Networking, from PAN to WAN

[ Music ] ^M00:00:06 >> Brian: Hey guys, what's up? Welcome to Editor's Office Hours, it's Friday, what is it, is it the 10th today? >> Dong: I don't know. >> Brian: Okay, I'm with my home boy Dong Ngo, am I saying it right? >> Dong: Yes >> Brian: And, Dong is one of the editors in our CNET labs that tests, jeez, almost every device under the sun. >> Dong: Every single one, yes including Brian Tong. >> Brian: I don't want to get into that though. What do you want to talk about or focus on today? >> Dong: We talk about basically, wireless networking. >> Brian: Yes, wireless networking guys. >> Dong: Especially, you can ask any question at all. You can ask -- ya know -- how you feel today, 'cause I'm feeling kind of interesting. >> Brian: You're feeling interesting? >> Dong: Yeah, the first time I'm doing this on live TV; it's kind of very interesting. >> Brian: Are you nervous? >> Dong: I think I feel nervous more about you touching me there. You want to comment on how fabulous we look together, feel free. >> Brian: Okay, so guys, we'll take all your questions and we really appreciate the fact that you have already loaded us up with a ton of great questions. We will take wireless networking questions if you have any other questions from previous shows that you've seen or some of the segments that we've done or worked on; even our opinions on products and just plain wacky stuff, we'll take them. All you've got to do is up -- over here -- point over here -- in the right hand corner -- point over here -- there is a -- yes, thank you. There is a submit question box, if you don't have an account with CNET, you just have to create a user name and password, pop in your question, we will see them, we will answer them, and we will take care of you guys. So, we're just gonna jump into this right away and later on we'll try and get to know a little more about Mr. Dong, but, first question, this is coming from -- >> Dong: Mr. Know, by the way. >> Brian: Mr. Who? >> Dong: Know >> Brian: That's kind of funny, know. >> Dong: That's fine >> Brian: Okay, first question is from Shanti Poor [assumed spelling], the question is, "G works fine in my house with 10 plus wireless systems attached, what does N offer that G doesn't?" >> Dong: Well, apart from the different in letters, obviously, A, number one is have a much longer range, so the N can give you up to 300 feet radius. And, the second thing is, give you much faster speed, up to 300 -- also 300 megabit per second compare to only 54 megabit per second in G. >> Brian: So, ya know, it's about 6 times the speed -- >> Dong: Yeah >> Brian: What is it, about twice the range, 'cause earlier -- >> Dong: It depends, actually, G about 150 years -- >> Brian: About 150 years? >> Dong: the actual speed for the N is around like probably [inaudible] per second. >> Brian: Isn't it also when you're closer to the router you'll actually -- to really get faster speeds within a certain range versus like after -- >> Dong: Yes, the speed and the speed can be great -- ya know -- [inaudible] the further you are from the router the slower you get with speed, and also the stability of the signal too. >> Brian: Now, will Shanti Poor have any issues -- ya know -- with the [inaudible] wireless systems, she should be fine. >> Dong: The issue might be is the compatibility, so the thing is -- ya know -- some of the, not all of them, but most of the Legacy Kit Adapter will not work with the N because they use -- if you [inaudible] the connection, because the Legacy adapter support only the EP encryption method -- >> Brian: The Wep >> Dong: The Wep, yes, and support the PPA, and some of the Legacy will not support that, but not all of them, some of them will not. And -- ya know -- some of them, you can actually go and upgrade the driver or the firmware and they will support that. >> Brian: Okay >> Dong: [inaudible] the issue is they might not be compatible with the Legacy adapter if you encrypt the connection, if you don't encrypt, should open, should be fine, yes. >> Brian: I see a lot of -- >> Dong: You should encrypt though. >> Brian: Well, there's a lot of info in this guy's dome, Dong's dome. >> Dong: Oh yeah. >> Brian: You like that, no you don't. Okay, let's go to the next question. This is -- might be a little bit of an opinion question but we'll fire it away. This one's from Gamer1489, he asks, "Dome, which networking company is best, Netgear, Linxus, Ancore, DLake, Buffalo? >> Dong: It's so funny because like I have this question all the time from my friends too, and I wish some of them would pay me, I would say, yeah, it run the best. But seriously, It's really hard to say which one's the best, seriously, I don't know, and if I know I can't tell you. But the fact that I don't