Apple Byte Extra Crunchy
Will a rear Touch ID sensor stop you from upgrading to the iPhone 8? (AB Extra Crunchy, Ep. 81)Apple hires Google Satellite execs to work on new hardware pointing to satellite internet and more leaked schematics point to a rear Touch iD iPhone.
[MUSIC] Coming to you live from the top floor of the CBS Interactive in San Francisco. We have Brian Tong from an undisclosed location somewhere in Los Angeles, California. Mr. Brian Tong. It's a secret y'all, it's a secret. What's up everybody welcome to the apple byte extra crunchy. This is episode 81. This show is all about you all again. It's everything Apple that happens in the week. It's a complementary piece to our video podcast. And so when news stories drop a couple days later We can talk about it here we can also really expand on the stories that you heard about before so that's what this is all about again this is your show ladies and gentleman boys and girls all you have to do is call into +1-800-616-2638 tell us your name where you're from and get right to we have we have another group of phone calls this week so I'll get it we love it we love it so much Let's jump into it, this is a new story that just dropped actually today, and this comes to us from Bloomberg. And basically the report is that Apple is hiring or has hired top Google satellite executives for our new hardware team You might be going, well okay, what are they going to be doing with this? The iPhone maker according to Bloomberg has recruited a pair of top Google satellite execs. specifically to head of satellite engineering that left Google's division in recent weeks. They won't say exactly what they're doing but, with these recruits Apple's hope is by bring them in. To this expensive field of satellite design and operation that they can help them. And really, when you talk about satellites, if Apple is getting into satellites what does that really mean? There's kind of two directions they can go in to. One of them is for collecting images. So Find Apple Maps, Apple world. Maybe not for them. But the other one is for a communications, and why is this important when it comes to communications? We're going to connect some of the dots here. In a regulatory filing next year, Boeing detailed a plan to bring broadband access to more than 1,000 different satellites In low orbit earth. Now, obviously, Boeing is an aerospace company. They've talked with Apple about this technology and having them be an investor partner in this project according to their sources. Now, at the annual satellite conference in 2017, this happened in Washington, D.C. last month, industry insiders said that Boeing's project was funded By Apple, so clearly Apple, Boeing they want to get in to the satellite Internet business, it's also here [INAUDIBLE] from [INAUDIBLE] Wall Street Journal report that they have forecasted. $30 billion in revenue from satellite Internet by 2025. This is big. This is big news, like- Like outer space big, bro. It's huge, way outer space. But that is awesome, man, because I've been a serious satellite subscriber for years,for probably ten years now, and I don't even know if it's been out that long, but it's amazing you could just drive across the entire country and get a solid radio station signal, the whole time even in the mountains, wherever, sometimes if you're around like tall buildings or whatever, you go through a tunnel you'll lose the signal But, that is pretty awesome. Yeah. If we can have satellite Internet, that's gonna kick the crap out of Facebook the Aquila. The solar powered drone that's gonna fly around and beam Internet down, and Google's working on Air balloon. Project balloon is theirs I believe. Project balloon. This is huge. Just hearing about this for the first time right now and I'm excited about it. Well that's why I have you on the show so I can get your raw reactions. Woohoo. Another thing that might be a competitor but again like you said with satellite, this is FROM THE SKY AND HONESTLY I MEAN I DONT EVEN KNOW EXACTLY IF THIS IS THIS CASE I'M JUST SPEAKING OUT OF MY BRAIN RIGHT NOW, BUT I HAVE TO IMAGINE THAT THIS WOULD APPLY TO WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY IN AIRPLANES, LIKE ACTUAL FLYING VEHICLES. TOTALLY So, this could not only help that, but obviously the goal is here, connect billions of people who don't have Internet access yet, a $30 billion in revenue business potentially, by 2025. This is not something that's maybe going to Well it depends on how much that service costs. I don't know how it's gonna change my life yet. We also know that 5G connectivity is coming, and that's actually to me it'll be interesting to see how satellite competes with 5G or if satellite is able to push through 5G type speeds. For sure. From our phones, right. So If they are equal in speed, it i'll come down to coverage and also data speed because you know that cellphone coverage is different than data coverage but again this is kind of the next frontier for connectivity, but Apple has hired Google executives, presumably from our satellite division to help them with this so that's kind of the story. That we're