nice sixteen gigabytes of internal mammy nodal car but it does have a feed as of the Wi-Fi hot spot of that. Bluetooth keeping up -- megapixel camera on the back so kind of mid range phone compared to -- -- its act. -- We'll that's command the -- and boost mobile is also entering -- three new Motorola phones. The cold at the -- and -- Yeah I mean -- small communities who enter one's alive it's basically a phone for are those who want to prepaid. Optioned the -- not -- -- -- -- -- -- Indignant and chronic -- -- digging in his Allen missed seeing I am I don't know when. Lambert didn't put a night and you can't accidentally gonna -- -- happened so Motorola introduced the new -- the Motorola cuts. I for -- -- by the essentially updates he in the match yet again it's endemic candy buyer. And when PTAs. Saint pushed tot. DPS and -- -- and unfortunately you VT camera. -- Now we didn't want -- Put up I can't for the TV I had. Done good. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Yet the one point in a picnic and it is a little better. But -- -- -- -- Said an excellent if the iPhone once you. That is a basic flip and who is VT DPS. And push to talk as well Indies of relatively basic and has -- to unite them about that you know pretty affordable. The cloud and where some 500 dollars log in communities and. And a note again that sprint is phasing out its I didn't network -- -- digital phones being introduced to it. Fab right hello earth happening in -- of their grand fathering a man cares what. What's happening that it -- And that those are available really to me yet and -- clutch is available today. Elk. Cool and next week we -- taxi gonna get a preview. Windows phone -- Domingo update which is they're bigger update. We -- and got it. A preview of what's to come and mobile -- congress but they're slowly kind of sharing some of the details on this week earlier this week they talked about from the new business features. And -- -- new capabilities include office document storage in the clouds he can share and store documents and office 55 as filed. Windows -- skydive. -- now -- an email folders to the start screen for easier access. An email yet. Will have conversation view and you can also search for older messages on even though and then on your phone you can search email server for them that's pretty offense yet. Hi there have been many times -- and haven't been able to -- and pathogens. Nice to be able to do that term and that some of -- that they talked about at mobile world congress with third party multitasking which is huge. A -- for Internet Explorer nine as well as Twitter integration into the people's -- Though. We will get the full scoop on an event Tuesday may 24 that's pretty early attempt to get -- -- -- but Maggie and I will be there until live blog -- who. It deftly took back and for all the people -- And yeah I'm itching here's a little bit we talked about it and greens a little bit earlier and -- -- as -- with these devices. Tesco has discrete. And an explanation explanation on all the different types of displays that -- -- Americans can get pretty confusing you know it and. Winner. -- -- -- -- -- that basically they're -- -- proprietary names like super and led laugh and -- and super healthy median of and then there's more theaters and the reality screen. That I didn't include in this round up from Sony Ericsson. And there is another screen -- -- keeps me right now yes. Net there is another -- announcement -- for now there's display conference going -- and Los Angeles and -- -- and there's even yet another one this is all -- Changing -- the fast paced world of -- -- technology. And it's really -- if you're like me and you're not rip the the blame buck than in -- You hear these terms like pixels per inch and you're like yeah I understand what that means but. Really -- to dive a little bit deeper -- understanding what it means that when you're saying at the super Amylin plus fairly. Rates. With flash usually yeah. Super LCD it not sound super are all just get an island that's gotta be bad right -- and so. I didn't have a little turn and I called up and some people I called up a lot is being at night practice and -- expert and then. I also talked -- some of the manufacturers. And press prize Apple didn't really get back to me but there was a little bit of information online it. Some of the specs for the retina display and a Apple iPhone four were pretty -- -- -- I just kind of went through and sort of like. What are the names and and -- they mean and you know what does -- what does resolution mean is resolution everything now it's one thing but actually. Are all of these compliments -- -- together into creating that we can that are really awesome screen. In the three about -- Kent my tail like a gorgeous brilliant it looks crystal clear. And Akron and I think it helps with the tone and then in the sense but there are actual. In very technical terms like women and hands that. And are now. Hold onto -- color gamut full -- -- tricks and sub pixel. Now that he correspondent if they really get it on a regular person chopping for the enlightenment actually exactly what I want to know it can't see it because we read -- it's gonna have a for green screens -- display. -- he asked with -- first time accurately heard I used. On -- phone to describe the unannounced for the trade by -- and hand through with QHD -- the revolution and obvious part -- together. And that's -- a -- -- iPhone four in the LG Optimus black that's coming out. And the pimping out the ads here and mention the Motorola -- -- Ford G all of -- -- -- basically kind of show how how. The ingredients fit together to create a -- screen. And what it means you know at that ended the day are you going to buy -- -- specifically for the screen. No probably not -- If you're deciding between two phones and -- -- slightly better screen. That -- issue in that favor but also I think just in terms of technology in and we -- strive. Understand what makes something -- -- on building on previous generations of technology. What can make it even -- freedom especially when have dual core you know. We -- have Quad Core fans in the future like Nazis so this is definitely about. Very important technical -- event. Kind of a primer -- explain what it is and -- that actually means in terms of being able to read taxed and the images and watch your videos. But the very interesting processed for -- -- If you have any curiosity at all -- -- check -- out in the Gannett company and I think there is you know a lot of consumers what does that mean. There at that file and. The I am paying and movie and Jessica Alba had a great puny. About Google Voice and an increase. This has been live for about you mean where Google Voice -- -- -- -- app we first heard about the feast day. They partnered you -- it gives sprint customers -- -- To make it easier today Google -- features like call for rating visual voice mail and cheap international call. These are really get there were a couple problems. I'm users had -- -- reports on mine and I got in the way. Vincent decades is the senior product manager for Google -- And I spoke to him several times -- -- -- then the man behind from the if -- at that Google. And and really friendly -- and it. -- Refreshingly candid conversation. About that so there is secure in -- and -- I was kind of asking about these techniques and -- and one of the things we touched on Liz. The third now -- on. Bermuda Triangle of Google's service -- Google customer service which is basically that they like to source -- an online documents and they cute and things like -- it's impossible to find a real person if you are an issue. Though some people -- -- a sprint in the same as we talked about injury if your problem. As it cares all that manufactured on earth. Ago likewise if you have a problem it differently than people were happening every time. -- -- -- change they found that they were making a change to their service. In on the spring customer service and there was certainly a lot of education and if there's the -- on the back end that. Customer service in government like if you you of these specific internal and the one that they removed app and need to -- -- -- one and then. People stuck and that's currently repeating -- where there account wasn't associated any longer and make an enable it anymore. -- -- -- -- We spoke about thread that was the main problem and it with green -- in urethane this is definitely in -- -- separate experts working permanent effects. -- wasn't expected behavior now. Again that's not going to be free and they're everywhere and buy -- he also mentioned that most users don't -- -- problem. I hope it's affecting ten -- -- hundreds. Another issue that I was around -- And that's specifically mobile to mobile calling though. We got a question a couple weeks ago I mean answered on -- podcast which was if you switch to Google Voice. Will you be able to use the but it will implement well the minute you know come out of your equipment that basically you're calling for video on its -- We get for imminent threat back in -- in your bank and -- and I and it was. Yeah of course mobile to mobile calling -- and -- that answers a little bit -- -- life. Because -- are few ways that you can sign up for -- -- think that integrated. And if you choose one abandoned -- and if you choose the other when we party have an existing Google Voice number you kind of in old yours -- number into that. Then actually sprint doesn't know the -- -- Google Voice number is part of their network because the number opposes -- landline. Now if somebody's calling -- -- calling me and she's on sprint and I'm on sprint and using Google Voice as my primary and number. As are -- her -- concerned it's just calling random landline number it's not calling in in network number. So there's that and more. On my Q&A. And it needs to be some and how TV users. Because I mean it's a little it's a little bit there -- I kind of I I didn't want actually ran into frenzied buying and you can find out on CNET TV. It. Calling it and -- I am here. Do and that president complicated that it. That -- have been used for this week we're gonna take a quick break and then -- that repeats. -- Welcome back we are gonna dive into reviews -- -- lighter week but we do have a couple starting with the Samsung infuse orgy for -- T which I took a look at here. This is the one with a four point five inch super Amylin on its screen. And and four point payment and payment one of if not the biggest screens that now -- turn right out its tablet yet. -- we were getting -- into that territory and but would. -- nice thing about -- four G is that -- made it really neat and it's eight point nine millimeters and what's occurring in. -- Smartphone in the US. For now -- so it doesn't feel too overwhelming in the hand. But it. It in is. It is but it could be -- if there's one thing I'm -- it it's still relatively light though. The screen is gorgeous and makes. It great for viewing video it's Debbie VGA those those sometimes the text looks a little pixelated and especially web -- and -- images on web sites now. And that's something I noticed. This is also. Wouldn't let AT&T'S fastest or G device it's capable of and believe 21 -- -- taken down. -- everything else with fourteen point four. Didn't see anywhere near that. Amy Amy Newman was the fastest that we've tested compared in -- -- -- -- and inspire -- but. Compared to other carriers -- still really closely you as the one disappointment of this device. Otherwise I think it's a very and ordinary. One probably actually their top Android device right now. It's running Android 2.2 which is -- little -- -- but