know, and I think all of them a good product and bad product, so that exactly why you're gonna need to go to CNET.com and read the review. >> Brian: Now, do you feel though that of some of those companies that they've mentioned, some of them just make routers that are prettier than others out of that group? >> Dong: Yeah, I have to say yes. Linxus, ya know the new Linxus they look very good. They look very -- if you go to CNET.com and check out the Linxus FWR310 or WRT10, they look very nice, they look very slick, and they have kind of you know, how do you say, hidden antenna, so it's very slick and very compact. But some other one [inaudible] more bulky. >> Brian: Yeah, makes it look kind of silly. >> Dong: That doesn't mean that they're better, just like look better. Linxus, the new Linxus tend to get hot, really hot, so if you put it in the tight corner the heat might become too much for it. >> Brian: Okay, so that's a good point, I did not know that Linxus' run warmer. >> Dong: Hot >> Brian: Hot >> Dong: And hot literally, not like hot like Brian Tong. [inaudible] >> Brian: You first said you were uncomfortable with me putting my hand around your -- now, I'm feeling -- >> Dong: After that I feel kind of, ya know, a little more open and comfortable. >> Brian: Okay, alright, we're gonna keep on answering questions from other people as well. Here we go, we have a question from Mike Versty [assumed spelling] and we're gonna take that right now, and Dome the question is, if you can see it, it says, "I have a combined ADSL modem wireless router 54 megabits, which you get with an internet account, fixed antenna. Some laptops don't work when I'm at the other end of the house is there an easy way to get more range?" >> Dong: Very [inaudible] question. The first thing that I would not recommend having the combo modem and router in one, which, you know, a lot of provider kind of give you. The reason because you got kind of limited by the wireless router that come with the modem. So, the reason you can not have the very good range because you are stuck with -- >> Brian: Kind of handcuffed by what they have. >> Dong: yes, and you are stuck with the [inaudible] router and that's why you do not have a good range. The best way to do it now is you go out and get a Access Point, get a wireless and Access Point, and what it is, is called the Draft and 2 point 0, okay, because [inaudible]. And they are actually very cheap, about like 40 bucks, 50 bucks, and personally I use the Trendnet -- >> Brian: Trynet? >> Dong: Trendnet >> Brian: Trendnet, Trendnet >> Dong: Easy upgrade and it works really well. And I bought that because it so cheap, it's like 40 buck, 39 something and it totally worth it. So go ahead and buy an Access Point. >> Brian: It acts as a repeater basically, right for him -- >> Dong: There's no repeater, it's an Access Point so that, so the router has an Access Point built-in. >> Brian: Oh, okay, okay, okay >> Dong: You've got another Access Point that support the one it's in and plug it in and have two Access Point now. One of them is G -- >> Brian: Got it, got it, got it. >> Dong: and the new one you buy, you can turn off the other one if you want to or you can have two at the same time. >> Brian: So you're saying his set up is he has modem wireless router that the company gave him but then you're plugging in an additional wireless router that -- [inaudible conversation] >> Dong: I do that too but it's a waste of money. You can do -- buy another router but it's kind of a waste of money so you buy choose Access Point and plug it in. That should work well, that's it. >> Brian: Okay, excellent. >> Dong: And next time do not get whatever the provider try to give to you. >> Brian: Okay, here we have another question from Gamer1489. >> Dong: That's his second question you know, he's asking a lot. >> Brian: Well, this is good, these are good questions. >> Dong: He's a gamer. >> Brian: He's a gamer. Okay, how do I get my XP machines on my network to see my one Vista machine? >> Dong: That is interesting. The thing is with the Vista, Vistas had horrible, okay, very horrible [inaudible] but it has a very bad way to manage your networking because you have to click so much, go so far to go in there and change things, so I can not tell you exactly what steps are because I don't have, I'm not on a -- I'm on XP machine right here so you do is, you want to change your network to be private home network not public, number one because if you move to public a lot of stuff will be closed and the second thing you [inaudible] the file sharing and printer sharing and media sharing basically edit all the sharing possible you can see on the list. So, yes I can not tell you exactly what to do because I don't have one here, but go there and change