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Jeff tests the top half of a Teslasuit, and experiences haptic feedback in virtual reality. Also, we deep dive into hologram assistants, an ATLAS robot butler and gesture-controlled prosthetics.
On today's show, we take a deep dive into a hologram assistance. Alice the Robot as a butler and a futuristic, prosthetic limb. We also have some friends coming by from Tesla suit to put me in the suit. And give me tiny electric shocks for the entertainment of everyone. And I assure you, mostly the entertainment of me. [LAUGH] Tomorrow Daily. [MUSIC] Greetings citizens of the internet. Welcome to Tomorrow Daily, the best tech talk show in the known universe. I'm Ashley Esqueda. And I'm Jeff Cannata. Today is Thursday. We are deep diving into some stories that hopefully you saw us talk about a little bit earlier in the week. We've got some good ones this week. Yeah we have some really good stories this week. And then as Jeff just mentioned in the cold open [UNKNOWN] Reached out to us after we covered them on last weeks show and they happened to be in Los Angeles this week and so they stopped by the studio They were here from London so we were very lucky to have them and they We were And the suit happened to fit. [LAUGH] The suit just so happened to fit Jeff. Yeah. And so we tested it out on him like a human guinea pig, and it was delightful. But before we get to the [UNKNOWN] suit, let's deep dive into our headlines. [MUSIC] Okay, story one, I think, probably the most popular story this week. Yeah. Hologram assistant. Well, everybody wants a hologram assistant. That's true. And especially when it's designed by the Japanese to look like a cute little school girl. A cute little anime from Harajuku. I mean, I have said many times on this show how much I love my Amazon Echo. I really, really dig it. And to have it have a sort of Cortana es. A personality. > Yeah, a form, a physical form. Yeah. I'm into this. Especially if they let you sorta decide from several different versions. I don't know if I want the creepy sorta underage girl. DLC cuz you get your sorta downloadable content. Microsoft could release Cortana for this. [CROSSTALK] Yeah, the Cortana or Or like just like a little Morgan Freeman. Yeah a tiny Morgan Freeman. [LAUGH] I want tiny Morgan Freeman to like tell me to wake up in the morning. I still as, always and forever want Gladys. Yeah? To just treat me like garbage like I don't. I must really love being treated like garbage, because I really love Gladys and I just, maybe her or Wheatley, a little Portal 2? There you go. Just sort of nebbishy and weird the whole time. Just kind of, I don't know if this is gonna work but I'm gonna do it. And then he kind of turns on your internet of things, like, I Started the copy, I'm sorry. It was terrible! Don't blame me. That would be charming. I don't know, was this a Target video? Or, is this actual functioning tack? I think this is a Target video. I think this is, I do not read or speak Japanese. So, this is very difficult for me. I believe this is sort of a proof of concept type of thing. Right. Thing, so. I think this is what they hope to achieve. This is the idea. We did kind of see at CES a lot of hologram slash projection tech at tech west. True. That was high quality like that. It's getting better and better. And I'm ready for there to be You know, little holograms in my house. And people, my world with stuff, that's cool. Yeah, I don't want them to proliferate the house, though. I don't want one [CROSSTALK] like that would make me. More holograms than people is a bad ratio? Yeah, no. Don't be outnumbered. [LAUGH] My hologram virtual system is in your home, that's a general rule sum I think we can all establish and agree upon. Yeah. Yeah, I really like this idea of, and in the video I think my favorite video is he leaves, and bye, see you later, and then you come home. And it's like been greeted by a dog, except it's a person. And they're like, hi, hi, how's it going? Like, don't worry, I turned on the coffeemaker for you, whatever it is. I keep going back to the coffeemaker. It's a little Tinkerbell-esque, right? Yeah, it is a little bit Tinkerbell-esque. Like when she wakes him up in the morning and she's like, hello! I know, it's like, wake up! Wake up, good morning, it's time to wake up. [LAUGH] I don't know, I think the first few times it would be a little startling. It would be a little Creepy. Yeah. Again, another thing I think we can all agree on, it would be really creepy. But it sounds really fun, and these are visions of the future. These are absolutely things that I see, and I'm just like, man, this is what I want. Here's my question to you, Ashley. We get this technology, and then you're able to customize the look. Do you want a tiny yourself? No! No. You want someone else. Yeah. What about a tiny your husband? I could go for that. [LAUGH] That was very revealing, the way you answered that. But you'd have to be able to Choose that personality that you want. Cuz like, I want. Best version of husband. No, just a little feisty. Like a little fun, a little feisty. I don't want a doormat. I didn't marry him for that. He stands up to me. I like that in a man. He stands up to me, it's important. Otherwise, I'd just steamroll everybody. You're like, stop it honey, I'm talking to mini you right now. