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^M00:00:02 [ Music ] ^M00:00:07 >>And it's time for CNET Office Hours, NYC Edition. That's the show where you ask the questions, we try to answer them. I'm Dan Ackerman, and joining me today is David Carnoy [assumed spelling]. David what are you going to be talking about today? >>Talking a little bit about home audio to home video that comprises something called home theater. So any questions about that we'll, we'll answer, questions about anything you want, but that is the main topic today. So... >>Theater stereos, TVs, projectors, DVD players, blue rays, anything like that? >>Yeah, and, and preferably instead of stereo surround, we're going to talk about more about surround sound, than stereo. >>Okay, so this is an audience participation show. You ask the questions, David's going to answer them. They're a couple different ways you can participate. One there's a chat box if you're watching this live right below your screen, right here. 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At what point do I go from having a TV and a DVD player to qualifying of actually having a real live home theater? >>Well we like to say that it, it starts with a 50 inch TV, a 50 inch screen and goes up from there. 42, so a lot of... >>No 42's out. >>40, you know, yeah it's just a little bit too small. If you want to get that immersive home theater experience you really need to start at 50 and even 50's starting to get a little small, but... >>I've been kicked out of the home theater club. >>Well I mean if you sit really close up to the screen... >>Yeah but a New York City apartment, maybe you can get an exception for the 42 inches. >>Well, I mean, we just, you need to draw the line somewhere and so we, for a long time now it's been really 50. >>Okay a 50 inch screen and what else. >>Ideally true surround sound which is at least five speakers. There's also now a big fish, big push towards virtual surround which is, can be a single surround speaker, or a couple speakers, just not the rear speaker. A lot of people have problems with those rear speakers, don't want to hook them up and sometimes just running those, running the cables is typical for a lot of people. But, ideally, you can, you know, a five channel system or even go up, if you, if you can go up to a seven channel... >>Now is seven like the max now? Is that what it maxes out at? >>You can go, you can go wild. We've seen some really extravagant home theaters, but that's a, most... >>9.1, 12.1. >>You know, fortunately most people, you know, not that many people in need of the five channel surround sound with the, with the rears. The idea with the, you know we can talk a little bit also setting up your speakers if you want. How, you know, how you set up your speakers. >>Well a 50 inch screen and at least 5.1 surround sound, those are the bare minimums to call your set up the home theater. >>I would say so. >>Okay, okay, that's a, that's easily asked and answered. Here's another question that kind of ties into that. What is the best big screen option? Is it a plasma, LCD, a projection? What's a projection TV, is that different than a projector? There's a whole bunch of questions wrapped into one, but I appreciate that. Outline for me the basic choices here. Really, the, in the big screen area, right it started off with you got these big rear projection TVs if you wanted to go really big. Rear projection is on the wane right now because of, plasma prices have come down. Also the screen sizes have gotten bigger. LCD the screen sizes are also getting bigger, prices are also coming down. It's still, when you make that jump, however, to, from say a 50 to 52 inch LCD or plasma, the jump, when you start getting up to 58 or even above 60, you start paying a lot of money. So that's why, believe it or not, some of these DLP TVs are, are actually for, a great deal in terms of the amount of screen you get. And then you can go all the way up, of course, to a front projection, a projectors, people commonly refer to it... >>And that's the extra projector and you project it onto the screen? >>Exactly. And, and that, you know, you can go 90 inches, 100 inches, 110 inches, just depending on, on your throw distance and, and what kind of projector you get. Those have also come down in price so you can get HD resolution in one of those projectors versus, some were even around 2,000, 2,500 dollars [inaudible]. >>People ask me about projectors sometimes and they think that they're very expensive. But those have kind of come down to almost plasma, LCD territory you know, if you think of terms of the bigger 50 inch [inaudible]. >>I mean the big issue is that you, you need a dedicated room for that with, well you couldn't... >>The screen and light type. >>Well no, that you just don't want any ambient light, and you want it to get really dark and for, that's a, that's an issue for a lot of people. You, you run into the same problem with a rear projection too. If you have sunlight streaming through your windows, it'll, it'll screw with the picture. So, you know, I have a, I have a, a home theater room set up that it's actually a home office, that doubles as a home theater room where I have a projector and it, I get it, I guess I get about 100 inch image. It's not a great projector, but