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>> -- cnettv.com.
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>> Oh boy, here we are folks. Good to have you. This
is where it gets all ragged around the edges.
>> Who are you?
>> This is the good stuff.
>> Where am I?
>> This is the good stuff now. It's kind of like when
you've served everything up, when you're taking the good
scoonge out of the bottom of the pot. This is the good
stuff.
>> What is scoonge.
>> Scoonge. You know, like when you make a sauce
there's that scoonge around the whole --
>> All right.
>> I'll cook for you one day, you'll see what scoonge
is. It's like this stuff that renders out of the --
never mind. Anyway, so it's triple 8, 900, CNET is the
Holiday Help Desk phone number.
>> Yes, this is in fact the Holiday Help Desk, where we
are answering your questions all day long. This is the
desk.
>> This is it.
>> Where we sit when we answer the questions when you
call us, at triple 8, 900, CNET. C-N-E-T.
>> Yep, me is Brian Cooley, she is Molly Wood, and he is
Brian Tom.
>> [Inaudible] Brian Tom. I love it. Going global
here.
>> [Inaudible], brother.
>> What?
>> We're all hooked up to take your questions and of
course we can also do them via -- not just the phone --
but we've got a variety of webcam and video questions
coming in as well. Bunch of those are queued up. But
we want to get through some phone calls here as well.
So the call is a key way to get that done. And of
course the last hour of give away is this hour. We have
one, I think it's this one, with the display stand
attached --
>> [Inaudible] -- thing.
>> One --
>> This is the special one right there.
>> We have one iPod Touch 8-gig remaining. So that's
the last one we're going to be giving away, after they
all fall in the poinsettias. And that's going to be the
last one going out to some lucky winner. I'm putting
that right over there, right back there. Okay --
>> Cut him off [Inaudible] can you help me out?
[ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> The way you win, obviously, is to call or webcam or
have your video played on the show. You must be 18 or
older. You must be a United States resident or have
your mom near by. And you must -- there's one other
rule --
>> Can't [Inaudible] --
>> You cannot work for CBS.
>> Right, so --
>> Neither you or your family or anybody in your
household.
>> Now that we eliminated 280 million of the U.S.
population, we're down to the last 20 million of us here
in this very cozy little room. Okay, so move that
little thing in front of me a little bit so I know what
to do next. If you don't mind I think we're going to do
a quick tip, but hell if I know. Okay, here we go.
Webcam, camera, Skype, [Inaudible], okay, here we go.
And you can also record a video question and upload that
Holidayhelpdesk.cnet.com. Nice little red button right
there, which makes uploading easy so you don't have to
go use some YouTube or something. It's a direct upload
right to us, and that qualifies you going into the fish
bowl. Pretty sure we've got a quick tip coming up.
Just guessing on that. Now Molly's got to explain that
there.
>> Oh yeah, now we're going to pull a name out of the
thing --
[ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> Oh, it's a [Inaudible] it's the Product Spotlight of
the hour.
>> [Inaudible] -- I'll help him. It's the Product
Spotlight. There you go.
>> Okay.
>> What is the Product Spotlight video?
>> Here it is. It's time for our last pick.
>> Thank you. The Dell Inspiron mini 9 [Inaudible] -- [
Multiple voices speaking ]
>> A pick out of the holiday gift guide, finishing up
with laptops, and Michelle Thatcher shows us why this is
such a hot product. Check it out.
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>> Hi, I am Michelle Thatcher, senior associate editor
for cnet.com, and I am here today with our top laptop
pick for the holidays, the Dell Inspiron Mini 9. Now
you may have heard about the new network category of
mini laptops that are actually really great gifts
because of their extreme portability and their low
price. We've chosen the Dell Inspiron Mini 9 because
it's a particularly fine example of the form. You can
see that it's really light-weight, it's actually not
that much larger than a trade paperback when its closed.
So you can carry it with you anywhere, and ladies, this
includes throwing it in your purse. This Inspiron has a
9-inch screen, which makes it ideal for surfing the web
and keeping up on your e-mail, which is most of what
you're going to do on a system like this. The other
nice thing about this laptop is that it has a fairly
full suite of ports and connections for such a small
system. There are three USB ports, a BGA out for
presentations, and an SD card reader. So you can
definitely connect this to all the peripherals that
you're used to connecting your larger laptop to. Of
course you'll have to make some small concessions with a
laptop this small. This keyboard is actually a little
bit cramped, and some of the keys are not in their usual
places, so you'll have to adapt. You also make some
concessions when it comes to what goes inside the case.
Now there is an Intel atom processor which offers enough
performance for some basic computing needs, but it's not
going to give you the same amount of performance that
you'd expect from a larger, full-featured laptop.
There's also a [Inaudible] drive inside of here, which
means that you're going to have a little bit less surge
space than maybe you'd be accustomed to. See these are
all things to keep in mind. But the small size and
light weight of this system makes it a really great
choice for anyone on your list who already has a main
computer, maybe a desktop computer, and wants something
really portable for travel. Pricing starts at about
$350, and that's for a LINUX operating system and 8
gigabytes of drive space. Now if your loved ones have
been very, very good , you can spend about $500 and get
Windows XP and 16 gigabytes of drive space. Whichever
one you choose, it's an excellent value for such a
portable laptop. I'm Michelle Thatcher and this is the
Dell Inspiron mini 9.
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>> Love net books. So if anyone asked me, like, what
is my next tech purchase, something I don't have right
now, because I don't have a personal laptop, just the
work laptop, netbook is this close.
>> Totally buy it. You know, the only thing that
worries me about it is the crippling pain that comes
from typing on such a little tiny keyboard.
>> But there's a big difference on some, right? Some
are much more crippling than others.
>> Yeah, that Dell actually has an almost full-sized
keyboard.
>> Yeah, so that's one of the reasons that we're in love
with that one. Okay, let's get some more people into
the mix to win an iPod Touch. 8-gig iPod Touch. One
left to give away. So it gets kind of interesting right
now. And the first person we're going to put in there
is a video question coming in from Manuel [Assumed
spelling] in Michigan.
>> Sorry [Inaudible] but my webcam is down for today.
My question is what is the best phone for T-Mobile with
a touch-screen and MP3 player camera, Bluetooth, and I
know you can listen through the Bluetooth as well as
[Inaudible] the FM radio on the car [Inaudible] my music
to the car. Thanks, love the show.
>> Wow. That's so Max Headroom.
>> Did you guys hear what he said?
>> I kind of want to play it again. Can we play that
one more time? [ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> I know. I think I got it, but I want to make -- [
Multiple voices speaking ]
>> Pull it back? I know you can.
>> Can we play -- [ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> Okay, one more time. Here we go, folks.
>> It's coming back. It's coming back.
>> -- webcam is down for today. My question is what is
the best phone for T-Mobile with a touch-screen and MP3
player, camera, Bluetooth, and I know you can listen
through the Bluetooth as well as [Inaudible] the FM
radio on the car [Inaudible] my music to the car.
