WikiLeaks will work with Apple against CIA hacks (Apple Byte Extra Crunchy, Ep. 75)
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Mr Bryan [UNKNOWN] What's up everybody, welcome to the Apple Byte extra crunchy extra munchy episode seventy-five.
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What are we gonna do when we hit a hundred?
We always make up things that we're gonna do but we never do.
We're gonna throw a party, maybe have a giveaway, something like that.
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And I don't know if you guys have been reading the news.
Can you avoid this whole WikiLeaks?
Is anyone safe?
If you haven't heard about the WikiLeaks story, that means you just are, you clearly are completely off the grid and the only thing you listen to is our show.
You can't escape her right?
[LAUGH] Well now it has become full circle, it's our show now, from the time [INAUDIBLE].
So now you can't escape it.
But here is basically what happens.
If you're familiar with WikiLeaks, they're known for releasing a lot of high profile, top secret documents, whether it's from the government, from other entities, You have things like the Hillary Clinton campaign chairman's emails that were leaked out.
You have things as far back as 2007 where there were Baghdad airstrikes.
They actually used a video evidence of this.
But now Wikileaks just a few days ago, made a claim when they released thousands and thousands of documents tying the CIA, Central Intelligence Agency and their allied intelligence groups.
And detailing specifically the different methods that they are using or have been using to either get access to your smartphones, your computers, even your cars and your Smart TVs.
And everyone was like, whoa, what is going on?
What are these vulnerabilities?
Hey, you know, what are we susceptible to?
I'm gonna talk about a couple, just to give you a scope of what they were able to do and how they were detailed.
One of their programs Was basically called wrecking crew.
It explains how they crashed targeted computers and then another tells them how to steal passwords using the auto complete function on Internet Explorer.
They had a method with your Smart TV, this is pretty wild.
With your Smart TV, they're able to basically to use your Smart TV's microphones And listen.
Use them as a smart bug in your home, whether the TV was on or off.
This is documented.
That's crazy, man.
These documented different methods.
And again, this is not just a few methods.
We're talking about hundreds and hundreds of methods.
And yes, we know this stuff has been going on for a while.
But for it to actually be brought to light, the specific ways that they did some of these things.
That's what makes it, we've always suspected, but no one has said this is officially exactly what they do, this is what they call it.
This is a document that includes, what is is 7,818 web pages, 943 attachments.
All part of this first installment of a larger collection of Secret CIA material of how they went on to hack our devices and guide us.
Now, the CIA claims they're never going to confirm that the documents were actually accurate.
There's analyst that have been looking at them, and they have said they believe that these are in fact true and real documents.
But let's just talk about how this affects you and maybe how vulnerable are you really all to this.
Apple directly responded right off the bat of how you might be vulnerable.
But Apple says in a statement to TechCrunch that most of the vulnerabilities in the WikiLeak docs have already been patched.
And so of course this isn't stuff that they might have collected just yesterday and posted.
This is stuff that Takes over time.
It's really like a treasure trove of documents.
But, this is Apple's comments.
There's the official statement to TechCrunch.
They say, Apple is deeply committed to safeguarding our customers' privacy and security.
The technology built in today's iPhone represent the best data security available to consumers and we're constantly working to keep it that way.
They continue to kind of go on.
While our initial analysts indicate that many of the issues leaked today were already patched in the latest iOS, we will continue to work rapidly to address any identified vulnerabilities.
We always urge customers download the latest iOS.
To make sure they have the most recent security updates.
So, that's the statement directly from Tech Crunch.
That was gonna be my question, did Apple patch this after these docs were linked or leaked?
Or did they patch this before, so that just answered my question.
[CROSSTALK] the last.
But did they also see what came out yesterday.
And then go and like fix things?
Well I think it's probably a running situation because just early today.
As of Thursday, Julian Assange Who is the face, the man behind WikiLeaks did announce that WikiLeaks is going to provide Tech Firms.
