CNET Live: March 19, 2009
CNET Live: March 19, 2009
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CNET Live: March 19, 2009

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[ music ] ^M00:00:09 >> Coming up on CNET Live, IE 8 is here. >> And so is the iPhone OS 3.0. >> And that's all the version numbers we have for today. But we will have your calls and emails. CNET Live starts now. [ music ] ^M00:00:29 >> Oh. >> Go, go, go. >> Hey, welcome to CNET Live. I'm Tom Merritt. >> Is that what we're here for? >> Yeah, that was just some spreadsheets we were working on. >> Excellent, with bouncing basketball players and everything. That's cool. >> There's a boss button on the CBSsports.com. >> To make it look like you're doing something. >> Yeah. We're just pimping our owner's product, because we want more money. >> Please give us a raise Mister Moonvus [assumed spelling]. >> Welcome to CNET Live. I'm Tom Merritt, he's Brian Tong. Molly Wood's with us. >> Yeah, don't bother me, I got money on this Cal game. >> The Cal game's in halftime right? >> Just joking. >> She's paying attention. I heard the whistle, I heard a whistle. >> Molly is dominating - >> It's true. >> The office pool. >> - the office pool right now. >> Well you know why? This is why I'm dominating, cause it's my first ever March madness bracket. I've never done it before, and everybody knows that the noobs always win. >> Brian Cooley is not with us today, because he's probably at one of the basketball games. Cause you know he's a huge sports fan. >> He's gambling on one of them. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. We're taking your calls and questions as usual. 888-900-CNET. 888-900-2638. So I think our lines are all full up right now. >> Yep. >> But as soon as you hear somebody get off the line, jump right in there and get your question in. >> All right, let's go to it, right? >> Well first - >> Well yeah. >> it's time for things we Crave. >> - I meant going - ^M00:01:44 [ music ] ^M00:01:48 >> These are some of our favorite things from the Crave blog at crave.cnet.com. I'm looking at this Lenovo Yoga, which is, it's not an actual product yet, it's some mockups that they're doing. It's very slick, very cool looking. But it's a new take on the Netbook cause it's a tablet. And you can actually like spin it around and use it as a tablet. >> What's that thing, the belt? >> I believe that is for clipping it onto your belt. No actually I don't know what that thing is there. >> I've seen some other photos of it closed actually, and it looks like that belt kind of goes around maybe to hold it closed, and also for a style. It's sort of like leather wrapped with this belt thing, it's very gorgeous. >> It is classy. >> Yeah, it's very classy. It's a little long, they call it a pocket computer. >> That will not fit in your pocket. >> I mean unless you got those big old overalls with the real deep pockets. In which case it would kind of ruin the whole style thing with the Lenovo. >> Clearly, so that would be appropriate. >> I think I've seen Brian Tong wear those. >> Yeah, but you wear them all baggy, right? >> My pockets look low cause they're hanging off my butt. >> What have you got for us Crave wise? >> All right, this is a waveform bracelet. Now these are totally geeky, but the original intention was for parents to get these to their kids kind of as a reminder, kind of encouraging messages. But you can actually, yeah exactly. You can actually go to a website and record like a six second message. >> I believe in you. >> And then it makes this waveform bracelet, and you can rock it. I think it's kind of abstract. No one really knows what it is except the owner, which is what makes it cool to me. >> I love this thing actually. It's so geeky cool. >> Exactly. >> I wish there was a way to like read back the waveform - >> How to play back - >> Yeah, like some kind of scanner. Hold it up in front of your webcam and it could play the audio. There's got to be a way to decode that. >> Well you've seen those bracelets with the USB built, you know, USB bracelets basically. You could combine the waveform bracelet and a USB bracelet, and the USB bracelet could hold the song, but then the bracelet could be the waveform of the song. And then - >> Oh, it's like one of the broken heart things, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Where each one of you have a piece of the song. >> It's the new mix tape. [ laughter ] >> It is, the mix tape for the twenty first century. What have you got Molly? >> I get to do one today too. I actually, I kind of dig the spy gear. And in this case I'm all about this new Spark Nano GPS tracking device. It's not as small as say like the ones the CIA have. But it's small enough to definitely clip onto something, and or go into like a kid's backpack is what they intend it for. And it even has a panic button, so you know, if something's wrong or you're in danger, you need an adult, you can hit this little panic button. >> So it's not, you're not surreptitiously putting