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Ep. 1404: HP For the Win!The HP Veer, Pre3 and TouchPad showcase WebOS in all threes sizes and we like! Smartphones pass PCs in sales, and while smartphones take over the world, OnLive is going to be streaming games to you on your phone. Kent German and Antuan Goodwin guest host...
And it's Wednesday February night. When -- eleven. -- -- -- -- -- I'm determined. And I'm Antuan Goodwin and gets -- I'm Brian's song -- -- -- cnet's podcast -- indeterminate -- episode 1404. Here the -- meet senior editor Kent German emperor I guess is that Smartphones and mobile devices -- what's the official. Mostly to sell every bit key -- concludes though that and it doesn't start until Marlins settle old -- -- does this -- I could -- remote island be very happy and they call it continental -- -- -- -- Mobile devices are right. -- -- -- -- And also associate editor Antuan Goodwin. Yet -- their backyard take GPS and unofficially injury now yeah -- sell one -- -- -- of Android Alice. You might recognize him from such as. And you might recognize him from such as as -- album are right so they -- join us. Obviously -- the big news here today HP's announcements and essentially the unveiling of the new DNA. In their company web OS and all their devices we've seen. When we talk about products that we like we've seen a lot of price that we like -- kind of run down them quickly some of the stats and talk about the in the first outcome of the big one that everyone's between four. The HP touch pad. It's official it's gonna be. One point six or one point 51 point six pounds and nine point -- display at -- report by seventy which is very much like the iPad the design. Very much like the iPad but the hottest thing obviously is the webos on it and deep down inside they're talking about one point two. Gigahertz dual core processors beats audio technology video calling and one point three megapixel webcam. There's little there's a lot of good stuff here -- -- That's pretty exciting actually I'm very impressed yeah also other stats here Wi-Fi 80211 BG NN. Bluetooth sixteen -- 32 gigs of storage when you go on and on I'd gyroscope excel from her company is that they're they're not doing skinny on this thing. So that they're pushing really hard in a right now at the moment. They're. For those -- -- -- -- live HP is doing the live event on their -- -- -- of the features of the level as we've seen kind of now what used to be their deck of cards from multitasking. Like Benito -- sheets of paper -- because you know we're on a tablet now we -- Newport. And it's -- cards but definitely definitely bigger than card so touchpad. Awesome another competitive -- no price seen as of yet on soon be available sometime this year but I'm all the parts that were going to be talking about. -- are sorry -- with donated. HP. Has not announced I like I think I like Hewlett -- that was opinions you regularly call it XP. I it is though it isolates the one thing that -- we've noticed in the keynote. Palm is. Officially dead. HP acquired them but there is no mention. Of palm whatsoever and you know for good reason there shouldn't be this is the next generation of what HP is doing a mobile devices so gonna kind of quickly also go through the next one their. -- was or I guess. Was the flagship phone for palm the pre. Each piece pre three the little is that cute in foreign it would be few groups that the Earth's atmosphere they -- evidence to get up there and it. Yeah I mean you gotta bring something in -- -- something -- flavor of the game and it on its gonna have their largest QWERTY keyboard on a phone. Up to this point how the gesture area much like the original -- -- -- to three point six inch screen. With the 480 by 800 WV GA display five megapixel camera. Each dvd ill also forward facing camera on the pre. -- -- -- But. Another hot looking. On it's that of the largest keyboard and their claim -- interest in because they said -- right not to Fuller four I think for free devices. Outlook on a -- -- as as the center really get that thing and you're gonna say that ever -- mean. That it's it's tricky thing about with a found same as the biggest for the smallest of the interests of sites related is that it's gonna change that you know in the next month to someone else will. But when you can make the claim -- size does matter it's all right. Speaking of size. And yeah and funded the effort if you all know -- Lead into the third device they they were released in being the -- in thing is super small -- in his hand and one of the factories that standing in front of the keyboard and I mean it. Really look like an accessory or another device. Do you remember the was at the Motorola pebble. -- got a really small phone I'm wondering if it's kind of along those lines of size like this because of the previous three point six inch screen kind of more of a mid -- -- -- This is probably somewhere in that -- -- as a two point six inch screen I believe that some well we -- gonna run an 800 megahertz processor a little slower it's not gonna be the baathist. Of on the phones but they're really trying to show web OS in three different sizes as two point six has. He Somalia -- I'm I'm if I here I'm -- touch