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>> When my mother saw that they took away my brother and sister, she turned to me, and she said [inaudible]. You're a big girl, I have to go with the little children, I can't leave them alone. But remember my child, no matter what will happen to you, don't become bitter and hateful, don't let them [inaudible] you. It was the last time I saw my family. My mother could have been alive, but she didn't want to abandon the children. [inaudible].
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>> He was quite a brutal fellow, who was, who took pleasure in torturing the people in the camp on a very special basis. His forte was to take us out in the morning in the bitter cold, and it gets like thirty, forty below zero at camp, and leave us out for two or three hours until people just dropped. They were having fun about Jews having big noses. He would take a, he would as a German guard to come in there with a pistol, and just aim down the first nose and fire right down the line of the first row. Well of course, it's human instinct to just draw back automatically. But that was part of the fun that Mister Chokolat [assumed spelling] and his guards were having. So they captured him, and I was asked to a very unique way, a system to try to identify this man. And you'd never forget the eyes of a person like that. You can, they can change physically, but they never change in their, that look. And none of us had much of a problem to identify it, and consequently he was convicted, tried, tried and convicted, and is now serving a life sentence at the, in the Netherlands. So I thought that would be worthwhile for some satisfaction, some conclusion of a tragic situation.