GameSpot's The Lobby: How will we play No Man's Sky?
Okay, we are going to be talking about Nomad Sky, and Alex you wrote something that got a lot of us thinking.
Kind of exaggerating.
It didn't really- no I'm kidding.
Honey, why can't you sleep?
I just, I don't know.
Alex wrote this think piece and I don't know what to think of it.
Yeah, I actually just saw you reading it.
The only thing you said to me was, you've got a typo.
Let me fix that.
[LAUGH] Yeah, you spelled mechanic like mecknick.
I don't know.
If I recall.
Anyway, yeah, so No Mess Guy is out in, what, a week?
A week from today, yep.
[CROSSTALK] August 8th.
What is today?
Today is the second?
Yeah, it's the second.
It's almost here.
I'm supposed to be-
You're off to Europe.
Yeah, that's next week, yes.
But yeah, Yeah, so No Man's Sky we've talked about a lot.
But one of the looming questions is like always kind of what we'll be doing in it from minute to minute and we've kind of talked about that a few times.
There's an economy to it.
You'll be trying to improve your technology to reach the center of the universe after 30 or 40 something hours.
That one guy who bought it ahead of time, I think it took him 35.
I don't know if there's proof that he actually did it but
His word, Mike.
Yeah, his word.
You keep going sideways, now we're going to talk about the morality of No Man's Sky?
Basically, are you going to be good or bad?
There are choices, when I first found out that you could be a space pirate, hell yes, let me put a parrot on my shoulder and just zoom around the galaxy, hijacking people.
Do you want people's stuff?
Yeah, boarding the mainframe.
I'm trying to think of what futuristic pirates would be doing.
Would the parrot also be futuristic?
Yeah, he's robotic.
I feel much better about this whole thing.
I was worried for his wellbeing.
Pretty sure parrots can't live in space, though.
You know, it's a vacuum up there.
Basically [LAUGH] it's such a big universe right where the odds of us running into another person is what one in one hundred-thousand, which isn't that random.
It's way lower than that.
From the math I did, it could be different.
They could be doing some trickery to get people in with you but I do the math and to have a 1% chance of any two people being on the same planet you would have to have 300 million people playing at the same time.
So that's like miniscule chance.
There's not even 300 million people on earth,.
You're saying I should play the lotto, instead of try to find someone else in Nomad Sky?
I'm waiting for that one comment that actually thinks I was serious, someone thought I was serious when I thought the Eifel Tower was in Germany.
They insulted the American education system, I don't know where they're from.
Sense of humor.
But there are more than, I think there are more than 300 people in the world.
But with that big of a universe and this many plethora of ways that you could spend your time.
Is it gonna be like Grand Theft Auto where you're just using it as a power fantasy and kind of getting some inner rage out?
Or are you gonna be trying to actually preserve it and be a good person, like you might in Mass Effect, like the paragon route?
Right, and I think that probably one of the most interesting parts of this is that they say that the universe, to an extent, is gonna be permanent, so you can **** up a planet bad enough that it's saved to the server.
And like I really can't think of another game that is like that, that has a universe that persistent.
That is shared among many players.
Minecraft I mean you can also just make another server though, right?
Not if you believe in that one server.
You play minecraft as a one server dude.
Just, that's it.
Yeah because I still don't even understand fully.
I read how the algorithm works.
For them to create this universe.
I don't get how that's gonna work in retrospect and save everything.
But at what point do you actually just start caring about this universe when it's so massive, and how do you feel like you're making an impact?
And then, that was your question, if you don't feel like you're making an impact, why would you be good?
And if the only way you can make an impact is by Blowing up half a planet, then is that something that we wanna do?
No, I've expressed my intentions.
If I can create some sort of Death Star, I will.
In real life?
My maniacal intentions are getting megalomaniacal.
[INAUDIBLE] Yeah in the Space I'm just going to destroy.
Jupiter has been eyeing me lately [LAUGH] and I'm not having it.
It's the biggest planet I gotta take down its bullying everyone else I think its the biggest one.>>Yeah, yeah yeah.
It's not even in our solar system.
How many planets?
[LAUGH] People are going to actually think I don't know anything about anywhere.