So we're talking about the Apple's, the Google's and the Samsung's.
They are gonna provide them access with more detailed information from this documents that they have.
That they have not released publicly to allow These companies.
These large corporations.
To fix some of these vulnerabilities that maybe they have not addressed.
And here's the thing, though, right?
You never know how.
How much he's actually helping.
I mean, Julian Assange has many different motives.
We know he's not a squeaky-clean character who's doing this to be a righteous person.
But at the same time, at least, because he said tech companies are reaching out to them and saying, how do we fix this?
How can we fix this?
He's going to give them the access to the actual documents so that they can at least address the issue.
Because see, he tends to obviously be anti-government.
He's trying to show, unearth maybe hidden agendas, quote unquote conspiracies, or information that we don't know about to the public and bring it to the public light.
So in an interesting way, it is in his best interest to help the tech companies because he's so anti-government.
I found that kind of to be an interesting twist.
But again, WikiLeaks will work with tech companies based on these hacks.
But a lot of people are wondering, I mean, think about that smart TV one though.
Even when your TV's off?
I mean, I have an Echo in my house, and I'm not hiding anything.
I'm not saying anything dangerous or anything in my house.
Are you sure about that?
Is that Echo in your bedroom?
But but you know, I mean it's still like, feel, you feel, feels kind of icky knowing that there could be some NSA nerd like listening to me and my family or something, you know, but.
Well, I think the premise that we all have to go under is that everything is hackable.
For anyone to say that nothing is hackable is just not true.
Everything is hackable.
Not only that, on top of that, we by using these listening devices, trust me, I'd be the first person to say I love my Echo.
I think the Google Home is great too.
I use my Echo more because it's just linked up better.
The Google Home still has a ways to go for compatibility.
When we buy these products, now we put a listening device in our home.
I mean come on!
I know, I know.
You are asking for it.
You're basically saying, I'm letting a company potentially hear.
They're probably listening to the Apple Bite right now.
[LAUGH] Well you know there was that case recently, where there was a murder
I figured what state it happened.
There was a murder, and the prosecutors were trying to to subpoena the recording from the Amazon Echo that was in the room when this supposed murder supposedly happened or whatever.
So there was, and Amazon was ready to go to court, like fight me, like no, this is a private, this is private information to this person who bought our device But then the person in question was like yeah take the echo information, I don't care.
So then Amazon backed off okay we're not gonna fight this, we're just gonna let it play out.
He gave permission to release this information.
So we're gonna back off.
We're not gonna let the court set a precedent for what's gonna happen in this sort of case.
So it's just kinda interesting.
I wonder what would have happened if you fought it, I'm sure amazon would have fought it too.
Even if these prosecutors do get this data its not like a voice recording.
It's not like a voice recording.
Your gonna get a bunch of script with Words and stuff, you know what I mean?
It's not gonna be like an audio file or anything.
I just think people shouldn't be naive to the fact that we are connected to tech that can be hacked at any time.
Have you ever heard of a video video game called Watch Dogs.
That's what we're talking about, okay?
But the TV being turned off and it still recording you, that is like, the creepiest.
That's like criminal on the TV manufacturer's part.
You know what I mean?
That is, without a doubt, that is probably one of the wilder things that I could think of, right?
I can't believe that, yeah
Yeah, I can't believe it.
All right, when we talk about devices, we obviously can't go a show, at least right now, without talking about the iPhone 8 or the iPhone X.
You know what?
Actually, I need to pull this up while we're talking.
I did a fun, casual Twitter poll related, actually, you know what?
Maybe I should get to the story first before I bring that up.
Is that a good idea?
Okay, Here's the latest headlines with the iPhone 8.
According to Macotakara, a Japanese based website that has continued to feed a lot of rumors in the Mac world and most of them have been pretty accurate, historically, the iPhone 8 could reportedly be called the iPhone edition.
And ship well after the 4.7-inch and 5.5-inch versions, that is according to Michael Sekara.
