Buzz Out Loud 712: Windows XP--a 'pre-downgrade' upgrade

Dell, HP, and Lenovo will offer Windows XP as a "pre-downgrade," as a convoluted way to get you out of having to buy Windows Vista. Hear that, Microsoft? The bell tolls for you.

Molly Wood Former Executive Editor
Molly Wood was an executive editor at CNET, author of the Molly Rants blog, and host of the tech show, Always On. When she's not enraging fanboys of all stripes, she can be found offering tech opinions on CBS and elsewhere, and offering opinions on everything else to anyone who will listen.
Molly Wood
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Dell, HP, and Lenovo will offer Windows XP as a "pre-downgrade," as a convoluted way to get you out of having to buy Windows Vista. Hear that, Microsoft? The bell tolls for you. Speaking of "For Whom the Bell Tolls," Metallica is considering all the "Internet options" for its upcoming album (that includes hoping people on the Internet will buy it).


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Episode 712

GTA IV will release and Guiness World Records is watching

Grand Theft Auto receives acclaim

Is the Microhoo wedding off or just postponed?

Dell, Lenovo to offer Windows XP beyond June 30 cutoff

Metallica may follow in footsteps of Radiohead, NIN

WIPO wishes you a Happy World IP Day 2008!

Average Web page size triples since 2003

All the rage in Europe: Firefox market share climbs higher

Science/Nature: Europe launches sat-nav tester

Geoengineered cooling of planet would have ‘perilous effects’


Paula? Sacramento
I have a theory about the ‘press attache’

Sean Georgia - ATE


Hey buzz crew, I’m sure this has been gone over many times, but I’m still stuck on the indeterminate length thing. I’ve been listening for a few hundred episodes, and I’ve been trying to figure out what “Cnet’s podcast of indeterminate length” is about. OK, I guess I know what it’s about, but the title doesn’t describe anything about it, just how long it may or may not be. Don’t get me wrong, I love the podcast, but don’t you think the title should have just a little description of the content? Like “CNETs tech news podcast of indeterminate length”? Just thought I’d float that idea, and I do love the podcast!!

Stillwater, Minn.

Why we don’t have cell phones on airplanes

I was just flying with my wife a couple days ago and was telling her about the kerfuffle over impending cell phone usage on airplanes when I realized a potential deal-breaker. Although I’m sure it’s about as shady as buying a pirate cable box, it looks like you can buy a pocket-sized cell phone jammer for about $200. Which means it only takes one guy on the airplane who really doesn’t want to hear people squawking to veto the whole concept. And nobody would know who that guy was. I would be silently cheering him on.

Just something to think about.

San Diego, Calif.

(Oh, and I am not unfond of the show.)

Facebook chat

It seems that we just finished talking about installing programs against a persons consent when I logged into my Facebook account and was greeted with a bar on the bottom of the screen labeled "Facebook Chat." I never consented to have this put on my profile. I don't want it and I don't need it. Its just one more messenger service to watch, which I hardy use anyway. I understand that Facebook has every right to add features to profiles because it is a free service, but the part that annoys me is that when I went to look to get rid of it, it won't allow me. In the help section it says, "How do I remove Facebook Chat or appear offline," and then only tells you how to appear offline. You would think that companies would get a hint after what happened with Apple and Safari. Love the show.
Lakewood, Colo.