But, yeah, what's to stop someone from just playing like Grand Theft Auto like I would and at a certain point how is it actually going to affect the universe.
There are so many unknowns in this game because it is so big.
It is hard to wrap our minds around.
It is a galaxy, right, not a universe.
Right, I mean like, it is a game.
It is fine for people to have fun and go blow stuff up, but I think the thing that makes this more complicated is There are creatures in this universe that only exist on like one in 100 million planets.
Each creature you come across is procedurally generated but there are levels of uniqueness and interest, there are more interesting characters than others, or creatures than others.
You will come across utopian civilizations maybe And what if a person rolls up to one these utopian civilizations and decides that it's eyeing him wrong?
and just blows it up.
We have it saved to the server.
Two things, how awesome would it be if you come across a planet with humans?
Similar intelligent, sentient life and B, how much would that affect your moral compass?
Cuz if I'm just gonna destroy this four legged thing and all of its family members and its planet, I don't care.
I'm a carnivore.
I'll eat it.
I'm not a vegetarian or a vegan in real life.
My character is gonna be a vegan space pirate in [UNKNOWN], so that's different.
You if you come across, how do you actually care about these animals?
It's like, a, they're just animals but also b, this is like, no one else in the world sees this animal except for you.
Chances are, I guess, again, how do you weigh the population of people, the number of people playing the game, with who's actually also seeing this?
Yeah, my personal thoughts on this is it'll probably be easier for me, personally
To preserve creature, or it'll be more likely that I'll preserve creatures who look like humans, who interact with me in a certain way that is human-like.
They're the biggest threat.
That is true.
[LAUGH] Yeah, take then down.
I would live if we got to the center of the universe and it just punished the people who were bad.
That's be awesome.
How do you plan on playing this game?
I like to think that I'll just be as well just going around, making sure, keeping track of things I see that are cool but I'm probably gonna end up blowing up space stations and rolling around as a space pilot.
Makes you pop.
What about you?
I really wanna do a lot of flight and exploration like in outer space.
I don't think I'll be able to do a lot of that, because I'm also reviewing this game.
There's a lot to do.
I'm terrified of reviewing this game, but yeah.
I guess I don't put too much stock into how I'm going to feel about the decisions I make in regards to affecting life or other people.
Well we'll see, maybe that'll shift.
I plan on like I said being bad.
Just gonna jump in it like San Andreas and kind of mess stuff up.
Which just begs the question like, how good do I think the rest of the universe is and how much punishment do I think it deserves?
From my standpoint.
From my solipsistic standpoint as a planet destroying vegan space pirate with a robotic parrot.
I've already got this all figured out.
You need a name.
What's the name?
The universe has original sin.
You have to punish it for its original sin.
Sorry, your name thing derailed me.
Captain Cyber Gym.
No, no, no, like-
No, no, I know.
He's gonna be ripped.
A ripped vegan space pirate.
How, there's so many unknowns to this game, again, it's huge, but how do we actually look at it, and how do we say, how do we affect this world when it's that big?
And I guess that's kind of effecting, because San Andreas and Los Santos are these actual, contained environments that you can see how you're, you don't really effect the world in Grand Theft Auto, but in Mass Effect There's a fair number of planets you can explore.
It's not this scope of no man's sky, but certain people won't make it to Mass Effect 3, certain people won't even make it through 2, how do you make those decisions?
Because it's a smaller cast, you actually care about them.
In this I just feel like I'm not gonna care about anybody because I know they might be expendable cuz there's not that much substance.
Again, I haven't played the game.
Very few people have.
But how's that gonna effect my decisions, I don't know.
It might all feel meaningless.
Yeah, and I think there's a strange balancing act there between what the developer's trying to do to make the world, the many, many worlds matter,
But also just the sheer immensity of the universe.
Like you guys were saying, how do you make this stuff matter?
Why would you ever care about one animal that you come across on a planet when there are an uncountable number of animals on other planets?
Yeah I mean the basic question is is any of this does any of this matter?
Does any of this matter?
How do you make a game that big and actually find meaning in it.