if you can afford to go on up to about 8, to 10,000 dollars, you can get a really good projector at this point. >>Or you can just hire a team of amateur actors for ten grand to come in and act out all your favorite shows for you. >>Yes. >>People still buy like rear projector TVs and DLPs? Or are those kind of out now, because they're not as slim and sexy and [inaudible]. >>Well surprisingly I did look at some of the numbers on CNET and in the past couple weeks we've said, 54,000 people looking at the 61 inch plasma with the LED backlights we reviewed. So, there actually are apparently a lot of people, you know, you get these, you get a lot of people that have the basement space. They don't really care, they don't need to have a thin screened TV. They're, you know the DLPs are, they're not that deep, but they are going to be deeper than a plasma and an LCD. If you don't care so much about that... >>If you have a wall you can cut it into or something. >>Yeah, and then so it's, it's becoming more of a niche. But I think it's, you know really only Samsung, Mitsubishi are hanging on. Sony's gotten out the rear projection... >>Okay. >>Business. They used to have these SXRD TVs that were really pretty good. But the new Samsung we're finding that the LED backlighting, the LED projection, sorry, that that, you're, you don't have to deal with that lamp inside the TV. So you don't have to worry about the lamp burning out. You have it's powered by LED. >>Right. >>So that, that, there are some advantages there to that. So maybe it'll stick around for, you know, I, I, I hope it does. I happen to have one, but, if you want to go really big... >>That 60 inch... >>You know the 67 inch Samsung is just, is pretty inexpensive. It's you know a little bit more than 2,000 dollars I think. And you can, that's a lot of TV for the money. >>That is a lot of TV. Here's another question, kind of along the same lines. TV specs, what do they mean? When they say 10adp and is that something you have to have? You see that sticker everywhere. I know what it means, you know what it means. >>It's just, it's resolution and what we, you know, you ID, a lot of TVs now are starting to come in 10adp models. You'll see that with LCD TVs that, that it's almost becoming standard I'd say. >>It's like the default now. >>I would say in a couple years, you know, before you had these 720 P 10adi TV's that were as, as a little step down in resolution, but it was very difficult to tell the difference between the, obviously the source of the material you have. They don't broadcast, very limited amount now in terms of 10adp from your cable or satellite... >>Right. >>Provider. >>Most of us have 20 right? >>You, you have blue right now, but you used to have HTDVD. So those, that was the one way to start getting a 10adp signal through this, but you, it was actually pretty difficult to tell the difference. Especially if you're sitting far back from a 50 inch TV. 10adp will make a difference with two things. If you have a very large TV, and you give, and you feed it a really good source. And if you're thinking of using your computer with... >>Oh okay. >>With your TV. >>Because the TVs have very high resolutions. >>So you want to, that would be the, the two main things where you really got to watch out for that. But, I wrote, I wrote and article on, that's that's really popular. I get a lot of email on it as, it's 720p versus 10adp. A lot of people used to have to decide, it used to cost about, say it was a 500 dollar premium. >>Right. >>To get a 10adp TV versus just a 720p. And you know what I would tell people is that it just doesn't, it depends how you're using it. If you're just using it for more casual viewing, 720p, 10adi is going to be fine, so... >>But eventually everything will just be 10adp. >>Yeah. >>In terms of the sets. >>Yeah. And then, and I'd say, we're still a couple years away from that, but definitely the LCDs are moving in that direction and also plasma. >>Here's a good practical question here. What's a good choice for a full home theater system, I assume they mean audio, that's under a thousand dollars, has high quality speakers, and he doesn't want bulky speakers, thanks guys, that's from Ted. >>Well I think there are actually a lot of home theater in a box systems. We're actually seeing even some home theater in a box systems from Samsung, Panasonic, the, they're integrating blue ray into those systems. And you can get a very good integrated system for, we tend to review a lot of Samsung, Panasonic in the home theater in a box systems. And On Que has done well in the past with us. But in the, you can get them as low as three to 400 dollars... >>Yes, that's what I have. >>But we, we have various models, get, get these tall thin speakers. You don't want to go too small with your speakers because then it doesn't sound as good, but, especially in the larger room. But you know, they tend to sound, these aren't going to measure up to your higher end audio systems, but they're pretty good for the money. And when you get up into 1,000 dollars that's a, that's a pretty serious home theater in a box system. >>That's true. I think I have, I have a Sony dream system that was, you know, 400 dollars, maybe. Good for apartment living, maybe not for much more than that. And the DVD player it came