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Tech Culture: CNET Labscast Ep. 21: iPad 3 hands-on, big ultrabooks, and an 80-inch TV

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Tech Culture: CNET Labscast Ep. 21: iPad 3 hands-on, big ultrabooks, and an 80-inch TV

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We blow up some text on the iPad 2 and new iPad 3 to compare, check out some big new ultrabooks, and marvel at a huge 80-inch TV.

Hi -- I think the schedules there every week and thanks in -- governor actually doing the talking about that these cool gadgets don't have right here just -- And -- looks like a case it is the case then what what -- -- -- -- Asia almost any news last week that's right on the iPad three and you can tell immediately to an iPad three not an iPad one or two. You know the difference and and and you've got -- two -- I've got a three Katzmaier and I spent about forty minutes on Friday sitting on multi of the story very quickly. We've said you know how far -- -- hold of your face to tell the difference the higher resolution. And Katzmaier said to me well I usually reader -- and I triple alien dead usually have a far is that. I sat down the floor at the -- my head up against the back of his wall and stretch my legs -- to -- with the tenement bet. And it gets on the floor next to me that the two lesser stretched out in in this Fo bad just on the floor is office leading up. Against the back wall. -- holding iPad that various distances in front of our faces. A to try to stimulate that sort of Reading the newspaper in bed experience. And that was -- sort of iPad two vs iPad three resolution test. I will say -- that that now I'm -- -- you've you've seen both screens now correct. Ma on me about this distance and it and closure and what was your immediate. Reaction to that. -- I -- that -- -- about the be changed immensely. Does a body that's a higher resolution -- HDTV nine. But doesn't I am because most -- this now if they're not and make -- little bit odd unit that it but he -- anything. L 121 plus the right okay -- computer monitor yes exactly site. Facts that it's quite. -- resolution. It's good because I know that when I had the original lines installed to see pixels on enacting it TV -- -- instantly pixels. The fact you can't really see it now is good and bad I don't think that it's patently. That catastrophic Lee that thing added. But you're looking at a lot of photos into video and it's hard to tell he was super high risk photos. I -- with text -- was a lot. Clearer especially if you kind of you pinch in and zoom in if you're reading that fail web site online the good news web site. By CNET maybe or like the New York Times really or an e-book or something else with text on it or the notepad thing actually I made a big difference. But for regular stuff. I could really see it -- Joseph. My life my only gripe is is that they give you the retina display is great that's great but. -- has now please please I would I would I want what I and me personally what I wanted. Was a higher capacity I have a 64 gigabyte and -- keep deleting things when and other things. I have over -- 190 apps that are taking over twenty gigs of space but now he can just read and download them it will once obscure little -- I think -- -- -- I don't want the cloud but that's that's okay that that -- -- people that want the cloud and their people like myself who don't want to -- the whole -- the whole point of having a device like that is not being reliant on anything else. I can be some award don't have a signal I can enjoy -- program. Or to play -- game I don't wanna have to depend on hot spot or alive five please I want to know I can have it and even now I'm updating my apps and their larger. So I'm updating my apps on my general my second generation and they're taking -- more space for a higher resolution screen. So even that in itself. Should say age should scream. We need a higher capacity -- -- some a little disappointed that that the retina display is nice. Maybe they could've kept the camera often -- our capacity they wanted to cut back but I I would prefer 32. 64128. Analysts say that until they do it and everybody -- to be happy with the -- photo of the highlighted for the -- this -- -- -- but I want space. Of what I -- write -- Paper would you pay more for 128 -- is there a month saying that they could -- the Cameron and given me in giving me the higher capacity. Out of okay -- -- how to use the same camera and -- and. -- very interesting now I I thought unleash a picture -- that time -- of what I did was I went to the New York Times website now we're which I read a lot. Ally in fact I'm an actual paid subscriber to. To that. And I took a screen shot of the reader view of an article on the iPad two and then -- did the same things they articles same paragraph on the iPad three. That -- there we go now if you look at this big image -- depending on on the quality of the stream you may be able to see the difference I know it's very obvious to us here in the studio on the left. Is the iPad two. And on the right side is the same text in the iPad three it's like night -- I mean there's really no debating that. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- to a blind person like me that's great because I I actually use my iPad without my glasses but it -- that I got -- if it's very frustrating because they do this do you like every time is that. -- give -- -- slightly better product for the same price it looked -- as the granite -- the retina display is already old on the iPhone so it's it's so it's in me so impressive -- a new thing to the iPad because we've seen it like what we generations ago on the iPhone. It's on the iPhone -- little tiny waiver on to say so it's on the iPhone now the iPad gets it sold basically. Now what the iPhone four -- means to be the iPad four is gonna have series camera series now it's just it's it's very frustrating that the they do this -- you and they make you think they they have people who really love their -- to salivating to have everything in one place at one time and on the surprising thing is the fact that rush forgy into because normally Apple doesn't make things mainstream until with it till it's mainstream. So I think the forgy -- they were kind of forced into and that's -- and -- -- that brought their cost up. And that kind of -- -- may be getting the capacity because. They're too many Android tablets out screaming four -- and when you're out there for those who your iPhone now says forgy on an even though it's not really forgy they change the letter on it any. It was -- there -- people who -- the iPhone four was orgies though. But it did -- the letter. All excellent points. I and I -- can detect if you're real lot is really different and a guy on the I think the silicon Alley insider business and -- -- into a technology business news website. Data Google short -- this morning -- actually liked a lot our guys said he got the iPhone I had the iPad three to the dome of the weekend -- -- gamble looks fine no big deal. Then on Monday he went back after using the new one for like three days and looked at -- -- iPad two and was like. I could even read it it was so blurry it was used his mind blowing. And I -- that this morning I got out the iPad two. And and and look at that well you're right how to labor -- -- what -- -- what -- -- and what its its like. It's like it it goes back to -- when you -- when you with televisions. Like when you when if you have a high definition television at home. And that's in this certain stations want -- that's not a build and high -- -- go back to standard Def like oh my god how to never watch standard Def but. There are ties back -- -- -- were people were loving dvds in in you know and 480. But that's just west of the strange thing running you you're used to watching 20/20 against you know what I wanna do you know what past 4732. -- a -- -- a nineteenth man that was of the -- at payless and I'm I'm dating myself I have black and white T. Ferret model violently back at my friend -- -- today in his in his house -- -- this old school. It's it doesn't work anymore. But it's that the TV that -- in the wooden box yet and into the right is that the record player in the speakers and everything are built and the doors closed. You can open over the TV so -- has like. His new TV. On top of I love that I got out -- -- app. Temporarily but I mean you know what it's such an antique you can't get rid of that you can't. I would I would just assume gut it may be pulling a flat screen in there and a surround sound and other devices in -- with something in this -- that -- I I I try to show you one more thing I want one more new iPad thing. And is actually not new for the iPad three can actually play -- on your iPad two or your phone but I'm addicted to it now and -- there apparently were like four million people playing this game simultaneously last night in the course of one hour. They've they've I think twenty million people downloaded it like four weeks and that's draw something in everything and hold up real fast. It's like words with friends -- dictionary I started my. Thus gains more okay it could block the start playing -- -- I I have a choice of drawing from the person I'm playing with. A cook. Rest would take -- the concept the conflict or at rest or suitcase which those behind I think that's the easiest really. I'm gonna click on that suitcase -- I don't know how this game actually goes on and -- played the first randomly draw something that's what I've done. A critical -- something really. Soaring gas so now now if you saw that I guess it looks like a briefcase than a -- -- they should've done a different. Anyway administered to -- like as long as well as the climate is not a thermometer as we played a game accident or -- He drew a thermometer and it look like a piece of -- male anatomy. Not that yeah well look at Juliet -- to duplicate it tested an element of the monitor and of the heels of the -- -- negotiate an upside down interview based array. Apathy idea that. Maybe a little handle coming out of the -- and now this does look anything like a suitcase. I've completely failed -- -- and all of our belief way to yet with a -- and a trolley cart with like a coffee machine on it are. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And that some quite good so wouldn't play with a pencil -- it for myself what would do that. But if you wanted apparently if you want to play draw something that the best -- -- should do -- get a -- stylus. Or get it for the job the Samsung note which comes the stylus -- -- at a huge. Five point three and I hope it's just -- -- for now but if you could play an accurate Sampson secret plan presumably implement is becoming -- and we can only you know. It's a matter of time. And that's -- it's -- going from this nine point seven inch screen to a screen that is approximately. Eight or nine times larger. Hi what exciting thing do you have that we wanted to look at instantly too big to bring in here. A case -- the LEE eight -- -- the LE 652. It's an eighteen screen by shops -- we've had these in while on the screen now. Qatari pointing at the edges of -- I'm going from there -- of sloganeering guy an area that its its kind essentially this is an 80 inch am I tried lying. Aren't what would -- be diagonally across that thing. And done saw it I couldn't exceeds if you six foot -- and that's and lay across that's a -- would be equally surprised. Site that is what that is -- idea screen it's. Basically what they're pitching it to me is to people what -- we hating that was of the knicks game playing on our way. What we did is we have a hard core will have a -- -- George Solomon the office and she's really sweet south allies and I'm sorry about your your lawyers. She she really wanted to see the game which is a fast and -- -- -- -- TV. So time myself move the TV in the general population. And we played the Georgetown game on that -- and television. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- In the office for a couple links. Not great if you're mid may be off really now why is that essentially it's Watson LCD LCDs are really -- the large sizes -- byte correctly across the screen and nom because you need a lot of plants and lamps cost money. As so what it is it's a budget -- television but -- -- that about. Doubts. 13 years ago for years ago shop. Nine not -- Sony put out in a change which was. The same amount demonstrated -- The same amount in dollars as well sunscreens so those 80000 -- are nice. Already 2000 Australian striped which is lied about. Forty dollar -- -- that he it and so its -- that this is a five and a half thousand dollar eighty so this is the first on this come on coming under. Ten grand now how much is this yet so it's fun and half thousand -- beloved -- 500 if you go -- a seventy inch it to. It's half the price it's about two and half thousand but it also quite reasonable. Yes so it it's not a great screen and below what it is for is third in the -- in -- what you with a couple of buddies in -- and you watching it and some. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Until -- -- something else about this. These so this TV essentially is great if I go to mr. -- -- on Wii is good this thing called viper mode which is essentially a like the loss was -- but situation with a turn of all the post process Netzarim I had -- playing on that's going on my own eyes gray fox got a problem but the solution is it's not 3-D which -- to. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And larger TVs this link on bullets -- thing when she gets beyond a -- there's a 106 inch out. As a more of a I guess commercial model. And that's a 100000 bucks well in the SI and those are also 1080 nobody is going yeah no one's going for four key yet we know there is a four -- coming from LG later this year and a belief that she agrees. Almost on the market that's not right what while we're on the subject got a question that was supposedly -- by Andrew and he was asking if he's he's caught up right now he's thinking about getting another deal. He's looking at the Mitsubishi and detailed patent because you don't like that -- -- because 79. Well if so look to deal pays and funnily enough. North America's the only market that still sells -- -- in the world side on this to a market -- cheap. Huge TVs and I think that's what shops going -- to he would be going off to that market obviously it's it's more than a deal paint. But you'll actually get better image quality -- real identity. Because he had lighting conditions often would GOP's terrible did not because he brought in front of it it's not -- with this television but -- So I can -- GOP disappeared from -- Among other living in -- because of the size of the -- you know the you can get larger than that would be a deal -- all -- -- -- -- -- -- get a project in every corner though those days are done on the law -- projectors they're going to be around long after GOP's -- -- over the whole energy could you can just take you -- make as large U one U -- And -- people who build whole projector rooms and stuff. So that's going to be the money optional edit the budget option if you -- really big screen is to get. A decent 1080. 2000 though they're not going to be it to the -- -- -- -- five and half thousand only LCD and in as far as black levels. He's still gonna suffer from black levels particularly right -- by its yeah I mean if you won't be -- to select -- -- need to -- A dark light tight room for projected a really were absolutely. But -- significantly has a lot of fun I go to like these Shiite a lot of clubs in New York where for some reason -- was and to sort of one for -- DJ which is -- stupid. And -- but -- them in the video deejay was done they put on like this is -- -- -- all the they put out like a PlayStation like one hair or maybe his PlayStation two and and people would like be playing games on these giant walls and like clubs. I I worked with the also are cafe. And then he -- and -- certainly Catholic club none of it was well I work in the navy department and they had a 27 foot or don't. We've -- a 27 what Barco screens and actually hooked up tech and from the for his PlayStation in there. In it was great -- martial law larger than life. We mostly played on the sixth of Oracle's I won so many free meals from the kitchen. Plane -- back and -- excellent excellent there through -- strategy that with this new beat they they spent a. Speaking of of smaller screens