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'd be like I'm going to have this conversation with the hologram version of you. Hologram Jimmy. That's what I'm named. I think we're ready for you know, assistance. I'm ready Ironman type assistance. And our second story is basically. Well, before we run into our next story. I just want to say we have a hey tv that I thought, actually spice tiger on twitter I think really summed up all of. Our story this week with this one tweet. He said, I welcome our new nuclear powered atlas hologram assistant faced robot overlords! Wow! Well done! I think for 140 characters, you've pretty much summed up this week's show. I think that's kinda the thesis statement of Tomorrow Daily right there is that we welcome Whatever future may come but bring it, give us the tech. Let the chips fall where they may. That's very true and so speaking of future tech. Yes so we have an actual physical robot. This is not a hologram but the idea is In the same way that our hologram first story is about helping you and having an assistant in your life, a bunch of guys making robots are like, you know what we could use is somebody to tidy up around here. Yeah. I really love this. A perfectly good robot sitting in the corner. Let's- Multi million dollar outlets robot. Let's retrofit him and make him work So there's some wonderful video of them making this robot tidy up their workspace. Yeah. Ya know moving the ladder. Picking up the ladder, moving it about. It's just pretty cool. I mean, I gotta. That the squat position too. That's hard on the quads. Yeah, no. But he's doing good. He's obviously not skipping leg day. [LAUGH] Right. Alex does not skip leg day. So this is very impressive amount of, the idea here is that they're not directly puppeteering the robot. They are controlling him with a joy stick, but they're saying Initiate certain tasks, and then he is autonomously figuring out how to do that task. Unfortunately, sweeping is not his strong suit, [CROSSTALK]. He doesn't push the broom forward and backwards, it's side to side. And I don't think it's really cleaning anything up. This is how I swept when I was ten years old, and my dad's like, sweep the backyard. And I was like, it's done, right Dad? Duh, he's like, "You just move the dirt around." Exactly, exactly. It's the same. Yeah. Robots are kind of like children in a way. Yeah. We discussed this before. I really like, sort of the origin point of this. This team I believe the IHMC, they're based in Florida, and they actually came in second place at the DARPA Robotics Challenge last year, and they had this Atlas robot hanging around, and it's not like they had it in a broom closet or anything, they're still working on it, so they- Yeah, maybe it would have been better at sweeping if it had been in the broom closet [LAUGH] I know, yeah they [INAUDIBLE] To learn some of those brooms better. So they all were trying to continue to work on the robot. This part, this part where he uses the foot pedal. I know. That's kinda terrifying. It's very human like. And I think it's 20 times the speed so this thing is moving real slow. Yeah. Guys, don't pay your Atlas hourly is what I'm saying cuz you will go broke if that is Probably not a good idea. So they, as they are programing this robot and trying to do new things with it, have a complete new chat and things, they were like okay, this is kind of boring. Cuz it does the same things over and over, the same Tasks. So what are some tasks that we can do to help the robot to test new code as we upload it to the robot.>>Yeah.>> So they came up with these sort of fun ways to get the robot to do other things aside from kind of the. Standard series of tasks- Yeah. That they had been doing up until the RC championships. It's very impressive that this thing can really handle things made for human beings, and deftly. You know, as you said, it's kind of misleading because it's going much slower than this video indicates. So much slower, yeah. But still, he's figuring out I say he, it, it's figuring out how to handle all those things and what to do. Yeah. I mean we are on the cusp of robots that will actually be useful in the world. I mean with quantum computing, we're on the precipice here. This is definitely kind of a Singular moment in not only robotic but computing. I mean there's so many things, batteries, we're looking at graphing. We truly are at a point now where it's really a tipping point. I look at it he's like, I did what, what? [LAUGH] I'm just a robot, what do you want me to do? Yeah you're right, I kicked it over. I'm angry, you should pay me more. Like that's [UNKNOWN]. We've got some tweets. heytd Firas wrote in and said while we're at it, can we get a robot that does laundry/folding, cooking dishes and PA to help with emails and such. Yea. Hashtag more times for games. There you go. I like all of that. That's when they turn on us though. Because when we're sitting there gaming with the VR headset on assuming that they're just tiding up. You've got to get the vibe so it could tell you when someone's proximity at you. Exactly. But then all of the sudden you take your thing off and they're just staring at you and it's creepy with its laser eyes. And then it burns out your retinas and it's all over. Why don't you get off your **** and do something yourself. But then robots are going to want you to clean. And then what happens when the robots decide they want more time for games? Yeah. They're like, ready player two. [LAUGH] And then we are the ones doing all the cleaning again. John also wrote in and he sent us a few tweets, he said, Alice is so lame compared to Rosy the robot. Can't you just hear her trying to train him? No, you already had a pile dear, why are you sweeping it all over the floor? Come on, Atlas, let's go. You're literally moving in slow motion. Yeah I agree. I think Rosie the robot would be super annoyed by atlas and his inability to get things done in a timely manner. I appreciate everybody attempting to create a Rosie the Robot, And I like the Jetsons, but how come are we working on dinosaur tech from the Flintstones, because those were you know show that were very similar. Very similar. And I for one want the Brontosaurus dishwasher. That's what I want. You know or like, What is that old. It's like a boar or something. Is it. As a garbage disposal? Yeah! Just throw a pig under there. So gross. I think we can make that happen. I don't see why not. Honestly. I mean, DNA, genetics, Jurassic park, we're kind of working on that. Get that Christopher Casaneine going. [UNKNOWN] Okay, so last story is actually, we're going to start off with a clarification. Mm. With clarify Yeah. So yesterday we did a