it in the kid's backpack, cause otherwise they're not gonna know to use the panic button. >> That's what I was thinking. >> Well you could surreptitiously put it into the kid's backpack, but then they'd probably get mad at you and resent you forever. >> And then if the kid wants to be lost, then they just dig around in their backpack, find the thing, and chuck it. >> Yeah. >> Attach it to a dog or something like that. >> Or a train. >> Yeah. But yeah, attaching it to a pet or you know, a car to keep track of your spouse or whatever, I just think it's kind of neat, in a spy way. >> All right, very cool. Let's go to the calls, get right into it with Nathan from Pennsylvania. Hey Nathan, welcome to CNET Live. What can we do for you today? >> First of all I have two kind of comment kind of things. >> Okay. You say you have, wait a minute, you have two comments and a question? >> Yeah. >> You better pack them in fast then. >> Quick things I just heard while I was on the show here. >> Okay. >> I like the setup of the people here today. >> Why thank you. >> That tracking thing, yeah, I'm fourteen years old and I would like throw that thing somewhere far, far away. >> Yeah, but I'm saying you could use it, and you could put it in your mom's purse, and then you would always know when she was coming. >> There you go. >> That I would use. But I'm trying to figure out how I can get my computer's hard drive like anywhere. >> So you got your computer at home on a network? >> It's connected to the internet, yes. >> Okay. If it's always on, so you have to leave the computer at home on, there are a lot of different services you can use to access that computer. Of course you'll have to - >> For anyone? >> You'll have to install something on there, and you'll have to install something on the other side. Logmein.com has a free version. That's the one I showed off a couple weeks ago that you could use. And then I don't know if Go To My PC has a trial version you can use. >> I think Go To My PC has a trial version, but it's pretty expensive. But if it's a Windows machine, there's built in Windows Remote Desktop starting with XP. And so that is already there and free. And it actually works pretty well. You do need to I think maybe know the IP address of your home machine, but it shouldn't be too hard to get to it. >> Yeah, my problem is I'm looking for something like I can enter in like an FTP address, if you guys know what that is. >> Yeah. >> It'll access my computer's hard drive like over Internet Explorer or Firefox kind of thing? >> Well you can do that with a router as well. A lot of routers have the ability for you to tunnel in from the outside and remotely access them. So if you wanted to buy a router, they're only around fifty bucks, obviously not free. And the other way is to go searching around for some VNC clients, open source, and you can just VNC into your own machine that way. So hopefully one of those will work out for you. We'll put a few of those in the show notes for you. On to the next call, Randy in New York. Hey Randy, welcome to CNET Live. >> What's going on? >> Hi, thank you for taking my call. Just want to say I love you guys' show. >> Thanks. >> Everything you guys do. I have one weird question. >> Uh-huh. >> Okay. >> Yes you do. >> I have a computer, I have two monitors, one of the monitor's is not in my view. How would I be able to view that second monitor on the first monitor? >> Well why isn't the, I mean cause everybody in the audience right now is like move the other monitor, then you can see it. What's the setup? Why is it not in your view? >> I work on a desk, so one is mine, and one is for the customer to see. >> Ahh I see. >> - to see. So I need to know what's on that screen also. >> Uh-huh. So you've got two video cards in the computer I take it? >> Yes. >> And one of them's going out to the other side, and one's coming into yours. >> Yes. >> I don't know of any software ways to take two monitors and put them into one, two screens into one like that. What you, there's a few workarounds I'm thinking of. The hardware solution is what's called a dual screen splitter, but that runs like three thousand dollars. So that's not immensely practical unless you get your company to pay for it. But you could do some sort of screen capture off of the second monitor, and just have the screen capture area set to the other monitor, and then view the screen capture within your first monitor. So, Jason Howell uses the screen capture software, or used to before we got the tricaster to do our podcasts, it's Cam Twist [assumed spelling] was the screen capture? It's Cam Twist and Wire Cast, I can't remember which is which now. Okay Jason says Cam Twist. So you could do Cam Twist and just set the screen capture area for that other monitor, and have it feeding back to your program and monitoring it on the other monitor. See if that would work. I haven't tried it, I'm just making that up as I go along. >> Are you using a PC or Mac? >> PC. >> Okay, then I had a, I mean for Mac