The thinking is that the iPhone, this new higher-end premium 5.8-inch model would be similar to how they would name the Apple watch edition.
Therefore, the thinking is that the Apple iPhone could be called the iPhone Edition.
I think that's the worst name, man.
It's the worst name.
Is it really the worst name?
I think so.
I don't know.
It just doesn't have like, there's no excitement to it.
The iPhone Edition.
Like, what does that mean?
Once that article came out, I threw out a poll on my Twitter to the Apple Bite Nation and I asked them basically, reports claim that the next flagship iPhone could be called the iPhone Edition.
What do you think they should call it?
And I gave everyone a few options.
We start off with the iPhone 8, iPhone X, iPhone Edition, and iPhone Future.
A total of 1,500 people responded So I want to know, first of all, between those four [UNKNOWN], 8, X, Edition, and Future, which one do you think won?
I accidentally already saw the results.
I'm very sorry.
[LAUGH] You just ruined the whole bit.
I just loaded your tweet and the results popped up.
But yeah, the winner by 53% Is the iPhone X.
I'm sorry, we started that-
So long ago.
So long ago.
I mean it might have been at least three or four months, and now all of a sudden, publications are using it.
I'm not gonna say we started it, but I'm gonna say-
We started it.
Yeah, just say we started it.
We started it.
So 53% came in with the iPhone X, 30% came in with the iPhone 8. The iPhone addition got 13% of love and 4% was the iPhone future.
I did some funny, some funny comments.
You know how people always like to kind of chime in and write stuff of their own.
One of them let me see if I can find it or not.
If I can't well.
It's just too bad someone just called it like The iPhone just works.
Someone called the iPhone S-H-I-T [LAUGH]
Because haters gonna hate.
Someone called the iPhone deez nuts edition.
I wanna cal it the iPhone Ocho, I don't know that just popped into my head while we were talking.
That would be hot [LAUGH].
iPhone ocho, you know.
That's from a dodge ball right?
I don't know, just popped into my head.
iPhone ocho, that sounds cool to me.
Do you remember that though?
It was like, the ESPN was covering The dodge ball tournament and it was on, because there are so many ESPNs they put it on ESPN the ocho.
[LAUGH] That's hillarious.
It's so good.
All right so iPhone literally is taking the cake I don;t know what you guys all think about that.
Someone called it the Trump phone.
Come on the Trump phone?
Yeah, why does it always gotta be political
All right, more stories around the iPhone 8. Future iPhones could support, it's about time, 4K graphics and much faster gaming.
This is from an actual announcement and release from Imagination Technologies, that their next generation GPU architecture That is currently in the current line of iPhones.
Their next gen architecture is called the PowerVR Furian, F-U-R-I-A-N.
That's Furian yes.
Furian, the architecture will offer up to 70 to 90% improvement in real world gaming performance.
Includes 35% better shader performance.
An 80% better fill rate.
Basically, you're getting a better looking product.
Currently, the GPU architecture that is used as part of the Apple iPhone is their Series7XT.
So the logical thinking would be, okay, they have this new PowerVR Furian architecture.
It'll be in their Series8XT GPU.
That is, again, they have a custom designed version of it for the iPhone.
According to Imagination Technologies though, the series 8XT will be announced in mid 2017 and they don't expect it to be available until the end of 2018 at the earliest.
So, these advancements in graphics that we're talking about, you will not see them in the iPhone 8.
I just wanted to mess with you all.
You basically will not see them at all.
The Furion sounds cool though?
I want the Furion man.
You down with the fury?
Also a report, 3D sensor production ramp up suggests that the iPhone 8 will launch later than September.
So this has been kind of floated around a little bit, where We know that they have kind of the standard 4.7 inch phone and the 5.5 inch phone.
And now we're talking about this premium, OLED 5.8 inch phone.
And so, from that.
They're saying that the actual 3D sensing camera chip will be from ST Microelectronics.