story about the Myo Armbands being used to gesture control a prosthetic, here's a video right here Look at that. That's crazy man. So amazing And so, you can see he's wearing the Myo armbands up there, there's two of them. And they are taking signals from his muscles, and then it goes to a computer and then it controls the prosthetic. So, we mentioned that this was a very good thing, potentially, for non-invasive prosthetics over time. And I want to A, apologize because it might have been a little bit misleading in that to sort of suggest that the prosthetic itself that that gentleman, Johnny [UNKNOWN], was wearing was non-invasive. That's actually Built into his bone. It was like a very- Yeah, pretty much as invasive as it gets. Intense procedure. Yeah, this prosthetic, you can see, it goes right into his arm. Yeah. So, that is a separate part of the story So we wanted to clarify that. But the mile armbands being able to gesture control a prosthetic is the non-invasive part of that story. So the prosthetic and the bands are two separate units that are working together. Yes, so the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics lab built that Prosthetic. Matheny went through quite a few procedures to have that done. And then he was able to use the Myo armband to control it. So, the noninvasive part being Myo armbands being able to control it as opposed to Centers embedded or implanted into the skin or the muscle, that's the one big thing that a lot of people, it's very costly on top of- Yeah. Having a prosthetic whether that is non-invasive or an invasive prosthetic, that already is such a big cost so, to bring down any cost of prosthetics would be a really big deal. So, the [UNKNOWN] thing is really, really cool but yeah, again clarification and we just wanna apologize if that was a little bit confusing And thank you for pointing that out to us, cuz a couple people had mentioned, this was a little confusing. I didn't understand. So totally that. But still a very hopeful story. I think in that progression Of of getting to the point where we want which is having the stuff controlled in a very natural way. Indeed. And getting the tech to work together and to be able to really restore a lot of functionality to people that have lost it. It's pretty amazing. Yeah, and if you look at the technology in prosthetics even over the last let's say five years, maybe ten. Like everything that has been used up to a certain point you couldn't grab anything. That didn't require, or that required any level of finesse. Right. You couldn't have anything fragile. Right. And it's pretty amazing now that we're seeing videos, we've talked about this. We've seen double amputees with two bionic arms and they're able to pick up things like eggs, and they don't break them. Right. It's pretty impressive stuff. And we see low-cost 3D printed prosthetics, and we're seeing. There's so many different options now available that it is pretty incredible for the amputee community to be able to have options. Mm-hm. And things like this, with my arm band are only gonna make those options more expanded, and that Can only be good for everybody involved. Yeah, it's progress, it's progress, it's pretty cool. And you know, what you want to see is it to be completely natural and integrated into life Yeah You know, breakdown Down that barrier between the human being and the technological piece. So, I don't know, I think this is very encouraging and very exciting stuff. Yeah. I mean one of our favorite things here on the show is being able to report on stories like this because, it just, it is a very instantaneous and obvious display of future technology. And that is one of my favorite things. We can talk about- Yeah. You know the mission, of the general mission and things, but it's so intangible to think about until it happens. How it applies to real human lives How it applies to real human lives every day. To see things like this it really just kind of drives home why we do what we do here and this is why we do the show so. And then we had one piece of feedback for this on hey, hashtag hey td if you guys want to yell at us about the show. Will said, can we get a better live action Goro with those prosthetics? So, not to replace, maybe an amputee's arm, but to add additional arms to people that already have them. Yeah, so, like, visual effects. That's step two baby. Step one, you know, where it's needed. Step two, give me third arm, for constant high-fives. [UNKNOWN] Only has one arm for high fives. That's my high fiving arm. I'm not gonna [CROSSTALK] else. I like that. I'm sorry you can't. I don't shake hands [INAUDIBLE] Just shake hands with my high five arm. Did you do something awesome? Report to the high fiving arm. Right up there. [LAUGH] I'm so disturbed by that but also so amused. So that is it for our headline. We're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna show you a very brief clip of what's to come which is Jeff enjoying the Tesla. Enjoying? Enjoying, I don't know if that's the right word. That'll be for you to judge. Experiencing the Tesla suit. But we will be right back and we have a full segment just chock full of excitement for you about the Tesla suit so stick around. It's [UNKNOWN]. My gosh. [LAUGH] That's in the abs. [LAUGH] That's something. That's something. [MUSIC] Welcome back, earlier in the week, the guys from Tesla Studios came over to show us their full body haptic suit, the Tesla suit. And this is what happened. I'm in a suit. Jeff is in a suit. It's official. We're here checking out Tesla suit with the co-founder of Tesla Studios the Teslasuit Dimitri Marozau. We We haven't quite finished calibrating. No. We're going to finish doing that and maybe torture Jeff a little bit in the process. So, let me just explain first of all the way the suit works currently is, there's a, I have a white t-shirt under this that's wet, to help conduct the electricity to my body, right? But you also said it would not work that way with the final production model? Yeah. Yeah. It'd