with it, it's so [inaudible] I just never used it. >>Yeah, I mean one, one thing to look out for those systems is we're also seeing the connectivity is getting a little bit better. People have various components, PS3, Xbox so you start running into problems when... >>With the multiple HDMI inputs... >>Yeah, so I mean that's, that's a little bit more of an issue with the connectivity. But, they're starting to, to build more connectivity into those too. >>Speaking of connectivity, here's a question I'm sure you get all the time. And it's one of those really hot button issues. What is the deal with monster cable? Is it worth it to buy super expensive cables? Or, or can you just use the junky ones they come with the box with your stereo, game system or TV, or cable box? >>I mean you can do it if you want to be cool. No, just kidding. No, and we, we had seen it, we just don't, we don't believe in that. Where you can get perfectly good HDMI cables for just really five bucks, the store... >>[Inaudible] transferring digital signal, right? >>Yeah, I mean, where, where you start seeing, especially shorter cables, you're not going to run into these six foot, HDMI cables, not a big deal. When you get into these really long cables, they tend to be very expensive and you do need to have a better cable. But, really shorter cables, component video cables, any, you know, they, it's, the average person, if there is a difference, really can't hear the difference. And also from a video standpoint it's, it's, it would be very difficult to see the difference. >>Does it make more of a difference in component video versus HDMI for instance? >>No, and you can use, you can use standard HCHX for the... >>Right you can... >>Component if you've, you know that's one secret people don't know. That you can just those red and white... >>Just the regular RCA cable... >>You can... >>Just do three of those and you're good to go. >>You can coble, yeah you can coble stuff together. I mean, again, there are people who stickers for video, video files, audio files, who believe that it's going to make a slight difference. >>Are there some other high end brands that are a better choice than monster cable, or... >>No... >>As good? >>No. >>They're all kind of the same. >>I mean I think, yeah. I mean I think you're looking at a, you know, monster's done a good job branding something. >>Every time I'm in the Big Box retail store, the guy's all right you got to get these monster cables. >>Yeah and I think they're, they're actually running into some, some trouble with, you know, people like CNET [inaudible] maybe isn't, you know, the premium's obviously the... >>Maybe I'll do the 100 dollar, five foot, HDMI cable? >>We, I mean, we do like monster cable. It's just, it's hard to, and we certainly use it at times, it's just part of our systems here. But, we just think the premiums you have to pay are a little bit too high at this point. I mean the margins are just, just too great. >>Good for them at least. Here's another brand specific question. Also from Ted. What do you think about Bose, good or bad? I know that's another hot button topic sometimes. >>Bose, we tend to find that the headphones are good. They, they're also, it's pretty pricy. We find their, their home theater systems to be way over priced for what they are. They, they can be, you know, if they, if they cost say under 1,000 dollars or even less than that, you'll find good home theater in a box systems for 500 to a 1,000 dollars that costs, that sound as good as a Bose system that costs upwards of 2,500 to 3,000 dollars. So we, we, we generally don't recommend getting these Bose lifestyle systems... >>That's where they have them like the TV ads and stuff. >>Yeah, I mean, and they don't, there's, Bose does make some stuff very well. It's just there, there is that Bose premium. They're great marketers. So, that's, we, you know, we actually, I should say we, we don't get any Bose review samples anymore because Bose has cut us off because we did have a couple of negative reviews. >>That's on their lower priced stuff? >>No actually on some of their higher priced stuff. >>Oh. >>So, that was, that created a problem with Bose. >>[Inaudible]. >>But, but, we have, you know, we have gone out because Bose does have a very good 30 day return policy, gone ahead and I just purchased the headphones at a store. >>Right. >>Used them for the 30 days and return them. >>I thought, oh, how were they? >>They, the headphones, again, are, are, they generally do very good headphones. Comfortable. Both the noise cancelling and the data. I have this audio model that a lot of people on the subway in New York at least are wearing. >>I've seen those. >>Those are about 180 dollars, 178, 180 dollars. Again, a little bit overpriced, but they're good. At least they're good. >>Okay, okay. So while those Bose gets some of these headphone quotes together for an advertisement, we're going to take a look at a video for some speakers what, what video are we going to look at? >>I believe these are, isn't exactly a home theater, it is a... >>Okay. >>Logitech Z5 speakers... >>What... >>These are PC speakers. >>Okay, let's take a look at... >>Omni directional PC speakers. >>That's fine, let's take a look at this video for these PC speakers. >>[Background music] Hi, I'm David