And this is this whole facial scanning with the rumblings that they're going to completely get rid of the touch ID button, no home button.
There's gonna have to be another biometric way to confirm you.
So the rumor is that they will be using some sort of a front Three depth-sensing camera system to unlock your phone, potentially.
And it's expected to be a new feature, but again because of the actual timing of those components and the timing of the iPhone 8, we might them out soon, but the iPhone x, so we're going to call it the iPhone x.
That could be a...
Coming a little later in September or maybe not even ready for the month of September.
I'm a little afraid of the bio unlock like facial recognition unlock.
Don't you think that's better
Wasn't a fingerprint though, if it's fat, like have you seen Samsung's is really fast.
Yeah, it depends on how accurate it is, because I could see people waking up early in the morning and looking all crappy and is your phone gonna recognize you?
[UNKNOWN] has hello also, so if someone, just throwing it out there, hello, Microsoft has that as well, yes they do, they do on their laptops.
But is that the only way to unlock?
No, it's not the only way, you can still always verify it, right, with an actual pass code, believe it or not.
It will still work.
Pass codes are still around?
Pass codes are so 2015.
So 2015, so we'll see what happens over there.
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All right, back to the show, new beta releases.
Apple's released iOS 10.3 beta 5 for the iPhone and iPad.
Bringing kind of a new little bevy of features to the table.
We've actually kind of seen A lot of this stuff already, but it's just kind of the fifth beta.
So if that's kinda your cup of tea and you're into, please feel free to enjoy that.
It includes things like their new Apple file system, this is kind of a modernized system that's optimized for flash storage.
Includes stronger encryption.
Kind of the big feature of the new iOS 10.3 OS that will eventually roll out is [INAUDIBLE] air pods.
Yeah, find my air pods baby.
Find my air pods.
No new emojis yet in this batch, but trust me, when iOS 11 comes out we're gonna get another batch of emojis.
You're all, nice.
That's what I want to see.
So Find My Air Pods.
The thing about Find My Air Pods.
It will show you where you last had your air pods.
And you will be able to play a sound from the air pods only if they're outside of their charging case.
Which is kind of It's helpful, but let's be honest, most of the time when people are have put their air pods away, it's in the charging case.
So that's gonna be one of the other new features in iOS 10.3.
There's just a few little tweaks in there, so I would say that's good on you if you haven't checked it out already you can later.
And then another Watch OS beta release, this will be Watch OS 3.2 Beta 5. The biggest feature here that will be coming soon is theater mode to the Apple Watch, so basically doesn't bother you, it's kind of dimmer.
It's Made for theaters.
Believe it or not, they call it theater mode for a reason.
[LAUGH] You said that Apple's coming out with a new file system.
I feel like they come out with a new file system every year.
Is that right?
No, no they don't.
They come out with a new update every year that Can drive people crazy.
But this is like a completely new modernized file system architecture.
I think the one that they've been using which is a HFS plus has been around honestly, like since floppy disk days.
Pretty old, okay not floppy, no at least hard drive, at least hard disk, like it's been around for a long time.
So, it's tome to modernize them.
They weren't optimized for flash storage, that's everything has now, right?
So these will be more efficient, which can only be a good thing.
All right, Beachum, I'm gonna do a little, this is kind of different than what we've done before but I'm working on this kind of how to.
But I wanted to talk about it Apple [UNKNOWN] On the Apple bite extra crunchy.
But how are you with cutting the cord?
I'm still on the fence, I still have Comcast and its way too expensive, but in my habits of how I watch TV, I have on demand television, its on my phone and everything.
So, I'm kind of on the fence right now.
So one of the things that, this might help you, you'll probably have to watch the video when I put it out.
But I want to tell everybody really the fastest and easiest way as an Apple user to be able to cut the cord just using your Apple TV.
Did that pique your interest at all?
Yeah sure yeah.
If I could just have one device and not have to worry about everything.
I'm gonna take this back.
You won't have just one device.
