Best of BOL: iCloud, Wii U, and Apple's spaceship HQ
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Nintendo introduces their next gen console the Wii you Apple unveiled plans for a giant spaceship like campus and also ripped off a developer's idea and logo.
Plus -- date keeps most of congress off of Twitter all of the out of more coming our print out the back and into.
-- Nintendo press conference as we're starting to showed just wrapped.
And when -- new announcement of the Nintendo Wii you which is either a new console and a new controller or a new controller.
Or some combination of both that we value does throw right you Brian Tong the live from the show floor.
Controller and as Australia now we're.
Inside the Nokia Theater in Tennessee is right behind you guys can still see the logo.
And we just wrapped up and when you guys are trying to really figure out is what is the -- you is this just the controller.
Is the console well it's really a combination of both but the only thing that antenna could showcase here.
Was the actual controller -- the six point two inch.
Touch screen controller basically had a lot of the mechanics like an excel -- under a gyroscope. A camera on it so you can almost feel like.
Is it a tablet but this is a controller companion.
With a new we -- system the key thing here is though we did not care about any price seen or any hardware specs for the entire system.
In the videos they said -- -- -- kind of a new slickly designed we type console on the side.
But again we don't know how it's gonna be talking to that it's just kind of a concept and a tech demo.
That'll be showing out here -- some other cool things -- with game play the really trying to.
Innovate and -- things the next level really give developers and poison tools -- playlist so they showed using this new Wii you controller they're tablet controller.
Like like a screen if you're using a sniper rifle or to use it as a platform where if you're playing golf and you looked down.
You could see the sand where your golf ball is arresting and and you could swing it with the Wii -- so it's a companion that -- -- dual screens with different content.
On that with the Wii console but again --
-- everyone was excited because when you see these concert videos it looks amazingly like old is gonna change everything but that when you think about it.
Without any pricing or how waxing and -- uses how many devices like in my house.
-- that's -- -- the questions come up and we'll have to wait and he really more around 2012 Nintendo's adult officially -- more details like pricing and release date info self I'm otherwise really.
We come here to come see some cool stuff beneath it is with innovative people are excited about it but will they actually -- -- -- time.
I think because the kind of blows your line with how you can play games that's really cool but how does it translate to the casual you know consumer.
I like the idea about -- -- someone wants to watch TV I can then take this controller this Wii controller and walk away and claim again I think that probably has the most practical use out of everything we saw.
People are excited but without any price or -- real date you can't really get your fingers or your your head around.
If I really want this right now are not I think people are excited but it remains -- -- -- all plays out.
Test. The big thing that -- -- is waiting for a Steve Jobs came back on stage to announce.
The -- cloud.
Service which we every --
We're talking to Apple's attorneys and patent office right now it's -- we -- I think enticing to -- -- it's not in the cloud it is generously speaking.
A re imagining of the cloud at it as it has been described to us so far because.
When Google described the cloud and living in Chrome all at everything lives on everything lives on.
Functionality and data.
And wherever you are you're doing your your you don't have you have no local storage right order processing and data in the cloud Apple is using the cloud as --
As the road.
Not as a garage if you will you traverse it to move things around you don't store anything -- your -- doesn't stay there it moves across it to get to where it's going.
It's a different thing and -- vs you -- little.
So it's not confusing enough yelling go ahead -- anything better this nonsense of calendar contacts as an analogy that we're still what is free and you stay on me dot com it's free now for those core functionalities -- -- part of mobile me the calendar contacts and email -- and they sing good no more 99 dollars -- we hear that there will be refunds and or store credit when Apple MacBooks and all your contacts and calendar and email item sync across all your devices with.
Whether -- desktop or mobile like Google.
-- like Google.
Documents will also sync across here within the family of -- work right and you still have to have the app running natively they don't become web document and it doesn't become less about not cool you just -- edit -- -- you -- -- -- and -- from any device is assigned it is.
Just thinking you still gotta by the Apple -- -- suite to edit these docs.
Okay though we'll put those photos -- this was a charter operators -- -- huge huge WTF off Mike.
That's very confusing so photo stream -- generous.
On the new one using -- I'm trying and trying and trying to meet and not a bad idea. Photo stream of cool.
In that sense that when -- take photos.
It puts your whole digital camera roll to the collapse -- you take pictures of your iPod Touch -- the -- iPhone.
It thinks the whole roll and then it's on your computer to a thousand photos on the devices --
On one limitation on IOS.
Able only store the last 1000 products.
And is that -- then all the all the photos that are in the.
Also on the -- this is the only part of the cloud that is truly cloud where they're actually doing storage for you write everything else the sync is the only storage piece that I picked up on yet.
