You may want a VR headset or maybe you haven't maybe you've thought about AR and smart glasses and you certainly have heard of 5G.
We're at the point where a lot of this stuff is emerging, but we don't know where it's going to go.
If you're the new CEO of HTC, and it's great to have you here and I'm super curious as well.
Where is this gonna go?
I mean, where's VR at and where does AR play into that?
I mean our perspective at HGC is very different.
We believe that there is no big difference between AR and VR.
And let me try to give you an example.
When you Evening time, when you go to bed you're awake, you are the reality.
And you switch off the light and and step by step from being awake, you fell in sleep.
And and you don't fell in sleep like that, it's a continuum, you may do not realize but it's a continuum.
Normally, except each of the wake up call which is a very painful experience usually You move from your dream back to reality, and you enjoy life and you have your breakfast.
It should be the same between reality and virtual reality.
What we do believe at HCC, it's not something which is fragmented.
It's not a digital experience.
It should be a smooth experience where you move from the reality to the virtual reality.
So what's so interesting to me is that you see so many companies out there, most people have never worn one of these things but some people may have tried them occasionally.
You see the HoloLens 2 and Magicleaps [UNKNOWN] these high end VR projecting seeming to project things into the real world headsets for businesses mostly.
Then you have, Oculus with the quest and these these things that are trying to become as low cost as possible, playing games VR for the most part, and then vive which has been out there and is targeting businesses a lot as well.
You're trying, and I've seen this trend starting to grow.
You want to bring the AR into the VR.
If you look at the continuum, like put it this way here, you have pure reality where we are talking.
Okay, that's here, yeah.
That's here.
We have the virtual world, which is all those virtual games.
And we have to move from one to the other.
So, either you move this way or you move that way.
So, some people started here and you mentioned magiclip and auuu some people studied here.
And and and you mentioned ourselves and and and [UNKNOWN] what we are doing with a new plate on the cosmos which is called the [UNKNOWN] plate which will be released You do in a few weeks.
Okay.
First to developers because they need to create the content, then they need to, that their job to create with new tools, and then to mass market.
We create a new plate, hollowing people to move from the virtual reality fully up to the augmented reality, ei, the reality one flip away.
So what we tried to do it will be the first plate or the first headset with the Cosmos allowing people to kind of jungle between reality and virtual reality, between the reality and the dream.
You wake up.
And you sleep you wake up and usually but we haven't.
And you can you can position yourself wherever you want depending of what developers want you to do or the way you will interact with with the content.
And and this is what we are proposing.
But it's not enough, because we do believe that this size is not what customer wants, and we will present another headset which is not ready for sell but but ready to use and really to improve, where you will have, the same thing, looking at the glasses, which we call small glasses or But a little bit thicker than those one but Halloween you two have the same same us ages,
Same experience.
The same experience.
How far away Do you feel like your that's gonna be that's kind of an impossible question but like, you know everyone sees like these steps along the way like this decade and you think you?
First to move across the continuum with HTC 2020.
The same glasses have usually end of 2021, early 2022 hopefully and then if you look to those glasses, while it's another journey, it's a journey.
Yeah.
And and you will need other type of technology and the 5G network.
Will probably be very very helpful to have this type of glasses because you will need to use tremendous, distributed processing power.
It's a little bit complicated to explain.
Right.
But the chipset you have, the Intel chipset you have in your PC or the Qualcomm chipset that you may have You're in your smartphone.
You know you cannot have that in your glasses because it is too big somehow or even if it's very small, it's still too big.
It's consuming battery and internet.
So what you will need to have is this type of chipset somewhere
What people say in the cloud somewhere else, not in your glasses and the link between your glasses and you know the big computer, put it this way, the chipset, the big computer you will Probably the 5G will give lot of opportunity to make it real to consumer.
And 5G Network is deploying right away.
Yea, we hear 5G constantly now and we hear about it's possibilities, 5G is saying I know, people are wondering what am I gonna do with this?
Is it gonna redescribe being faster?
Where is it goona show up?
In the world of AR, VR, XR.
The ways that 5G can help sound like as you're describing it pretty massive and in the things that people might think of immediately.
You mentioned latency a little bit as well as a really key thing.
What what other elements are playing in a 5G like, why is that
Such a building block for what you doing.