users you could actually use iChat and kind of create a video chat, or essentially a remote desktop chat and be able to see that other screen on your screen at the same time as well. But you know, that's for Mac sides. >> And then actually Matt B in the chat room pointed out you could just get a third monitor and split off the signal that's going to the customer monitor, and have that second monitor sitting on your desk. Cooley sometimes uses this little USB monitor, so you could do something like that. Again, a little more cost involved there, but that's another way to go about it. >> Okay, where do I get one of those USB monitors? Can you just tell me that please? >> Where can you get them? >> Yeah, the USB monitors. >> Oh yeah, you can get them on Amazon or go, I've seen that Shopper.com has them. Molly? >> Yeah, it looks like they're about, they start at about sixty dollars. Startech makes one, Kensington makes one. Just basically USB VGA external multi-monitor. And you know, I just Googled it, it looks like Shopper.com definitely has some, New Egg, and - >> Mono Price has them too yeah. >> Okay cool. Thank you very much guys. ^M00:10:00 >> All right, thank you for calling. >> Keep up the good work. >> Thank you. Hope that works out for you. Coming up, more on Microsoft's latest version of Internet Explorer. But first, Apple debuted its latest operating system for the iPhone on Tuesday, and Molly was there. ^M00:10:13 [ music ] ^M00:10:17 [ background music ] >> Hi I'm Molly Wood from CNET.com here in Cupertino, California at Apple headquarters. Apple has just given us a sneak peek at iPhone 3.0, the next version of the iPhone's operating system. >> Cut, copy, and paste. >> First the big news. iPhone 3.0 will have copy and paste, really, really fancy copy and paste in fact. >> You double tap onto the text and it automatically selects that text. You can see it puts these little grab points at the end of the selection, and then it automatically puts this cut copy paste bubble directly above your current selection. Now let's say that I didn't mean to paste that, or I typed something I didn't mean to. All you have to do is shake to undo. [ applause ] >> Actually Apple showed off several features that were on the top of the wish list for users, namely multimedia messaging, finally, and the ability to use a landscape keyboard in all the built in iPhone apps. >> So we're adding search. >> In addition, iPhone 3.0 will feature search across all the built in apps, including mail and calendar, which will make the phone a lot more business friendly. And there's an all new systemwide search called Spotlight, of course, that searches everything on the phone, from applications to mail, to contacts to music. >> I'll go ahead and search for let's say Tim, T I M. So if I tap here on Tim Young, it takes me directly to that contact inside of the phone application, and there you could dial him - >> For developers, Apple announced that you can now build in micropayments. So you could buy an application like the Sims 3 from EA, and then within the game buy add-ons with just a few taps. >> Now here you see the indicator for [inaudible] commerce, so we're gonna go ahead and purchase that. >> Apple also finally rolled out push notification, so apps like instant messengers, or even sports alerts from ESPN can be automatically pushed to your phone. >> And as you can see, I just got a push notification from my girlfriend, and she's asking if I can grab milk on the way home. >> The new developer kit also features hardware communication, P to P networking for sharing files or multiplayer gaming, and much more. ^M00:12:10 [ music ] ^M00:12:15 [ applause ] So what's missing? >> I think we were really hoping for tethering, and a lot of the rumors said that we were gonna get that. That's not the case. And in the Q and A afterwards they did say well they're working on it, they did kind of hint at that. We'd really like to see Flash, we'd really like to see voice dialing that's not through an app. You know, there are apps that allow you to do that, but I don't think we should have to pay for that feature. Would really like to see the stuff on the phone living natively. >> Apple says the new software will be free for iPhone users when it comes out some time this summer. But iPod Touch owners will have to pay nine ninety five. For more details on the new OS, go to CNET.com/news. ^M00:12:46 [ music ] ^M00:12:50 >> Well we'll put off the speculation of whether there will actually be a new iPhone along with this new software, as there was last time with iPhone 2.0. But you have managed to get hold of the developer version of that. >> Yeah, so I got to whip it on my phone what, maybe like a day ago. And so I've been able to play with it, and first impressions are it is a beta, there's still some quirks about it. But it's a lot snappier than I expected it to, but it's not super crisp like most iPhone users are expecting. But you know, I love the new search built in, and kind of some of the other candy, you