screens I really expect sort of at least 3.5 and lot of cases and so that's that's a big -- but. Made it that position in his budgets that I sort of like the pixie like this is an entry level device that's. Smaller I think if only I -- look up -- like. You know people are getting tablets and phones now some people don't need a big screen on the phone and my because it. -- absolutely so they're like hey get a -- attack and get heavier so. On the two point six inch screen with the gesture area much like the pre line has always -- had in their design supports and all these devices across the board using the webos. But -- is gonna be supporting flash. It's built in GPS on all the devices as well on the -- specifically has -- pixel camera. Support for its AH as PA plus. It did not say this specific phone. Sports EV DO bomb which would -- ST DMA technology which of the pre Q does. So it it also come with a piece of storage. On same memory is a previous pre and like we said earlier at 850 maker -- 800 megahertz processor so across the board of web the last. I know -- of great devices and I'm impressed. Yet that a critical I'm impressed and it's really nice to see this thing webos we really liked it when it came out. Came out to create Deming kind of just count the -- and these -- the devices that really didn't. Built on a very well and and -- that long break. Where they decide what it was when you guys doing need to really commence it's nice to see that -- they have these things that they're gonna make -- -- effort. There's a lot I mean there's been a lot of pent up demand ever since we -- -- have a flavor of what level -- was on a pre and then every you know everyone's kind of discipline and how it. -- -- the wayside when the phones that came -- but now I feel like this the man has been rewarded for people who. Have been basically. Salvage and drooling for this attack since the asinine yet. I mean really like to see it come to fruition on devices that all -- -- industry and unanimously like this is cool stuff. So them could -- them I mean you know we -- -- tech here so we just hope that noble will wait for the prices. That's that's so we need -- the OK so humble you know if any other earth shattering news come out from the HP event and on -- -- webos products. Will will let you guys know that in other news also. This kind of quality yesterday. Regarding Nokia. And kind of an internal memo they had just kind of address seen. What how the state this theater company Nokia's CEO Stephen you -- there they're doing like an announcement decently this week. Yes what's going -- with Nokia and this has been a very couple weeks and weeks and there are growing in a mobile congress -- that -- X. So function next week in Barcelona and -- can easily as a fairly big presence there. But Friday in -- there's there's CEO who's pretty new Stephen -- he came over from. Microsoft. He is -- name analyst call and where -- what they're gonna do is they're gonna outlet they lay out their new Smartphone strategy. And it's been a lot of debate about what that's gonna be and he -- the and -- read this memo that was pretty skating and just said kind of whatever whatever on -- new program for long time it. Nokia's huge they haven't been marketshare they sell all these devices and and budget -- entry -- devices in. And -- markets but we really need to. Do something different and really amounts are Smartphone strategy it's been just it's been gone we have good devices. But people are just going way past an Android Apple. -- -- They're setting the stage now for the Smartphone should be and -- -- Tina. So you know you've obviously followed Nokia quite awhile if there wasn't an OS you know everyone's -- about what -- -- with the potentially pick up and integrate into their harder because like we said time and time again they've made great hardware down on and they've done other great things but it has fallen behind the curve. You know what what would -- be for you. In your well I -- a blog last Friday were actually laid out a few of the examples that they can go with one -- -- which is the LS they're developing and we don't know a lot about -- -- yet. We have really -- devices on it they they keep canceling devices. They could -- -- go for Android. I think that's unlikely that the deputy assistant -- in the past. It's -- go from windows phone seven which -- been a few rumors around or they just pursue more than one last and I put upon -- -- in our 884 votes and 39% which is the largest said people should go -- that they should -- me go for windows phone seven. The alma according to Reuters yesterday they had unnamed sources that confirmed that Nokia is -- The next -- offer platform and you know even eat lots of like it's. The you know by the time we release a phone ready -- to be like and of 2001 like we're behind that we need to changes -- -- that this takes way too and we know how fast the Smartphone business months ago. We just -- there's such a fascinating case has Stephen -- on when he went to Nokia robust -- year he wrote his lead on the story of its eye toy agreement with. For a company that's so big and has such presence insists that's in the mobile and stream they're fighting for their life and -- -- at the