Thanks, love the show.
>> Cool. Okay. FM transmitter to the car
>> [Inaudible] but really best multimedia smart phone
for T-Mobile --
>> That also [Inaudible] to the car does he mean FM or A
2 D P streaming. Big difference. The FM thing is
really rare. Only a couple of phones have ever had
that, and they haven't done well. So let's take FM
transmitting off the table and look for A 2 D P stereo
Bluetooth. Even that is a little bit rarified.
>> That's hard to find, yeah.
>> And we're talking T-Mobile, right?
>> Yeah. I think maybe that the -- the G1 does not have
it, but I'm going double-check.
>> Yeah. I don't know offhand. We're going to check
that out.
>> For whatever reason that's stereo Bluetooth profile
is missing from a lot of phones -- [ Multiple voices
speaking ]
>> The G1 does not have that current.
>> Does not. Okay.
>> I can tell you that. [ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> That's what I thought. Yeah. So that one doesn't
have it. I don't think any of the Blackberries have it.
I think that might be the killer feature, or the one
that kills the deal, basically, for a lot of these
phones.
>> One thing that he could do is that an FM tuner, I
mean, no one wants to use the [Inaudible], you know, 30,
$40 ones that you can get at stores --
>> Right.
>> -- but if you -- if, you know, I don't know off the
top of my head any phone on T-Mobile's carrier that does
have an FM tuner that you want to transmit [Inaudible]
that might be the option at least to help that, you
know, or -- [ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> -- my old stand-by here. I mentioned this a couple
of hours ago. The Audiovox FM 100 A, FM modulator. Let
me try and pull a picture of this thing up. And it
looks kind of like so. It's not, you know, not very
sexy. It's a big old piece of parts. It's not a good
photo there. Let's go to one here. It's basically a
little gray box that you hear -- Amazon's got it -- and
it's this little box that you install in your car that
intercepts the FM antenna -- the antenna, whatever
you're listening to, on its way into the car. So this
is going to give you a much better signal than a
wireless transmitter, because it never goes over the air
to the antenna, it's hard wired in like closed circuit
TV. $43, I've put these in, one, two, three, four of my
cars, and they work really well. Not perfect, there is
a noise floor down there if you turn the volume on the
radio way up there's a little sizzle, but if you have
enough gain coming out of your MP3 player or head phone
or whatever it is, you're not going to hear it. So this
is a really good solution.
>> You know what I think the phone is, though. I think
I may have found the phone.
>> What you got?
>> It looks like the one T-Mobile phone that does S 2 D
P streaming is the T-Mobile Dash.
>> Oh, the Dash.
>> Does it?
>> Yeah. And I, you know, I personally did not love the
Dash interface, but it is in fact a multimedia smart
phone that appears to do that kind of streaming. So
that might -- it looks like that may be the one phone
that our little avatar friend can live with.
>> Nice. Nice. Good pick on that. And --
[ Inaudible comment ]
>> Maybe the T-Mobile Wing.
>> The Wing?
>> The Wing.
>> The what, now?
>> That would be the Wing. I think the Wing has A 2 D P
as well, because I see it listed here with optional A 2
D P stereo head set.
>> All right. And then the watch blo.com chat room says
the Blackberry pearl 8130 can do A 2 D P.
>> I want to say that although it's not on T-Mobile,
that the Bold does, but it's not T-Mobile. So that's
not going to work -- yet.
>> So check out the Pearl, the Wing, and the -- and the
Dash.
>> A lot of work for an avatar. Holy cow. We've got to
get into this question now, here, Line Four, Steven,
Alabama. Steven has actually turned to stone while he
was waiting. But -- [ Laughter ]
>> Steve, Steven --
>> Finally got me.
>> Steven, do you have any circulation in your
extremities left?
>> Well, I get a little bit, but it's coming back to me
now that you guys got to me.
>> Okay. We're going to take our time and answer your
questions in 30 seconds. So what have you got on your
mind?
>> Okay, basically I'm looking for a mainstream video
card, [Inaudible] gamer. I was looking at the
[Inaudible] 100 G T X plus [Assumed spelling], and the
[Inaudible] 4850. I'm not sure there's any particular
card in those two categories that stands out. Which
direction would you recommend going in, when it comes to
those two types of cards.
>> I recommend going in the Brian Tom direction. [
Laughter ]
>> Actually.
>> Great. Steven, now I've turned to stone. I don't
have an answer. No, actually I can help give you a
little guidance. I don't have, you know, exact, you
know, opinions or views on both of those specific cards
that you're talking about. But really, when we talk
about ATI and envideo, it's almost like this arms race
because first of all both of these companies put out
power house video cards that are great, and you'll see
also they'll stagger where at one time envideo will have
the most powerful card, ATI will have the most powerful
card. It's almost like an AMD Intel arms race but in
the video card world. Personal, I tend to prefer the
envideo line. That's my feeling. I don't -- there's
nothing wrong with ATI's. If you read boards, I don't
know what some of the B L O chat people think, but
that's -- I don't think you can really go wrong with
either one. It's just going to come out of personal
preference and your experience with them.
>> All right. Yeah, I have made [Inaudible] right now,
and I'm just looking [Inaudible] I'm kind of leaning
towards the 4850, but -- but basically I was just
wanting to see how you felt about that. But if they're
much equal I'll probably end up going with the ATI.
>> Okay. All right --
>> Thanks, guys.
>> Thanks, Steven. Appreciate it. Wow, guy waited
hour-and-a-half for that.
>> That's your fault.
[ Laughter ]
>> Okay, let's get into some "candid camera" questions
here. We've got Kylas [Phonetic] in Georgia, I hope I
didn't butcher that too awfully.
[ Inaudible comments ]
>> Hello?
>> Hi.
>> Hello. Hey, is it Kaylis?
>> Yeah, hi, it's Kaylis.
>> Hey Kaylis, how are you doing?
>> Good. How are you?
>> Good, good, good. How can we help you out?
>> I was debating between getting a Canon SD 770 or a
Canon SD 870.
>> Okay, so these are very similar successor models.
The 8 -- I'm sorry, the 770 we say is, you know, a great
camera, but in some ways its kind of slow. The
performance is a little slow to cycle and to move ahead
and to grab the shot, which is really key with a camera.
When you push the button you want to grab that moment.
On the other hand, the 870 which is a more recent model
and looks better I think, we had almost no gripes except
that it doesn't have any manual exposure controls, which
more about being creative. For snap shots you won't
even care. And there's no optical view finder, no place
you actually look through with your eye. It's all done
on the screen on the back. We just love that 870. We
give it a four out of five, and the sub-ratings are all
straight 8s, all the way across the board. That's
really strong. BT, what have we got for pricing on
these two?
>> Yeah, pricing. At least for the 770 if you go to
CNET's own shopper.com, amazon.com has the 770 for
$159.94. If we jump over to the SD 870, we have --
there's a refurb that you put the first hit out shows
199.95. But if you want an establishment that you might
recognize names, Circuit City is the next one at
$219.96.
