Ep. 68: Rumors and leaks, delays and disappointment

Samsung teases backs off and then -- -- again. Motorola's -- beat them to the new phone punch and new ways to run Android OS on everything. But Android phones I'm Antuan Goodwin alongside chest and it -- and this is Android atlas weekly. The show we talk about Android stuff. As the -- number 68 for October 12 2011. There's been a weird week since our last show immediately after we get off the air and we get some news -- like -- and then those like. Law and an -- like what's. In -- I was angry for a couple of days but I'm over it now you wanna know what's happening. -- -- wanna know is happening well -- -- -- accessed through the phone that I consider to be worthy of being my next. Device and actually -- plans and everything and accurate but -- -- on the day. Power of the galaxy nexus. Is what the next flagship phone for Android running -- -- -- which is rumored to be call Samsung galaxy nexus. Yeah I think we should say right here now. This is the phones -- you're gonna -- guests and a couple weeks to stop talking. -- will be renewed to read by now. Well I mean there there if that's a good time for. For -- to -- to be looking for a phone because I mean every carrier's data galaxy yet to. Hasty seas at some really flakes space -- -- coming out. And experts and -- brisk and sandwich is coming out and in Google is expressed that it wants this to be. Less fragmented so we hopefully we'll see pushed to more of these new phones. Let's talk about the -- details. Of the Samsung galaxy nexus or it was pleased to be called the was at the nexus prime with a part about the name and a second yet credit but it says it -- It did delete. And then there are conflicting. Latest reports of with what with the specs will be which is understandable -- to leak their rumors. But it's gonna be the -- injury report that -- ice cream sandwich experience. Witches. And so new TouchWiz -- Easy wireless apps or anything like that. Can. It's gonna have a dual core one point two gigahertz processor takes interest Texas Instruments -- A gig of ram 32 gigs of internal storage a five megapixel camera on the back and a front facing one point three megapixel camera. The former of those. A capable of recording 180. Ph.D. via. Then there'll sustaining Etsy uses. Google's going to be -- while -- thing that's gonna be in every phone from here on out. 1750. Millionth hour battery. Wi-Fi GPS Bluetooth all that's. And with interest in -- the bodies only nine Lear states -- Super -- -- curved glass served. Her which you know it's funny. I've had more conversations over the last week about whether this phone will be more or less marketable because its curved. The thought being if you put in your back pocket and -- -- sit on it umi in normal phone. -- -- her screaming cause to be more prone cracking. -- of this isn't the first curve sorry it was in the previous nexus only curves is gonna. Adam I'm not not late to the degree that the of the preview pictures of this one regret pursuing my MacBook -- currently -- -- looks like a -- I discount like that of the -- and have been influenced -- banana. The full moon. A -- greatest let's go buy it. -- -- -- -- -- -- interested in it and it was -- was announced yesterday announced yesterday in response to be talking about then streaming it live and -- real excited about it. But in in the wake of the tragedy that was. Steve Jobs -- that passing. Google and Samsung decided to postpone the event. Sending out press release. -- -- Basically they don't feel like it was a good time. To go announcing a phone where its -- so let's talk about that yet -- little my initial reaction -- that was like come. There do you believe this adults believe it. My thoughts are you know there hasn't stopped Apple from. Going head within pre orders and launch of the four X freight. Nobody else is stopping I really think there may have been some sort of we got some kinks we need to work out either with the phone or -- ice cream sandwich or even rumors have been pointing to patent issues. And this is a convenient excuse yet and they're just going like -- -- a good time and I feel like. Not only is that -- A little bit -- because you're capitalizing on the tragedy to union -- and an excuse mr. products are ready for prime time. But then also a -- it's disrespectful to everyone the morning. Just a bit. Yeah I mean it's hard to say because they didn't necessarily have to release sent the could have so if there were issues with that they could have just said -- -- Or an announcer -- in a demo -- We're not gonna actually make it available for purchase for another will -- -- that that was issued this is Wyatt and now switching the other side of -- What's items between two actually the son of excused myself what -- its battery talking about the opposite side of whatever -- -- on whatever I'm on yet so I'll I'll Monday the side the admitted -- -- clearly been some sort of issue -- they've they've. Cardiff publicly stated basically they are rushing this out to be the iPhone four arrests. It looks like -- they didn't beat them to the punch and be. May be some sort of -- during that rest is all speculation on my end but it seems like media in rushing to beat. That that