the setting of the network. >> Brian: So, your first suggestion is change it from a public access to private home network. >> Dong: Yeah, so, when you connect the Vista machine to a network, it ask you whether or not the network is a public one, like you go around or the home one. If it a public one it close everything, so you put a home one it open certain thing. You can go further and open all those thing you can open in there and you definitely gonna see it, and also if you have a firewall on the Vista, turn it off or turn, you know, the part that say about file sharing and something, off. >> Brian: Okay, very cool. >> Dong: I just point you in the right direction, kind of show exactly how -- >> Brian: Yeah, because it's -- you can't walk them through it right now. Now, we have another question, we're gonna run a video after this question, so Ricky this question -- what? >> Dong: Which one? >> Brian: Whatever video we want, okay? >> Dong: Try which one where I look the best. >> Brian: Yeah, of course, the one where you look the sexiest for the ladies, right? >> Dong: I could use some, you know, looking fabulous for sure. >> Brian: Look, you're all dressed up with a nice shirt today though. You can't -- >> Dong: Actually, what I wear every day. >> Brian: Every day. Okay, this question is from Ricky Tricky. >> Dong: Wow, nice. >> Brian: Ricky Tricky asks, "If I purchase a wireless N router am I able to hook it up to my T-Mobile at home service?" >> Dong: It should, it definitely should, yes, it depends on if the T-Mobile at home service is something you use for [inaudible] that you might want to get a special router that support the [inaudible] of the service. If the at home service is just like regular like a DSL or cable then it work fine, you can plug in the network for the one port is work fine. And if your T-Mobile is a [inaudible] kind of thing [inaudible] wireless [inaudible] thing, you want to buy the newest router from the [inaudible]. That's the one I have, the [inaudible] port that support that particular [inaudible] thing. >> Brian: Got it. >> Dong: And that, I think, you know, on the market right now, probably the only one that support it from there. >> Brian: So the model is the D Link what was -- >> Dong: D Link [inaudible] 285 and you won't see the review of that one very soon, it's quick, I'm working on it. >> Brian: Okay, excellent, alright, well, I think, actually our video, is it going to be about a router is that correct? Anthony, sir. >> Anthony: I have the PSP and the D Link. >> Brian: Okay, you gonna choose? Okay, we're talking networking right now; we'll jump in a game a little later. We're gonna go to the router video, yeah? >> Dong: Sure >> Brian: Cool, alright, let's do it. ^M00:11:13 [ Music ] ^M00:11:17 >> Hello everyone, this is Dong Ngo for CNET.com and I have with me today the D-Link DIR-825 Extreme N Dual Band Gigabit router. This is the second true dual band wireless N router from D-Link the first one was the DIR-855 that we reviewed a while ago. But the DIR-855, the DIR-825 supports two separate wireless and access points that it can operate simultaneously. One of them Podcast in the mainstream 2 point 4 [inaudible] frequency and the other in the cleaner 5 [inaudible] frequency. This mean the router can support virtually any existing wireless adapters. Design wise the DIR-825 has only two antenna, not three like in the DIR-855 as you can see here. We've got the video antenna the ports on the back of the DIR-825 are more open and easier to access than those of the DIR-855. The second main difference is, the DIR-855 USB port can only be used to house an external hard drive. The new DIR-825 comes with a new technology called [inaudible] that allows for its USB port to work as a network USB port with virtually any USB device. Other than that the new DIR-825 is a very similar product to the DIR-855 with 4 gigabit Ethernet ports, 1 gigabit, 1 port. On the front it has the same array of LSD status lights. The router has a very easy to use web interface and supports a wide range of wireless and networking features, including WiFi protected setup, port forwarding virtual server, network filter, application [inaudible], it also supports all of the public existing wireless and encryption methods, including WEP, WPA Personal, and WPA Enterprise. The D-Link DIR-825 is priced at $190 and is available now. However, if you can wait, check back at CNET.com for our full review of the product to see how it performs before making the purchase. Once again my name's Dong Ngo and this has been the first look at the DIR-825 Extreme N Dual Band Gigabit router from D-Link. ^M00:13:23 [ Music ] ^M00:13:27 >> Brian: Okay, we are back. Now, the funny thing about that video is that -- >> Dong: No, the funniest