>> All right so you -- a few tens of dollars of
difference there, but Kaylis, I'd go for the 870 because
you're going to have this camera more than likely for a
number of years. Good camera, it's going to be the last
one you buy for a while. The 870 is going to make you
happier. Thanks for the call on that one. Okay, so,
whew --
>> Yes. Definitely need a break.
>> What an hour.
>> I took my own little break there on the camera
question.
>> I like how you did that.
[ Laughter ]
>> Next off we're going to find out what happened in
Black Friday lines in New York City this morning. Plus,
of course, we'll be taking more of your calls. We'll
see you back here in one short minute.
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>> What kind of technology gifts do you want to open
underneath the Christmas tree this year?
>> A -- one of those big multi-touch tables, like the
Microsoft surface computer.
>> Yeah, either like a [Inaudible] with a built in
camera or a portable web camera for [Inaudible] --
>> Oh, hey, we're here.
>> Oh hi. [ Laughter ]
>> Well hello. What are you doing?
>> Thanks for the heads up, guys. We'd have been here
all day. Okay, so here's what's going on as we are
continuing to plow through the last -- about 40-some odd
minutes of the Holiday Help Desk live from CNET's
headquarters in San Francisco, taking your calls,
answering your questions, it's what to give, what to buy
for those tech lovers on your gift list this season.
And of course if you get on the show via phone, via
webcam, or via video question you're in the running for
the very last 8-gig iPod Touch that we have to give
away. We've been doing these -- we had eight of these,
we're down to one left. It's one per hour. And the
next one's coming up in -- oh, about 40 minutes, a
little bit less we'll be awarding that one. First,
let's get to a live webcam call. This one is Daniel in
Washington. Let's bring Daniel up on the screen.
Daniel, do we have you? There he is. Hey Daniel.
>> Hey.
>> Hey.
>> How are you doing?
>> I'm doing pretty good.
>> So how can we help you out today?
>> Okay, so I'm in the military and I'm going to
deploying in about two months. I'm looking at the Skype
site. They're selling a new Internet video phone for
Skype. It's roughly runs about $300. It's called and
ASUS. I'm not sure of the name brand, I've never heard
about it before. If you just go to the Skype site and
you go to shop and you look for Internet video phone,
that's what they're selling. Should I go over and buy
that or should I stick with me going over and buying
just some MacBook.
>> A MacBook with a built-in webcam, you mean -- I find
that to be much more useful. I'm all about devices that
multitask. And to buy an Internet video phone that only
does Internet video phoning versus a laptop that does
all the things that a laptop can do plus do the webcam
stuff, to me that seems like -- I mean, it's obviously
more money, it's more than $300, but if you look at that
value and all that you're going to get out of a laptop,
that seems like maybe the better option to me.
>> I'm just more concerned -- have you done a review on
this before? It just recently came out, is it worth the
money if I just buy that? Let's say -- not just for
myself, but for my Grandma that doesn't know how to use
a webcam at all --
>> A computer, right.
>> Yeah. Well -- I don't know we've done a review on
this. Let me double-check this. I haven't seen
anything come up. Skype video phone is -- I don't think
in our array of stuff yet.
>> Yeah, we don't have it on our CNET set yet.
>> Yeah, I don't think we have reviewed that one. I
will tell you though, it's not as confusing as you might
think to do -- for the parents and the grand parents to
do the video calling. What you -- the main thing is you
have to get your hands on the laptop first and set Skype
to auto launch and auto sign in, and then just tell them
whenever they want to talk to you just click your little
name. I mean, it sounds like kind of an annoying thing
to do to your parents, you know, to have this program
auto launch whenever they sign in. But then they know
if they see your name in that list that they can just
call you by clicking.
>> Yeah, well that would be fine. I'm just concerned
that -- just wondering if you guys did a review or was
it even worthwhile. Since you guys haven't done a
review and nobody's talked about it, maybe I should just
stick with a MacBook.
>> It's definitely more of a known quantity.
>> Yeah, if you're going to -- if you're open to getting
a MacBook anyway, obviously for other reasons because
you need a new notebook and that's the right one, that
built in camera is great on the MacBook. And it's so
tiny, there's no peripheral for you to lug around or for
someone else on the other end to have to have clipped on
something or to hold, however it works. I love the
built in. Go that way.
>> Yeah, I think go that way too. All right --
[ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> Thank you for the question. Good luck over there.
>> Thanks.
>> All right, lots of people stood in line across the
nation earlier this morning to cash in on great deals.
Our New York team caught up with a few of those early
birds. Let's have a look.
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>> Hey, what's going on. I'm Mark [Inaudible] and we
are here in New York City. It's Black Friday. Now the
economy, not so great this year. But that has not
stopped people from coming by. There are two lines
wrapped around this building. One is Circuit City, the
other is Best Buy. So let's make our rounds and see
what people are here to check out.
[ Music ]
>> Well, what are you here to buy, what brought you out
here.
>> I just want to buy an MP3 player for my mother-in-law
and a video game for my son. That's about it. And if I
see something for myself, I might as well grab it, treat
myself real good.
>> What are you guys here to buy?
>> Movies. $2 movies.
>> $2 movies?
>> DVDs [Inaudible] -- all that.
>> I'm looking to buy the new Sony -- what is it --
cyber shot T 300.
>> How much are they knocking off the price this year?
>> I can save a whopping $100 today.
>> So there's this suspicious white limo in the back
here. Can you tell me what's going on with it?
>> That would be my limo, because I am Black Friday's
VIP winner. I wrote an essay, a won first place, I got
a limo to pick me up this morning and a thousand dollar
gift card. All sorts of pampering, massages, I got a
video camera, and I got to go in half an hour before
everything else, and I got every door buster I wanted.
>> That is so awesome. What was this essay about?
>> It was about how I loved Black Friday shopping with
my mom.
>> So this is a traditional thing for you.
>> Yep, every year. Diehards.
>> Since when?
>> I would say maybe, eight, nine, ten years?
>> So you started the trend, the Black Friday trend.
>> And the hair trend that you see. I'm known to start
a trend or two. I got the Best Buy of the whole year.
The 52-inch Samsung LCD 1080, the hottest deal -- 1499.
Five laptops, HP, G 50, 104 NR. I know that because
I've typed it into your site numerous times. I swear to
you, it was so funny when I saw this. I've been on this
all night. I haven't slept -- all night I've been on
this web site. So that's pretty ironic. It was like
the perfect ending of this night -- morning. It's over.
>> Now the Best Buy line is still wrapped around the
block. But we were here last year and it did seem a lot
longer. I'm mark [Inaudible] at CNET TV here in New
York, see you later.
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>> New York, baby.
>> New York.
>> That's where it's at. My kind of town. Anyway, just
throwing that out there.
[ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> He's moving away?
>> He's drifting, he's drifting hard.