be fully built into a single layer of Clothing, which is kind of amazing. And we have the belt, which is the communication device. And then there's all kinds of different points on my body that are going to give me sensations and we're about to calibrate those sensations now. Yeah, we're gonna calibrate this. So which one should I do with it? Top one, yeah, now hit editor. Top one? Okay, let's test this out. Just plug in [UNKNOWN] connecting. [CROSSTALK] That's in my back that's certainly in my back. I know, sorry. I definitely feel that in my back. Sorry okay. So we have a lovely array of different intensity level sliders and things. So let's do some tests here. Okay, so you just tell me where exactly Did the jacket touch you? [LAUGH] Show me on the doll. Show me on the bear. That's up here on my shoulder. Okay ,at the shoulder. Yeah, it's like a light tapping sensation. Okay, let's try channel five. That's in my abs. [LAUGH] Okay. that's only 15%. Are you ticklish? I'm very ticklish. Okay, we won't play the tickle simulator game today. What about channel ten? That's in my; shoulder. That's in my shoulder blade. Okay, sot of a rib. Yeah. All right, where's channel 13? [LAUGH] It's in my tummy. Okay, I'm really enjoying this and we haven't even started yet. [UNKNOWN]. [LAUGH] This is your killer app, just a torture simulator. Yeah, that's what I want, just a terrible electric Intro. I've, again- No, it's not unpleasant at all. It definitely ->> The pit of despair, that's what I'm gonna make that app. It feels like a tapping right now. Sounds like his crick. I'm excited to see where we go from here cuz you've been saying that that's just the first part of the problem. Yeah, that's only the beginning. Okay. Okay, on a scale of Like my abs because I'm ticklish to wherever, like where would you say you could withstand the most like the higher level. I don't, surprise me. [LAUGH] Okay, well. I don't know what any of these channels are, so let's all be surprised together. Let's do channel seven. I'm gonna go to 50%. Whoa. That's my [INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGH] Yeah, you found it. You found the place that I'm the least [UNKNOWN]. That's in my shoulder blade, that's cool. Okay, let's go [UNKNOWN]. Okay, that's down back here. [LAUGH] Okay [LAUGH]. Wow. Okay. I'm going to do two at the same time. No, no, no. [LAUGH] Wow that's intense. Okay, okay. Okay, All right. Okay. So I think we calibrated. I think we're good. You calibrated. It is definitely working. It's definitely working. So now do we want to try the game? One second, yeah. This was only calibration so I'm going to show you the second part. Second part. Part two, I can't wait. Yeah, we tested that all of them working. Yeah. Now we going to change the preferences, so this is the most exciting part. Okay. There's an even more exciting part. I'm getting excited but. So if I pull some [UNKNOWN] So just, you start to feel [UNKNOWN] and then, so just you'll tell me if you feel uncomfortable. Yep. Is it, yeah, this one? Comfortable? Nothing yet, I don't feel anything. Yeah, okay, so this one? Is it comfortable? No. Okay, so it's probably, [UNKNOWN] just a second. [INAUDIBLE] yes, it's all plugged in. Yeah, it's up here. Okay, is it comfortable? Yeah? OK, there we are. Yeah this one? Yeah, in this area. Okay this one. Yeah in the back. Yeah okay. That's comfortable, fine. Yeah, okay, I guess we should also [UNKNOWN] That's in the belly part. Yeah is it fine now? Yeah it's like this entire area is happening Do you feel it? I don't feel anything there. This one? No. Do you feel all of them now? I didn't feel the last two, but. Yeah, okay so is it on now? Mm-mm. Yeah. Hold on just a second. [INAUDIBLE] [UNKNOWN] As I tap it? We will get the feedback on this so we're going to replace the bottom because- Because it switches really easy if you move. I gotcha, okay. It's all in process so. For anybody watching, this is an earlier prototype, this will not This doesn't represent the finished model, this is the one they are actually like testing with, getting feedback with. Yeah, that's happening, that's happening. Things are happening? Yeah, that's happening. Now, what is the point of exactly of adjusting the frequency of everything, is it to make sure Boy, boy, that's all over the place, that's happening everywhere. Does that feel like spiders? Spiders? A little. [LAUGH] Is this- They were electric spiders. Like robot spiders? That's really- Is it now? Something, man. [LAUGH] You're being attacked by robot spiders. I definitely feel it. You feel it? Yep, yep. Okay, so, I'll just pull on other side. So, you feel it? Please describe what each of these feels like. It's like somebody's Tapping me a lot. Hold on. Hold on. Wait a second. Robot player. Okay. This one? Yeah. That's all on my back. My entire back. Comfortable? Yeah. Is this comfortable? Yeah. Yeah. That's comfortable. LIke [INAUDIBLE] you're being stabbed? This one? Comfortable? Yeah. That's a lot of massage happening. That one is intense. Yeah, okay. That was intense- Okay. [CROSSTALK] You're gonna get an ab workout today. It's still going. Now, I'll show you what is intense- [CROSSTALK] It's still happening. So, I'm going to change the frequency. See that? Okay. And now? Holy crap. [SOUND] [LAUGH] No, let me explain what just happened. [SOUND] It's still happening. [SOUND] Nothing really calculates. It's still happening by the way, it's all still happening. Okay, so This is the best day of my life. [LAUGH] This show just literally. This is the pinnacle. [INAUDIBLE] So imagine someone with very sharp fingernails is like tapping you. It's not unpleasant, but you definitely feel it. And then imagine they took a lot of cocaine and they're just able to tap it in an insanely fast frequency. That is what happened. Amazing. Okay. All right. All right. The next [INAUDIBLE] Boy. This is one of my favorite .This is what I call a remote control. Yeah. So it's a touch simulation. Okay. I'm still laughing. Sorry. I'm tearing up a little bit. This is so funny