leading off with. And like you said [UNKNOWN] game changer. It's a big deal I mean that'd be rad. I would love to just be able to go anywhere and not have to worry about an internet connection and just have it. There's still plenty of places like in my apartment there's still plenty of places that I can't even get internet. I need satellite internet right now. Right now. When you go through like the BART tunnel from Oakland to San Francisco I lose a signal. When I go across the Bay Bridge you lose a signal. There are like dead spots just around Oakland and Alameda, it is annoying but if you have satellite radio or whatever you never lose a signal, it is high resolution music. I think that is very cool. All right. You know what's also very cool? How about more stories about the iPhone 8? Yee! iPhone 8. [LAUGH] We haven't heard enough of these. Last week we talked about how there is rendering or an image of what appeared to be the rare touch RED sensor. And a vertical camera on the back side. This is based on schematics. Another image came out, completely different from Sonny Dixon. He's really kind of a known iPhone leaker, and he's been pretty much spot on, reputable, getting different parts, cases and components of iPhones Months before they launch. So he posted an image of what is purportedly believed kind of almost a second potential confirmation of a design of the iPhone 8's rear. This is, again, what the rear touch ID on the back Before the iPhone logo. We have, we've had plenty of calls of you all and Tweets and YouTube comments about what you all think about S so we'll get to that in, later in the show, but also the measurements of Sonny Dixon's image aligned with the measurements the height and width of the phone measure exactly to the micrometer A match to what the other image, so sure maybe this are the same, Im not gonna jump conclusions say this is going to be it, but I will say, if Apple can get that touch ID sensor embedded in to the screen, which we heard is very difficult and may not happen, and again Samsung. HAd tried for the past year to do that, they couldn't do that, they put their touch finger print sensor on the back, that's gonna be what it looks like [LAUGH] It's gonna be like a folded sheet of paper, no 'm just kidding, [LAUGH] But this is, it's always very funny when we see these images these screenshots whatever, it's almost like a folded piece of paper, you literally take a picture of a crappy piece of paper But that's where we're at these days. There's gonna be a bunch of holes in the back, that's fine, yeah. You're good with that? Sure, yeah. We have a lot of calls with people asking why can't they just make the Apple logo the button, we've got three or four calls about that. That's why I'm saving that for the calls, Steven. Spoiler alert. You want to know spoiler alert? Can I tell you something right now? Please. I saw ''Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2'' I am not going to spoil it, yet, but it is amazing. I think I know one of the cameos, I think there is a big news story, I didn't read it, this news story. There is a headline out there that it is one of the cameos but There's a lot of cameos for comic book fans, and the thing is, you have to really know your stuff, to connect the dots, which most people don't. So again, I'm not gonna spoil anything, but once the movie reviews come out, and once people start seeing it, then I'll talk about this pretty cool scoop that I got, that has been reported now. But I don't wanna talk about it, because it's still like, three weeks, before the movie comes out. Like that's so It's wrong, right? It's wrong to spoil a movie, just go see it. But did I like it? Absolutely. Amazing visuals, humor and heart, and that's all I'll say. I saw the trailer in the theater Before the Power Rangers movie, I took my kid to see the Power Rangers movie. Big mistake, don't do that. [LAUGH] But just watching the trailer was fun. Baby Groot, and it made me laugh a couple times. Man. It's going to be cool That's not the only time you'll laugh. So let's get back into it, we will redirect our passion. Let's just talk about the movie, no, no, no. So we talked about all these renderings with the iPhone. Bloomberg went on to file their own report that has confirmed pretty much it's like we've heard a lot of things. Bloomberg and their sources Mark Germon who came from [INAUDIBLE] Everybody on the floor! Sorry. He's it's okay everybody on the floor. That's what I just heard. The Bloomberg story video just popping up. [LAUGH] Like an auto play, it happens. But it happens. But anyways they kind of confirm a lot of things that we've heard with the iPhone 8 5.8 OLED screen model, with a stainless steel border and the potential chance of a fingerprint sensor on the front. Or on the rear, by now this is almost repeat, you guys and girls can all repeat this with me like in step but again that what we expect to see in iPhone 7s potentially kind of standard models, 4.87 inch and 5 5.5 inch models will be 7S and 7S+ but we'll see, we'll see. Another story here just to kind of confirm and move forward with what we've talked about