>> Oh, I'm drifting hard. Okay, we've got to get more
of those questions in, right?
>> We do. We've got to keep rolling --
[ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> -- who have been waiting for the longest -- I want to
go to Line Three, Molly, this is all you. Joe is in
Chicago, question about an underwater camera for
children. Hey Joe, welcome to Holiday Help Desk.
>> Hello.
>> How are you? Thanks for hanging in there so long.
>> Oh, I haven't been on too long. [ Laughter ]
>> Okay.
>> That is so nice of you to say. All right, so what
are you looking for exactly.
>> Well, actually I've got a six-year-old son who's got
on his Christmas list the underwater Little Tykes
camera. The commercial -- so not sure what impressed
him, but I'm just wondering if there are other options
out there or if that's a good choice.
>> Well, you know, I don't know too much about the
underwater Little Tykes. I will look it up here. But
the one that I see recommended the most, actually; the
Fisher Price Kid-Tough Waterproof camera, and it looks
like a serious -- I mean, it's about $100. It looks
like a fairly serious underwater camera. But they do
say it's, you know, it's underwater. It has some pretty
good reviews. It comes in blue or pink. I assume
you're looking for blue.
>> Probably. [ Laughter ]
>> That seems to be the other option. And then the
other thing that you could consider is something that is
more like a shock-proof, waterproof full-fledged digital
camera that isn't necessarily for kids. I mean, six is
old enough to kind of be figuring out how to use a
camera, and if you got one that was pretty tough, like
an Olympus Stylus 1030 S W shock-proof, waterproof, it
can take a fall and it can go underwater, and then maybe
it's something that the whole family could use. So
that's another possible alternative. Did you find
anything out about the Little Tykes camera?
>> I did not.
>> Either way, it sounds like you have three decent
choices.
>> I have seven cats and no kids. My cats can't use a
camera.
>> Seven?
>> This is completely foreign to me.
>> Anyway, happy shopping, Joe.
>> Hey Joe , thanks a lot for that one. And when you
need a camera for your cat, call old Cooley here, I'll
let you know. Let's take a look at what's going on with
kind of a forgotten art. I like to help people out who
are dealing with this. Danny is in New York City,
scanning, but has not scanning the usual stuff. Hey
Danny, welcome to Holiday Help Desk.
>> Hey Brian, hey Molly.
>> How are you?
>> Good. I wanted to find a good scanner that works
with Vista that scans not only photos but slides and
films. The scanner I had was a great Umax scanner but
it doesn't work with Vista.
>> Yeah, Umax was the king of the heap back in the mid
to late '90s.
>> I love it. It works with Windows 98 through XP, but
not with Vista.
>> Yeah, Umax have been an excellent scanner. Right now
I'm going to feel like the winner is -- is going to be
Epson. I've got to tell you, we don't do a lot of
scanner reviews these days so I'm kind of flying by the
seat of my pants here. But I've had three Epson
scanners, and I've got a Nikon and Minolta slide
scanner, all they do is slides and film. You want to do
everything in one unit, and I see why. Go look at the
Epson Perfection line, and there you've got to make some
decisions. How much do you want to spend -- and again,
these are not that much money. I kind of like the Epson
Perfection V 500 Photo, which is listing at $199 --
maybe we can get some better prices on that as well.
6400 DPI. DPI is critical when scanning negatives and
slides because they're tiny. You've got to have a lot
of dots per inch or they look like a mess when they get
scanned. It's way harder than scanning even a 4 by 6.
So make sure you get very high dot-per-inch native
resolution. Look out for the ones that say high
resolution, quote, "extrapolated." That means they're
doing it with tricks. You want real optical resolution
that's very high. This appears to be that. And then
you can make a decision to go higher if you want a
feeder to feed in large amounts of photos. But
generally, you're going be kind of trying to middle it
here at around 200 bucks and get one that does
everything fairly well.
>> I think we should start doing scanner reviews again.
Because Vista has killed my scanner. I had to get a new
-- that's the kind of thing you never think about
getting. But Vista is the -- the death of many a
scanner. We might have to start a --
>> And scanners are such a relatively low volume thing
these days. You know, a lot of folks just don't use
scanners. Everything is digital cameras and getting
images off the web. You're not scanning a lot any more.
So I think it's kind of like a cottage industry and they
probably don't get a lot of love from the folks who
write drivers over at these various companies. And
shame on those who don't. But Epson is really hot in
the scanner space. Go Epson, try the V 500, check the
specs, make sure it's going to work out for you.
>> Sounds like we have a video question next, and then
we are being begged to go to Line Five. So let's do our
video question from Eric.
>> Hello, Eric.
>> Eric, hello. You look pixely. Oh, you're all
better.
>> Hey guys, this is Eric the musician from Griffin,
Georgia, and I have a question about these little hard
drive video recording devices that seem to have popped
up in the past year or so. I know they just came out
with an HD version, and my real question is, though,
about all the generics that seem to be everywhere, every
store seems to have their own generic version. Is there
something specific I need to be looking for to make sure
that I get the best quality, comparable to the name
brand. And just so that I can make sure I'm getting
something that's good -- or should I go with the name
brand. Thanks a lot, and before I leave you --
^M00:26:03
[ Music and singing ]
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>> That's so sweet.
>> That's my man, right there.
>> That's outstanding.
>> Let's hook him up. So I think you're talking about
this kind of device right here. I'm looking at Don Nose
[Phonetic] recent video on the western digital W D T,
which is a doc that connects to your high def TV, and
then you bring a portable drive to it and it plays
what's ever on the drive --
>> I don't think so --
[ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> Yes --
>> -- and the competitors --
[ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> Thank you.
>> I'm going help him out. No. He means the Flip --
the Flip Minnow, there's one from -- isn't Creative
doing one now?
>> RCA has one as well.
>> I think RCA has one, and those are probably the ones
you're talking about. I think what you really need to
look for is a digital camera that takes video.
>> Oh yeah.
>> The thing I think that the name brands seem to have
over the no-name little HD video or little video capture
devices is that they have better software. They have
software that has sort of one-touch up loading to
YouTube. But honestly, I have -- I fell in love with
these devices when I first saw them, but I now feel like
because I sound like [Inaudible] brown, but I'm such a
multitask freak, that to get a digital camera that takes
videos is so much a better investment than to put one of
these in your pocket and be carrying around a whole
bunch more crap -- stuff -- things.
>> Stuff.
>> Yeah.
>> Brian, you have -- [ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> I am with you, because I used to be a, like,
religious Flip video, you know, freak. And now, it's
like, why do I have two things? Makes no sense. But it
does have its uses, but really -- get a camera that can
record it. And there are some cameras that do record --
or almost HD video, digital -- you know,
point-and-shoot. So --
>> Yeah, that Panasonic Lumix that we like so much is a
total -- it records in 720.
>> How did I get none of that out of his question? I
mean, zero -- zero. I would be going to the bank with
that.