to me. So I'm going, let's [UNKNOWN]- Yeah, we got the jacket here. Yeah, so there we have front part and back part. So what you could do, you could actually try to control. Neat. Yeah. The same dude was. So this is a voodoo doll. So If I were to say. It's a voodoo doll simulator. Yes. So basically if you closed your eyes and I was like, Jack, there is someone behind you. Yea, he's tapping on my back. That's this person. [LAUGH]. Or like yea, hey, it's me. Yea, I felt that. I definitely felt that. Awesome. This is great. My goodness. You could also- Please be careful. [LAUGHS] We don't even need the game, right? We could play with this all day. You could reduce the power, so it's a little bit more smoother. How is this now? Is it better? Well, you're screaming less, so that's a good sign. That's gentle, that's very gentle. Like nicing, like getting niced. Yeah. that's. And now let's change frequencies. Same power. That feels very pleasant actually. Ok. What would you, how, what would you describe that as? That feels more like a massagers like if I was in one of those electric massagers and I put it right on my belly. Knead Yeah. Or a cat was doing the knead on you, a little bit? Yes. It feels less like being electrocuted than before. Change the frequency and- Wow. Feel the difference? Yes, very. That was a brief, like I licked a light socket for a second. [LAUGHS] I'm trying my best to describe it. Jeff does in fact know what that feels like. [LAUGHS] Because he often licks light sockets. You know what? Sometimes they just look lickable. They look so delicious. Yeah. The snozzberries taste like snozzberries. The light sockets taste like electricity. All right, should we take the power out of your hand a little bit? >. I think so. Yeah, I think so. And put me into the virtual environment? Are we ready to put him into the [INAUDIBLE] Yes. Okay. I just need to [INAUDIBLE] Please. I mean already Just that interaction with your loved ones. Already amazing. I think, already worth the price of admission. Now, we should talk about, really quickly, while we're getting this set up. So, one of the concepts behind this, is not just for video games. We discussed, before we started the calibration, giving hugs to people from locations that would otherwise not be Yeah, long distance hugs. It's possible, long distance hugs doing things like sports. Medicines, yeah. Sports medicines, all sorts of different types of uses for something like this that goes well beyond gaming, which I think is really cool because it's not just about, You're going to be able to feel like when you get shot by an arrow you know in a game. Now it's gonna be so much more than just feedback for virtual reality gaming. There's a million different uses. Right. This is the platform. Yeah. Alright, I'm in the game baby. Can I shoot? I can shoot. And you guys can see going [CROSSTALK] I can shoot. He's shooting me in the back. He's shooting me in the back. Stop shooting me. Now, do you wanna just not hold the controller and hold your back as if you are bleeding to death? I think I did that. I think we just realized what would happen if I was really attacked. I would just drop my weapon and just hold myself. All right, should I. [UNKNOWN] at the end of the segment he'll be in the fetal position, just crying on the ground. Won't be able to see it. i'm frightened of people shooting me. Where are they? It does look like you are shaking, maybe just a little bit. Did I turn away from the camera? Do i turn back to the. You can, it doesn't matter. Okay. Feel free to just look around. Do your virtual reality thing. There's a big planet out there. I hope that planet doesn't touch me. As long as nothing touches me, I'm fine. Now you guys developed this game as a demo to go with [UNKNOWN] Pursuit, okay. And then, so kick starter when are people planning on getting these, like right now this prototype has What, four, eight, 16? Yes, 16 channels. So it's 30 electrodes. Right. Spread around the body. And the .next version is double width. And the next version is triple width. Right, that was the prodigy version, right? Yes, yes. It has 52 or 56? Yes, yes, yes. So we've got a Kickstarter campaign. So we do our market penetration and research just to be [INAUDIBLE] feedback from the public to see how it goes, because it's a brand new product. Right. And there's nothing like that before. So, and the next session. So, basically, we packing this suit with a package of [INAUDIBLE] thread. [INAUDIBLE] supposed to be the game. [LAUGH] I picked up a health pack, and was like, health pack? It heals your back. It did heal my back. That was where the man shot me. And then of course, one of the things that we talked about last week was, we were both concerned about the price, but you guys had mentioned, as it scales up, obviously the price can come down. Yeah, yeah. Our aim is actually to make it $500 mark. For the whole suit. For consumer product. So it would be a [INAUDIBLE] system, and also it would be customizable. So basically you could add motion capture units, you could add extra climate control units. I see. So accessories that would change the way it's used for whatever use you would want to use it for. Yes, yes. So also if you'll recall [INAUDIBLE], so there would be games, there would be [INAUDIBLE] also virtual reality meetings. So you could load a beach or any virtual environment and actually meet inside in real time to see each other. Great. So this is one of the demos we have. Take nice long walks on the beach with a virtual loved one who's living overseas, maybe, or something like that. Yeah, and feel the breeze, feel the sunshine, the heat. So all the Interesting. All right. Now, has he killed everybody in this demo? Is there anybody left? If you shoot once, the [INAUDIBLE] will find you. I don't want him to though. I'm glad you said that. I'm too quiet I've been too stealthy. I'm glad you said to make himself known. Start shooting stuff so you get some friends I wanna see. Felt him. I felt him. I don't see him. Coming. I