getting bigger when -- guys to things and I that are I I think -- PC three summing it to transit got to right now. One more and that is trend time -- wanna hear about the mysterious thing you've got to respect Doug Elliott wanna. We've we've we've talked many times about the ultra book those super slim super thin thirteen is -- -- like MacBook Air. -- starting to expand. The ultra book repertoire if you will and now we're -- fourteen and fifteen inch models that all have the the -- -- tag which is that Intel ia created the name the -- -- have to abide by their rules in order to call yourself an ultra book. But we're restoring C fourteen to fifteen inch models -- to -- fourteen that we've we talked about before. From -- series and I and they lean back dramatically behind me -- this of course is that each piece Specter with a glass of loaded Linux I don't want this thing and as a part. It's part. IPad iPod. IPad and partly laptop -- is it worth it EA really -- -- when it's closed kind of have like a tablet is sort of look to it. I like outlining a keyboard layout everything I like -- -- it's like these -- -- to glance over the like said and I liked them actually like it because you wrists -- hands -- -- -- and opinions and applies it went right off its glass. Will glass plastic -- -- -- right off the eternal. Nobody getting an iPhone I have a laptop dude they're the only times our first week on the project to be in the lab work -- -- for anybody confessing I've seen an avenue. It it in this office it never fails the minute you put food in front -- -- someone needs something from you where you have to. Get on line looks have them I walked in your office have seen an avenue I know what's happened to me I've -- -- avenue Julie. I don't know of its cabinet -- by CNET app analog IV. But what -- that have to do with the fact that this Saturday because the fact that you're eating something and you automatically Butte barely get a second. Finished chewing. And you got your laptop while you're looking something -- And this is that there are part of our larger -- -- -- its fried chicken proof. As -- larger voice Hitler would that effect is that this is a fourteen inch ultra -- but feel what it's kinda big and heavy -- not like you and you not think it MacBook Air when you pick that thing out the glassware debt less heavy glass governing inevitable you know. That's that's the thing people want you know they want them -- that feel solid they want something that looks like it did it cost. Or if you look like an orbiter Boston was -- a secondary display on under that glance and organize and -- ninth -- -- put that track pad on this that was on the was that the unity is -- -- idol like Alice hill of we have it would be a little bias would it to the right -- -- towards right -- people but I'm only left handed Cameron and a ticket. But my -- -- -- and as normal occurrences of these iTunes. But yet so that he doesn't -- any -- yet -- that thing I would take it. You get it out this morning and that it's sort of from here it looks like business with in his what you would mean to hold your hand like this -- when you drop it in a book bag it's not that bad. And the adaptor for that that the Google and exaggeration yes the laptop was little -- But the adapter for is very sleek and sexy it's not like little big. Xbox 36 the you know power supply adapters that convert -- -- solar -- I'd like to tell -- positive that so this is the first time I've ever heard someone use the term book bag since like 1979. Look cool -- -- -- and if you go to at least you know the books are written now and now it's announced that but when you're in school you have your -- taking it school books and it's so in school -- called book bag when you're like in the fourth grade. We use to have like a little -- -- -- string on it and you you know and this is via. This is the KFC HP did so and I so -- the guys I had a terrific speakers give us all over it now I've got something even crazy if you area. If anything -- -- dramatic the American dramatically this is a fifteen inch. Ultra book allegedly with the Mac account is that if this one at least is that -- the Acer M three ultra you know it doesn't look like you know triple A does it looks like that in fifteen and that's what a Mac it does look like a pro yet so I just a little thinner than -- interesting that -- Intel can come out. For years -- inside big -- -- -- to prevent the Mac without it expects that if they go back -- time machine. Professionally -- and don't be used to. I think the biggest the biggest thing with with with -- -- to be announced perfectly dive into the I don't I don't -- -- throw -- what it is I have a problem with these designs -- everything I just think that if you're gonna make something in -- you're aware of who -- -- -- after. Arguments on the nets that resembles what they like the the Mac Pro -- the area. You got automatically and the prices. You can't or can't go and more you can make something that looks like it and then charge more what's whether they ultra books and -- his -- 99999. When interchange -- like twelve an -- that's the biggest problem a lot of these of the fact that they didn't become it was a really nice -- but then. Because I nicer written on right now I think -- this one minute ad budget brands as well well. A throughout the day they go both -- this one actually has a really high end bit timid and it really get over -- to them -- and -- is. It's the first that it's one of the first laptops are the first