thing is that you didn't know what I did to Brian Tong during that video. I made him very comfortable. >> Brian: Well, okay, that router, that D-Link DIR -- what's the last -- >> Dong: Yeah, 825, actually the one I mentioned earlier. >> Brian: that is the one that he was mentioning, he's like, oh, you'll see it soon. Well, we pumped it out in about 5 seconds and you saw that. >> Dong: The review is gonna come up next week, the review's not done yet. >> Brian: Okay, excellent, so, you know, we always have these editor's here live; you guys haven't really met them or know much about them so we have some great questions here that are outside the realm of tech, we're gonna take two quick ones, we're gonna jump back into the real stuff, so Dong, are you ready? >> Dong: I'm totally ready. >> Brian: Do you need a life line? >> Dong: Totally ready, no, no, not yet. >> Brian: Okay, here we go. This question is from Alan Iceman, "Dong, what is your favorite Tupac song?" >> Dong: Oh, that would be the Bowling, Still Bowling. >> Brian: Still Bowling? >> Dong: Yeah, the song Still Bowling, I love that song. [sound effect] Actually, if you go to our Podcast you'll see why I like it. >> Brian: Okay, okay, there you go. The next question is, this is coming to both of us but we'll address this to Dong. It's from DigDoug, DigDoug what's up? He's asking, "What are you dressing up for as Halloween?" >> Dong: Oh, okay, me, I will be dressing like Barack Obama or in Sarah Palin's word, somebody who's paling around with terrorists. So, we'll see how it goes. How about you? >> Brian: Me, I don't know yet. I got a little -- >> Dong: You just like this perfect. >> Brian: I got a little costume -- >> Dong: Just put some more like, ya know, jewelry on. >> Brian: More bling, more bling. I got a little costume for Bonnie Cha. She has no idea it's coming to her but she'll enjoy it. You might too, I don't know. >> Dong: I will, I enjoy you tremendously, seriously, yes, you have no idea. >> Brian: Okay, let's go back to the questions. You have no idea. Okay, here we go, this question is -- let's go here, sorry -- Okay, the question, "Can I set up a real server computer on a network at home without buying a server?" >> Dong: Yes, because, you know, the server it doesn't mean they have to buy the actual server. Any machine, any computer can be a server, hardware wise. So, what you need if you want to have like, ya know, two, ya know, like Windows 2003 [inaudible] you need to buy Windows 2003. >> Brian: Buy the OS and the software -- >> Dong: Yes, and [inaudible] machine and that will be a server. But if you want a server, like simple server, you don't need to have the actual server software, you can use, ya know, Windows XP, that can be a server just fine. If you want to have a [inaudible] server, for example, or [inaudible] server, that's it, all you need is Windows XP, but if you want to do like, ya know, [inaudible] or some other more fancy services that you will need the actual Windows server software and you can use on any hardware that run Windows Vista -- XP. >> Brian: And that's the same on the Mac or the [inaudible], but with the Mac, as long as you have the Mac OS-10 server software -- >> Dong: The only benefit of the actual server is that you're gonna run -- you get faster [inaudible] so service is more secure and it can run for a long time without problem, like you have better hardware, so -- >> Brian: Do you mean that it's like the hardware's more optimized -- >> Dong: Yeah, more optimized -- >> Brian: to stay on all the time -- >> Dong: to stay on all the time and have a lot of redundancy. [inaudible] and redundant power supply, many other things, [inaudible] hard drive, etcetera. But you don't really need that, you want it but you don't need it. >> Brian: Okay, excellent. Okay, here's a question from BMSC22, the question is, "How long do you think it will take for N to be the new standard?" >> Dong: That's a question I ask myself a lot of times because the first -- right now is a [inaudible] and they have a [inaudible] they have pre N, okay? >> Brian: Pre N, yeah. >> Dong: They have a [inaudible] and now they have a [inaudible] and 2 point 0. So, seriously I don't know when, but we don't have to wait until then because it work fine, it work fine with a [inaudible] so we don't have [inaudible] has become very fine for a user, so don't worry about it. I say don't worry about it. I don't know and don't worry about it. >> Brian: Even though it's not labeled as standard yet, people are using it every day, ya know, so. >> Dong: I guess, ya know, when Brian Tong change the color of his hair, I would say that. >> Brian: You know, I just want to let you know the world doesn't -- >> Dong: What I'm saying -- >> Brian: working doesn't revolve around