with the new Imax that are coming this year. According to DigiTimes, the Imax specs that we had talked about last week that came from Pike's Universal, this included really what we're talking about, potentially a pro version type Mac. Well DigiTimes says Confirmed those specs with us. Calling the new IMAC, that will being coming out, at least the new higher end IMAC, a server-grade level IMAC with the Xeon X3 processor. Support for ECC RAM up to 64 gigs 2 terabytes of non volitive memory. A solid state drive memory and then also an AMD GPU option, so when you look at this and we talked about it again. This was really what they were expecting to be their pro machine. Another interesting tidbit that DigiTimes did throw out there is the fact that. The 21.5 inch iMac and the 27 inch iMac, they're saying that those will kinda be the still the standard models. But a, guess we've heard this before, a pro version, a higher end version will come out later in the year. Wow. So Much kind of like the iPhone model where they have two models that are kind of the standard. And then the high end model it looks like they're applying the same type of strategy to the iMac line as well. That's kind of a bummer. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? It's hard to say. Here's the thing. I think it doesn't bother me if they release the products at the same time. So they're saying okay, maybe these new IMAX come out around July, August timeframe. But then when you have a pro model, like the super high, high end model come out in late, they say late end of the year. So maybe, let's say, November, December You kinda make people wait. Why not just release the entire line at the same time and let people customize their orders on the spot, instead of saying, hey, we've got these standard versions. Yeah, and then we have this [UNKNOWN] coming out three months later. That, to me, Just hold off for the entire line and do it all at once, in one single blow instead of kind of even fragmenting how people and when people are gonna buy. You want them all at one time just going hit that right when it comes out, but they're not doing that. So, I just find it interesting that it aligns almost with their strategy with the iPhone that they're now doing this with the iMac. Yeah that's, yeah. And maybe part of that is because they had no real plans. To bring back the Mac Pro until they got a lot of pressure from their actually users that were pissed off about it. Yeah, now they're stepping up. Step it up apple. In two years we'll see a Mac Pro, it's gonna be a while. I think it's gonna be a year and a half or so till we see the next Mac Pro. And then we'll see how much availability it has at that. Also though, good thing, let's just talk about some of the nice things that Apple is doing. Apple has made iMovie, Garage Band, and all the iWork apps, so that would be Keynotes, Pages, and Numbers, they are now free for all Mac and IOS users. Now pretty much starting in 2013 when you bought Yeah any type of Mac or iOS device, those apps came free on it. But other people were kind of like holding out, you actually had to buy them. So now what they're doing is like no one, okay I I really offend people when I say this. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] No one is using our works anyways. I do use Keynote. I do use Keynote all the time, for the record. I get a lot of pages people, who hit me up and get so pissed, that I don't use pages, that I pooh-pooh on pages. Numbers I have never touched in my life. I don't even know what that is. Dude! I've never, I've opened up numbers just purely to be what are they doing, okay, I'm not gonna use that. Is that like Excel numbers? Yeah.>> And pages is like what, like Google Docs kind of thing? Yeah, Google Docs are worse. Yeah I've never used any of those things. Maybe KeyNote, I might be into KeyNote or [INAUDIBLE] All right Jacob I xyz on Parascope just said he's using page's right now. We found one person using pages. We found him. Congratulations. Send us a screenshot of what you're doing please. [LAUGH] Actually don't, I don't wanna know. All right also another cool thing, this is for if you wanna go old school. Did you ever play Star Craft my man? Yeah. Actually I got my kids playing it too recently. My gosh. Okay so then maybe you know this or maybe you don't. Star Craft kind of in celebration for their release this summer of a new four k remastered version of the game. What's cool about it is the graphics are improved but back in the day we used to have the four by three tube screens to play Starcraft now it supports widescreen so you see way more of the field which is awesome. They're actually making the original Starcraft as a free download for both Windows and Mac users. In celebration and into promote this, so if you go to Star Craft's website, if you even don't care and you wanna. I just made like a tiny URL, or whatever we call tiny URL, if you got to tinyurl.com/starcraftdl I just made that custom for you. You can go and download Star Craft for free. And it's still connected to battle net so you can still play online. It even has the Brood Wars