>> Let's give Cooley a chance to recover with a short
break, and then when we come back, Tom will show you how
to use your laptop as a second monitor.
>> He's drunk too.
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>> A young lady comes in the store and she was shopping
for a phone for her husband for Christmas. But she was
concerned that he was going to end up finding out.
That's when I said we can do the upgrade on your phone,
and we'll leave his old phone still activated. When he
goes to bed, you take his SIM card out of the phone and
put it in the new one, and then wrap it up. Have
somebody from another room call the phone, and it will
ring under the Christmas tree. And she thought that was
the greatest thing in the world. I could just imagine
the look of excitement on his face when that box started
going off.
^M00:28:59
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>> Hey everyone, I'm Molly Wood. Host of CNET TV's Mail
Bag. Here at the Mail Bag we love to read your letters
and e-mails. The lover mail, even the hater mail. And
apparently you like it too, because when we tried to
make the show biweekly, boy it did you raise a stink.
So we're back to every week, and you can all just calm
down. But don't stop writing in, because I need you
bad. Look for the new edition of Mail Bag every
Wednesday on cnettv.com.
>> When the biggest stars -- need the biggest laughs --
think of today.
[ Laughter ]
>> The Late Show with David Letterman.
>> [Inaudible] are we laughing?
>> I'm not sure.
>> Weeknights on CBS.
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>> Welcome back to the Holiday Help Desk. We are in the
last moments. It was in all caps, so what could I do.
Keep the calls coming, the phones are open at
888-900-CNET. That's 2638.
>> And remember, earlier this hour -- are you done?
>> Yeah.
>> Thank you.
>> Call us.
[ Inaudible comment ]
>> I like how the caps mean you kind of lean back as you
say it. Caps, the new cue. It's like, Holiday Help
Desk
>> Holiday -- call me.
[ Inaudible comment ]
>> Okay, earlier this hour we showed you our top pick in
the laptop category. If you decide to buy one you might
instantly have a two-monitor set up. Let me show you
what I mean in this Insider's Secret.
^M00:30:49
[ Music ]
^M00:31:00
>> Do you ever get envious of those cool, graphic
designers with a bunch of monitors going all at once?
Ask yourself this question? Do I have a laptop?
Because if the answer is yes you can run a multi-monitor
set up of your own. I'm Tom Merit, editor of cnet.com.
I'll show you how to do it on this Insider's Secrets.
[ Music ]
>> Now I must credit my coworker Rafe Needleman with
this idea. He came by one day, saw me pecking away on
my laptop and said why don't you use that as a second
monitor. To which I said, back off, Rafe. But then I
realized it's not a bad idea, and it's uber easy. I'm
going to show you how to do it, both in Windows and in
Mac. Now I'm assuming you've got a set up something
like this, laptop and a monitor. Well, you don't have
two laptops, just one of them. First let me show you
the Windows way. You boot up, and you're in the one
monitor. Right-click on the desktop and choose
Properties. Then choose Settings. You'll see a second
screen. Drag it to a position similar to where your
laptop screen is. It should prompt you if you want to
enable this monitor. Say yes. Make sure extend my
Windows desktop on to this monitor is checked, and press
Apply. Now here's a little hitch. Maybe I can't tell
which monitor is which when I want to do that sliding.
Here's how to fix that. Press Identify, and numbers
come up on each screen. Now the other issue that didn't
happen to me here but might happen to you, especially if
you boot up in your laptop before you hook the monitor
up, is it will think this is the main monitor, put your
task bar and everything down here. Here's how to get
out of that. Select the monitor you want to be primary,
and check use this device as the primary monitor, and
then press Apply. Depending on your set up, you may
have to move the task bar up to that monitor. You just
hold down the left mouse button while dragging the task
bar to move it, and viola, you've got your multi-monitor
set up. You can configure it however you want. I like
up and down. Usually right under each other. You can
put the laptop up to the right or to the left. Whatever
you feel like. You can also look in your video driver
to see if you can save profiles so you don't have to
reset it every time you turn on your computer. Now, in
a Mac it's super-easy. Go to System Preferences, choose
Displays. And if OS X hasn't already detected your new
display, press the Detect Displays button. Select
Arrangement, and you can reposition the displays to
reflect reality. You can even reposition the doc
wherever you want. Of course there's another even
easier way. Just press F7, and sometimes that will put
the screens exactly the way you want. That's it for
this edition of Insider's Secrets. I'm Tom Merit for
cnet.com. Enjoy your new real estate.
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>> All right, back to your calls at 888-900-CNET. Okay.
Poor -- I think it's Aljehandra [Phonetic] who we know
very well from Brazil has been on the call for an hour
--
>> Oh!
>> Aljehandra, are you there?
>> Hi.
>> Yes!
>> All I want to say that I am a big fan from Brazil.
So you have [Inaudible] in Brazil.
>> That's awesome. And what is your question, after all
these long hours -- minutes.
>> Yeah, right. The question about the video cards from
MacBook. I saw in some sites that they were saying
there were problems with the [Inaudible] when you are
playing games. I want to know if Brian Tom know about
some -- know about something.
>> Yeah, I think he does.
>> Yeah, do you know -- are you specifically referring
to the MacBook or MacBook Pro line?
>> It's MacBook Pro.
>> Okay, now I think what you might have found is that
the video card was actually having issues with the
earlier MacBook Pros. I haven't read too much about any
major problems with the current new Unibody MacBook
Pros. But I do know that there was a defect and it's
actually been acknowledged in the Apple knowledge base
for the previous generation of MacBook Pros that was,
you know, now is old. But was just recently surpassed
by the new Unibodies. And I'm wondering if that might
be what you're reading about. Because with the current
line I haven't seen anything spring up, and they're
pretty rock-solid, you know , the fact that they do have
a dedicated G P processor that you can switch to
[Inaudible] and the one on the motherboard -- does that
sound potentially right?
>> I think yes.
>> Okay.
>> I think -- I think it was primarily a problem with
the older MacBook Pros. And it became a huge problem
because in video, basically, wasn't acknowledging. But
I think now in the new MacBooks is sounds like they're
going to be watching their Ps and Qs. They've got it
worked out, should be fine. Should be a pretty safe
purchase.
>> And other question. Could I download the video from
the Holiday Help Desk when finished?
>> Is it going to be available?
>> We make it available, but I think we carve it up. I
don't think you'll be able to download the whole ten
hours -- and really why would you. But we will I think
edit out parts of it and post it. But don't hold me to
it, because frankly there may be a revolt. You never
know.
>> Okay, no problem. [ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> You know what scares me? That phone call was really
good. I think he was on a real phone all that time.
>> I hope not.
>> Oh, he went broke on that call.
>> Oh, honey.
>> Oh, we're sorry. Okay, let's go through a lightening
round, guys. Let's go to Eric. He's calling from
California. I think you know him.
>> I think we do.
>> Hello, Eric.
>> Hi!