It's thirty days' worth of photo stores the last thirty days when a photo of its 38 it's deleted off their server.
It is still sync across your devices but now it's your problem --
It always was your problem and their problem and that the thirty days to become your problem only to keep that -- -- presume you've got two or three places now.
So in -- sense you're running your -- backed up but it's not clear.
It's not a simple -- an average and then there's -- like -- -- then let's say you go get a new phone -- new iPod.
Are you get an iPhone but -- now all those photos that were on photo stream have long since been deleted and all -- many thirty -- -- past.
I don't know if you're ever gonna be able to think those old photos with your new.
IPhone and in theory to -- -- on the server and -- you keep taking pictures sourcing if you keep taking pictures the thousand photos on your device is also we're gonna roll the oldest ones off the back.
Rights -- -- you're losing photos in both places at a different metric won his days won his file number but either way.
It's giving you this movable infinity pool of files are always rolling off one -- that's --
Yeah man who's gonna think about this -- to sit here and count photos.
Uninteresting to me.
Now that's really original device you always took the photo -- will always have it a thousand photos I don't I don't care summit got a lot of.
Right like -- it's just the photos on your phone nobody's gonna think.
What's weird about this is that none of it becomes cloud storage in the burden of storage is still on your devices and these devices when -- -- don't have expendable storage is a little bit of storage for a brief while what is confusing.
And of course the fact we have iTunes wireless sync means that becomes my true repository my photos are always sync back to iTunes at least that's my back --
But it's a complicated story of where's my stuff --
I don't know where's my stuff and when and how when -- -- expiring device iTunes or server.
Okay I don't know that it's messy and I know but the average consumers -- look at this and -- while -- it's very un Apple like an aptly out of it's really.
Confusing and -- -- and a lot of questions are unanswered and that we haven't even gotten to the music.
Writely already a lot of which goes unanswered easy their what's going on and then they get to the music there is so that day in the three big apps -- -- -- that I work.
Thinking that photo streams thinking the wonderful thing about it seemed as though is that does think -- Apple TV that you have Apple TV.
Bennett get your whole punishing there and you can link you would not airplay is not device to Apple TV its cloud server -- Apple TV again.
When what you have on although barely different from -- -- yeah that's less reliable ultimately because you don't know what and I -- unilaterally there now if the music.
Here we --
Things that Apple -- -- three super simple to almost usable via K that he now -- on the TV too much confusion you have your iTunes music.
And then you can you have a purchased.
Pain in nineteen and -- -- your desktop software and on your devices and it will show you a library of everything that you purchased through iTunes and you can read download all of that.
To every individual to -- the the first time I've -- -- -- look back and -- -- download that arguing with them and calling customer service -- -- I think if you live in this universe.
All your devices -- Apple devices that some of this -- that I think he is going to be a great teacher and it's a typical don't lift the hood Apple except.
The the photo thing.
Is gonna you know you organ donors are -- to -- people are gonna lose pictures that is just bizarre.
And if they don't use iTunes wireless sync which I'm sure many don't they're gonna over there's -- repository to find those photos via.
Attorney and I don't understand showing us that to lower except the end of a few hours thing.
Showing us a tour and a huge data center. In North Carolina and then behind you what's in and have room for or to store your products.
The -- -- latest don't have the agreements or the model -- they wanna do that I think there's another issue yet to drop again they're innovating only as fast as they have to to get all of us to slavishly cover their event and make headlines again today this is this an almost cynical about about this announcement not intentionally him but the attitude that they know they can take they can -- only as much as they need to.
To get lauded again across the world for the next forty an -- I do not see that happening and I really don't.
Cern scientist in same -- to the web was invented by the --
The Swedish or -- -- means to do -- to whatever LC aren't stands for and --
Have trapped anti matter.
Which is like seventy minutes longer than ever done it before -- anti matter has been damn near theoretical outside of a few milliseconds of its existence and now they've actually been able to.
Haven't existing in some kind of -- charged -- but over the measure this stuff for seventeen minutes that's pretty amazing.
The story I have around this.
Is that I learned about anti matter in -- physics class at Berkeley all my cal friends you all Motorola and Intel hall which is a rotating stage very cool.
From this guy who looks a lot just -- -- -- the low in Chamberlain.
In his staff photo from 55.
People this up Stephen.
Emma Graham here on look at him a good job today going to -- -- did you look at -- knowing that you can -- is a great guy and we had the classic physics staff photo of the day we -- its pipe.
Various. You always -- -- a pipe and serious patches on his elbows because that's how you rolled in those days.
But he taught the class in this site in this physics course and the day he taught anti matter is as long two hour lectures are horrible lecture you are and -- falling asleep and -- -- the very end as he finishing up.