expansion on it which was new characters, to all the different races. This is sick! This is so retro I love it. I downloaded it, it totally works so I think you all should go and try it out. Do you remember the race that you used, Steven Beechum, what was your favorite race. Do you want me to remind you of the three races? Please remind me. People are going to kill me if I say one wrong. Zerg The Protoss, is it Protoss? I think they are the robotic ones, and the Terran which are the humans. Terran, yeah. You're the humans? The Zerg! Right, yeah. Zerg rush. Yeah [LAUGH] Zerg rush, with all those Little Zergies. Anyways, check it out. It's free and it's cool. All right, before we get to some more calls, I know some of you think that I knock on Apple all the time. But again, I don't know why I have to disclaimer this. I'm coming from a perspective of an Apple fan from the heyday who has seen how it's changed, and if Apple is looking to talk the talk, they better walk the walk. That's the only perspective we come from, okay? And yes, I can make anything they make so I just got to to talk about it [LAUGH] but let's get to some of the cool ways that [UNKNOWN] they aren't necessarily supporting the pro users as much as we like but I got two cool stories that illustrate how professionals are still using Apple's current devices. Specifically number one, check this out, Conde Nast. If you're not familiar with them, they're a magazine publisher. They publish everything from like Vanity Fair, Vogue magazine, Bon Appetit, Traveller magazine. They just released the first Cover shot on an iPhone plus for a magazine, it's a first Traveler magazine, they took a picture using the iPhone 7 Plus with the portrait mode that book effect And it's just done specifically with the camera, it blurred out the background of like the ocean, it took a picture of the boat, kept it in focus and used that for the cover of the magazine. They also did the same thing with Bon Appetit with this lady who has a Popsicle in her hand. But they are using the iPhone 7+. Magazine covers, that's pretty awesome. Now, are they partner with Apple or something? Do they have some sort of distribution partnership or something? Well, I mean they do have their magazines available as digital versions but I'm not saying they're directly in bed with Apple but I know that in Cond�� Nast, I believe is in travel magazine. They did this a while ago. It might of been a year ago where they challenged their photographers to just use the iPhone. And the photographer said at first they missed kind of almost the security and also the multiple settings on their dslr cameras, but then what they found was with the iPhone they could kind of get a lot more intimate shots cuz it wasn't this intrusive huge camera that they might have to stick in someone's face. But they also really liked the quality of it. You'll see several bloggers or photo, kind of known, renown photographers that have used the iPhone, the stuff looks amazing. Yeah, yeah. So, That's pretty cool. Yeah, I thought that was cool, and then the other one that I love to talk about, the iPad Pro, this is like my boy, my favorite Apple device that I don't even think I've seen anyone in the wild with one. Someone tweeted at me and said, hey, I saw an iPad Pro on the wild for the first time, you're not the only one. And I'm like, yes. yes! [LAUGH] So, this artist, his name is Robb Generate III, he goes by Robzilla, and if you go onto that link, Steven, it will show an actual Animated picture what he's doing, he uses the iPad Pro and Adobe illustrator to draw NBA athletes, KDE Then work with Washington wizards, who like I said in my show will never see the NBA finals this year. They just don't expect the Washington Wizards band. If your watching Wizard band, just stop Just, even if you get to the finals you're gonna get destroyed by the warriors, okay, let's just ne real about that. You can respond back, in the phone lines 1-800-616-2638 if you would like to retaliate against me Wizards fans. No profanity cuz I didn't swear at you Okay. [LAUGH] But anyways, he does these awesome, amazing illustrations using Adobe illustrator draw and the Apple pencil, and the Ipad Pro, and he's been hired by the Warrior's and the Wizard's. And this stuff's amazing's. Yeah, that looks pretty awesome, man. So is he a Warrior's fan or is he, does he claim a team? No I don't know if he's necessarily a Warrior's fan. I don't know if he actually claims a fan. I don't know. Jim4425 or Jim24Smith, I can't even really see it from here, he says whatever, wizards rule. Let's go wiz, let's take a wiz. Yeah. Donald Trump isn't even a Wizards fan. He totally did not show up to their opening game or something. You crack me up. I think every show you've made a Donald Trump reference. [LAUGH] The past three months. No, no not at all. I'm for reals. Someone's gotta collect it, I'm like really? [LAUGH] I'm trying to be positive here bro. I'm trying to stay above, I'm trying to stay above the [UNKNOWN]. All right, should we get to some of the phone calls? Let's do it. We got a lot of good calls today. Thanks for calling everybody. Let