>> Oh --
>> [Inaudible] --
>> Hey, big shout out to [Inaudible] chat room. I have
-- what's up Brian Tom?
[ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> What's your flimsy excuse for getting on the show?
[ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> My sister isn't very tech-savvy, and I was wondering
-- I've been looking at all kinds of portable GPS
systems for her car. And I am at a loss. Like, could
you guys help me out?
>> Okay, so here's one of the new ones I want to talk
about. We just worked this up in the car tech podcast
that went up today. TeleNav Shotgun -- not saying it's
the best, but it's interesting, easy to use, you'd like
it because it's got some cool new tech features that you
could probably communicate to her and get her to love
it. It's one of these new connected devices. Now you
remember those -- the Dash Express that was out, the
late-departed Dash Express, because they're out of the
hardware business. This one comes right in and segues
right behind it. And it offers a cellular connection to
the Internet to some TeleNav connected data services.
It's not a wide-open browser. It's not like it's Google
or Yahoo Search which other products are. So not that
crazy about that. But you've got maps, traffic, gas
prices are in here. A variety of other information.
Buckets that they're going to add, but it's not a
wide-open web browse. We give it a three out of five.
We thought it was a little slow on the route
calculations, but that isn't always a deal-breaker.
It's often just one of those things that we like to see
but isn't really a big difference. I'm looking for a
price on this. It looks like its 299 -- oh, service
fee. Three months are free and then it's up to --
>> Fail.
>> -- 12 bucks a month. Good-bye.
>> Come on.
>> Yeah --
[ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> I think you've got to go TomTom.
>> Too bad, though.
>> I really like -- it's a little bit older, but I like
the TomTom one, Excel, which is also three out of five
stars.
>> Yeah, the Excel is hot.
>> And I find the TomToms to be so easy to use and just
-- just really -- they're just really device. They
don't always necessarily give you turn by turn with the
street names, but they give great turn by turn, they
have great voices, they have all these additional
features, like you can download John Cleese's voice and
-- I don't know. They're just -- I find them very
friendly. They're friendly. And that's pretty cheap --
>> And don't leave out the -- yeah, is 500 bucks too
much?
>> Yeah. I --
>> It's a little steep.
>> Yeah.
>> How about a new V660. I just want to put a little
love in for Garmin, because I -- Bonnie Cha just bought
me one of these on a recent long road trip I was on. I
was really impressed. I have always been a TomTom guy,
but I really loved the new V line. It's all the same
software on all of them, just different levels of
features, new V660, 200 bucks, it looks like. Again, it
competes with the one Excel. Wide screen, basically the
same category. Four out of five. We call it excellent.
Another one to look at.
>> Yeah, that's -- I did just actually trade in my
TomTom for a Garmin.
>> A Garmin. You see, yeah, Garmin is winning over some
converts.
>> Yeah, it's happening.
>> All right, Eric -- thanks, man.
>> Bye.
>> Later.
>> Bye. Okay, so we've got a video question coming in
now, and again, this was new this year on Holiday Help
Desk and it's been a huge success. This one's from Bob
in Missouri. Let's take a look.
>> Hey CNET Live team. We have a Wii that we got last
Christmas and we'd like to either get Rock Band or
Guitar Hero. Do you have any suggestions as to which
one we'd like to get for Christmas this year? We mostly
will be using one instrument, but at times when we have
friends over we will be using more than.
>> Okay, Rock Band or Guitar Hero.
>> I believe Brian Tom is already singing over there,
with his little -- [ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> Thanks to it.
>> First of all, that man kept his head incredibly still
--
>> I know, right?
>> Did you notice that? Now to the question.
>> Like the terminator.
>> If you want to have a party you've got to go Rock
Band. And the other thing about the Rock Band series is
the downloadable content, all right? You've got to go
with -- why are you guys laughing over there, what
happened? [ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> What happened? [ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> [Inaudible] okay.
>> Beautiful. With Guitar Hero, like you said, I --
with music games, the best part about it is you can play
with everybody. And if you have one guitar and you're
playing by yourself, not that I'm knocking on that, it's
not as fun. So go Rock Band, baby.
>> Yeah, I second that. Even though I never played
either.
[ Laughter ]
>> Oh, that's good.
>> Really?
>> Is it Swaty in Georgia, hey Swaty, welcome to CNET
Holiday Help Desk.
[ Laughter ]
>> What?
>> We've got a party on the phone. ^M00:40:36
>> Speaking of Rock Band parties, hello.
>> Hey Swaty, what's going on?
>> Hey, what's up. Um -- I was wondering, like , what
[Inaudible] our AT&T or Verizon.
>> That's a tough one to say off the top. I always
thought Verizon was kind of a premium-price carrier.
Why -- they were always like 5 to 10 bucks more for the
same minutes. Am I -- am I crazy, I thought they were.
>> Well, they had way higher day plans. And AT&T does
have pretty inexpensive day plans, as long as you're not
getting the iPhone. In which case you have no options
and you can only get the $30 day plan. But they do
offer 29.99 -- 19.99 -- I think $20 day plans on top of
the voice plans. Just -- and this is again totally kind
of anecdotal, I think AT&T seems a little bit cheaper.
But it's depends on the phone.
>> But you've got to go -- you've got to go pick
through, you've got to open up two browser windows, go
side by side, pick the same number of minutes, unlimited
or how much a day do you want, and X number of text
messages. That's usually your three buckets. And then
see how they -- they pan out. I don't think there's any
differences by geography, but you've got to go bucket by
bucket and just open two windows and do it.
>> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Thanks for the call, appreciate it. Good luck with
that one.
>> All right, let's keep it rolling.
>> We've got to roll. Let's go to -- two iTunes in a
row here. First one is about playing iTunes music but
not on an iPod. Say hello to Brandon, Macon, Georgia.
Hello, Brandon.
>> Hello, Mr. Cooley, how are you?
>> Doing good.
>> Oh --
>> How can we help?
>> I'm doing good. I had a Sony -- I had a Sony --
>> One of those model numbers.
>> Sony MP3 player?
>> Yeah. And I cannot get it to download my iTunes. I
have 100 and some odd songs to download, and it just
won't download.
>> Now is the music on -- you have on iTunes, is it
stuff you bought from the iTunes store.
>> Yes, I bought from the iTunes store.
>> Uh-oh.
>> Okay, so, no go, right?
>> I think you've got a no-go, unless you can convert
that music, and it's going to take a long time. You can
-- the way to convert it, because what happened is this
is the evil of digital rights management. You bought a
bunch of songs that can only play on the iPod. They're
in Apple's protected AAC format. The way to get around
it is to rip all -- or to burn all those songs on CD and
then rip them back into iTunes as MP3. And then you can
put them on that Sony player. It's going to take a
little time -- [ Laughter ]
>> I know, this is why we don't like DRM. You're basic
-- you know what you did? You basically just
illustrated the exact problem with DRM to all of the
people who don't know why it's such a bad thing.
>> How many tracks do you think you have?