self imposed deadline that maybe it wasn't ready for prime time and maybe they thought a little. You know. Maybe now's a good time to step back take a little bit of take an extra week or two and make sure that we have something that is worth showing. Saying here's my spectrum -- you that Nam. They delayed it because. The idea of this incredible phone. Is always gonna be better than the actual phone and that is what is was condoned delay. You know people who were waiting purchasing an iPhone four -- his. If they had announced it on the eleventh -- -- before the iPhone four -- actually came out you. Com and people have been like and it's not quite specs I want -- -- the back -- -- -- now. -- and just like him its interest in all the rumors I've heard this phones could be amazing and it's washed my dishes and a New York steadying. The term everyone. What -- -- that people who are on the fence about you know who aren't -- aren't. Unit -- aren't injured people are instead of standard parent IOS beavers they have -- the people in the middle right. -- Around it's a decent chunk of people it's. I mean I would say that you're also undecided voters will Leo and -- thing is in that that massive. You know there's a -- -- Acolytes -- and I Android and then there's like and each of the cult of Mac. I think I -- point acolytes of interest and -- like that but. I think you know that that -- middle crowd. You know that that that larger percentage. That. The chocolate bill -- at and decided -- think you know even if if you look deeper into that most of the people are oblivious to all of this. Like big -- A majority of the American population. They heard of the iPhone lines. On Twitter for hours after the factor on their local news. And in -- home in the whole concept of Blake. This does secret bonus coming in -- going to be that in the next big thing most people even know about stuff like this until the day after it launches so we -- -- -- local CBS -- -- and. Aren't they don't totally disagrees you but I will say that the prime has been making waves in the tech community rate like everyone that I know him is ready to buy a new -- has been talking about the crime and talking about the iPhone four ass. And Lanier has been talking about the -- five. There shouldn't -- five originally for -- now. Yet but -- here's my thing is especially after coming off of a year of people going. -- -- could come out and then basically being liked the blitz of these sort of leg -- tech to. -- -- this this. Halo injury -- an analyst -- come along contained everything took almost nine months to come out you really wanna start off. It delays but before you even announced the phone you're -- is starting up yes -- -- time to announce it will. We don't have another date it's not even like you know were ready. We're gonna give this whole Steve Jobs -- a week. And you'll come back once it went had a moment processes dislike that we. We're just gonna cancel the event and we'll get back to -- under the N -- is cleared. And we don't even know for sure. Right this is all rumors that they were gonna announce the prime. Mean look at the pictures. -- Atlanta and auditing firm on the week before let's talk about like the that the rumors so like in addition to all of the -- there was an -- developer's official YouTube channel. That leaked. Accidentally like a place holder -- for streaming what's called the -- -- announcement advancement and I -- think it's so Google's basically. Almost in so many words said yes. It's gonna be schemes in which announced there are -- there worst kept secret. We know it was gonna come out Samsung has been a little late getting -- nexus. I -- or whatever like trademarks and -- been going through the FCC. For Bluetooth and -- -- of the keys in windows phones coming so adult tickets. And beat me -- which -- stated they were gonna announced it. It elite probably -- that -- just saying it's not different of that we -- we'll -- -- -- -- the next story. Eric so we keep on the nexus prions are what are we keep coronet would slow it and called nexus crime is what we were calling it last week -- This week. I think the that the leaks point to the phone being named. The galaxy nexus Samsung galaxy now. Axis spread so there -- photos posted on -- costs and you know by. The -- authorities someone you know they're looked at the exit data which is like the meta data stored in photos -- com and found these pictures. And the camera was listed says. Com camera Samsung model -- -- nexus. -- to users who posted them were both school employees one works for. It's. Has an AdSense TV and the others -- on the underdevelopment -- Does -- really happy. While. They were -- Google's I think that's all it takes. Viewer to dual vitamin. Cafeteria cool. -- cafeteria Google didn't agree kept -- at Google yes multiple. After entities -- -- anyway so Samsung galaxy nexus is I guess what we should say from here on out rights. Weird name -- the prime better. Annual. Mean both to Wednesday are gonna say primetime and all of the -- hammer -- -- all -- care if that's the code now. One of when the -- they -- argument they is that. The new rumor is that of the nexus Fran. Galaxy nexus will just call it Samsung galaxy nexus -- and repent