it. And they're not saying anything about updates but they think they're just being cautious because -- -- but to -- history. With their -- date though they are going to record anything. It does have a one point two gigahertz single core processor but it learned to be fast enough to ease the phone you know its dual core -- it. Offers good performance -- And also importantly is good battery life -- Lake at that very solid device if you can deal with the size anything get it through -- -- That is infuse -- -- let EM attachments in life that he used for city. -- much gas paint pictures in one minute it's very -- -- -- for beginners for Android because it has and then that. -- they would like iPhone look you know with -- that was not accidental. -- And I know I think that was brought up in the yeah. It does it does look very much like it does it does but it imminent does make and -- easier to using especially for newcomers. But. I know. A lot of people hate it with tailored to -- -- don't blank cut didn't have I I don't I don't really have a problem with it in anything to becomes an issue when it does -- software update. Which they can with in the board room. I think I is usability I think out of all the -- continue -- and I don't think fascism and at least intrusive. -- competitive compared team. Motorola -- area when it. It wouldn't be an. End but and Ewing and decree also -- -- a couple of G phones where AT&T. Yes so these it might look very and that's because there yet another one of those entry level out G Optimus phones. I think I -- that the Catholic seminary now fine and don't have an elegant look a ton of them. And it has seen essentially -- same respect the design is very similar. It's essentially for -- newcomers the -- when UVs an entry level phone. It has that only he had to make -- which processors in the super speedy but it doesn't -- 5% VG and it does have Android 2.2 inches. You know not Android two -- -- but it's pretty good for entry level. And this at the Wi-Fi hot spot capability. And it's only the like fifty dollars and is a Hughes whose agreement from -- heat. I just my only issue was that it does come to those eighteen T apps like those meetings you -- you in eighteenth he. Found relocated or something in those are not. Uninstall -- -- on on mobile. Becoming the -- of its knowing that says one of those these suits you give me the US senate -- around the globe the -- uses. It. You know for -- for the price I think it's really dead. My only problem within I used in San Francisco. DG on the corner. I was not getting the G -- it was Alex is a terrible. -- like a minute or to the rampage at an I music that plan -- Does come -- it had been but you know just terrible speeds that went. But you know for the for the private things -- And the next phone I looked -- if the LG varieties is essentially the same phone but it's. DPP version so it's gonna be more expensive upfront is -- on 150 dollars up front but. No no contract prepaid you know you feat achieved change providers and tank. It just acquired cool phones smart -- -- package. This is US I think I have problems with it is -- -- -- -- for 500 megabytes. Than next to down is fifteen dollars for 100 at the -- is five dollars for ten megabytes. It does not sound like a lot at all. I understand it's you know prepaid go phone -- -- you have to -- skin NC for these communities that. Virgin Mobile offers two -- five dollars on limited data. -- The prices about the scene features -- the -- it's an optimist policy won't get much -- and armistice you gonna get -- for a year and data package its nearly. Dead London is of course is that algae thrive as GSM -- the peak had -- GSM. Then now I -- -- is the only option at this point. In the budget level that does not have. Mobile hot spot to bully because it's a typical phone to go phone prepaid phones -- it in offered. That service -- -- -- package. -- -- -- And that. Upcoming reviews I've got to murder -- it. Two and he's mean Motorola Droid X Q coming he either tomorrow or Friday so that we look for that review. And evening -- I guess I'm gonna be testing out about -- panel and -- about operational and -- -- -- isn't buying. Replenished. And I think I got to be getting -- would be -- -- be getting the experience me. And ideology emissions and speak with. At and and that lets move on to meeting even -- Sure aren't just one from -- It says I've noticed that -- offerings from HTC and Motorola seem to just be the same phones over and over again. Verizon especially things guilty -- this that an -- which seems like the -- with a little extra under -- incredible syrup and now with the -- acts to. Which looks like -- exacting. And he says it also seems that when it rains down falls. Would be identical devices -- -- no imagination. Do we think that HTC and Motorola are in danger at the same pattern. And then he also wants us to comment on Verizon's line quote -- -- crappy. -- -- mean it's a good point eight I don't think. I think the difference here it is. Underlying software that HTC and Motorola you -- irony Android and -- windows phone or whatever and making a the software offer some advancements very you know they keep updating the -- where. And I know it seems pretty safe that they keep going with these models but they're also updating the hardware and we. You know with better screens and processors and I think. Up till that recent Blackberry Bold am I think. Rim hasn't been doing you know with the torch we thought the same elements screens same processors -- -- part of their problem I think. Although the design did look different. It's just a plant will get me touch screen and in the articles binding -- and ice -- think HCC and my relic -- me. Improve in that department to take -- at some risk but I think there's also so there's -- limitation with hardware and what you can