me get this set up here real quick. Here we go, first call. Hello, do you think that Apple will make the Apple Pencil available for the iPhone? [BLANK_AUDIO] No. No? [LAUGH] I mean honestly. Do I even have it near me? No. If you had an Apple Pencil. Like the actually Apple pencil exists right now with your phone. Do you know how big that thing is? That's like, that's embarrassing. Yeah. It's huge. Look. Even at this, let me put this way. If Apple even did a stylist for a large screen phone my gosh They would get murdered from just all the people that would make jokes about them. But at the same time, if they made an actual kind of hybrid OS, I think there would be a good amount of users that would still buy that phone. What if the iPhone X, iPhone 8, iPhone Future, whatever they end up calling it. Some people just think they'll call it the Apple Phone. We got a lot of those calls. What if It actually did end up supporting some sort of pencil stylus. I don't know. Stevie Jobs would be rolling over in his grave, man. He already is, bro. He already is. [LAUGH] He already is. But they didn't make a stylus or a pen, it's a pencil. So you know, they got around it that way. It's not a stylus. [LAUGH] It's not a stylus. Not a stylus. Okay, next call. This guy is a conspiracy theory, which is kind of [UNKNOWN] Hi this is Bradley from Florida, I just wanted to make a quick comment. So it seems to me that ever since Samsung moved their cell launching it actually, this is my opinion, they take apple's rumours for the next phone And then they rush it out and put it into their new phone that they're launching in March, so that way when the new iPhone launches in September or October, it seems like Apple copied them and that's why Samsung is seen as the new quote, innovator. That's just my opinion, I'd love to hear what you guys think, thanks, bye. [LAUGH] I think that's just silly. I mean I definitely know which side of defense this guy's on. [LAUGH] So, let me just give you, of course everyone copies from each other, but quite honestly, look when you're the top dog. You honestly tend to not innovate as much. That's why during the SJ era I thought they were amazing, cuz they innovated while they were still the top dog. Now what you see, you've seen this from, who are other companies that have done something similar like this? I've gotta think about it, cuz there were others that I thought about. You have people that now have, a great example, Facebook. Okay, so let's take these two companies, you have two companies that pretty much have this, enormous, massive user base. And they see all these other companies for example, Samsung, they're different now, but in the beginning they were the up and comer in the phone race. How about, let's talk about Snapchat to Facebook, right. Snapchat created this kind of new socially platform. But, what did Facebook do? They waited it out for like what a year, year and a half. And Facebook took literally what Snapchat did. It integrated into their platform, Instagram and now Instagram stories. And guess what, guess which up has more daily users than Snapchat. Instagram. Instagram. I was gonna say Facebook. Yeah I mean Facebook owns both, right? But Instagram does sorry so They use their platform that have these large user bases, knowing that, you know what? Fine, let this cool innovators we're going to let them do that. Now when you talk about Apple and Samsung, Samsung had wireless charging. Samsung had OLED screens, Samsung had curved OLED screens. Samsung and to LG, I have to give props to both had phones that used styluses. You have Apple here who has now taken a backseat, they're like guess what, people want larger phones and multiple screen sizes. That seems to be popular Well, guess what Apple did? They did exactly that. Apple is like, OLED screens? Yeah let's go with that. And one other sidenote is that Samsung was able to integrate OLED screen earlier because they were actually manufacturing them. So, they had a competitive advantage because they were actually producing some of these things. But still, Apple ain't Companies aren't copying Apple as much as Apple is copying them at least now. So is Apple letting other companies do all their market research for them basically. Yes. Yeah they're like let's see how this company does with this product and then if it's cool maybe we'll build one ourself. Look we know that Apple wasn't first tool MP3 player. Right the iPod, there was like the Samsung player there was. Dude I had a Samsung player like a little tiny one it was awesome man. Yeah there was a Samsung player from SanDisk. There were all other types of MP3 players that were just. [UNKNOWN] but it was the only thing we had that came with the iPod, they weighted it out. iPhone, the phone market was trying to figure itself out. There were great phones. Apple blew our minds with the iPhone because they saw it with people and they put their own innovative twist on it and, saying innovative twist is an understatement. [LAUGH] Tablets, tablets? Tablets yeah. iPad. I remember seeing, not Steve Jobs but head of Microsoft, why am I blanking on his name right now? Bill Gates. Bill Gates, I remember seeing him a long time ago, way before the iPad. And he was talking about the future of computing is gonna be this tablet thing, it's just gonna be a screen that you hold in your hand. And I just remember thinking that just seems so weird and just I just couldn't picture it at the time. But he was right. Yeah. Here's another thing. When Apple released the first iPhone, it was based off of 2G phone networks. 