know, like the copy and paste. >> Looks totally like the old one. >> It's exactly, it's exactly the same, it looks exactly the same. >> So can you demonstrate a little bit about what's going on? >> Yeah, without a doubt. So I don't know which features you guys would use the most, but essentially your home screen looks the same, you do a little swipe. >> Ooh. >> I know, it's just - >> You can swipe the other way. >> Yeah, now you can go the other way. This is visually like probably the only thing that looks different right? And so from here I can just type in a term that I want, and it'll instantly search through my entire phone, and it's a universal search, so it goes through like my contacts, you can see like some of my emails and my calendar appointments right there. So I think that's one of the beauties of it. The search is also available directly in like your mail program. But it's, even on this beta that search is pretty snappy. >> What kind of things were you impressed by Molly? Cause you were there at the announcement. >> Yeah, I was definitely excited about that, that systemwide search. I think for a phone that is as useful as the iPhone, and you can load so much into it, it's really important to be able to have kind of one landing place where you can organize all that information. And I think honestly, some of those features about making email and calendar more accessible, making them searchable, there was a little bubble about how you might be able to start creating meeting invites, being able to search your mail alone, and search your calendar alone I think are gonna be huge for business users. So I was very happy to see that. Obviously I was thrilled to see copy and paste too. >> So and also landscape mode was another one of your bugaboos, right? >> You know, I personally find that because I even, I'm a tall girl, but I have relatively small hands, and I find that the landscape mode is a little too big for me with the keyboard. But I know that people really want it, and it makes the phone a lot more useful for other people with bigger hands. So I think it was a really important addition for them. I also think some of the changes they made to SMS, like the ability to forward and delete those messages, and then of course the multimedia messaging. It's really, it's really great, it seems like a little thing, but to be able to text a photo to someone is just a big deal, that was a really, that was ridiculous frankly that it wasn't in there sooner. >> You know, some people have said oh you could do email, you could send your photo by email, but people don't check their email all the time. If you send an MMS, it pops up on their phone right away. It's the instanteity. >> Yeah, instanteity. >> I just made that up. My instanteity, yeah. >> But you know, it's coming out in summer, so we have a long ways to find out you know, other new things. And you know, they have a long ways to go to still you know, get it back to speed. >> Yeah, it's kind of buggy, right? >> Yeah. >> I mean it's a developer model, it's meant for people to program on, not really put through its paces. >> Yeah, and my iPod functionality is crashing right now, so yes, it is. >> And I have to say some of the things I'm most excited about with iPhone 3.0 aren't the things that are consumer facing, it's some of the developer things that were introduced. Like being able to do the micropayments is gonna lead to some very cool apps. And they did, you know, interestingly they decided not to do turn by turn globally with their own GPS app, which I think is a little bit lame. But it is available in the API, so we could see some pretty cool Tom Tom Garman apps you know, coming out any minute now. >> I think the nice thing though is that the people that do GPS the best are gonna be able to use this. Cause I know some people wanted turn by turn within the Google Maps, but to have Tom Tom kind of throw their own interface, and actually be just a GPS experience that we're used to, that's what personally I'd kind of prefer. >> We had a listener write in to Buzz Out Loud and point out that Google Maps actually licenses its maps, and the terms of use prevent you from doing turn by turn directions - >> Within Google. >> - with this, because it's not owned by Google. So you have to re-license the maps from Navtech if you actually want to do turn by turn directions. But there's an open source project out there for maps that developers could take advantage of if they want to do it on the cheap. So I think we'll get some really interesting applications out of that, I agree. All right, thanks everybody. Let's move on to the Download of the Week. ^M00:17:02 [ music ] ^M00:17:06 >> Download of the Week is brought to you by our good friends at CNET's Download.com, providers of spyware free software, and this morning at twelve o'clock eastern time, nine a.m. pacific we were treated to the new release of Internet Explorer 8, and I've got it right here. I'm using it, there's a slideshow up at CNET.com if you want to get a look at