I think that is why I'm so curious about No Sky because like if I could explore the universe I probably wouldn't care about U2 No, I wouldn't blame you.
I'd be happy to see you go honestly.
Close friends are only like a matter of relativity.
The more you travel, the more you explore the less I'm going to text you guys and see how you're feeling unless I'm going to open up to you.
Is Snapchat still a thing?
Yeah, I'll snap, dude I'll snap all day [LAUGH].
I mean I mean, I don't have a name for the parrot yet, either, you're better at this.
There you go.
Jim and Groucho.
Captain CyberJim and Groucho.
It's gonna be a matter of, yeah, substance.
How do you find that in this world?
Is there substance to be found?
At a certain point, does the size of it kind of trump the meaning you find in it.
Do you guys care about getting to the front of the universe?
Maybe the game will make me care?
What I don't understand is like are you never interrupted by like an event that kind of like prods you to do one thing or another?
That is what I really want to know.
If this is just go do whatever, that's going to be super hard for me to feel like.
Great about continuing to do.
Because if I'm not working towards something, and if that something is only getting to the center of the galaxy, yikes.
Have you read anything about what the leaker has been saying?
Not really, I only looked at one of his game play clips.
It was about a half hour long.
And I clicked around it, and minute to minute he was doing the exact same thing, which is just pointing his laser at rocks.
He didn't spoil anything, but he did say that there is a little bit of that at least, that sort of direction.
And there has to be.
There has to be, right?
Well, the reason I want to play No Man's Sky is the same reason I played Skyrim for so long, is just exploring this world.
But even that, that was a contained world, a singular experience.
But there are stories Threads going through it, whereas it doesn't seem like that's gonna happen here.
The stories you find are the ones you create yourself.
Which is very appealing, well I don't know that.
That's how I'm taking it in right now.
It's just such a weird case, and I'm excited for it to release, just so we can know what the hell it is, and I come in and ask you about it because-
[INAUDIBLE] conversation on the Giant Bombcast.
Cuz it's like, that's what it boils down to.
We just wanna know what it is.
It's curiosity at this point.
If it's great, then
I maybe will be if it's not then I don't know it's just been, it's been hyped a lot because it's such a weird.
It could be a new benchmark for how things like this are created but how much is there going to be, longevity.
Reaching the center of the universe might be the goal but is it worth, Taken the time to get to.>> Yea and something I've been saying sense it was announced, If it was pernious in space and they positioned it as such, I would be totally into it.
But they've been hiking this game off and talking about it trying to put to rest the questions about his game plan stuff.
I think for one thing they will never to fulfill the expectations too.
And for another I think they've gone They've just stopped stressing the discovery aspect of it.
So, I don't know.
Well, anyway, this is officially, I think, the last time we're going to talk about No Man's Sky before it's out right?
Well, it comes out Tuesday, but I don't think reviews are going to be up then.
It's so doubtful.>> Yes.>>Okay likely when we get to talk to you about the side line I think this is the last time we have to fit nomads guide into it.
Which is nice.>> I feel like I really want to get into this theme like I need an outfit to wear when I'm playing it.
So I can be fibergines.>> A Snuggy.>>Oh like role playing I thought you ment something comfortable like a catheter and a Snuggy.>> Yea, no okay No.
Limes or no?
I'll have the option.
[UNKNOWN] wouldn't be super into limes.
If you're not, you're not even doing it right.
But anyway, yeah.
Holy crap, that is No Man's Sky.
Will you be good or bad?
Let us know in the comments below.
The game comes out next week finally, depending on when you're watching this video.
If you're watching it live then yeah, next week.
We'll talk about it more on the lobby when we finally get to review it.
Is Titanfall 2's single-player a worthy addition?
How does Battlefield 1 compare to past Battlefield games?
Top 6 new features in Battlefield 1
Duke Nukem 3D: 20th Anniversary - Raw Meat gameplay
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare graphics comparison
GameSpot's The Lobby: What games are left for 2016?
GameSpot's The Lobby: Does Modern Warfare hold up?
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered -- 'Shock and Awe' gameplay
NES Classic System impressions
Dishonored 2's Clockwork Mansion will astound and frustrate you