Carnoy, executive editor for CNET.com. I'm going to give you a video tour of the Logitech Z5 PC speakers. The black Z5's have a simple, clean, modern look. But when you pick them up, you'll notice that they do feel a little bit light and measure 10 inches high and 3.3 inches wide and 3.3 inches deep. Except for their tops and bottoms, the Z5's are clad entirely in speaker cloth, and they're designed to be omni directional. You can't remove the cloth to expose the speakers, but you can see through the cloth enough to notice that there is a single driver in the front, which appears to be mirrored on the back of the speaker. In fact, if you flip the speaker around, you probably won't notice a difference in the sound. There are no drivers on the sides of the speakers, but if you put your ear up to the side of the speaker, from a foot or two away, it does seem as if the sound is coming right at your ear. We're on the back of the speaker. There's a connection for the left speaker, and audio input with portable audio devices. There's no volume control on the speakers themselves. But you do get a little remote that allows you to control the volume from afar. You do have to plug the Z5's into your USB port of your Windows or Mac desktop or laptop, install some software. The drawback to this set up is that you do lose the USB port on your computer, but the bigger gain is losing the ungainly power supply. There's one other button on the remote that I should mention. It's this little musical note. And what you do is assign your favorite music application to it. Once you make your selection, anytime you hit the musical note button, that application will launch. The Z5 sound quality is pretty good, especially considering the price for the speakers. The detail is there, but there just isn't a ton of bases which is to be expected from fairly compact speakers that don't feature a separate subwoofer. You won't get that room shaking base to explosive moments, but these guys are much better than the speakers that ship with your desktop computer. I'm David Carnoy, and those are the Logitech Z5 PC speakers. >>And we are back with CNET editor's office hours NYC edition, I'm Dan Ackerman, joining me today David Carnoy. We're talking about all kinds of home theater stuff, TV speakers. Here's a question from Moto Jazz. He says, do wireless speakers have the same sound as wire ones? >>I think by, he means wireless we tend to refer to the wireless back speakers... >>Right, sometimes you get the back speakers... >>You get to create the back surround system... >>5.1 and they're [inaudible]. >>Yeah, I mean, I think they are, they have gotten a lot better. But what people have to understand is, you still have to plug to the wireless back cable. >>[Inaudible]. >>So while, while the main system will send the signal to those speakers, you still need, they're not just something you can stick on the wall and call it a day. They do have, they are powered. So that, that's the one big drawback about, about those speakers. But yeah, but from a standpoint of being good back speakers, you don't need to have super duper speakers, they, we're certainly seeing those wireless speakers to be pretty good at this point. >>And a lot of people, the problem they had was, was actually running the wire from the, from the receiver all the way back to the speaker. They might have outlets, electrical outlets in, in the back of the room anyway. >>Yeah, so you really have to plan. You say, okay, I do have, and then you have to try to hide that, that power wire too. So that's... >>Get some masking tape, paint it, it'll be fine. >>But, if you do have outlets where you'd want it. I mean my problem, you know, and we can talk about, there's another question actually about in wall, and ceiling speakers that someone had asked. And you really have to plan your room out. For instance, when I did my living room, and I was renovating my apartment, I, the, I didn't put the speakers in quite the right place. I put the, I put the, the back speakers in the back of the room, when ideally they should have been on the side. So the back of the... >>Oh okay. >>Your, your rear speakers should fire, if you were sitting on a couch, they should essentially fire from the sides. >>In [inaudible]. >>And if you have a 7.1 system, you have the, you have those side speakers, and then you have back speakers as well. Some people can't do that, it, it doesn't make a huge difference. It's actually good, good for surround music I was told that that's more of an ideal setting... >>Okay. >>But, but people, you get the, in ceiling speakers, a lot of, you know, people just, speaker placement ideally what you do is you try to plan the speaker placement the best you can. And sometimes I was dealing with openings in the room that, you know, actually didn't turn out to be a great sound room. My, my other room, a smaller room is actually better for sound, but some of the, some of the in wall speakers are getting to be pretty good. You, they're generally for the money, they're not going to be as good as a, a floor standing speaker or a, some of these better bookshelf speakers. But, they're... >>Are their physically different types of speakers? >>Yeah, well they have to fit into the... >>Or are they [inaudible]. >>They have to fit inside a wall, so they don't