The discussion bubble -- president program and is -- protons and dismissed and that's how I won the Nobel for discovering antimatter in 1950.
-- -- -- --
You're the guy that discovered anti matter you're teaching an undergraduate course you.
Owen Chamberlain --
Argue all he was a -- lecture.
But he's got -- discover anti matter you're teaching undergraduate physics he didn't get what he toting -- -- them but graduate stuff and work in labs and you know.
Those it was -- is that it was critical when --
The so we have a Geico just quietly humbly do is gonna -- -- thought -- and -- opens programs.
It was great that -- --
Just as recently as last fall expect scientists were only able to record the presence of anti matter for fractions of seconds -- -- fifteen minute.
I'm not -- it's good for maybe it takes out stains but it didn't implement.
There may be right -- the street over this but facial recognition the latest thing that FaceBook turned on by default the it is.
Facial recognition for tagging and -- so that they wouldn't turn it on automatically that it would they would roll it out some users and get some feedback can figure out -- something people really wanted.
Announced that the -- it along well you got it like that feature and they do.
I got to that they specifically we're like we've developed -- technology. We're not -- it to turn it on for every one.
-- and feed and but it it is so if you don't think now and well literally faces are involved in the title of vote the product right.
Facial recognition right.
Security firms so phones and many others expressed concern that -- but facial recognition technology had been turned on by default -- but acknowledged.
As it always does I mean really --
Wildly invade your privacy.
-- a semi -- colleges. Four and then under.
Well what can animate then -- like we matter privately -- easier though for you to find the ways to turn -- -- which really is just like most often -- -- ever.
We made it easier we introduce these I -- screens and radio buttons right here's the -- the --
Anyway according to these security analysts FaceBook is rather -- believe.
Pushing your friends to go ahead and tag you -- but did not to be any right to pre approved tags however the onus is on -- -- -- tag yourself.
In any photo for anything against Ehrlich if -- uploading things mean in -- -- it's embarrassing -- apart and that minimum.
It's embarrassing well.
To be fair though -- -- your friends are to blame.
Like it's like FaceBook as -- as suggesting photos that they know you're in and saying hey you're this person's friend biology tag them in this photo.
And then there though that there there's actually the human element there that makes you tax rate -- not automatically just seeing every photo.
And seeing if base and then automatically.
What about -- wonder is that there's that because people are saying that it should concern you because so for example what if about two protesters go marching -- -- any country that does not appreciated -- --
The secretly take a photo of the group and then uploaded to FaceBook and then use the recognition system because of -- Hewitt on a public photo not the part that's -- -- companies upload the picture from a concert.
And then -- but it like that over the air as Bob Jones a matter of an -- of Donald Allen -- -- there at least has meant the matter over there of the you know try Apollo and like on an on and on.
Then there is secret police could displace Apple in this photo.
This video system does he was on America and weighed about roundabout -- distant if you are smart enough to kind of gig -- gear up for protests you're smart enough to put on your Molly -- mask and -- and out of the protest.
And make sure all your friends that -- them I would -- to.
And that the -- out of face recognition things -- even worse yet a senior at lake in turn your friends tagging you without your permission.
An artist doing that all the time anyway because it acts like -- I know I can tell you how many times there's been some awful photo from high school -- showed up on my profile.
And in the new speed and it's just like.
A load and and and -- it that is just basic protocol -- if they need asked me first before you upload pictures from high school.
That a lot -- now. They want to.
Steve Jobs went before the Cupertino City Council this last night and -- which would like.
Huge news all of itself is anytime he appears in public -- legal.
And then enabling you -- you -- over the City Council to basically asked them for.
Permission. Or to kind of inform them that he would like to build a giant spaceship like tax free.
Corporate building that will house 121000 employees right he's he's giving the illusion that he's he's asking for permission when he doesn't -- an academy in that it's not really going to the motion just to be clear he pointed out there was one council member.
There -- like all of the council members were just.
And you look at -- -- kind of -- crumble like here are our suggested.
You know building for the new campus and we could really use with these that he was it like.
-- -- -- -- --
Steve Jobs. -- swagger and wellness while not in Tel one councilman had the temerity that they like woody unity for like we have to bring lack.
And many would like.
No doubt that that is not an accountant and benefit is that actually -- -- taxpayer in the city in if you want we can got a Mountain View of in a minute in -- -- -- and you like.
We don't actually have we have some video the video is pretty into things can play a little bit I -- queued up --
The campus we'd like to build there.
Is one building. Holds 121000 people.
It's it's pretty amazing building -- show to.
It's like a spaceship landed and equipment at their it is.
And it's got this gorgeous courtyard in the middle.