felt him. [BLANK_AUDIO] I like that you're leaning out. It's so great. I love virtual reality so much. Also, also, because it's Is the key for developers. Which is very simple to integrate into today's [INAUDIBLE]. Right now this [INAUDIBLE] what we do via all the developers. Everyone who's interested [INAUDIBLE] to join our community and Feedback. Yeah and to bring the spot from to actually to the global scale. To everywhere. Right, I understand. So we could make it affordable for everyone so- Great. And just to create the ready player one experience, the magic experience if you could call it anyway. So, but this is the future. It is, I definitely feel the laser beams. Do you feel like you're in the future? I mean, yeah. Wow. So I just walked up next to this I'm gonna This bar. This bar. Uh-huh. And I shot it. Yeah. And now I feel it. Yeah. In my tummy because it was so. Yeah like recoil because it's close. Yeah. Ooh interesting. These are the demo, so basically so you can feel, have a taste for it. Right. Of course, once we complete our kickstarter campaign, once we get funding, so we're going to polish it, to tune it up. And so, just to create the most immersive sensations. Great, well, like, Jeff, I think we're gonna wrap it up. But I hope you find this alien at some point before we Before we go. Yeah, I need to destroy him. But that's Pebble Suit everybody, if you're so inclined. It's quite an experience. Yeah Jeff, straight from the Jeff Canata himself. Yeah. Straight from the Jeff's mouth. He says it's quite an experience. I think for first person shooters, yes. Tickle simulators, big yes. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Yeah, no, I totally love it. Thank you so much. That was amazing. Thanks for coming, and letting us test it out. Amazing. Because we've been talking about What you guys have been doing for, let's see, a year and a half? I want to say a year and a half. Three years. Three years. And you guys have been working on it for three years. This has been quite a journey for you so thank you so much. I can only imagine the pants. Yeah. I'm going- If you add pants to this, I don't even know. That's the cherry on cake. Yeah. The cherry, that's one way of putting it for sure. [LAUGHS] You're switched. You're still in the game. I'm still in the game. All right. Can you get the shot? Yeah, I don't want- No, okay. Yeah, we don't want that. Thanks for protecting me. All right, thanks guys. Yeah, thank you so much. We will be right back. This is Tomorrow Daily. [MUSIC] I call that a true triumph of human spirit. That was one of the more interesting virtual reality experiences I've had, I'll tell you that. [LAUGH] I really enjoyed it. Yeah. So, from Tesla suit To another crowd funding effort, this is this week's Back It or Hack It. So again from virtual reality to something new, augmented reality, Yes. we are going to discuss Lifeprint this week. So Lifeprint I thought was very fascinating because I have thought about this before. Yeah. And I have seen versions of this. But not done- In Harry Potter movies? [LAUGH] Yeah, kind of. Yeah, totally. But I have not seen this done in a way that they're doing it which includes a photo printer. So, LifePrint, playing this video here, they are a company that is doing a crowdfund for their photo printer. So, there it is. That's a photo printer. And you can print out regular pictures. Yeah. Which is fine, it's a zinc printer. You don't need ink, all that stuff. Pretty cool. Shiny But yeah, that's the thing that makes it really cool. So hyper photos is what they're calling them and you can print out a picture. You can choose all your little Instagram filters, whatever. And then you can add a video to tag to these photos so that when you use the app you can actually see what the video is.>>Yeah it's like, almost like a. A sliver of the video, that when you give it to someone the app unlocks the whole video. Which is kind of cool Right exactly. Yeah it's like its basically a screen grab from a video, and then if you watch it with the app the picture comes to life. Yeah So awesome. Let's discuss how cool this is. It's literally like carrying around Harry Potter pictures with you all the time. Yeah I mean. Of course, the bummer is having to look at something through something else. Right, of course, like a magnifying glass. Yeah, and we've talked about that before. When we all have the implants in our eyeballs, or wearing the glasses, or whatever. When it's more integrated into our lives, I think this will even be cooler. You have the picture, which is Of value in and of itself. It's not like it's nothing. It's not like it's a QR code. That's the important thing to me. So you have a photo, and then to be able to add the layer of cool to the photo. The thing that I think they should have done in this video to make it even, I mean it looks neat when it's a skateboarding guy. But imagine sending a postcard to somebody, or your Christmas card or something with instructions on the back to download this app I'm gonna do that this year. The Christmas card is your family or whatever or you. And then you have an animated greeting when they get the, or some kind of cool like Valentine's day gift where it's like, hey girl. I just want you to know that they've actually thought of that because on the site, it says, And I really, I like and appreciate that they thought of this, they said "romantic pictures welcome." And this is a direct quote from the site. By the way, let's say you want to send your significant other a private romantic hybrid photo. So, the photo is you fully clothed. They've got your back. With Life Print, you can easily and privately share that real magic photo directly to your partner's printer for their viewing pleasure. Not that we know anything about that. I wasn't going there with that. I just thought it would be cute to have a nice A nice Valentine's day gift that you get that's like, I love you, and then when you look in the app, it's- It's a surprise! It's, I don't want it to be that much of a