3G cell phone networks were actually out, completely useable. Yeah. [LAUGH] I would just caution to say that, yes, Apple has been innovative They have helped to change market dynamics, but most of the time, they're actually taking what other people are doing, they're just kind of perfecting it, or finessing it, so that it's really easy to use. And kind of really, it's put together in this amazing package. At least historically. That's what they used to do. They're a little different now. So I want to caution that, there's two errors of Apple that we have to really look at and be aware of. So- Well, you know they're watching Facebook closely now, because Apple's been talking about this AR Augmented Reality stuff for a while. But now Facebook just comes out and announces like, we've got AR Studio, we've got all this stuff. We've got, you know Hundreds of different like what do they call them? Like AR filters now [LAUGH] So I'm theres, I'm sure Apples's just like watching Facebook to see where, what sticks and what doesn't you know. You know it's funny. I saw your your Your post that you put on Twitter, where you're like, hey, is anyone using Apple clips or something? You were talking about the clips thing. That was funny. And you're totally right. I have not seen one of them, and I haven't really seen any of the new Facebook stuff either. I don't know, maybe because it's not released yet or? Here's the funny thing about you talking about Facebook AR exactly to my point. At. Real quick diversion. S eight was out at Facebook's conference, developer's conference where they talk about kind of new directions they wanna go with software and new initiatives, and during this they talked about augmented reality which is a big thing, and one of their specific lines was Facebook is working on fun, creative ways to use augmented reality like Filters or stickers or masks that track your facial motion, you know however your body moves, or how your face moves. Snapchat has been doing that for like a year and a half or two, so it's, and it's literally like, let other people do it, we'll put it on a platform. We'll try and tweak it and perfect it and see what happens. So this happens all the time. Between all companies. [CROSSTALK] Yeah, the whole copycat thing is just not accurate to say that they're copying Apple. Like everyone is copying each other but Apple was actually doing a really good job of taking what people have done but then financing it and making it their own. Yeah, I read a couple of things recently that Snapshot is not profitable and they can't really find a way to make money right now Nope. And so it's possible maybe we see a future where Apple just buys them and uses their technology that they have. We know that they're working on their own thing but who knows, they could just buy snap chat who knows. And okay we're gonna keep on getting through the calls but one more quick thing about snap chat. So remember when there was spectacles everyone was like those are so cool, those are so cool blah, blah, blah right? So I was in L.A. and I was at a mall and there was one of those Snapchat bots dead center in the mall during peak hours, right? Yeah. Not a single person was lined up at it. Yeah I remember just less than a year ago people were just lining up and they were selling out and they were putting one in the middle of the desert or something. [LAUGH] Like here. Here's another Snapchat kiosk. But I guess that wave is done? Yeah, and if you hear me chewing it's cuz I'm having some dried cranberries. [LAUGH] Cool, all right let's keep rolling with our calls. Next call? Hey this is Rudy from Tampa, I really love the show. Last week you guys were talking about how maybe the touch ray sensor may not be able to Get into this iPhone edition, and it's possibly going to be put on the back because of the new display. I was wondering why they may not just go ahead and put the Touch ID sensor integrated into the Apple logo since it's already there and it would look really Awesome, as opposed to having like a small circle below. And, if they don't, I know there's a rumor going around where they may extend the lock button And maybe they're thinking they could also put the [UNKNOWN] D sensor into the lock button as well where your finger already is. Anyways love the show, bye. Wait Beef are you showing the voicemail app while? Yeah sure. I mean what else am I going to put it on. I don't wanna put it on our face. Do the overhead shot. Overhead shot seems kinda dead right now it just seems empty. I know but it's better than looking at a white. [CROSSTALK] I'm playing the iTune you know it's iTunes so we're Apple [UNKNOWN] show Sorry for everyone who listens