But a lot more so let's let's take a closer look at it. Palm.
It's got curb its its its.
It's circle. And so it's -- all the way around it's you know if you build things this is not cheap suite builds --
And -- let -- air hey I -- where Apple.
Fayette hospital immediately funny -- lying and it's great it's -- it lets you Tina.
In Brussels is so -- to see him so out of context of where -- he used to seeing Steve Jobs.
And does not in his element not giving like applause after every fifteen militants but still PodZinger though some of the got -- -- curved.
Andy's wearing the same clothes from the keynote the other -- -- -- -- having a -- of an all black turtleneck and legions.
He does right and that.
Libraries. That's the case -- he did say that there would be among other things a big auditorium there are so they wouldn't have to -- slot and -- -- temperatures -- yeah landing literally via satellite -- we haven't keep going into our conferences in San Francisco -- to have space that -- into our campus.
So this is if this actually does -- constructed is where you're Debbie Debbie -- and such would -- held management -- --
Think so -- and certainly in those.
Much smaller -- now that only like 72 journalists are allowed into it would actually be potentially great for.
Although into the control freak -- he would not go away right but if they can look daily failing to him and if -- and you know.
They ferry Donald gonna have to take pictures and blog and all the new video they'll -- that out of CBS's.
Cool story over at our technical though you know about the it 23003. -- 42 subpoenas that were issued against alleged file shares.
Involving the film the expendable -- download -- that.
Apparently though a judge --
A federal judge.
Basically just -- all those subpoenas because he said. Inciting.
Inexcusable. Lawyer reading it on the part of the let's see they've done look at grub and Weaver a law firm -- -- connecting this.
They basically said look you asked for 23003. And 220 subpoenas.
And -- even -- to serve any of them down like basically he accused them of just.
Asking for the subpoenas to that they can extort a settlement quickening to settlement's -- -- the people are accusing.
-- first you know they launched the country's largest file sharing lawsuit.
Against those 20000 anonymous defendants then they ask for an expedited discovery this was -- week.
Acquire those subpoenas. But once they acquire those subpoenas they didn't even serve them we know -- that's when you hand over the documents they come here and appear on quarter defend yourself for what.
Because of that they were just -- -- that the people that the accused would settle and -- pay off whatever penalty or they were asking for.
Instead of coming to -- they're like world if -- scare them with a subpoena and no.
Probably -- -- -- to the settlement rate is extremely high mean most of these lawsuits.
Does buckshot style lawsuits and almost all of the people subtle.
And so they were essentially doing the same thing and -- and thank goodness got called out -- and the judge said the court finds it inappropriate.
And a waste of -- additional resources to allow -- -- to discover and claims.
Or relating to defendants that cannot be prosecuted in a lawsuit the other thing a bid.
-- they asked for all of these tens of thousands of subpoenas.
And most of the people that they were -- didn't even live in the DC area.
So wouldn't necessarily fall under that jurisdiction anyway into the -- public opinion --
You asked for the expedited discovery you filed all of these subpoenas most of the people under subpoena don't even live here and you just you tried to like use my court for this extortion scheme.
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He added via boom in at a fair job -- judge Wilkins.
Seem happier news.
Oh man a half billion that we love.
If there's one thing that we can think.
Anthony Weiner for.
I don't think -- is very often edits it and yet.
-- a -- if they do that story all week again time that the talk about the --
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
So we doubt we know about if you have -- watching the news we know about.
Represented Anthony Weiner of New York he actually posted his picture of his -- in the trunk. -- not actually -- then later said Dan okay fine it was me what.
Over -- and I'm choking on the leader.
-- -- --
If it's not constitute news.
I'm really apologize I should not come back from the -- for at least humans. There is now ho you -- educate them at.
A chart that shows the detainees. In suites by Republicans and Democrats.
While area right. Here in its. Of that rate -- on I think I'm glad I live.
-- and relays ultimately look at this beautiful chart.
Republicans -- -- -- -- 7% less after -- gates started -- Democrats to its when he 9%.
They were scared they're probably all scared because you -- -- I got hacked and I got hacker.
I don't I don't idle again -- -- they -- a problem and a lot more jump in the -- shots. But.
This fascinating overall they're -- -- -- that would make you wonder what they're trying to hide or if they're just like you -- let the let's get up to date.
-- what many want to play and -- anymore.
Interesting W been following. Any enterprise that the -- thing -- they don't happen and followers -- and did not.
Yes I -- it would garrison I didn't care about -- people all your local congressman.
-- exactly it terribly -- 28%. Or 29% of their tweets were considered adult content does not do that.
I -- -- for the show this week everyone remember to catch by the -- live every day at 10:30 AM Pacific at cnet.com slash live.
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