You're gonna have to need a lot, okay?
So I wanna break this down.
I basically wanna break this down and I have links that you can show people as well, Beach, as we kinda go along with it.
So if you're listening, you might wanna pause and you might wanna get a pen and paper.
Or if you're watching, you can pause.
And get a pen and paper.
But there's really four things that you need to really make this happen, and I'm not just saying by cutting the cord, get Netflix and Hulu.
I'm talking about actually getting a cable, a live TV streaming service as well as over the air antenna TV.
So you have your local stations And you also get cable package stations.
So first thing that you're gonna need.
First thing you need.
A fourth generation Apple TV.
That retails right now I believe they're at 149.
I believe they start at 149 for the 32 gig one.
So let's start off with step one, fourth-generation Apple TV.
Step two, I want you to show this link.
This is a product called the HDHomeRun.
It's from a company called SiliconDust.
If you go to their website, SiliconDust.com, it's this box.
Now they have three different boxes, but what these are, this is basically a breakout box that you connect.
From an antenna.
Like an actual over the air antenna, and then you connect it into your network, just your wireless network.
So the key thing is that, you have a fourth-generation Apple TV on your home network.
And you have this box called the HD home run extend.
What makes it special, it's $179 in price.
So you're gonna have to pay for this but over the long tale of this it's gonna pay for itself.
It's $179 for this box and you connect it to your network.
Why this is cool, it enables you to take in a antenna signal, pump it in there, and then be able to watch it either on your Apple TV, on your iPhone, or even on your computer.
You can actually watch like over the air TV.
So what, your major networks, ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox.
You need this Homerun HD Extend box and you need an antenna.
And antenna's are really cheap.
You can find an antenna that's about thirty nine bucks.
If I wanted to walk around my apartment right now, I would, but I don't want people to figure out where I'm at.
Yeah, antennas are really cheap and the picture that they get, a lot of the time it's better than what you get from Comcast or something, ya know?
Well, Comcast, a lot of these cable networks are compressing three or four channels
possibly, into one pipe, when they should be separate.
you can get over the air AC channels, that are completely free.
All you really need is an antenna.
But the reason why I want to bring this up.
Is because I want people to be able to use it just seamlessly within their Apple TV.
So, an antenna, 39 bucks.
This HD Home Run Extend is $179.
And then you have a fourth generation Apple TV, okay?
Do you got that?
Does that make sense?
Are you following along with me right now?
Fourth piece of this is a product called the channels app.
On the Apple TV, it's called channels you can go check out what it can do on getchannels.com.
If I recall right, I think it's like a $20 or a $25 app, but this is the most amazing app that I have ever used if I want to get over the air HD TV.
On to my Apple TV.
What it does is it not only you get the antenna signal that goes through.
The Channels app is basically the software that makes all this hardware work.
You get a complete TV guide, everything, right, you get show descriptions.
But what I thought was really special about the Channels app is you can, while you're watching a TV show, It's actually using the 32 gigs or depending on which capacity you got, the storage on your Apple TV, to basically create that buffer so I can watch a show, I can pause it during commercials if I need to go to something, or pause the show if I have to go to the bathroom.
I can rewind, I can fast forward.
This is all done direct with your Apple TV and nothing else.
That's pretty awesome, man.
You can time shift with it.
The Channels app, and then the-
So it works kind of like a DVR a little bit.
Yeah, it's not a true, you will be able to in the future, they're working on a beta, you will be able to actually create a true DVR where you can subscribe to shows.
But That's not going to be integrated on the Apple TV yet.
I shouldn't try to confuse people.
Let's just say this, right now, whatever show you're watching at the moment you'll be able to pause it, time shift, and record it.
The app is called Channels App.
But again, it's four pieces to this puzzle.
A 4th gen Apple TV, a product called the HD Homerun Extend, which is 179 You can get any over the air antenna, but the one that I like the most and it's pretty affordable, it's called the Clear Stream Eclipse.