this on a audio podcast we were just having a [UNKNOWN] about production [UNKNOWN] I'm going to do like the iTunes visualizer or whatever Yeah that's actually pretty cool We'll do that So anyway to the question about yeah look the first thing I did I don't wanna throw it all out there but yeah it would be awesome if they put it in the Apple logo. It's a no brainer almost everyone wants that but I think they probably aren't because of the size of the components to locate there. Plus if you look at the size of the circle, the touch ID. You wouldn't be able to get the full form touch Id in that Apple logo unless you, you would have seams on it. It would be like, it wouldn't be like a clean Apple that just happens to have touch Id. All they have on that back is just really like a metallic logo so to actually put a complete component system there, change the location of the parts and components in the iPhone. Just for that, when their main goal is to get it on the front of the screen. I think Apple is more likely to be courageous and just go one year with it on the back. Instead of completely re gutting it just to put it in the logo, knowing that the year after, they're most likely gonna have it on the front of the screen. It's crazy how many calls we got, actually like four calls of people saying ''They should put it in the logo'' you know and everyone seems to want it in the logo, they are obsessed with the logo. One guy was even like ''You know you can make it light up you know how the Macbook pro's do'' the logo on the back of the Macbook lights up I just don't see that happening. You know, maybe they'll put a touch screen, or a sensor there, but I don't think it's gonna light up. Okay for the record just the way these components work, you can't light up a touch ID sensor bro. [LAUGH] In a perfect world, like people have been wanting a light up Apple logo on the back of their phones since the iPhone came out. Like seriously. Do you know how much battery power the iPhone has compared to other phones? It's kind of not that good in comparison to a lot of the other phones on the market. I don't want a glowing logo because I wanna get more battery life. True yeah. Plus when I sleep when I go to bed my phone's sitting on the night stand right next to me, I don't want that light on. I get it, it looks sweet but that's Apple's influence right? [LAUGH] Looks, design, over function and it has penetrated our brains. I'm thinking exactly like you guys are thinking, but at the same time I'm like no they ain't gonna do that. That'd be stupid. Yeah. But I want it [LAUGH] but they don't give us what we want. Look. They took away the headphone jack. Dude [LAUGH] All right next call. We are going to do this we're going to try the visualizer on the next one. Hey Beach and Tong. It's Jay Mack from Brooklyn. Love the show. Keep doing what you guys do. So, getting right into it. Let's just be frank. We're all going to be getting this next iPhone 10th Edition. My question to you is, what's the game plan to ensure that you get it. As far as, I'm on AT & T with the next generation. There are the people with T-Mobile. How soon should we be calling? Our telephone provider to make sure we're on the list to get it and, you know, as far as price. Cuz after seeing how the AirPods went down with the delay and we're hearing [UNKNOWN] rumor mill that things are looking a little backtracked, do you think it will still go down in September? October? Or am I gonna get this in 2018 February? Well, that's about it. Love the show guys. Keep it going. Keep it real. Peace. Were keeping it real, bro. We're keeping it real real. And I don't want to be Frank. I want to be Brian. I want to be Steve. Or John. Or Jeff. So did Jay Mack, because I was grabbing some cranberries while he was talking. [LAUGH] I'm sorry guys. I really apologize. He was just asking when is this phone actually gonna come out, right? Yeah, he's asking what can we do to make sure that we're on a list to get it right away- Okay. So that we're not on a backorder thing. First thing, unfortunately, Apple kinda messed with people's heads. They're like, get on our iPhone Upgrade program. You can upgrade every year. Guess who doesn't get the phone right when it comes out because they're on the iPhone upgrade program? Like, because the way the program is structured, you will not get that phone the day it comes out. Really? Most people on the iPhone upgrade program are like, I gotta wait till XYZ cuz that's when it'll be available. So, it's like. So they don't prioritize those people? You thought you might be but people can back me up on this. Call me and let us know. I know more than other people that couldn't get the iPhone on launch because when you preorder it, like that midnight night.