paradox why. How Nokia got to this point but how's everyone still knows from Nokia is and what they do. And they need it you know the good thing that people still who'd knew that they are -- to leverage that and come out we know with our products that support the brand equity that they still have be. Before before that on -- Excellent our -- On a Friday we will we will -- I'm also in -- -- the Smartphone world and an interest keepers. And Nokia you know is a big part of this Smartphones. Have surpassed. He sees in sales this is according to international -- -- -- that shows the final quarter 2010. Smartphone surpassing -- PC shipments more people are are purchasing Smartphones of 100 million. Units of Smartphones -- -- 92 million units of PC numbers -- you think. That's pretty impressive it within I think you have to ask the question of you know where these people wondering why why why does this happen I mean is it because. In you don't need to of creature PC every year anymore I mean have as if this development complex -- where. The computer you bought two years ago is actually still good enough to do most of the web based stuff that people do today. Of -- is worth the new Smartphones coming out you know every couple of months that's -- it's an easier impulse purchase. I mean just -- the fact -- not really locked into a contract when you buy your PC. Think you know there's a lot more a number of more people who don't have Smartphones. Can make that jump. From a feature phone to a Smartphone birth of people who don't have a computer or who would be upgrading computer that the it's easy to see how that could -- yet -- people replace their phones to again. And and the point they make does that. The replace the -- -- and also -- honestly we all know the Smartphones the functionality that they have now are replacing or even that alone is replacing what you do on a laptop right you know so it's it's both of those factors combined so. On that they had you know kind of projections. Of what. People might have predicted. -- Morgan Stanley's analysts predicted that okay and may be the point. Where Smartphones overtake PCs total PC sales would be in 2012. Or -- the beginning of 2011 and it was like -- later end of 2012 so. I'm just. It's an industry first -- -- showing how things are changing any tablets are gonna start taking its. I gotta that is well -- those buying dollars spurred you know standalone laptops and desktop computers and -- -- -- think you'll start to see a little bit even more of this kind of moved from. Mean you know why -- if I'm only gonna spent X number hours at home to a really. In -- don't wanna take my computing experience with me and if more people he used to in the price on telescope is down. You can see even more of that. Third shift. Our guys -- and also penetrated Xena how Smartphones are -- are taking over the world basically. On lives at the computer video game streaming service that we've -- do -- -- -- talked about. Constantly has raised forty million dollars from HTC. One of the fastest growing make the Smartphones you might recognize them from such phones as the HTC evo orgy. And many others this is essentially. -- this -- and through this -- was -- that they will be able to stream. There are server based games where -- all of the in -- in all the although powerhouse of the game is done on their servers streamed through an Internet connection to the phones they say that you'll be able to play. The but the games they currently have an online service on something like an -- evo orgy. The capability is there even do it today they haven't -- that switch off them but you could do that. Xbox. Quality gaining on any I don't know life without. Well they have no you got the and that's what they're saying they have assassin's creed on their service. They have that millions are gonna sound they're they're saying that they could -- stream back in nine knots in the controls. I ain't the only things that they scares me about this is. I mean a -- for over one you're off loading all the processing somewhere -- here. Your input has -- go through the Internet. Process that -- server and then come back and I'm seeing -- issue here and I mean I -- -- really played with a service and maybe they found a way to mitigate that maybe that sort of gained the support aren't really. Twitch. Sort of games but that -- right now I mean I I experienced lag with a wireless controller in my how. So they're gonna be Wi-Fi as a canopy. So they haven't okay so we run out I know I don't represent the company guys you know that they haven't sedan it specifically says a spokesman -- congress. You UN you have to assume that it would at least be over -- right now lot of games that I mentioned that they support right now over their service are single player type adventure games where what you guys said -- -- movement like we're not gonna see a first person shooter anytime soon anyway. Know your -- -- -- more -- again you have on the -- -- they they promoted crisis -- one but. At the end of the day and and this is a huge -- this is so how things converging and also online has done a lot of amazing things not only. Are they pushing to acquire -- like video on on demand video delivery on their on