Amazon Prime Day Pixel 7 Phone Pixel 7 vs. Rivals Target Deal Days Pixel 7 Pro Cameras Pixel Watch Google Pixel Event McDonald's Boo Buckets
Want CNET to notify you of price drops and the latest stories?
No, thank you

Episode 592: Leopard is the new Vista

Upgrade issues, software conflicts, and even a blue screen. Is Leopard the new Vista?

The reports on Leopard include the usual new operating system pitfalls. Some things don't work right, and hilariously, some upgraders receive a blue screen. This compels one listener to draw some uncanny parallels between Leopard and Vista. We also get into Sprint's unlocking move and mull over the success of Hulu.


Listen now: Download today's podcast



Anonymous Verizon defender
Cake and eating it.

Where's Molly?

Will from Maine
Why we get everything before you.

Official bootlegs
Hi Tom, Molly and Jason,

On episode 591 you guys talked about Tori Amos making live recordings of her concerts available for purchase through her Web site. Jason checked in Pearl Jam and confirmed that they were doing it too. There are many other bands doing it also, and have been for years...

Actually, there's a company that specializes in this...Munckmusic ( That's the company that does the Little Feat shows as well as the Allman Brothers Band, Bruce Hornsby, and The Dead.

Also, ClearChannel/LiveNation started doing "InstantLive" ( where you can purchase the concert while you are there and take the CDs home with you. The Black Crowes and Allman Brothers are two famous band that have used this in the past.

Adam in Hartford, Connecticut
(a live music addict)

Bands selling live albums
On Friday's show you talked about whether or not a band could release live content and get around the record labels. A few years ago, the old country band McGuffey Lane wanted to rerelease their first album, which was out of print. The label still had the rights to it and didn't want to do anything with it, including releasing the rights back to the band. They were able to get around the whole thing by releasing a CD called "All The Songs From The First Album" with similar artwork, and a live recording of the album.

Maybe they are too small of an act these days to be noticed by the labels, or this is in fact a way to circumvent the copyright.

The show is mediocre (just kidding).

Andy from Dayton, currently Maui

Netflix can, why can't I?
Hey TMJ,

I only found out about your show a couple of months ago, but I really love it. I was wondering something about the streaming service that Netflix is offering. Now, unless Netflix has a single DVD player with an Internet connection for every customer who signs up for the service, I think they might be breaking the law according to the DMCA. I'm pretty sure they are ripping the DVDs to a server so that multiple users can watch the same DVD at the same time. Why is it OK for them to rip a DVD to a server and not OK for me to rip a DVD to my personal computer? I have no intention of sharing or making money from the ripped DVD. I just want to make backups of DVDs that I own under Fair Use. To suffice: Netflix rips a DVD onto a server and shares it with whoever will sign up; for a profit. Imagine what would happen if I tried to do that. Am I missing something here?

Andy Buford
Longville, Louisiana

Leopard release like Vista
Hi BOL crew,

After listening to episode 591 where you spoke about the release of Leopard and compared it to Vista. The more I thought about the more your comparison is correct.

Let me explain.

1. Apple: People with OS Tiger don't see the need to upgrade to Leopard
1. Microsoft: People with XP don't see the need to upgrade to Vista

2. Apple: Much hype before launch
2. Microsoft: Much hype before launch (Cirque Du Soleil et al)

3. Apple: It looks pretty
3. Microsoft: It looks pretty

4. Apple: Good to get if you're buying a new computer
4. Microsoft: Good to get if you're buying a new computer

Maybe as you said Apple is becoming the next Microsoft. Let's hope not. I like both Operating Systems XP and OS X . I just wish that Apple would do something to increase their market share and deflate some of the ego in the Microsoft Campus.

Jimmy from Barbados

About campus viewing
Hey Tom and Molly (and Jason),

Thanks for putting up my call on Friday (ep. 591). In response to your comments on fair use...I looked up how that all works, and for the "educational exemption" that fair use cites, you have to meet six very strict criteria. One of these is "part of a lesson plan or syllabus" which (as this is not a class, just a club) is not really possible. As far as I know, our school doesn't pay any blanket license for showing films (even the films they show for free to students in our cinema are individually licensed by the university). Even my professors were stunned by these crazy requirements.

Here is an excerpt from the guide that is given to our RAs:

Is there an educational exception to copyright law? Yes, but it is very limited and does not apply to the residence halls. In order to qualify for the exception, the material must be:
From a legitimate copy
Part of the course curriculum/syllabus
Shown by the instructor or the students
Shown in a classroom or place reserved for academic instruction
Shown at a non-profit institution
Shown only to teachers, students, or relevant guests
ALL of the conditions mentioned above must be met to claim this exception.
So pretty much outside of the classroom, this is completely bunk. On the bright side, all of us in the microbiology club are glad to see that there is someone in the media interested in our frustrations (you guys)!

Jimmy from Virginia

The last laugh
How sharper than a serpent's tooth is to have a thankless technology podcaster triumvirate.

I bet you think you are so smart. But as you sit there in your smug smugliness drinking your half-caf-mocha-latte-frapa-chino and thinking how you have powned me, know this.

It was in fact I who did the powning.

And now is the time to reveal my sinister plan.

Clearly, the Buzz Out Loud show has an enviably larger audience than the Amateur Traveler. So how to get the Amateur Traveler promoted on the air. Clearly this was against BOL policy, so the plan must be intricate, ingenious, diabolical.

  1. Invent the character of "Chris the podcaster" and establish it with some familiar regular contributions to the show.
  2. Convince the CNET management to send the cast of Buzz Out Loud to the Podcast and New Media Episode. This was accomplished through a series of incriminating photos taken at last year's company Christmas party. Eggnog? I think not.
  3. Send a brilliant piece of audio feedback the week of the show so that "Chris the podcaster" is fresh in everyone's memory.
  4. Arrange for a speaker at the show to have an untimely accident so that Tom gets a speaking slot.
  5. Hand deliver fake schedules to almost all the conference attendants that mislabels Tom's talk as "A Case for Cooperating with the RIAA... with root kits" so that most of the attendees are dissuaded from attending Tom's talk.
  6. Offer "helpful" comments during the talk to establish a rapport.
  7. Casually use hypnosis so that Tom and Jason invite me to lunch and think it is their idea and that they are simply "hungry".
  8. Cement the relationship with casual banter and a ride to the airport.
  9. Wait
  10. Submit a very badly done audio clip for the show that is too painfully funny not to use but will instill enough guilt that Tom will feel the need to plug the Amateur Traveler in return.

I cannot believe you could fall for such a simple plot. And now the next time someone is craving the voice of a well spoken, erudite, prepared podcaster they will...oh wait!...oh no! Oh crap. Back to the drawing board.

P.S. Thanks for the plug

Chris Christensen

iPhone manufacturing cost
Tom, here's the cost breakdown on the iPhone.