You're right.
One of the key question everybody had themselves is, do I really need a 5g?
Is it truly a revolution?
Or is it just an evolution where we move from 4g to 5g which is a little bit better.
And that's it.
So And usually when people talk about 5G, they talk about the bandwidth, how many content I can receive and the speed, which is the bandwidth, and the latent See how fast it goes from for me to download a game, to download the video.
Is it something fast and can I interact with the processing pore on a nice way which is more the latency of that.
But there's something else which is to my opinion very fundamental on the 5G and people do not, Talk about it.
Underneath the standards.
You have what, wording which is called ipv6 IP address.
Today, when you have WiFi bulb or a Wi Fi radio, this radio or this bulb, they are not known really they don't have their own identity.
Right.
Tomorrow, the object will have his own identity so do the IPv6.
So, you will talk to an object knowing who is him.
He will have his own DNA.
And this is very important to understand that sensors of 5G every connected object.
Could be your glasses, could be your car, could be your shoe, could be your smart phone with its own DNA.
So which mean that having his own identity, having his own DNA you will be able to interact with the network, asking to the network what you need to have.
Very simple example an object without identity or WiFi radio.
Right
Or a speaker you know a smart speaker.
He is at home and he has the Wi-Fi and you spray the Wi-Fi all day on this speaker.
If you switch off the speaker you still spray the Wi-Fi.
No need because the speaker is off.
Now if you go reverse, if you give an identity to the speaker the 5G network then the speaker would say eh I don't need you, I'm sleeping.
I'm off I don't to spray the Wi-Fi I don't need to spray the network now I;m on I need the network.
As soon as every object and the tracker of you booty starts to have their own identity they may decide to speak within each other without you not know.
Vive has been business PC based and moving more mobile agency, had made phones before and it sounds like there's the blockchain phone and there's some other technology is still being built.
Where do you compare yourself versus the rest of the industry and the rest of the landscape?
We are building the market.
I mean, and I would like to say that everyone, the previous name you mentioned we are hold here To build this word of virtuality and and and we are building the market we started with five to build a market and and now we have, you know, Facebook with Oculus, helping us to build a market and and and they are so welcome because.
All together we will make it happen.
What's funny to think is the way they make it and the way we make it is different.
Early in the 19 you have US starting to build the car industry and Europe starting to build the car industry.
At that time nobody really understood why I should have a car.
We have horses, we have train.
You know, why we shoot of cars?
And some visioner, realized it will change totally the game.
And in the US you have a guy like Henry Ford.
And his vision was, I want to make it mass market.
Designed to be mass market, he had designed to be as price, Less as possible and black.
While in Europe we had the same concern how to make this industry works.
You remember Benz Mercedes BMW Peugeot [UNKNOWN] Bugatti and all those guy.
Their target was to say The market is segmented.
How can we give opportunity to as many people, bringing them the technology they need to make the car industry happy.
And if you look 100 years after, Ford is still here and Mercedes Benz or BMW, I'll [UNKNOWN] is still here too.
The target is.
We need to create the market, there is not only one way to create the market, there are several ways to create the market.
And the beauty is that, we have Oculus creating the market in one way, why Vive is creating the market the other way.
Now.
strengthing is if you look from a content perspective, kind of reverse again, where Oculus it's more segmented content You don't know the content.
It's kind of ala carte content while we survive.
It's vive port.
It's more beefy content where we are not segmented we are going to mass market so it's Is it a bit bizarre to see that from the hardware part Local currencies mass market from the content part segmented and why we are going segmented for the hardware and mass market for the content.
And do you think that's enough to succeed in the end like is that you know, you know that's the question is like you know we where does where does it go from there?
I mean we welcome everybody to go in this Phil, for sure more.
We are.
More there will be some new ideas.
I think the 5G will help.
I think augmented reality will help.
I think all the technology will help.
So, obviously everybody is going here, the b2b market.
Well, industry is going there, you will have some demo.
More and more big company realize that added value for training for Design for a lot of things of oriented I mean for of these continued younger put it this way and obviously the market is growing and there will be more actors and big players and it Chizy is part of it always leading the game and we'll continue to do it to several costumers I look forward to trying out those super small glasses.
I got to test drive those.
Thanks a lot.
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Bye, bye.
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