me so, -- >> Dong: What I'm saying is that as random as that. >> Brian: Okay >> Dong: I'm not saying it revolves around you. >> Brian: That's funny. Okay, alright, here we go, this question is from Totalownage -- >> Dong: Oh my. >> Brian: Totalownage -- >> Dong: I'm totally [inaudible] >> Brian: The question is, "Does wireless N routers only do a N connection or can they do all A, B?" >> Dong: They can do all. It can actually -- most routers -- you can go in there and choose the mixed mode, so it's -- mixed mode, it serves all of the A, B, G, and N. By the way, G include B, so -- >> Brian: Correct >> Dong: B, G, N is kind of redundant. And A it depends because not all them can handle A but the new routers, you know the ones you call Dual Band it can handle both A and N, and there's [inaudible] Dual Band router [inaudible] ya know, like the Linxus, Linxus WRTC 10N or the one with, we were just watching the video with the D-Link 825, DIR-825, and also the D-Link DIR-855, they are the two Dual Band router and they handle all of the existing adapter. >> Brian: So, the fact that these are Dual Band routers, like you said, once they support A and N then that covers B and G under the N, does that make -- ^M00:19:13 [Inaudible conversation] ^M00:19:18 >> Brian: Okay, okay, okay, okay >> Dong: The Dual Band doesn't mean it support N or B, it means it have two [inaudible] Bands, it have two separate access points, one running 1 Podcast in 5 [inaudible] frequency and the other one in 2 point 4 frequency and all of those support N and Pre N, which mean like, ya know, G or B -- >> Brian: Yes, yes, correct. >> Dong: Two separate frequencies, so the A is always in the 5 [inaudible] frequencies, the new A not the -- it's getting very complicating kind of confusing to talk about the difference between different N or B or A but the Dual Band mean it can support virtually any existing adapter. >> Brian: Okay, okay, see I got edumacated [phonetic]. >> Dong: You got intimidated. >> Brian: Oh yeah, I'm intimidated. >> Dong: And, no, D-Link is not my favorite and I have no favorites. >> Brian: Okay, here's a question from Somebodytoldme, oh yeah, Somebodytoldme is dope. >> Dong: Somebodytillme >> Brian: Okay, I didn't read through this but we're just gonna -- "I just recently purchased a Nintendo Wii but I have issues with connecting it up with the Internet, occasionally it works and was wondering if there was any common wireless issues that can be fixed?" >> Dong: Yes, I am not, ya know, an expert on Nintendo Wii, I don't have one, or played one, actually it's pretty cool but it could be your router, ya know, if your router does not -- is not a very good one it could have some sort of a hic cup, so you might want to investigate in the router maybe try a different router. I would recommend, try a wireless N router and for that I actually recommend though D-Link DGF4500 and make sure that you upgrade the firmware too, it will help a lot. >> Brian: Now, another question that, when I read this, that kind of comes to the surface is that people that have wireless -- what is it -- cordless phones at home, is there -- how much of -- ya know -- there are interference issues -- >> Dong: That's exactly why we have a Dual Band, because, ya know, the first for a long time, for a very long time old router run in [inaudible] frequency and that's because it's shared by many other devices like cordless phone, your Bluetooth, etcetera, many things >> Brian: There's a lot of -- if you have a lot of tech that can all be -- >> Dong: And even that, also, you live at home and your neighborhood, other guy have the router too, so after a few years, now the frequency is saturated with signals. That's why you want to have the 5 [inaudible] frequency, which is cleaner and, ya know, less used. But the problem is your 5 [inaudible] frequency maybe your adapter does not support that. >> Brian: Will not talk to it. >> Dong: And you want to leave out the -- >> Brian: Oh, your mic >> Dong: We have some problem -- >> Brian: Well, we can -- so, like you're saying there's a lot of competing products and devices on the 2 point 4 Band. >> Dong: So, if you move to the 5 [inaudible] yeah, it's gonna be faster and cleaner and better signal, so if you have a Wii you can actually buy some sort of like, ya know, the adapter, the 5 [inaudible] adapter. So, use it with a 5 [inaudible] router. >> Brian: Okay >> Dong: That should help >> Brian: Very cool >> Dong: But, again, check your router. >> Brian: Alright, here's a question, this one is from BMSC22. >> Dong: Okay >> Brian: Question is, "Should we wait for products like the iPod Touch to be N compatible?" >> Dong: We should not wait for anything. If you can do it, do it, ya know, because, ya know, when the N come out then something