have that much room. But you know, there's a lot of brand name companies Bulk and a lot of companies out there that make really good in wall speakers. They tend to be somewhat pricy for some of the better ones. But for rear speakers, if you want to hide your speakers, I, I highly recommend actually putting them in the wall if you can. >>All right the Cold Falcon wants to know about 120 hertz for HDTV, what does that mean, do you broadcasters on that signals at this level to find that for us, help us understand that. >>The 120 hertz is a, it's a, it's a weird thing because it's sort of a gimmick, but it's supposed to help with motion blur. You get these, you know, the big thing that we test is like a quarterback throwing a football pass. And if, if it's not a good TV, you could see like that little ghosted trail behind... >>Okay. >>The football. But it's, it's, it's really for fast moving stuff. But the flipside to it, there's also another feature called anti-jutter. And what this does is it, it smoothes out film based material. And it makes it look, so you have these slow pans in a movie, and you'll see this little... >>Yes. >>Little juttering, that becomes very smooth. And there's degree you can set, there's settings you can set, degrees of it. And it actually makes, it'll make film look rock solid to the point where it basically looks a lot like video. So it, it becomes also a question of taste because some people like their films to look like films, they actually like that juttering. >>Right. >>And then some people, you know, you sort of get addicted to that, like everything is rock solid. >>Does that come from film being shot at one frames per second speed, and video at another? >>Yeah, and, and... >>24 versus 30. >>And, and then, you know, this, there again separating out this, it appears that the 120 hertz is tied into the anti-jutter. >>Okay. >>But we have, there's, there's a lot of confusion between the two features. >>Now does 120 hertz refer to like the number of times the screen refreshes? >>Yeah, and, and so, but the, the diff, the real difference you notice if more in the anti-jutter than the actual, the actual... >>Like those long panning shoots... >>Yes. >>Most like a landscape or something... >>Yes. >>Where you're watching a DVD it can look a little, a little juttered. >>Yes. >>Okay. Here's another question from, from unregistered, wants to know about virtual surround sound. I've heard about this. What is virtual surround sound? Does it actually work? Can I actually get rid of these, you know, back speakers and all the wires? >>We, it actually works pretty well if, if you're sitting in the sweet spot. >>Okay. >>So it's design, if you're, if it's one or two people sitting in the middle of the couch, and the speaker's being fired at you, it tends to work pretty well. It's never going to be quite as good as a true surround system. >>Like the pivotal speakers next to you and... >>But. >>Behind you. >>But, you know, the, they're getting to be much more affordable. It is an easy, and especially in things like bedrooms where you don't have to deal with the full surround set up. Is definitely a good option. And you, and the, it's a simple way to set up a better sounding speaker than what you get with your TV. That's, a lot of people believe it or not listen to their sound through their TV. >>The speakers that come built in to the bottom of the TV. >>So, to get, it's, it's definitely a decent step up from that. And some of the higher end ones are actually very good virtual sound. Again not as good as... >>Now virtual surround sound speakers, is that just one speaker? >>It is and it, it gives you, it, it plays with you and there's some, some illusions, but, basically the idea is that it, your ear thinks your hearing sounds coming from behind you, from the side and from the, you know, from the front obviously. >>So it takes, the place of, of the two in the front and the center one. >>And a lot of them you'll see, a lot of them in the virtual speakers, you'll see that they have several speakers in the one speaker. >>Okay. >>But I was saying there's one speaker, there's several drivers... >>Right, there's one box. >>There's one... >>And it sits in the front. >>Right. >>And it fires at you, okay, okay. Here's a question from Madison. He wants to know, what has, what 32 inch LCD has the best up scaling chip. Now that's a specific question. But lets also talk about 32 inch LCD's which is also kind of a sweet spot for a lot of people who don't have a lot of room. >>I would say sort of who cares. But, no, I mean, no... >>Well, a 60 inch, rear...? >>No, I mean we, we've liked some of the, the Samsung's the Sony's, the higher, the, I mean, it, it is, but in a 32 inch TV it just doesn't matter that much when you're dealing with a TV that size. Some of the budget sets, you sit far enough back from it you don't see, I, I, for instance I was watching with a friend a 32 inch Visio that I have. It's a pretty, I think it's, it's a 600 dollar TV, it's not an expensive TV. And the guy though the HD picture on it was fantastic. Now you'll start to see better levels on higher end TVs and better contrast. But, the reality is for, for just casual viewing, for what a lot of people are using for these, gaming... >>Right. A lot of gaming. >>A lot of gaming, you