It looks kind of like a circle crescent moon, but it's called the Clear Stream Eclipse and you can actually stick it to your wall somewhere and it gets a beautiful signal.
And then you have the channels app, which is around 20 or 25 bucks.
So let's see- [CROSSTALK]
That's key to the clear stream eclipses key because it's an indoor antenna.
And that is key because it's hard to get a signal with an outdoor antenna if you have it inside.
I'm gonna work in a video to show all these components together, but I think people that are savvy enough and most people that are listening to this podcast I know you are all savvy.
You'll be able to put the pieces together and check it out.
So just go look at those things.
So what happens is, you got your over the air, kinda your local stations, FOX, CBS, NBC, ABC And then what do I pair it with?
You have a variety of different services you could go with but I pair it with a Playstation Vue Service because it has actual DVR recording.
I love the Playstation Vue Service.
And now, if you're someone who likes VH1, Comedy Central, and MTV, those are Viacom channels.
Playstation Vue recently lost that, so Maybe that's not for you, but it covers everything else I need, and then even something like a Sling tv service which is twenty-five bucks, those are all the networks you need.
You can get that as well.
So, there are so many different options that people can do, there's AT&T.
Be direct now as a service.
But I personally like the Playstation Vue service matched with this whole over the air antenna setup.
And the main thing that I can't stress enough is, you can do this all directly with your Apple TV, and you don't have to go anywhere else, right?
People don't like turning on different boxes to do different things.
There's an actual Playstation Vue app on the Apple TV if you're a subscriber.
Like I have so many devices sitting on my television nightstand.
It's like here's my PS4.
Here's my Nintendo Wii U.
Here's my Chromecast.
It's hard to just.
Just navigate all that stuff.
So think about this, right?
People these days, I mean if you're a single individual you might be paying at least over $120 to $150 on your cable bill, right?
So think about this, you can over the course of this you're gonna save money.
I know there's an initial investment, but think about this.
Not even over a year, over years.
You can basically find a service, an internet plan that is maybe, what, like 40, $50 per month?
So then all you need is an internet connection that, and that's gonna be a quality one for around 40, $50 per month, let's say $50.
You buy a Playstation View subscription plan, that's around $45 more on top of that, so you're talking about $90 You know, you're talking about 95, let's just call it 90, 95.
But once you buy the rest of the stuff, you'll never have to pay for any other additional services after that.
That's huge, let's say, fine maybe year one it doesn't.
But year two, year three, year four, you're going to save.
You're gonna save lots of money.
That's great man.
So I'm just letting y'all know if y'all want to know.
A lot of you might already have a fourth gen Apple TV so you've already put that cost in.
So I'm basically telling you it's about $220 to get set up with everything else you need.
There you go.
Listen, all right, should we get some calls?
Yeah, yeah, let's get the calls.
Also for those of you listening if you guys have any other suggestions or just tips about streaming let us know.
We'll take the calls and we wanna educate all of our listeners as well.
Cool, all right.
Here's our first call.
I am calling from Australia from Brisbane.
I just wanted to mention out that the AirPods have a ear detection issue in Australia.
I'm not sure of it's the same in the US or not.
But a lot of people are having issues here.
So I thought I'd bring that up and maybe you wanna mention it on your next show.
I would say the only ear detection that I have is sometimes when the ear pods are in my pocket it thinks it's in my ears and it plays music in my pants.
[LAUGH] Really, that's funny.
Yea, it's like I've said before it's party in my pants.
And it feels good, next call.
This is Caleb calling from Santa Barbara.
I just wanted to say something about the USB-C.
Potentially going to be in the iPhone and iPad.
I think that would be an awesome thing.
To have all the accessories and be able to connect to a Mac.
That'd be awesome.
Love the show, hope to hear from you.
Hey Bryan [INAUDIBLE]
Sorry, I thought I hit stop, there we go.
I totally agree, I mean look, if it's faster to charge USB-C, that's great.