it before you go ahead and download it. You want to evaluate whether you want to use it or not. But there's some cool little add-ons to the IE 8, some actual features that haven't been done by other browsers before. A lot of times when we get a new IE it's just oh they've added this and that, like tabs or something like that. Suggested sites is not an example of that, it's an old familiar one actually. But just like some of the other browsers, it'll look through what you've surfed before, and if you let it, it will look through a database that they have, and suggest sites similar to the one you're on. So I'm at the Download.com's slideshow, and they're suggesting maybe free downloads on ZD Net, free downloads from Download.com. So yeah, that works pretty well. You can also highlight items, and you get this little blue icon show up here that allows you to take that highlighted term, and either blog it, map it, search it, or send it in Gmail. So I went and I found an example of an address here. This is the CNET address. So 235 Second Street in San Francisco is just in this news story. Click on the little blue icon there, and then map with Google Maps, and it'll take you boom, right there. >> It's got a lot of contextual you know - >> Yeah. >> - settings from an actual [inaudible]. >> So that's pretty cool. There's also this web clip thing. >> Web slices. >> Web clip is the Apple thing. Web slice, that I couldn't get to work in mine. But essentially what it's supposed to do is you take a, you hover over a section, maybe an eBay search result, and you save it to your favorites bar, and then it will keep you up to date - >> Whenever it changes, right? >> Like what the prices are, people search or people add different items to their queue. Whatever it is you've bookmarked that way. Final thing is up here in the search bar in the upper right. They have now given you the option to add these icons here, like for instance you can see just up there in the upper right Amazon is in there, New York Times, Wikipedia. You get to pick what goes up there so that you can put in an item and then decide, oh actually I want to search for - >> You want to search it - >> 235 Second Street on Wikipedia, and then it'll give you some suggestions, or allow you to do the Google search as well. >> Yeah, I thought the coolest, the web slice thing you know, like you said, we haven't been able to see what's interesting because they said every time there were updates, you could collect a bunch of these different slices, kind of put them in a list essentially whenever updates happen, it alerts you, much like an RSS feed. So. >> Time to take a quick break, but we will be back with a new competitor to the Macbook Air, and more of your calls. Stick with us. ^M00:19:47 [ music ] ^M00:19:52 >> Watch every game from the NCAA championship live online for free with NCAA March Madness on demand. But please use with caution. ^M00:20:02 [ music ] ^M00:20:19 [ background music ] >> When the biggest stars meet the biggest laughs, they come to Dave. The Late Show with David Letterman. >> Why are we laughing? >> I'm not sure. >> Weeknights on CBS. >> Welcome back to CNET Live. Tom Merritt, Brian Tong, Molly Wood with you answering your questions, taking your calls at 888-900-CNET. What do you want to do now? >> Maybe we should take more calls? >> I think that is a fine idea. In fact there is a line open, it just opened. Somebody dropped off, where they went, we have no idea. But that means you can call, 888-900-CNET right now. Meanwhile we'll talk to Joseph. Hey Joseph, where you calling from? >> I'm calling from Ohio. >> Oh where in Ohio are you? >> Wooster [assumed spelling], it's about half an hour or so, forty five minutes out of Canton. >> Oh okay, I've been to Canton, pro football hall of fame is there. >> Yeah. >> What can we do for you today? >> I was wondering, I'm gonna, I'm saving up to get a Macbook, and I was wondering if you think it's worth the upgrade to go from the baseline white Macbook to the baseline aluminum Macbook? >> Should I just chime in? What, you know what? I think what, more than anything stands out is what you want to do, or what new features you want to take advantage of. Because with the aluminum Macbook it's really having the touch pad where you can do a lot of the gestures on it, and then getting, taking advantage of the integrated graphics card that is better for gaming on the Macbook aluminum model, versus the previous model. If those things aren't as attractive, maybe I would push you towards the classic Macbook. But I'm not really sure what else, or other things you might want to do with it. >> Yeah, I was thinking probably some light photo and video, being it'll be my first real Mac, I got an old eMac from my uncle, but I can't really do anything with that. >> Yeah, yeah. >> And so just a little bit of playing around with it. I think I'm gonna try and get Spore for it if that's heavy gaming. >> Yeah, it's definitely, yeah I mean Spore, I wouldn't call it the most intensive game, but