surprise- An unwelcome surprise. Not that surprise. We're not endorsing that kind of surprise here. I'm endorsing that kind of surprise, I'm gonna be honest. [LAUGHS] >.It would be hilarious. Like if my husband gave me that, I would just Get such a kick out of that. They're like, here's a picture of me clothed. Use the app. But, if you use the app- It's like one of those pens that your- [UNKNOWN]. The old, uncle would have, yeah. Yeah, yeah, totally. If I was a burlesque dancer I would give out business cards, and then if you use the app you watch some of my routine. Amazing! That would be cool. [CROSSTALK] Things that you could use that for. As long as you get people to download that app. There's a lot of cool things. Just have this one. And because they're so small they can be like a little calling card. Yeah. I think this is a really neat idea. When I first. First started thinking about it, I was like, it's kind of a gimmick. But the more I think about it, it could be really rad. I like, so the app, if you're wondering how you tell between which ones are augmented reality and which ones are not, they actually have a little watermark in the bottom corner. You can shut it off if you really want to. Too, but they have an LP for LifePrint and then you kinda know that it's a Living Picture. I kinda say LifePrint fine but you can also like LP is Living Picture. Okay. This one's alive. And you can do your app. Cuz the cynical part of me when I first started thinking about this is like Why would I just not email somebody the video if I wanted them to watch a video why would I not email Right But it's cool that it's a physical thing that you can hand to a person that turns into a video Something that lives yeah I really like that and I really like also their integration so what they are doing is They're basically saying we don't want you. We don't want to take away from, they're not trying to create a social network. They want to integrate into all of the social networks. So, they said we want to do vine videos. You're going to be able to print out and play a vine video, and you're going to be able to do Instagram videos and goPro videos directly into the app. You can import them right in and do all that stuff. They're Really fear live pictures from iPhone. Like they won't even do live pictures, so those quick little three second snippets. They're really interested in integrating into a bunch of social media networks, which I thought was really cool and I really like where they're going with it. I think this is a good idea. And the price isn't bad. So let's discuss price. They've, they have blown so far past their initial goal, that I could believe they are, 600 and, over 700% funded at this point. So they are well beyond. Wow. People are into this. People are really in to this, they've already ran like 200 and something thousand dollars. $129, is the [INAUDIBLE] special, that gets you. That's not too bad. The photo printer, the app, a charging cable and ten photos. So you get the little papers, the zinc paper, so you get ten of those, so you get ten prints. You can't just use any kind of photo paper. I think that they say that you can buy, like once the product actually comes out you'll be able to just buy paper, zinc paper. I had another quick thought about this. how it could be super cool is I'm really into geocaching. Yeah. And, if you had like a geocache that had a photo in it, and then you'd put your app in, and it was like a message from someone. That would be awesome. Amazing. That would be so cool. If your phone lit up when you hit that- Yeah. Like, within, say, a mile radius of that location, and then, all of a sudden, you have a message. That would be amazing. Yeah, that's Lifeprint. I think it's really cool, I'm really into it, I say back it. I think so. Honestly, I started out this segment thinking I was going not, I was going to say hack it. I thought it seemed a little silly, but we've talked me into it. I know. I feel really good about that. [LAUGH] And also I think it's cuz he want to send sexy time pictures. Well. To his wife. That's what it is. You know. Maybe one or two. There's a value there. There's a value there. Until she's like stop sending me sexy time pictures. Please, I have had it with these live pictures. They are not Safe for work, Jeff. [LAUGH] They're not! They start out that way. Call me in just like my boss, is very upset, wandering around the office with his own LifePrint app and saw some very appropriate things. [LAUGH] Okay, so, now that we're done with bag it or hag it- Yep. I think we gotta very quickly get an Into It and then we'll close out the show. So, let's talk about what we're into. Cool. [MUSIC] Jeff, what are you into this week? My into its tend to be in the board gaming realm. I'm a big hobby board gamer. You do love board games. I do, indeed. But, this is not actually a board game. This is something for my board game. I recently got as a gift, I got a custom insert for a board game. There's a lot of different places that do these, and the one I got happened to be from a place called Dataless Productions. What is a custom Some insert. So these European board games, these hobby board games, they're very intricate. They often have a lot of pieces and sometimes the set ups can be really time consuming because there's so many little pieces and fidley bits to put everywhere. These inserts allow you to pack the game in the box elegantly, but also start the game up really quickly. So the picture we're looking at right here is the one I got, which is for a game called the Hav. So all those pieces fit in a specific little slot. Instead of just having them in piles on the table which is sort of how the game instructions tell you to do it. I see. You can just pick one from the front. It's got a really cool laser etched image of what the item is on the front bottom there. See. I see [CROSSTALK] Very elegant and cool. Wow. The best part is that this comes as a set that is you know, comes a two flat and all laser cut from a piece of