know, that, that, the LCDs have gotten a lot better with their, their refresh rates, even in the budget models. >>What should I look to pay for a... >>You don't want to, you don't necessarily want to get a bottom of the barrel TV. >>Okay. Like what's the bottom of the barrel, 399, 499? >>Yeah, you're looking at 4, in some cases we're seeing really good deals on 2007 models on LCDs, blowouts at Buy.com, Westinghouse, but those tend to be either refurbished or 2007 models. >>Okay. >>This year, as we head into the holidays, you will start to see some of those 32 inch LCD's I think approaching 400 dollars. >>Like [inaudible]... >>Yeah, all that, and... >>[Inaudible]. >>We're already seeing, we're already seeing them at 500, a little bit, slightly above 500. Again, make sure you don't want to necessarily get bottom of the barrel, but, you know, some, in some cases, for casual viewing and you don't care that much about the picture, you just want a... >>Not in the great room, the lighting... >>Try, try to get a deal, try to get that, that 2,000, you can go for that special I would say. >>Okay. Now another way people try to save money sometimes is by, instead of getting a blue ray player, they just get an up converting DVD player, those are as cheap as like 40 bucks. >>Right. >>Somebody wants to know, what is the difference in terms of viewing in terms of an unconverted DVD and a blue ray. Can you really tell, if so, how big a difference, how big a screen do I need in order to make that an important choice to actually get a blue ray player? >>You can really tell on something 50, if you're, if you're playing a blue ray on a TV that's 50 inches or bigger, ideally the bigger you go... >>Right. >>It starts to become less noticeable on 42 inch... >>Okay, a 32... >>And below. 32, again, very slight, it's the distance, especially if you're sitting further back from the TV, the, the image is going to look sharper anyway. So, you might see a little bit more pop in the colors on a blue ray disk versus an up converted DVD. The up converted stuff, it, it just doesn't make a huge difference. >>Okay. >>So it's, it's a, a bit of a, a bit of a gimmick. You really want to get that added resolution, especially if you're on a larger TV or projector, you're going to want to go with blue ray. >>Because even when your up converting you can't create resolution that's not there. >>Exactly. >>In fact when you [inaudible] a photo in Photoshop to try to make it bigger. >>Yeah. >>So going from really big stuff to really small stuff you've got with the brand new refresh of Sony's PSP player, is this the third version of the PSP right there? >>Yes, this is the PSP 3,000. >>The 3,000 okay. >>We're about to shot a video on it. >>Excellent. >>We just got it in house. The, it, it doesn't look really... >>It looks just like the second version, which was kind of different from the first. But it looks a lot like the second. >>It does have a little mike here at the bottom as you... >>Okay. >>Can see, that's for, if you want to talk on skype, so now you don't have to have the special... >>The [inaudible]. >>The headphones, and, and then, or you could actually listen, listen through the speakers and the mike. And then the screen, can't really tell here, the screen is supposed to be better. >>I've seen it side by side with the previous model. The screen is definitely brighter. >>Yeah. >>They are the same size screen, no real difference there. >>There's, there's some other minor differences. It's unclear whether they, Sony first said the battery life would be less with this screen... >>Oh yeah, brighter screen okay. >>But then, then they retracted and said they, they're going to do some, some stuff inside to make the system run more efficiently so that we wouldn't see that battery drop. So, we suspect it'll be about the same. The, this, this does have a, the, the, the screen is supposed to have more, an anti-glare filter on it so that outside, you're not going to... >>You can actually see... >>It's supposed to be better for outside. I don't think it's... >>It was very glary the original one. >>I think in bright sun light you're going to, you're still going to have a problem with bright sunlight, but, but it might be, it's also going to be a little bit brighter. And the colors as supposed to be more vibrant. >>So with the new DS coming out, the DSI, is there going to be another new PSP, or is it for a while? Or is Sony just working on their next, you know, iteration of the handheld? >>I, think they're, they'll continue to, to provide upgrades... >>On this one, okay. >>And they'll see. I don't know when we'll see the true PSP2, because... >>Right, right. >>You know and the DS I would say is just a, a relatively minor upgrade to the, the DS. >>And of course they still use the memory stick. Can't get away from that memory stick can we. >>It does get, it is... >>Talk about having a [inaudible]. >>It is more expensive, if, if you get an 8 gig card, or a 16 gig card. And I, and that really bothers me. >>Well our time has just, has just flown by. I can't believe it's been 30 minutes already. David Carnoy, executive editor here at CNET, author of the very popular fully equipped column. Thanks for joining us. And join us everyday for another live episode of CNET Editors Office Hours. ^M00:29:28 [ Music ] ^M00:29:34