you definitely would want to have a better video card to take care of it, cause there's a lot of action, a lot of different characters going on with that. So if that was one of your priorities, and you know, the speed bump is nice, but it's really to me the graphics card and the touch pad that will kind of put you over the top or not if you want to go for that. >> Okay. And when I get one, do you think I should wait for Snow Leopard? >> Well we don't officially officially know when it's still coming out, like datewise. >> Yeah, and if you get, if you're lucky enough to buy it near the release date, a lot of times they'll grandfather you in and let you get a free upgrade. Snow Leopard's gonna give a slimmer operating system, because it's going to not have to interpret all of the old non-Intel instructions for everything. And it's gonna provide some stability upgrades, there's gonna be some exchange support, which you don't care about. So you know what? I don't think you have to worry that much about it. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Thank you. >> Thanks Joseph, appreciate the call. Let's move on to Chris in Wisconsin, who has a very in-depth question. Hey Chris, welcome to the show. >> Hey guys, great to talk to you. I got a Western Digital My Book, it's a one terabyte, I want to turn it into a [inaudible] with that Adonix [assumed spelling] adapter you showed in your video there. I was wondering what I need to do to prep the drive to work with Time Machine, as well as media for [inaudible]. >> Yeah, you know what? You probably want to format it HFS, well you're using a Mac? >> Yeah, I am. >> Yeah, that's what I thought. Okay, so you're gonna want to format it HFS, because Time Machine needs to be using, that was a stupid question asking if you're using a Mac if you want to use Time Machine, wasn't it. But Time Machine works better with the HFS, and then there's some weirdness to get Time Machine to recognize that NAS drive. The Adonix I'm a little worried about because I haven't been able to get it to have sustained copying rights over the network. I can you know, take small files and drag it over there, but if I try to do like two gigabytes of stuff, like a whole folder, it starts to lose its connection and have issues. So I'm not even sure if it'll work with Time Machine at all. But if you did get it to work that way, or you found another way to do the NAS, you're going to have to do some tricks on the hard drive to get Time Machine to work with it. I've got a couple links I'll put in the show notes for you. One involves creating a sparse bundle image on your local system and then copying that over, another one I think essentially does the same thing, but you create an HFS volume on you're My Book, and then you copy over a couple files to it, unmount it, remount it, and then Time Machine can recognize it. But a lot of times Time Machine just doesn't see these drives right off the top. >> Yeah, that's what I was worried about. Is there a better solution then? >> The only better solution is to buy the Time Capsule, you know, plop down the five hundred dollars or so for that. So you know, if you just want to save the money, this is worth trying. I don't know if the Adonix is going to be your best bet for a Time Machine type of thing. You might just want to look into finding a router, you might get a router that has a USB connection with it. There's a Linksys router that I have where it has the USB connection and you can plug it in, and it's a little more stable than the Adonix. >> Okay. >> All right, thanks Chris. >> Thanks a lot guys. >> Appreciate the call. Dell just rolled out its finished laptop yet and Dan Ackerman got his hands on it moments after it was released. Take a look. ^M00:25:35 [ music ] ^M00:25:39 [ background music ] >> I'm Dan Ackerman, and we're here with one of the most buzzed about laptops of 2009 so far, it's the Dell Adamo. Now Dell is pitching this new thirteen inch, it's very thin, it's very light, and it's a very high end luxury product that may not be the most timely idea in today's you know, recession sandaled economy where everybody's buying Netbooks, but the production cycle on a new concept like this you know, can take years, so you can't always control when a product is gonna be ready to hit the market. With that in mind, there's a luxury high end product, the Dell Adamo hits a lot of the right notes, it's less than an inch thick, it's about four pounds, which is light. Although when you pick it up, it feels a little heavier than you think it will just based on the small size compared to other systems like the Macbook Air that is sort of similar in shape. It's got a lot of brushed metal accents, it's got one of these nice flat key keyboards, although it's a little clacky, has a little too much flex in the keys right in the middle, and it's very minimalistic. There aren't a lot of lights, only a power light, these little media control keys light up, and the keyboard is backlit. Got the cool edge to edge glass on