Don't, they're not gonna get rid of Lightning anytime soon.
I'm just, and if they do, then I'm completely wrong They make too much money off of lightning to get rid of it.
It's funny that he's excited cuz he can connect it to his MacBook.
Connect it to my computer
He's the man of the future, he doesn't wait.
He's like, USB 2.0?
He's one of those elitists.
All right, next call
Hey Brian, this is Simian from Illinois.
I had a question regarding the new iPhone 10th Anniversary.
My question to you and your co-partner is what is the biggest feature that you are looking forward to.
I also had to say that I was listening to last week's pod cast today.
And you were like, if you guys are listening at home on the toilet.
Cracked me up, cuz I was actually listening on the toilet.
But I thought that was pretty funny.
Let me know what your favorite feature is.
I love the show.
So I'm gonna give Simian props for being the first person to admit he was doing a number two while listening to the Apple Bite Extra Crunchy.
Like, that's, I don't know how to feel about that.
He's not the only one, he's not the only one.
I just don't know how to feel about that.
He's probably gonna do it again.
He's gonna hear this and be like, my God I'm doing it again!
Maybe we can get into his biorhythm, and every time he has to go to the bathroom he's listening to our show.
He becomes regular.
He schedules it.
[LAUGH] Literally a regular listener.
2:00 every day, every weekday.
Or Thursday, I'm sorry, every Thursday.
We keep it regular.
[UNKNOWN], what feature are you actually looking forward to, honestly?
Do you care?
I would say wireless
Charging because every night I have to get down and plug in my phone.
That's just a pain in the ****.
I would like to just plop it down.
That's a big one.
Put it on a nightstand, just somewhere near you.
Just drop it on there.
Just drop it on the table.
I mean, come on.
We are tech privileged, we are lazy.
We don't even wanna turn on our TVs no more, we wanna to the echo to do it.
Yeah, I wanna tell Alexa what's up.
No, I don't say that magic word because I forgot to turn it off and it's gonna go off if I say it.
It's really gonna go off.
Yeah, I mean before i go to bed too sometimes i look at my phone and I'm tethered and I'm like it doesn't reach my
So I'd like to just have a wireless.
[LAUGH] First world problems, bro.
First world problems, bro.
Hey, we live in The Bay.
That's what I'm saying.
All right, next call.
Sorry, this is the last call.
Yeah, what's yours?
I don't know, honestly.
I mean The thing that sucks is, no matter what, I want the best iPhone that's out there.
But I don't want a 5.8 inch iPhone, dude.
No, yeah, it's too big.
That's too damned big for me.
But I'm probably gonna do it but I'm not gonna do And do it happily like that's, dude I rock a 4.7 that's an extra inch in my pants.
[LAUGH] You need all that room you can get in your pants too man.
Hey what about the curved glass?
Is that something you're excited about?
That's a rumor, but-
This is what we've seen Samsung phones do.
I mean, it's gonna look sick cuz it's gonna just look like a Samsung phone, honestly.
I don't know, I don't know about curved glass.
I haven't really used a phone with curved glass, so I don't know if my eyes are gonna strain or what.
I fill out my pants pretty good because they're so tight.
Like, I don't know if I got room for an extra inch.
[LAUGH] All right.
I know I don't have room for an extra-
[LAUGH] Shut up.
Alexa knows, cuz it's listening, bro.
Get out of my life, Alexa.
I just set her out, okay.
Next call, last call?
Hey Alexa, order some, no I'm just kidding.
Okay, the last call, ready?
Hey, it's Karen from Ohio again.
My question is I'm about to buy the iPhone 7 Plus and I'm not convinced to buy the iPhone 8 based on what people are saying.
So my question is, What can you do to make me convinced that the iPhone 8 is gonna be the best iPhone 8 ever?
Or the best iPhone ever?
Based on everything else, I think that I can get you just as much with an iPhone 7 versus the iPhone 8. Yeah, so whenever you get a chance, please answer my questions.