else can come out, so don't wait for it. If it works for you, if you think you like it, go get it. >> Brian: I wonder if BMSC is asking should she wait for an iPod Touch -- >> Dong: You? >> Brian: No, wait for an iPod Touch that actually supports, ya know, that has built-in N networking, I mean, there's not -- >> Dong: I don't think they're gonna have that though, because the thing is, it, ya know, it kind of -- I should I -- demanding on the energy, on the power, so they want to make sure that the device is have a long battery life, so I don't think they want it to implement that. Especially Apple, think about like, ya know, they never put 3G on the first iPhone. >> Brian: For because of power demands. >> Dong: Yes, so, and now the new iPhone the 3G so bad with battery. >> Brian: Yeah, it's true, it's true. Okay, let's take another question, this one's from Linx6200; it says, "Hi Dong, I have a slow wireless router and need to expand the wireless network to about 400 feet in one direction, what's the best way to do it?" >> Dong: That is difficult, very difficult because I can see how -- the best thing to do is that if you are in a room you can use a power line. So, you plug a power line somewhere close to the router and another one further, maybe 200 feet away, and then have another access point there, so you can extend it there, but right now I don't think there's any product that can extend it to 400 feet. >> Brian: So when you're saying the power line you're talking about those adapters that go into the wall socket? >> Dong: Yes, so it's not wireless anymore -- it use a power line as the transmitter of the signal so you plug in. On the other hand, >> Brian: You have another plug-in into the wall. >> Dong: And then plug another access point into the power line, so now you have two wireless, one is here and another one is all the way over there -- >> Brian: Yeah >> Dong: of the same network. >> Brian: So, in one room you got the plug-in adapter in the wall, the other room 200 feet down, you have another plug-in adapter in the wall and then connected to that is an access point, correct? >> Dong: Yes, yes >> Brian: So, that's what -- >> Dong: Even if you buy the, ya know, there some product called the signal kind of enhance or something, I forgot the name but those things can not make it that far. >> Brian: Really? >> Dong: Even with that it's not be able to [inaudible] 400 feet. [inaudible] the way you are too, I mean, if you are in a very clean room, just a hole, I think it's possible just to get a very strong wireless router that could probably do -- >> Brian: Might be able to hit it? >> Dong: might be able to hit it but I don't think you have like some hole like that, ya know, it's hard to -- >> Brian: How many people have a house that large? >> Dong: and nothing on it, even Brian Tong doesn't have that. >> Brian: Okay, especially me. Dong from Nicotina, "How often do you cut your hair?" >> Dong: Well, interesting, I don't have that much hair so, I guess it's kind of irrelevant, but I tend to shave it, ya know, once a week or something like that. >> Brian: Once a week, you cut your hair more than me. >> Dong: Obviously, I mean, but I'm sure I dye my hair way less often than you. >> Brian: Are you sure, is that your natural hair color Dong? >> Dong: I'm totally sure, yes. >> Brian: Okay, here we go. I have -- we have a question here from Shady. >> Dong: Shady >> Brian: Shady. "Hi Dong, what about the security improvement in N wireless networking, something broader?" >> Dong: Where's the question? >> Brian: Did it show up for you? >> Dong: Nope >> Brian: Alright, here we go. >> Dong: Oh, yes, yes, a lot [inaudible] it's actually the wireless G us WEP in spelling the acronym, I don't know how to say exactly, but the WEP, the WEP actually is not as secure as the encryption [inaudible], which is WPA, so [inaudible] is a lot more secure, but how much more secure I can not say, I can't quantify, it's supposed to be a lot more secure and it's also easier to kind of connect to other devices. The problem with N is that the WPA is that a lot of device a [inaudible] device, like I said earlier, that support WPA will not support WPA, so you want to make sure that if you use WPA you have no Legacy device -- Legacy adapter that do not support [inaudible]. >> Brian: Okay, cool. We have another question, this one's from Iceman, I think this might just be a personal for you and I we each might have different answers but Alan Iceman asks, "What is the best backup software for backing up my entire hard drive?" >> Dong: Again, it's hard to say what the best, okay, because you say the best -- I have the best, I mean, I [inaudible] myself right? The thing is -- >> Brian: You are the best though. >> Dong: Like I say, it's hard to say what