ultra book with discrete graphics it's got this new Nvidia I think 640 GeForce 640. MG PU and it so that's cool we have to an ultra book that -- graphics yet. On the other hand the display. Is only thirteen 66 by 768 and it looks very toy like -- not gonna get a Breton as time right like -- -- like you got this great -- have these great graphics on your particular place gains of thirteen 66 by 768 that doesn't make any on a big. Fifteen point six inch screen that's -- doesn't make any sense to me. You gotta go at least sixteen by nine in order to make it -- worthwhile that's that's my point. While this and another point for the bigger screen the biggest remember an eleven inch laptop is usually thirteen 66 -- 760 when you have a fifteen inch but the same resolution that to succeed. Another another point for these these few laptop is the fact functionality of these homeless Wi-Fi spots going to be a good admin deleted shaking hands at least you know. You can -- the white. Everything right off your laptop -- a that's -- now. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Those are just offensive were running out of time I -- and hear about this mysterious device you have strategy that you two seem very excited about I have no I would -- -- is a type type autos pulling his leg. I've been following the -- wanted to pick it up I finally got Obama button pick them because it really hard to find there actually go off like 200 and change any day. And it is. -- the the Nike plus. ID -- -- ID plus fitness to be -- left. -- dual -- as a Maine so what it does is it measures. It did it in -- -- steps in your movements in fuel you can set goals for yourself and have it on the band or sync with your IOS device. And you can set a goal of 2003 and 32003000. So forth winner and if you beaten them Michael amendment gives you calories. Job that's -- calories you consume it today steps -- know. Since I've gotten it -- -- -- put it on 250 women are calories Arthur about Europe but of one of the fuel. Select my Phyllis of the 2000 -- at 614 right now what -- -- measure how long when I think that's that's that's -- little gimmick of fuel what is it. If it is it's like it takes -- -- -- -- steps and movements and calories burned and it transfers it to -- fuel. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And -- what about -- And -- thanks. Did not take into thousands deficits do you just calling you should've seen the whales booking for the -- -- trying to get back of the podcasts at. I'd say it's not gonna -- these not a denial of this island and and and and and rock Rogers actually records and reviewing it and -- I'm building out its slides off in -- -- -- Via USB they recommend that you do not plug it directly about computer -- the legal matters in the lithium ion batteries are right here. You wanna break the connection so they give you a little -- and we -- -- not like this. You have a live -- uploaded data from here. Or you configure via Bluetooth to your iPhone. After you download of course the Nike plus -- -- app. It retails little pricey I -- -- -- the ideal price for would be. A hundred bucks it's 149. That physically extraordinary -- is water resistant not waterproof I was told he could shower with that but I would recommend doing with it but it's there Kevin -- plays basketball and I am I intend on playing -- tomorrow -- -- you know. What my fuel points -- -- -- broken and only play some ball. -- of mild or strong breeze to put this on but if that's critical. -- of other -- just comes in black and -- they do have different size and was really nice to give his little tool. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Yes I'm proud Alitalia Ina I'm like that it. And -- fuel concept but now that's -- people -- -- in the US and the calories that I burned by -- sort of reminds you remember the swatch Internet time that they added at a -- late nineties where everything was it in 500 I think applause. And Yi -- albeit for 72 Internet time in time -- what I -- fuels probably -- The only thing I'm curious about is also tomorrow and I'm gonna find out because it it it may move with our emotions I can imagine tracking meeting -- -- -- -- so right. Is it in army steps -- -- giving me for doing this right now -- speedometer insulate this much is Joey does -- burn more calories but that's a good. It's like a -- that's that's on your doubt you know it's not really on your foot but it it it -- It now and if you're cloning self abuse or of course you'll use a -- but I'm like oh my god. 50000. If your boy and a microphone to sell out our guide channel and this is is -- a lot of fun I feel like we've done more. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Never ever ever ever ever ever ever and I -- -- point guard on the prototype point guard -- are all right gentlemen I'm gonna. I'm gonna faded out right now and even going to attempt to view the apostle which is the place to music -- while we do it. I've I can just figure out -- and small there -- -- line with the native. Make this work is clear and Erica. Oh yeah I can think of them I -- to -- it -- -- that they -- right now that we're -- -- Three -- here that keep me having the wrong one. There -- is that ninety and they still and fixes aboard to tape that he still states via term. Welcome to me is revenue and its revenue on the table which is native and. Think. We're. Gonna suggest -- that gorilla with you guys next. -- -- -- -- And and the. --

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