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February 1, 2008 7:29 AM PST

Microsoft: Threat or savior for Flickr?

Posted by Gordon Haff
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There are probably too many electrons already being spilt today on Microsoft's proposed acquisition of Yahoo. Rather than delving into the $45 billion aspects of the deal, I'm going to specifically discuss Flickr, Yahoo's popular photo sharing service.

Flickr hasn't been a big part of the general online buzzing about this proposed deal. In part, this is doubtless because it's a small part of Yahoo's financials. It's probably also because most people have at best a vague awareness that Flickr is even a part of Yahoo. Yahoo bought Flickr and has largely left it alone.

However, as Josh Gilbertson notes over on Wired, many Flickr users are "freaking out"--as indeed they also did when Yahoo acquired the company originally.

Josh goes on to write:

One the reasons for concern is that Microsoft's Web properties, while they have their share of adherents, are not exactly leading the pack in terms of UI design, functionality and ease of use, which form the cornerstones of Flickr's popularity.

Another interesting aspect of Microsoft's proposed deal is that Microsoft does not typically go after consumer services like Flickr, which creates a lot of uncertainty for Flickr's future should Yahoo shareholders agree to the acquisition offer.

If Microsoft does buy Yahoo, I suspect that the situation for Flickr will be different from their original acquisition by Yahoo. Under Yahoo, Flickr was largely left to go its own way. As photographer Dan Heller noted in a lengthy post about Flickr and Yahoo just a couple of days ago:

In any event, the conversation went pretty simply: Flickr is really regarded as a completely autonomous tech group with no orders or objectives to do anything other than be a fun place for people to come and socialize about their photos. They have no financial responsibilities back to the mother ship, and Stewart is free to do whatever he wants, with no long-term objectives. When I asked whether there (were) any plans to ever get into licensing or other forms of monetizing its content, he said that Stewart has thought about it, but they are enjoying what they're doing too much and such a move has dubious financial returns in a market already dominated by other very successful companies.

So what I think the various Flickerites are so upset about is that Microsoft might not leave them alone as Yahoo has done.

I think they're right. The question is whether that's such a bad thing.

Contra Josh Gilbertson above, I'm not inclined to give Flickr all that much credit for "UI design, functionality, and ease of use." For example, as CNET News.com's Stephen Shankland notes:

For a Web 2.0 powerhouse, Flickr feels awfully Web 1.0. At least that was my conclusion after spending a few hours in the chat rooms of Photophlow, a start-up that grafts a highly interactive experience on top of Yahoo's photo-sharing Web site.

Flickr has been equally plodding at integrating any number of commonplace features to selectively control access to high-resolution versions of photographs or to institute security watermarks in any form. The shortcomings (and strengths) of Flickr are matters for another post I've been meaning to write. But, suffice it to say, one shouldn't confuse the fact that Flickr is popular in large part because it built up a big community for largely historical reasons with the fact that Flickr is a platform that's objectively great.

(Much the same could be said in spades for del.icio.us--Yahoo's social bookmarking service.)

None of this is to say that Microsoft won't mess things up if they acquire Yahoo and Flickr. But Flickr needs work and Yahoo hasn't helped much either.

Gordon Haff is a Principal IT Advisor with Illuminata, Inc. and has over 20 years of IT industry experience. He blogs about what's happening with enterprise servers and datacenters, "Yotta-scale" computing, and related software and device trends as part of the CNET Blog Network. Disclosure.
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Add a Comment (Log in or register) 4 comments
by lmasanti February 1, 2008 9:17 AM PST
We can consider HotMail experience in evaluating the future of "YahSoft" (idea of an Ars Technica's commenter).
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by gerrrg February 1, 2008 9:35 AM PST
I think I prefer "Microhoo!"
by SteveCherry February 1, 2008 10:44 AM PST
If they do Flickr the same courtesy that Yahoo did for MusicMatch Jukebox, well, we can kiss that love affair buh-bye. The 'lobotomization' of MusicMatch was heartbreaking but not unpredictable given the history of big fish wanting so desperately to stamp their mark upon cool products that were made by the little fish.

Steve Cherry
www.DailyFrame.com
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by shohom67 February 1, 2008 12:09 PM PST
C/Net guy: I have a group on Flickr that I hold dear to my heart. I'm a member of a dozen more groups on Flickr -- all dear to my heart as well. The beauty of Flickr is the simplicity of it's basic user-interface. Don't like that? Thanks to Flickr's ever growing multitude of API's you can add watermarks, make a photo-id for your dog, not to mention the awesome PicLens app which allows you to view a page full of photos in a beautifully rendered full screen slide show. The choices are mine, how simple or complex my Flickr experience is.

Microsoft: You're welcome to Yahoo -- just leave our Flickr alone. Don't 'fix it', don't 'improve it', don't even look at it cross-eyed! If you must do something, make it an option - not the rule -- or we're going to lose a lot of good Flickr friends who aren't intimidated by the current Flickr, but will surely be by whatever you do to it. Just leave our Flickr alone!

Yahoo: Sellout now and retire! We're all sick of your gorilla tactics! If I want to download Yahoo Instant Messenger to IM with my cousin -- don't: a) forcible change my default search engine to Yahoo search -- which could be only be undone by uninstalling all other Yahoo apps! b) don't forcible download your Yahoo Browser Bar -- which won't turn off unless uninstalled! c) make me have an email account in order to have an Instant Messenger user name! I hate your gorilla tactics -- so I use Meebo...
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This blog takes a deep (and often skeptical) look at trends big and small in the world of enterprise servers, datacenters, and "Yotta-scale" computing. This means also taking into account the myriad of software, networks, and devices that are driving change in (or being driven by) these back-end systems.

Gordon Haff is a Principal IT Advisor for Illuminata, Inc. of Nashua, NH. Before becoming an IT industry analyst, Gordon held a variety of product marketing positions at Data General spanning more than a decade. He's programmed for DOS, Windows, and Linux; builds his own PCs; and holds engineering degrees from MIT and Dartmouth, with an MBA from Cornell. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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