>> 125.
>> That's not too bad.
>> That's not too many.
>> That's not that bad.
>> So you've got to burn about this many discs into
audio CDs, what they call red book audio, and then rip
those back to MP3s. The problem is we have what's
called transcoding losses along the way. Every time you
go from a burn to a rip and a rip to a burn you lose a
little something around the fringes. So it might
degrade your music just this much. So -- but --
>> At least you can play it on whatever you want.
>> It's the only way out.
>> Sorry, dude. Good luck.
>> At least you don't have 2,000 songs. That would have
been a lot worse. All right Brandon, good stuff. One
more call, I think?
>> I think we've got to kick to the ad.
>> Did we go --
>> Yeah, we gotta take a break.
>> They're doing this. Okay. So coming up we'll be
taking our final iPod Touch winner -- one left. Is this
yours? You won't find out unless you're here in one
minute on the Holiday Help Desk.
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>> This older gentleman comes up to me and he was, like,
my grand kids have moved away, their father is a
missionary in Africa. And I said how would you like to
see your grand kids opening their presents. As they are
opening their presents Christmas day. And I showed him
web cams. And he just kind of looked at me and he was
like, webcam. What's a webcam. You can see them, you
can talk to them. He was just amazed. He had no idea
that technology could work like that. It was awesome.
[ Music ]
>> What's up? [Inaudible] I don't know who you are, but
you're watching CNET TV.
[ Music ]
>> Off the cuff, on the fly, from the hip. [Inaudible]
Craig's monolog, the ten coolest minutes on network
television. And that's only the beginning.
[ Inaudible comment ]
>> Weeknights, after Dave.
[ Music ]
>> What kind of tech gadget presents would you love to
unwrap this year?
>> [Inaudible] I'd take an iPod.
[ Music ]
>> Sure.
>> All right, we're about to pick another iPod Touch
winner. But first we're going to try to get a few more
names in the fish bowl. That thing is filling up fast
and we've got to get it done. Okay, so let us head to
the phones. Let's try -- oh, why not a router question.
Steve, are you there?
>> Those are always fun.
>> Yes, I'm here.
>> All right, lay it on us, buddy.
>> So I have my Dell laptop, which is running Windows
Vista business edition and my iPod touch is first
generation with the 2.2 firmware connected to my router
which I got from Verizon FiOS, an Actiontec M 1424-W R
router. And what happens when I connect both of those
devices to my router, if I'm running, like, a data or
like a bandwidth-intensive application on it, such as
CNET TV or the BOL live streaming live chat it will
sometimes just disconnect everything from my Wi-Fi
network, and then I have to go down stairs and turn off
the router and then turn it back on, wait for it to boot
up, and do that whole thing. And then connect
everything back to it, and then resume what I was doing.
>> Did you call us on Thursday? [ Laughter ]
>> No, that was me again.
>> That's right.
>> Seriously, dude. You just put all of our questions
into one. Wow. That's really detailed.
>> That's amazing. We were going to, like, drag it out
and trouble-shoot. But oh no.
>> Steve, we kind of need to -- we've got to noodle on
this one. This is more than an off the cuff type thing.
And I would be wasting your time too. Can you join us
on CNET Live, which would be next Thursday?
>> I can.
>> If you please call then that would be outstanding.
You go in the fish bowl nonetheless, even though we had
nothing of value for you, whatsoever. But hopefully
we'll give you an iPod Touch to make up for it. So
you're in the fish bowl. Tom and I will tackle that one
next Thursday, I promise. And also send me an e-mail.
You know where to find me on the site. Send me an
e-mail just to remind us this is coming up, and we can,
like, hire Cisco to work on it for us for a few months,
and get that one figured out. Wow, you are detailing
with a big, grappling issue right there.
>> Monster. I believe we call that a punt.
>> Let's go to -- keep moving fast here. Line One.
IPod speaker doc. Hello Parker in Florida. Welcome to
CNET Holiday Help Desk.
>> Hello. I'm wondering what's the best iPod speaker
doc I can get, like an iHome or something like that.
>> I know Brian Tom has a huge list ready to go for you.
>> Yeah, Parker, what's your price range that you're
kind of trying to target here?
>> Maybe about $100.
>> Okay. So definitely, like you said the iHome for
people that are not familiar with it, one of the cool
features that does make it popular, it does have the
alarm clock functionality in it. I would also look just
for a little better sound quality. But not -- doesn't
have the alarm clock is the Logitech Pure-Fi anywhere
speakers. They're this long rectangular design. They
sound really nice for that -- and they're around I think
like 98 or even $78 for some of those models. Those
would be the two that I would point you to in that price
range.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> I -- I have to say the iHome speakers sound kind of
terrible, but I really like -- they've got one that I
mounted better by counters, and it has a little remote
control that is magnetic and goes on the fridge. It's a
perfect little kitchen stereo system.
>> Or -- if you want to -- if you want to kind of go
whacky, the mStation Orb. Check this guy out. Matching
colors to I think a certain generation of Nanos. Look
at that thing.
>> Oh wow.
>> It's kind of '70s groovy. You know?
>> Yeah.
>> That was before your time, B. C..
>> Yeah, it was. Way before.
>> All right. Anyway, so there's -- there's some ideas
there. But yeah, Brian's suggestions are actually
serious. So go with those. Let's go to -- I'm not
taking any router questions, so Scott, you sit still.
Let's talk to Sean who is in Wisconsin. Hey Sean,
welcome to Holiday Help Desk.
>> Hey, how's it going.
>> We're doing good. How can we help you out in the
waning moments here?
>> Oh, well you know, I'm looking to get an
android-based cell phone for myself. And I've been
looking and looking and looking on line. And I found,
you know, four or five different phones that claim to be
running android. And I'm not sure if any of them
actually are.
>> Or exist.
>> The QIGI I 6, Q-I-G-I -- the ZZZ phone, the SciPhone,
S-C-I-P-H-O-N-E -- they call that the Dream G2. And of
course the T-Mobile G1. Now I know the T-Mobile G1 is
real, but I'm not a big fan of that design. And I'm
wondering if this of these other phones actually exist.
>> Well, I -- I think they probably do exist. I mean,
the SciPhone Dream G2 has been written up as the G2.
The thing is that they're not -- they're not phones from
big name -- I mean, what happened is android -- anybody
can use it. Anybody can put a version of android on
some hardware. And at this point it's going to come
down -- you're probably going to be seeing a lot of
phones that are some version of an android phone. It's
just going to come down to you being a savvy shopper.
You know, the only android phone that we consider to be
official right now may be fairly or unfairly is the G1,
because it's an HTC phone. I mean, it's a, you know,
and it's with a major carrier.
>> And are any of these other phones picked up by a
carrier or are they just out in the wild.
>> No, they're all unlocked Chinese phones.
>> Yeah, that's where it's going to be dicey, especially
if you have any hassles. Your carrier is going to say,
better luck, baby.