from here -- -- It's actually gonna be released on November 3 -- an inside source at Verizon who's rumored to be the exclusive. -- premier carrier of this device. So. I mean that's not a very. The long turnaround I think I would assume they -- Nelson device before then so mean we should be hearing some things -- -- -- they also say that com. The in normally Verizon likes to announce that very close to when they release that even accept the buyout. Oh -- it. Ahead of me that may have actually been a learning experience for them you know we joke about it the delays that. I mean they may eventually let Andy -- recent -- just. Not talk about it to were ready to hit you hit the market when it. For uterus today and that's -- that Apple is typically done well for religiously He had for the awesome device. Yet in order today. -- Arthur it's good strategy. Around so I -- -- it's not available today. That there are some details about the apps that are in rent you a needle teeth -- -- if you zealots who. Little you might type into it yet basically the revised version. The Google plays out none version number two dot -- And the Google music app -- believe version enough for -- Which are. Chunks of the ice cream user experience. Have been leaked so the music -- has that sort of visual look of -- -- sort of trying to you look. That the as -- it's -- -- to have it's got a revised interface that I've actually been using all week. Weekend. And it's it's a big step up from where the Google music data into the streaming app. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And OO years -- years in the app the app you know -- -- the the music for putting got a -- K and the Google plants that suited to data -- -- -- so -- actually install W can just download them off the Internet. That's the thing an injury discount modular like that -- can just get. For example the the new music -- Without updating -- -- -- Iran Muni map your route to do it. It also kind of -- crazy new boot sequence yet yes those which has. Kind of like there's a video at the bottom of that this story. Com. And it and hours -- -- at around -- nine seconds clear policies and of this rain blow. Coli without -- were not as scrap -- infants and com -- in scenes plans -- were. So I don't know if that is it gonna be distaste standard Ani cursor area -- examines boot sequence or at specific to Samsung is does have a nexus but. And that article what I think is interesting is the guy and you -- the -- -- implicated in two and three thing -- that Verizon and union that. What I think interest thing about Google plus. Is that -- has been renamed again. So mean Google has been out for painful month came out when you use it on your phone there was this sort of a group messaging service huddles. I was kind -- a combination of SMS and chat rooms and and and in just general sort of I am. And a couple of months after you know -- don't -- -- a month after came out they decided that you know they'd renamed it messenger because and made more sense. And -- now it looks like in that two data version of the app that it's gonna be renamed -- -- -- A name that didn't really make sense but kinda. To -- -- that makes perfect sense to. Health courts means. -- -- think it's kind of interesting that He can't really get that part of the Google plus experience on the handset down. -- I wish I could say more Reppas but it still honorees who plus you hadn't known -- -- keep people can add you to their circle that can't tissue -- to be encircled. -- do but I can't you put people in your circle. But I can't. Once -- -- the Google still doesn't. Allow arms again and other and it refused or didn't you -- it -- and decision joining Google bus well. It on the school -- the moment it's only been a little while also do we want as we talked about the November 3 to eight to unit mention the RAZR -- all. -- if I'm interest and okay and to mention. It's been mentioned -- basically. Motorola in Britain put out -- sort of invitation to an October 8 event. -- called a faster -- smarter stronger eighteenth. October the scene of -- artillery as a liberal and and -- -- -- the things. That's like a little different -- and completeness stating but it falls underneath the -- umbrella it's in the wheel house if you. In -- but -- faster thinner smarter stronger. We're not really sure what they're gonna announce but images of but it's gonna be awesome. Yes going to be a rocket in an eyeball. And Saturn apparently in a reasonably and there's a reasonably Netflix or so -- -- -- the Motorola as you know been buying up. You -- domain names. And in making strides towards a phone that we think it's gonna be called the Droid -- bringing back the Motorola. -- -- nameplate from their a line of popular flip phones. Phone could also be -- call the free HD nobody really knows I would submit that the -- may also be the announcement the -- to. Which is also supposed to be more powerful thinner and better then the -- one. And it isn't be called the RAZR when you see in that video which is an official video right that they release He. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Reasons but -- raisers are also raisers. -- and and a I understand I really hope it's called the hurried reader is I've always thought that was -- finding out they don't keep -- net hole. Meaning beings for later ms. spellings. Temple. And that other wherever -- move and agreed to -- Our -- runs through five new phones that AT&T has announced. Or take a break here's a CTA if you don't know is going on right now and that's where the originally the prime. Sorry it mixes. Samsung hammer pants and you should think this -- Cingular Phoenix's prime hammer pants yes it was supposed to be released. -- But it -- wasn't released but AT&T did announce five phones to run through quickly here Motorola -- -- -- which we talked about. A bunch but for now it's 5% and I mean it's compatible with the latest laptop -- that known terrorism. And its -- and -- Samsung captivate -- -- slider phone you know which has you know reasonable suspects. -- court speaker its own four G. What -- about -- To be compatible with -- it's when He when many of the India. Brecht says -- There's -- -- keyboard this is a good one for you. Then they have a lot of lower end phones -- Simpson double time. Was excellent -- the phone million -- and -- that's not far off. -- -- -- have when the news sort of screen on the outside flip -- open their secret keyboard on the inside. The -- their claims he'll leave. It's pretty under powered phone yet. Internet 2.2 not 2.3 -- messenger phone for people who kinda want apps aren't you expect something like this to be free. Com the Pentax pocket which also -- kind of alone phone but has a bizarre design gives us an odd form factor that's almost. Square -- -- short. And it's like there should be a full QWERTY keyboard below it in the in the just -- -- -- off. -- So PLO inspects. You know it both those phones have a low -- then. It probably will work at all okay and then the AT&T -- Made by AZT EU -- first round -- ET we've talked atoms so. Com and it is -- second enter a device released -- AT&T under their prepaid plan. So again not great specs but it does come gingerbread it's not something yet -- -- tentative evidence five megapixel camera. I don't. And any time they start seeing seven home screens one of their like top ten bullet points yeah you know you're nearly expecting a lot. From this phone so -- only when we do a person on is the matrix to which is available October 16 for 9919. Million homes -- -- can meet the most expensive phone on the west. Probably everything else He should expect to luckiest at three -- so nothing exciting there but you know what is exciting. Although about -- good. We're gonna use the bathroom when we come back or apartment I can run Android on everything from your -- or two you're. That TV. None of those accurate. But -- -- Back we are just -- We talked about it -- funny reminds me -- two predictions last year -- we -- we did and I think that I predicted. You'd see injured run in -- -- test. We're have to go back to check the value it does -- morally and -- here at the most Hollywood of our first bits is an immunity be the first when you win. -- second when adding hundreds. Actually Jason also sent in his. Predictions yeah so what what sect that back. I bring it up because now our -- talk about. Infrared running on some unlikely devices. Which tells but the first -- The first one actually is -- windows PC. A new sort of -- injury emulator. Software -- call blues acts. Justice and announced. -- you can checkout and download and it's basically. An alpha version of what -- to be Indian trading later. They're basically saying that it comes with -- preloaded apps. You -- to 26 other apps you can see Alice from an injury -- to the PC. And it. Looks pretty interesting. And I -- not like them. They get immediately announced that good music to the an injury doesn't -- nearly as as cool as the instinct LME's -- If the suit -- -- in the world earlier this -- never heard. Begin this kind of interest -- because you know we're starting to see inquiry run on more things. You know there's sort of the the rumor of a Blackberry devices running injury depth. Now the sort of -- stats allowing you to potentially run. -- it or actually run -- -- -- your PC means that it comes just that much easier to. Making -- useful. Cross platform -- -- and like. If you want to develop for example with it for ninja. There's a UK and if it it makes it more compelling for developers to look at doing the Android -- -- Or even putting -- -- it is key to making an Internet early on because you're not just skating. Brazilian injury -- users a potential users but then you know -- users can also. User PC. Few things on a bigger screen. It's interesting to -- -- -- think it's -- stated it's pretty cool. It's a little hard it looks like to get some of the apps on to. Whose tax damme like they do you have -- little App -- -- to get some of them it's a mere click sync your phone or computer to get them on their. Now imagine some of them won't run perfectly. Yet. Related but think touch is a little weird with amounts. Yet yet. You literally just my experience from certain mobile web sites that are developed from -- with the sort of touch paradigm. And you try to use them you -- -- reason on your browser Internet use -- your PC and justice or your Mac. And things to -- weird when you start from the drank -- -- -- is next alignment. Is probably something. Known ever that it's -- -- This is entering apps running on an iPad. So. Z -- -- the myriad add group. Released this. Thing that lets you sort of package EPA's dietary and -- it. Apps packages. Four different OS's and they have initially unveiled this for -- Migo OS. Which I think that the Linux based Owens. Anyway. -- can do -- any -- but they also -- our demo -- I think this week at CTA. This sort of technology running on an iPad. -- you can actually I think create an app to run Lander it's not totally clear to me how you actually get it on there and the developer would have to sort of do it enhancements -- App Store or. Because it is kind of like a player like the blues tech players -- -- packages download individually. The player that you downloaded from App Store -- that. It's just kind of crazy and I think there are look team to bring. The sort of technology to a bunch of different platforms beyond that -- Enter things and serve them. The opposite of rotation. Or dislike instead of reverse bringing -- -- -- enrichment if its its. Kuwait deletion would stop -- that at and yet committed the question is do you really want. For -- -- for -- -- maybe it makes sense has fallen out tons of apps like there are handwritten. For IOS to read to you really care I OS I don't know if you care. Unless you just. Really. Like our resident sort of poll we don't want you buying -- anywhere else. That could be an issue because of the in -- it. Of course Apple would -- of the -- -- errors in the don't want people buying. You know for example as a navigation app from the injury. App Store in the in courting it over their iPad in the can buy it -- dollar and having -- -- as a consumer away and the consumer yeah but the units of it from -- times you know that needs to look out or consumers yet. I just think it's not gonna be about snow likening him to say -- with a -- isn't available -- OS is only available -- -- you don't find that that often aren't intended and sometimes you do. If you -- important cool -- Navigation. Two I must have equal aren't yet that would be cool because that's one of the majors in business. -- -- -- -- -- -- He heard of -- you know is that it's a tablet. Com so this is tablet from Amazon that we've talked about -- Linksys don't know about it then listens the last comes. Anyway like any good enter a device it's been sued for patent infringement. Or aim -- It's. Being sued by a -- Expedia. -- Expedia research. Seen by many as a patent troll. And I -- that the patents that they -- The descriptions of them around so. One patent 6956562. Is patent. Is a method -- -- -- touch screen to enter commands on a handheld computer. We've been over -- -- that somebody else owned a patent for using the touch screen I He would think so. I think I've gotta -- around area. Another one relates to a method for storing calendars on a PDA -- -- initially issued to pawn in 2002. I'm but I guess at some point was purchased her license but I He would -- -- -- -- -- -- In the fifth patent named in the suit target Amazon. Can -- three G plus Wi-Fi -- I'm serious it's not -- all four is the the fire com saying no this is sort of par for the course rate for. Any -- -- that has come out teams. An assailant on any advice that comes out you can't get to you gotta get sued did you read past the yeah in the world you don't -- -- who has an interest in. Many business and in there it's a good I don't want this -- there's nothing worth having the veto gives you you're basically -- need to plastic. Aren't hurting -- to for instance that's how we will evaluate all future. Integrated. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- experts throughout November 15 for one minute. And that's always got for news -- Is only happening but wait there's more there is always more. App of the week time. -- You know it's interesting my app of the week. -- -- -- admission is like two weeks it would committee came out because I was super excited about it and it's all of that period to lead the flicker app. Of the official Flickr app for Android. I have been kind of warning -- official Flickr app since I got my -- one. Because I've been pretty huge and then an average avid Flickr user written. And there's never really been an official way to us to do it there have been some weird third party apps that don't always work as promised there has been. In a sometimes things -- -- please will have an ability to upload to laugh. Flickr appear within them you know what really did -- wells are in Europe rapidly -- Each TC built a -- yet read the New England since the spear from a in -- depth and moderate and I enlightening human. I think it -- agree it's pretty well but I was a -- as well so tell us all the -- this it's involved. So the new Flickr. Flickr app basically allows you to view your photos screens -- photos stream. And -- your friends' photos. Make comments on them. You can up lewd photos from your gallery. Two and tag them I get the names. Dual you're sharing to FaceBook Twitter Tumblr and whatnot. And then you can also -- snap photos from within the -- With a collection of built and use of a collection of built in sort of instant -- filters. It's actually pretty easy to