the display, although it is very glossy. You pick up a lot of glare on that. And on the sides there aren't a lot of ports and connections. You've just got a headphone jack, and a thin card slot, which is the first time we've seen one of those on a laptop. Meanwhile on the back, and you can see this little lip stays open, even when you have the lid pulled up. Now you've got a couple of USB ports and an ESATA port, and a display port adapter. Dell is really getting behind the whole display port thing, although you can get dongles to connect you to you know, HDMI or DVI or anything else like that. Now Dell says the Adamo is the thinnest laptop in the world, and by one reading they're correct, but it's open to interpretation. If you take a look at the Adamo, and you compare it to our friend the Macbook Air, you can see they're actually just about the same size. Now the Adamo is one height all the way across, while the Macbook is tapered. It's thinner in the front, and a little bit thicker in the back so that its thinner part, it's a little thinner than the Adamo, and its thicker part, it's a little bit thicker. So who is the thinnest laptop in the world? Well that's kind of a philosophical question. So starting at nineteen ninety nine with a solid state hard drive and an ultra low voltage processor, the Adamo is not a laptop for everybody, but it's a bold move from Dell, and we're sure it'll turn up on a lot of high end wish lists this year. [ background music ] I'm Dan Ackerman, and that's the Dell Adama. >> What do you think of the Adamo? I'm not really that blown away by it. >> It was an exclusive, but it didn't kind of shake us you know, like we weren't like oh my God. >> Well let me put it this way. If Dell's thinking this thing is going to rehabilitate their style sense - >> The funny thing about it yeah, is I consider myself a little bit of the arbiter of laptop style, and that thing did not look that pretty to me. It was just so industrial that it wasn't, it didn't, it almost didn't come off high fashion. It seems like it's too sparse, like maybe I need to see it in person. But it just did not do it for me, I'm sorry Dell. >> All right, we're gonna take one more call. Apologies to Nick, Zach, Phillip, and Abe. I'm sorry we weren't able to get to you this time. We can't always get to all the calls, but please do try again the future. We'll try to help you out. But Bradley from Vermont, we do have time to take one last one, what can we help you with? >> Hi, by the way first, I'm just huge fans of you guys. >> Well thank you. >> Real quick. iPhone, I just got an iPhone 3G, and I'm wondering what cases would you guys recommend? >> BT, you're the man. >> Do you want a hard plastic case, or more like a softer case? >> Well I want to kind of keep the look of the phone. >> Okay, what do you think about this case? Do you know there's a case on this phone right now? This looks like the iPhone 3. This is the In Case case. It's their slider, it's probably my favorite case. I probably tried on maybe like ten different ones, but I like this one the most because you can drop it, it's thick enough, and also it doesn't really take away from the design of the phone. So if I had to go with one, I would choose the In Case slider. And I'm not promoting them, this is just the best case that I've used. So I don't know, what about Molly and Tom. They've had different ones too, right? >> Yeah, I mean currently I have this kind of black market case that has been discussed recently in the mail bag, and I like it because it really fits right on the back. I'm doing some investigating to see if I can figure out where it came from. Because apparently someone got it in the Philippines. I mean I know that he did, he said I got this for you in the Philippines. But it doesn't have any branding, so I'm trying to figure out who makes this, because it really, it is by far the kind of most form fitting one that I've had. And I gave Tom the other one that came with this that's black. I don't know if he's still using it. >> Yeah, I was using it for a while, but then I got an external battery that didn't work with the case. And I stopped using it cause I was putting it into the external battery all the time. Then I just stopped using the case all together. I don't even use the case any more. >> Yeah. >> I needed a case cause I stepped on it on the street and it [inaudible]. >> Tom, maybe you should send our caller your black case that you're not using any more that's cell phone fitting. >> Yeah, you want my black case? Email cnetlive@cnet.com. I'll send it to you, I'm not even using it any more. Totally, it's all yours. >> There you go. >> All right, that's it for this episode. Thanks for listening, thanks for watching everybody. We will be back next week. >> That's right. >> And you will be back, right? >> I will be here. >> Four p.m. eastern time. >> One p.m. pacific. Molly? >> Ten a.m. Hawaiian? >> Yeah. There you go. >> See ya. ^M00:30:37 [ music ]

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