board. Uh-huh. And so, you put it together kinda like a lego. Yeah. I can see that the corner right there. Yeah, you use and all fits together and. Wow. You assemble it. So that in and of itself is like this fun Sunday project that I had sitting in front of the television, doing arts and crafts. And I never do arts and crafts. This is like a tiny cottage industry. It is. A niche industry for the board game crowd? Like it's also really Yeah, its a niche of a niche. Yeah, right, but this, it's cool. I like that they do this, because it Help you get started quickly. Yeah. And I know guys, full disclosure, I just played Settlers of Catan for the first time. You did, you're into the hobby games now. I totally love it, I'm really into it. But I understand after having to sort everything out and set it all up, Yep. I understand the value of this to anybody who plays board games a lot. Especially like, Lahav, like you were saying, you play that game a lot, Yep. its your favorite. so obviously you'd wanna be able to set that up very quickly. Yeah and it's cool part of the joy of board games for me is the physical nature of them. And just the having everything in its own little spot. There's a joy to that. I think so. Yeah. That's a good point. Okay so I'm gonna tell you what I'm into. Yes. I'm into a card game that is now an app, and is the most. Backed crowdfunded cards games of all time. My gosh. Crushed it. Exploding kittens has an app now. It just launched this morning. and it's really good. So, it's not just the card game, or like, hey, here's the rules or whatever. The app is, you have these little square versions of the cards, and there's new cards, and then on top of that You can actually play with people locally, you could have local multiplayer. So if everybody has the app, let's say you have four, three other friends with the app, you can say start game and they can join the game and the basically everybody plays together using their phone.>>That's great.>>Which is super, duper cool. It's IOS right now, but they already said we love you Android, we're working on it, it's going to be there. And for right now, I believe it's like two bucks to buy, which totally worth it. And then all in app purchases, I think for the next four days, are free. So there's, I think there's like an extra card pack or something right now, that you get for free. They might add some more stuff before the weekend's over. That's great. Yeah, super into it. I love exploding kittens. It's such a fun card game. I love Cards Against Humanity and that was my card game for awhile. But then after you really play it a lot Yeah. You know what the winning cards are. Exactly. You know your friends. Yeah. You know what the winning cards are. There's not really a whole lot of room for creativity at a certain point. Yeah. But yeah, Exploding Kittens, so much fun to play. It's great. It's even better when you play with more people, so I have the not safe for work deck as well as the standard deck- Right. And to play with nine people is fantastic. Do you know how many is the maximum of different In the app, you know how many you can link together? That I am not sure of because I have not run into more than one other person. [LAUGH] Well It just came out today so. But yeah I'm not sure, I wanna say it's maybe four people but it might be, maybe it's expandable I'm not sure. That's cool. We should try to get together a giant game of exploding kittens, that would be really fun. [UNKNOWN] That's what we're into this week. I'm obviously not into speaking correctly this week. But now we're- This week I'm just, I'm trying something new. I'm not speaking correctly. Yeah, not speaking properly at all. I'm speaking my own language. [LAUGH] But now it's time for our phonetographer of the day. [MUSIC] Our photographer of the day today is Taofiki. I like this one. But he says- Look at how cool that is. He goes by TE. So, he says hi, my name is Taofiki Gafar, but I go by TE. [LAUGH] There's a ellipses between the two. I shot these photos on my S6 edge+ bop phone for Samsung Pay and camera It has not disappointed. Love the show and keep it up. You have permission to use the photos. I couldn't decide which one was my favorite. This one was our favorite. Yeah. We went through it. He sent four and we picked this one. It looks like a tiny little village with a tiny little umbrella. It does. It reminds me of Fern Gully but in the grass. Not the rainforest. If honey I shrunk your kids, they would hang out underneath that umbrella right there. That would be a great place to get some sun, get some shade, relax. Maybe wrangle an ant. [UNKNOWN] little antie. That's where antie lives, underneath the, it's great. It's such a sharp, crisp picture. It's really. Hey if you guys wanna be our phonetographer of the day Send us your photos. You can do it to @tomorrowdaily on Twitter, that's where we are. You could if you wanted to send it on Twitter. It's better if you do it on email. Email it to us cuz I love, we all love your emails. Tomorrow@cnet.com. Tomorrow@cnet.com. And let us know what you took it on That it's okay for us to use it on the show. Important. And tell us a little story. We always like to find out why you took that picture and what it means to you. And if you don't have a good story, make one up. That's even better. I'm into fictional narratives about your picture. We like fantasy and sci-fi, so. Just make something up. That's totally fine with us. But don't make up giving us permission. We actually And we're also on social media if you want to find us. I am @AshleyEsquedo on Twitter. And I am @JeffCannata. And of course you can find producer Logan and all the other Tomorrow Daily places on social media down here in our beautiful credits section. That is it for this week's show. We will be back on Monday with a brand new docket of weird, wonderful science fact me Science fiction is like crashing together, blowing up in your face, in all the best ways. Love it. But until then, [INAUDIBLE] See you next time. Bye. [SOUND] [MUSIC]