Have a nice day.
That's very smart, yeah.
She's asking us to convince her to buy the iPhone 8, dude.
You know what, leave that to Tim Cook.
He's gonna come out.
And he's gonna say this is the best iPhone we've made ever.
Best iPhone ever, ever made.
He's gonna say that.
Then you're gonna be like wow, it is.
You're gonna be like, my gosh.
But see, here's the thing.
When Tim Cook says that Fine, when Steve Jobs says that, everyone's already opening up their wallets and pressing refresh.
Reorder right now, right now, like they don't even care.
Quite honestly, look, it comes down to do you really need?
Hey, guess what, some people in this tech privileged world.
The latest, the baddest, most awesomest iPhone.
Quite honestly, if they put the bouquet effect camera in the 4.7 inch iPhone I'd actually be, that would make it hard for me.
That is awesome.
But I'm gonna be real with you all, at the end of the day.
If this is the tenth anniversary iPhone.
And if all this stuff that is being thrown out there does come true, I'm probably going to buy the tenth anniversary iPhone.
You know, the funny thing is, I've been that guy who is, like, I need the latest phone.
I need it, right?
I need to have the best phone out right now.
But that feeling only lasts like.
Maybe six months or so do you know what I mean that is.
That is a pretty long time Dude, that is a pretty long time>
I know it is a long time but still like less than a year and then all of a sudden your phone is not the best phone again.
but I do not know.
It is a very short lived feeling.
Well, here is how I am going to put it for people.
Apple has preordered enough screens for this 5.8 inch old lead screen.
They basically prepurchased 160,000,000 Screens from Samsung to be produced for this new premium iPhone.
You can tell where Apple's brain is thinking, because in past years, basically, their leading phone, whatever it has sold, they sold around 200 million or so in that first quarter.
So The quantities that Apple's ramping off is they're assuming that people are going to buy the bigger phone.
And I think that's what's gonna happen.
Yeah it's definitely a big trend going towards bigger phones for iPads or Apple.
If it looks like a new phone, people are gonna want that one.
I've had, this is so pathetic, right?
We've had the 6S And the seven, that have looked pretty much exactly alike, right?
So there's two years, there's a lot of users that have had their phone for more than two years and they're now waiting for like the tenth anniversary iPhone.
Like, even though yeah, sure it does duplicate a lot of stuff that other phones have had we don't dispute that.
But it's gonna be the It might be.
Probably will be the best selling iPhone of all time.
And the seven was just the best selling iPhone of all time, right?
Yeah, so there's a huge demand.
People could really pass on the seven.
I don't think people are gonna pass on the eight.
We really poo poohed the seven.
We were like the seven ugh it's not that great.
But then it came out we were kinda shocked when we heard all the sales figures in the last couple months.
Because you have a group of people who've already been waiting for two years to get a new phone.
So now you're gonna have people that have waited two years for this new phone.
And people that, it's more comes down to are those one year people gonna jump ship just to get the new phone.
And I think there's a lot more of them for the eight.
That's where you're going to see it sell.
There you go.
I'm sorry if we didn't convince you otherwise, we just ended up talking about the iPhone forever because you can always talk about the iPhone.
Should we just recap the rumors?
Wireless charging, new OLED screen, what else, what else?
Curved glass with the wire, not a wire, with a metal frame.
USB-C for charging
You also have a 3D facial scanning recognition, potentially no Touch ID button at all, and a new way to biometric to unlock your phone and use it for payments.
Obviously, you'll get a faster processor, a better camera, rumored IP68 improved waterproof and dust protection.
I mean, it's It's basically every feature that every phone has now finally all on the iPhone.
That's [LAUGH] the best way to put it.
Yeah, the NSA facial scanning though, it still kinda scares me a little bit.
Yeah, you're gonna buy it, I don't know-
You're gonna buy it.
All right, bro, should we wrap this party up?
Yeah, yeah, do the outro, please.
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