>> They're going to go, I'm sorry, did you say unlocked
Chinese phone?
>> Yeah, click.
>> On your own.
>> Right. So --
>> I'm a little bit worried. I was specifically looking
at the zzzPhone. And their web site looks like a
12-year-old made it.
>> It's very possible --
>> And you -- [ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> You already had the right instinct.
>> Yeah, you're on the right track there, little buddy.
>> Go with your gut, baby. Stay away from that. Alex
in Dayton , question about hard drives and networking.
Hello Alex.
>> Hello.
>> What are you working on over there?
>> I wanted a single hard drive that I could use for the
whole house, just so everybody could use it and network
that all out to everybody. And I just didn't know which
would be the best one.
>> Well the one that I would say we like the best with
maybe a few qualifications but not many is called the is
Drobo, the data robot. And this is what's called a nas
device. If you're looking generically what you're
looking for is a nas device. Network attach storage is
what that means. It's a hard drive that you connect to
the network and every machine on the network can access
it to write or to read. That's what the nas concept is.
The Drobo is a very slick device because it allows you
to take any hard drives you've got of different sizes
and stick them in there and add them all up into a big
old stack of storage. And you can configure it
different ways for various types of security and
performance. We're very fond of this device.
Unfortunately, it's not the cheapest. It tends to be a
little on the pricey side, and I believe you still have
to buy a separate network adapter for it to make it a
network drive, not just a USB or FireWire drive.
>> Yeah, that Drobo is pricey. We also like the
Synology, S-Y-N-O-L-O-G-Y disc station -- DS 107 plus,
which we say is the most sophisticated nas device we've
ever tested. It's a little bit -- it might be a little
bit advanced in terms of networking, but it's very
powerful.
>> And another way to go, if you have an old computer
around, I mean, any kind of old computer, you can turn
that into a server, a storage server is a great way to
get your self this kind of device without having to buy
any hardware. Because a computer that sits on the
network that has its drives shared within its operating
system is a network attached storage drive. And Tom
just gave me a great reminder here -- freenas.org --
free, N-A-S, dot, org, open source software to turn that
old PC into a storage server. I bet you've got an old
computer hanging around. Why don't you just do that.
That's what I do. I don't own any nas servers, I just
make them out of old computers.
>> Yeah.
>> It's time for that moment we've been waiting for
since 8 AM this morning. [ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> And of course the last call -- I can't pronounce the
name the J-N-O -- how do you pronounce your name?
>> Joe Mac?
>> Joe Mac. Of course. That's obvious.
>> Obviously. That's how you spelled it.
>> J-N-O.
>> What's up, Mac?
[ Laughter ]
>> Okay, so you're the last call, man. What's your
question for us?
>> Well, it's about [Inaudible] and I'm kind of -- I
need to buy one right now. My brother is begging me for
it. And I want to see if it's really worth it to spend
$100 more and get the more expensive one rather than get
him the 399, and especially Tom Merit -- Tom, I think,
yeah -- he did mention that credit card and a $150 off
--
>> Right.
>> Yeah, Brian Tom is waiving his hand madly. He has so
many thoughts about this. [ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> Okay, so really the difference in that $100 -- the
more -- $100 higher priced PS3 is the hard drive
capacity. The standard one is the 80-gig, right? And
then you have the 160-gig. Functionality is -- there's
no difference. Unfortunately, neither of those machines
will be backwards compatible with PS2 games. You won't
have the media card readers in the front for Flash so
you can just stick in your camera cards and watch them
right off the bat. And they both only come with two USB
ports. So it really comes down to if you feel that
you're going to be using this more as a media device to
download movies and TV shows or play a lot of demos, and
maybe use it as a media server. That's where you might
think the $100 is more worthwhile for you. Otherwise, I
got the 80-gig. I'm happy with it.
>> Okay, slow down --
[ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> PS3 play. Are we talking about AVI files?
>> Geez, it supports a variety of files. It supports --
I don't remember if it supports Windows media files off
the bat, but, like, you know, MPEG 4 files, what -- and
also, like I said you can purchase them directly through
the PlayStation network store for a lot of those high
def TV shows and what not.
>> All right. So that's the way we're going to take
that. It's pretty clear which way to go on that one I
think.
>> Cheaper.
>> Okay, it's time for another winner. This is our last
winner. [ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> Bonnie's put the last ones in.
>> 154 calls today. Thank you so much for an incredible
turn out for the Holiday Help Desk. Molly --
>> And look. No, no. I have to give my pick over to
Tom.
>> Dr. Tom Merit --
>> Dr. Tom Merit.
>> He didn't get to draw one and he lost his [Inaudible]
-- come on in Tom.
>> Tom Merit is going to give us our last winner. It's
-- [ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> His scratchy old voice.
>> This is the last one, folks. Here it is. Who have
we got, Tom? [ Laughter ]
>> Give that to [Inaudible] --
>> Steve in Utah. Needed a DSB light for his daughter
from the noon hour, Pacific. Going way back -- back in
the stack. Steve, the phone is ringing. That's us.
Pick it up when we call, we want to give you one last
little bit of a chat there. We're done!
[ Multiple voices speaking ]
>> -- the show is over.
>> That's all right. He left. That was six hours ago.
You kidding me, he's at dinner.
>> And he probably -- he's Utah, yeah [Inaudible] west
coast. Yeah. He could. All right folks, thank you so
much for joining us. On behalf of all of our hosts
today, myself, Molly, Tom Merit, the pieces of him that
are still left, Brian Tom, Natalie Del Conti, and a
phenomenal production and technical crew on Holiday Help
Desk. We thank you so much for an enormous turn out,
making our fourth year such a big success. Thank you so
much, we'll see you next year on the Holiday Help Desk,
and next Thursday on CNET Live. Bye-bye.
^M00:56:26
[ Music ]
^M00:57:09
>> Sector Two, recon complete.
>> Activity in Sector Three.
>> We've got police at 12 o'clock.
>> Here we come.
>> It's payback time.
>> Launch attack on my go.
^M00:57:40
[ Music and background noise ]
^M00:57:55
>> I'm going to get you next year.
>> I don't think so.
>> Not going to happen.
>> I get a big ball of it and then I compact it as much
as possible. And then I stand back and I just --
>> Everyone loves a good snow ball fight.
>> Every winter me and my brothers have a snow ball
fight, and every year I vow to get even with them.
>> Bad guys are mean, man. They come out of no where,
throw snow balls at you.
>> I always want revenge.
>> Sometimes you can use a little technology to gain the
upper hand.
>> All right, so we would need walkie-talkies.
>> Hands free micro talk radios.
>> Then I have one of those really small computers.
>> Binoculars.
>> Dark skull caps.
>> Your pet monkey who is rabid.
>> Wireless surveillance.
>> Can even take pictures and video.
>> Ooh, zoom, buzzz!
>> If it made a noise they would find you.
>> No more ambushes.
>> Advantage? Technology.
>> I would win.
>> Kick their butts.
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