use and if you are -- you know if you of the kind of person -- is gonna be -- a lot of your photos to Flickr for sharing kind of a no brainer. I think it's -- And it's free. It's pretty awesome. If they were just update -- whats it gonna be real happy with Flickr the flicker website -- and Zelda and there's been no development and I don't know how -- candidate did some things. It's like small changes. Our big big sweeping changes and the with the U look at pictures -- But you planning to do well not subject for another show is -- Are correct it's -- -- email. Us that we had challenged the talents or request. Which I never expected to get it responses from but we said hey is there -- listen to us for Korea that turns out there's at least two people. So. Let's -- the first is Jeremy. Said what's up says. Does it did you cracked -- -- in your army you know we decided not. And -- enjoy your show. And yes eleven Korean listen to your show weekly but fortunately I don't have an L chief -- mentioned that it's currently no. You -- at least one listener from Korea has influence said Samsung has kicked him and asked these days and in Korea a -- -- her release He galaxy S ones and S -- everywhere even old school rock the -- yes. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Literally lit to release early every -- -- you have nobody. -- rating in. -- people -- in the galaxy S I know you send us pictures. Or didn't -- He entered in. A second email from South Korea hi guys and -- watching -- show the first time in. Even got a requests email you and that's from Bob in South Korea. Says he'll likely need to make another request this week -- -- mostly to another country yet do country are doing to simulate if -- in to Moines Iowa. Little -- split the -- in Iowa the state Iowa here right. Iowa we wanna hear from you -- there. Sent us a picture of. -- and it. Org or foreign minister picture of you holding up a and leave the injured -- -- And you -- something -- No there's ES or one that we would via or -- Pick one of my hand monetary figurines who are -- So you have how they and peruse at their Iowa. As well RC cornfields. There cornfields everywhere it aren't pulled up -- newspaper that says like you know. Iowa and -- I don't know it. If we haven't insulted you too -- already. The yet there's talents failure congress of the country lately -- prices well. Next week -- -- -- next week to see if your state or country is picked. Let's go to one more email this is -- -- Attack -- on will and I don't really attacking but it trying to be helpful. This is Lewis from Columbia. To loosen Columbus, Georgia. Columbus to -- -- there while. Israeli atlas podcasters I'm reading an -- that was reading about an -- that was -- miss an episode 65 it was sent from Bob from -- He basically asked if there's any way to -- apps from his OG Droid to a new three device and not be -- You guys answered no but I think you actually can do without being greeted -- -- you need to from the task and goes on to mention. The He did it if the technique for using Astro file manager. To back -- the apps. You just hope that help slow the show and a He does elected were funny. Then the bitter freeze the last bit of that. And that's debatable but I don't treatment and -- -- have figured right. And et -- admit that if that I kind of -- dean told a forest and the response back so I apologize for basically saying the same thing -- did. But basically -- -- kind of agree that. -- through file manager does work to back up apps. And -- Lewis mentioned in his email and read that but and an advantage in the last time I brought up -- episode 54. The thing about Astro file manager is that the reason it doesn't require route is because it does it back up the data as well. I when Bob from Philly route in an emphasis -- if I if He wanted to specifically -- is Angry Birds stars. Now using the method that pastoral value -- -- for backing out. I you'll keeping -- that -- -- and it basically pulls daddy PK file. And archives it -- to be re installed the reason that apps need root access. In order to hold the data. Is because the secure data is often story in like in different sort of directory that has. Different permissions. From where the application the -- -- data stored in -- -- so without that root access. The gaps -- don't have permission to reached this the end the the the the data. The -- there and so if if -- -- Say is that it backs up your apps in it doesn't requiring access. To desired the advice that I gave on episode 54 in the email. Will still apply -- it. But yet that thinks parading in Lewis I appreciate you -- and help. Your rate memory girls little. -- -- Grow and be happy Hamlet little -- in Columbus -- And by being Columbus during. Also met my first chicken emit your personally an up close -- -- -- in an analyst teeth that -- of the -- as just chasing it around. And then they turn on you. And -- at some point they just get tired of him it's like a Korean halftime and just like turning to -- enough enough that's when -- for dinner. No -- here. Actually it was a -- time. Priorities -- actually let's wrap up this pseudo. So you've lost -- -- that list He can watch every week. 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