is the best. >> Brian: Yeah >> Dong: So, the thing is, personally and also we use the lab, we use the [inaudible], [inaudible] is true image, I think one of the best software to backup the entire hard drive and it does it very beautiful and very fast. You can choose to backup the entire drive, you can choose [inaudible] so eventually you have only the part after the first backup you backup only the part that's changed. So, the second backup, ya know, the subsequent backup is a lot less than the first one. >> Brian: It'll be the main backup and then all the different -- all the changes -- >> Dong: So, and, it's also very nice, you can also melt the backup to be a virtual drive and copy stuff off of it, so, again, [inaudible] is true-image. And, it's not the best it's just one of the things I like. >> Brian: I looked a few questions down and Alan Iceman actually had followed it up with, "Would you recommend the [inaudible] True-Image?" So, you kind of answered his question for that's one of the ones you like. Now, on the Mac platform I use a utility called Carbon Copy Cloner, it's free, it's also really easy essentially, it just copies directly file for file what you have on your hard drive to another hard drive. People also, obviously, they have Apple's built in this time machine service that allows you to back it up I just don't like how, I know you can schedule it but, whenever I'm using it sometimes, at inopportune times, it starts running the backup and it chugs on my machine and I just don't like it to be, ya know, so intrusive like that, I want to back it up when I need to back it up. >> Dong: You're smooth. >> Brian: What do you mean I'm smooth? >> Dong: You're too smooth. >> Brian: About what? >> Dong: Talking like that, so smooth. >> Brian: No, I'm just moving -- >> Dong: I'm giving you a compliment, jeez. >> Brian: Thanks, are you uncomfortable again? >> Dong: I'm very comfortable. >> Brian: Okay, we have, we're gonna take about a couple more questions, it's 11:59, oh my gosh this show's almost over. How are you feelin'? Are you enjoying this? >> Dong: Yeah >> Brian: Are you gonna come back again? >> Dong: I'm gonna come back. >> Brian: Okay, okay. I have, this is a random question from Zileygammon, he's asked me twice, "Brian Tong can I buy your MacBook?" The answer is, no 'cause I want my MacBook. >> Dong: You can, there's a price, okay, how much would he pay? I mean, just give him, ya know, like 200,000 he'll -- >> Brian: I might do it like that. Okay, here's another question actually from Zileygammon, I don't know if you know this or not, I'm not sure because I don't have any experience with it but, "Do wireless N routers support Verizon Fios' TV service?" >> Dong: Yes, it should work with any service at all, really. >> Brian: Okay >> Dong: Period, I think it's just, ya know. it's just router is just a device that extend or share the connection to other computers, so it should work with any kind of connection you have. >> Brian: Now my producer Anthony wrote me in follow up to the question about buying my MacBook, you're not gonna buy the new ones on the 14th? Well, I'm waiting to get the new ones on the 14th, I'm actually -- >> Dong: I think the person that want to buy the -- >> Brian: This is my work; this is my work one though. I'm not gonna -- I can't sell this one, my one at home. >> Dong: You can pretend to lose it. >> Brian: My one at home, I mean, is that what you do in the labs? Oh, I lost the [inaudible]. Is that where they went? We've been looking for [inaudible] iPhones, where they at? Where they at? >> Dong: I lost it on eBay. >> Brian: Alright, you guys, thanks so much for writing in and being a part of this CNET Editor's Office Hours. Dong thanks a bunch for comin' out. >> Dong: Thanks guys. >> Brian: This is your first video -- >> Dong: This is fun, yeah. >> Brian: this is your first video thing ever, right? >> Dong: Yup >> Brian: Well, like a live video. >> Dong: Yes, and it actually is not that painful. >> Brian: Yeah, exactly. >> Dong: For me it's awesome, but for you I know it's painful. >> Brian: Now, also, if you don't know, Dong does a Podcast. Can you talk about it to let people know what it's about? >> Dong: Sure, it's called Inside CNET Labs and you can check it out at InsideCNETLabs.CNET.com and over there we talk about stuff. >> Brian: It's a lot, it's really entertaining, it's him and Eric Franklin [assumed spelling] our two CNET Live guys, they talk about some lab stuff but a lot about just life and fun stuff and, ya know, it's great, it's entertaining so, again, thanks again at Editor's Office Hours. We'll be here again on Monday same time 11:30 PM west coast time; 2:30 PM east coast time and we'll check you guys out then, alright? Bye. >> Dong: See you. ^M00:31:59 [ Music ]