>> Mm-hm. if it doesn't give you an option to order if you are on the iPhone upgrade program. That seems so backwards to me, it seems like it should be the opposite. Maybe they have changed that now, but I remember the last iPhone release, or when they first started doing that. People, after the iPhone upgrade program came out, and then the next year happened where the iPhone 7 dropped People in the iPhone upgrade program were like well because of the way that timing is I can't get it when it comes out on that day. Do they prioritize the sales of the iPhone for the people who are going to pay the full $800? [UNKNOWN] Yeah. I see. Yes, for losers like me. [LAUGH] Well, when they were gonna start the iPhone program, and the iPhone 6S I think was the last one you could buy outright, before you had to go through the whatever. I was in a hotel room in Detroit at like Nine pm. Just a couple hours before it was going to happen. I ordered the iPhone so I could just pay for it outright. So I could have the two year deal. Have the two year plan, or whatever. It came to me like in a couple of days. I got it right away. I'm pretty surprised that people have to wait if they're on the program. Well here think about this, and I forgot his name but it just slipped up who is watching on Periscope. You are going to prioritize people who are going to hand over cold hard cash versus people that are in an upgrade program. That's just business economics, that just always happens that way. Right?>>Cream get the money, dollar dollar bill you all. Do it. Cash rules everything around me. Bring it, dollar, dollar bill, y'all. [LAUGH] If you don't know what that song is, look it up. I know there's a lot of young people that listen to us, you have to look. And it's C.R.E. A.M. [LAUGH] Wu Tang. Wu Tang. That seems like it's old. Old music at this point right, but it's not. It's amazing music. It's amazing music. Next call. All right, Hey, Bich and Thom, love the show. I think you guys do an awesome job. This is Luke from Cedar Rapids, Iowa. I just had some ideas, well one idea really, about what the name of the new phone could be, the new iPhone. So I noticed just kind of over time that Apple i. You know they have the iPod, iPhone, the iPad, the iMac and so on and so forth. But lately they've kind of been taking a different approach with naming new products. [INAUDIBLE] Apple TV, Apple Music, Apple Watch, so what if maybe they decided to name it the Apple Phone? This is kinda an idea I had. I still think iPhone X is way cooler, sounds a lot cooler, but it's just some of the different names. Thanks for the show. iPhone X started here, I swear to you. Yeah. Definitely. Brian Tseng Made that up. No, in us. Our show. No, no, not. I don't, I'm not [CROSSTALK] Yeah, you did. I remember you came up with that. Own it. Own it, [CROSSTALK] No, I'm saying you and I. [LAUGH] I know, but I don't want it to be like, hey it was my idea. [LAUGH] It's like let's. It's the apple bites idea. It's our idea. I like the color stop, though. The Apple phone? I do like that. I've heard that. It's almost like they will be rebooting it. Like rebooting superman over and over, [UNKNOWN] reboot the apple iPhone I think that's kind of a cool idea actually It does make more sense than it is cleaner so I got to give them props I mean, I have heard that and I'm like for some reason when he just said it again I do like that but iPhone X is sick! iPhone X is sick [LAUGH] would you still call our phones iPhone X even if they're call the apple phone For sure but that's weird because that would take away from that whole plural thing where the iPhone, it's not the iPhone it's just iPhone. So it'll just be Apple phone I guess same. I bought five Apple phone. For those that don't remember this was Apple grammar 101 from Phil Schiller he said you do not. Use in Apple product's name in plural you just say the name. I bought 10 iPhone today. [LAUGH] That's funny. Okay, we have one more call. This visualizer is not working very good because it's going through computer software that goes through the tricaster, so I'll have to fix that, but we'll fix it later. Okay, here's the next call. What happened? Hey, this is Roy from Tampa. I really love the show. Last week, you guys are talking about how maybe the Touch ID sensor may not be able to get into this iPhone edition and it's possibly going to be put on the back because of the [UNKNOWN] display. I was wondering why they may not just go ahead and put the Touch ID sensor built Integrated into the Apple logo, since it's already there and [CROSSTALK] This visualizer is screwing me up [LAUGH] DOn't mess with the visualizer I told you bro. I love it though, it's great, here we go, let's try this one Hey Mitch and Tom, love the show, think you guys do an awesome job. .>> Nope, heard this. Heard this one already. Okay, yeah, then we've played them all man. [LAUGH] That's all of them, we're done. Guys and gals, it's a Friday, it's been a long week. It has been. We appreciate you coming and listening and continue to return back for More quality productions that Beecham and I both put on today, I was eating cranberries, you tested out the visualizer. It's Friday Friday gotta get down on Friday. [LAUGH] All right thanks so much everybody for hanging with us again you guys and gals can call us at 1-800-616. 2638, let us know how you feel Apple Byte Nation. We're gonna take the weekend, enjoy yours, be safe. For everybody here at the Apply Byte Extra Crunchy Extra Munchy peace. Peace out. [MUSIC]