do with it though. But it and don't release he AC CM going. Now necessarily means path they think it's kinda hard peasants know there's stuff that there -- -- a difference. Eighteen doing. I mean. I hate him a debt that has -- -- of movie of the problem with the storm the -- music. -- at the same kind of -- photo again. Whereas they need is to see in Motorola's yes it's the same phone -- Def Maloney. Feed that -- a problem that issue. And the same time it's a really solid -- to begin -- that civilians and salt but to begin at. -- having -- a little bit of improvement and that even though is essentially the same phone. It's still pretty good value depending on of course your carry on that. I think these new phones that didn't -- his back Larry doubles and readable touch may be -- will be different. And I haven't seen them obviously so that could be a different thing. But I think that the big problem really with -- and this is just me I think it's the software. I think this get a heart -- mean I'd I'd I'd have no problems with the hardware really for me it's mostly to do with the software. Not assess -- they -- it -- in general. That SOS president of the crappy phones. -- -- -- -- And I mean I think maybe they played safe for -- Is you know going with the you know the successors to existing devices but I don't think their crappy I think they just kind of play it safe T-Mobile kind of goes out. On a limb or sometimes a little bit more I think -- and yeah I wouldn't common crappy cell. My personal preference I mean you think it's crappy thing you can be handy -- if you -- AT and Bethany. So then -- -- and also asked why the company is trying to market green phones and and shouldn't. Well basically why did he tried American screen phones and and basically what's up with -- ink. So I mean sure I think that there is a little bit of marketing gimmick along with this but at the same time when you think about it it was one of -- photographers James Martin that this really agree. -- -- -- -- they'll of the mind that has all of these sort of prairie you know metals and materials that are used in a lot of electronics. And I guess. Other I I don't ordinarily stopped to think about what goes into the phone. And what it also takes to decompose at -- -- that you have to recycle your phones in the separate -- nation just throw them away. -- I think that anything that you can -- you to sort of reduce the amount of resources and the load -- on -- environment both for clean -- And also for production I mean if it's a good phone why not all things being -- costs about same but -- In -- takes your resources to produce antsy decomposed -- I'm all for it -- asked pursuing ink and that they can to that a little bit and the regular -- petroleum based. I just when asked how many people keep your phone boxes lying around. We need -- packaging is something that gets thrown around. Right away so I don't really care what the packaging is made and I don't need it's the last of that dissolves in an improper -- But doesn't really matter to me if I'm keeping the phone. And so. Soy ink decompose as a little bit faster and again its its -- from -- material that's considered much more sustainable. So that's my understanding movement. The heat and yet I am not trying to speak for diamond I think -- -- -- -- asking why. But it wound all the phones thickness by Leila on the iPhone Idaho -- -- is green it by only one and in Simpson replenish -- everything the 700 V. Meeting the yes I would be nice and I don't know actually. And I don't yet have any ideas. Expense expense yet expensive expensive and at. It's a little more labor and and fans I think you now. Inability created erase. -- But a you know I implied you know the companies that are doing in an -- -- most or all of them include. You know a recycling envelope or -- in the back in there making steps towards making boxes. All I global and the thing I don't like are all of the give -- -- -- out on. That make you believe it it seems like at this one subsection that only cares about. An eco friendly material that's right and they out all of the stuff like with a replenish they have the full sprint ID pack went all of the -- -- -- -- as well -- But on the idea packet with things like treat her nearly everything was new years is mere directory -- -- murder recycle things and appliance but. I liked it I don't mean Blake -- -- being. In true feeding natural -- music -- you like it money. I humbled because I. And when they big environmentalist but -- -- something it's an issue that's really important to me so I appreciated having those resources on the so. You know. I. Environmentally friendly news. -- -- I mean I didn't have the device long enough to say I don't want this -- that you know but again I appreciated inclusion -- I thought it was overkill and meet with play a lot of things that they do on found that they market for specific demographic you know. I am and iron visa's senior -- -- found that had all of these stretches them. In and others soothing music and this and that and I think that some of the features can be really handy but it also seems like a lot of others are just filler. So I guess my issue is mostly with manufactures and in carriers trying to market to specific demographic and then try to define the behavior of that demographic on the -- And -- and. I think that does it for this week you can send as hear opinions and questions to dial in at cnet.com. And you could also lead to -- voice -- at 8664022638. And you can check out our past episodes and blog -- thousand dot cnet.com. And other podcast -- podcast at cnet.com fill. I think that'll do which we'll be back next week at the same time and can should be back from -- them. We'll have the whole group whether. Luckily I'm gonna -- And that we're out these kids -- -- that movie I ever and I. -- --