one box. There integrated into the as you TVs this year so you'll be able to if you want -- to access streaming game service directly to your TV and now they're doing on their phones of their one of those companies. And as soon. In the puts in the platform on every device you can and creative. As -- value to the subscription you're gonna pay. To use the service that you know instead of like alike can use it on my computer news and on this -- set top box. I can also use on my phone -- -- yet sure you may not play either of which he gained but -- mean there are games that are for example available on the -- Xbox Live Arcade that. May want to have access to -- my iPhone. -- incidentally. I see the the than that the added value there maybe not as a primary selling point but at the bullet point -- what they already are apparently yet it's it's cool stuff I mean I think when you see these satellite. And I would've never expected some. I honestly would have expected to CR like push for on Smartphones that's owners like to its -- the -- -- -- and makes Smartphones that it has -- -- -- Smartphones and it's a huge chunk of of what makes Smartphones with the -- and you see people talk about apps they usually talking about games network of friends Angry Birds you know from birth of duty game. It's always the game that really kind of push. The innovation. I think that I just I think the market needs to decide really have those games are gonna delivered I mean it is in some ways for -- ramps -- -- we get this option and then if we have something like -- looks like we're gonna see on Sunday a PlayStation phone. It is an area play. Exactly how are those are going to be loaded trek on the devices that can be -- -- -- mean and it's -- -- really -- now so you're right any. Games are huge part of that but there's still so many ways they can be delivered to the device and its original win eventually but it. Absolutely if you got them on jumping back tonight last that this at -- -- right now palms -- for the touch pad is actually HP's say -- no actually palm dot com slash a really of the -- touchpad. And the next they're really cool feature they've got so -- kind -- in line with them then -- -- thing earlier. Where you can load -- -- Euro and the URL in your at a -- -- that a URL it. All girl -- -- you can load and -- on your your Palm Pre. In your reading it and then you can pull your touch -- out and tap your pre. To the touch panel and have it open that site though there's some sort of connectivity between the two devices that's I mean not that McCain not that I -- that's really use that but the fact that those devices and already -- -- in APIs to talk to each other look -- -- and its -- if somebody sends you an email. You open Apple would say in your your on the train look -- like this is too much to read on the phone you can just. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And on just what to do this yeah I mean and and then like the -- leave -- something -- and Andrew Chrome to phone. Where you can pushed to your phone but -- take -- -- -- to do I -- and the pushing from your phone. For a -- for your Brothers your phone is pretty easy to set up and in the pushing backwards. I mean you install. You know in a plug in your browser and yet to have separate app running boon in both of the theme that doesn't actually in two directions to that. Period that's definitely a lot easier just to be able to tap your phone to your pad and if it works that way actually -- it. Will mean considering their you know. Develop their you know the same -- and -- manufacturers. Distinctly -- pretty easy. Opportunity and it's probably just some sort of like a magnetic -- -- over the touchpad news. That's just triggering the the much in the same way where your car got an and an Android phone it's -- magnate note -- -- karma. Yeah we're just armed killers kind of recapping some stuff that has happened at the HP then a -- -- -- -- -- was mentioned a while even that web page that looks. Just like apples and before Omar actual show we are talking about. A Jon Rubinstein who is currently deceit you know CO of their mobile division and whatnot over you know push with that was with -- -- and HP has now acquired in the -- not. He was a VP of engineering with Apple so he has that DNA though his -- and so. It you know the DNA of not only with -- the desktops but also like the iPad I'd. On the he wasn't there during the iPad -- but I was the they were Apple is thinking about that's up long before but he has that DNA the fingerprints of Apple to even the child at the clean look -- -- OS in the inner. Hey any idea of the ecosystem of devices and -- -- the transfers between devices you can have the same experience just its Oracle smaller. And maybe you lose a couple features but it's pretty much the same thing and. It's a synergy acts. Are right that sort of the day detonated -- relatives are gonna take a break and -- come back with more stories will if you have any more updates the -- -- -- -- We'll let you know but we'll take a little break we'll be back. I welcome back everybody to buzz out loud in the city would -- -- energy determines it better and commitment and the -- myself. Although on the -- yes Molly is still an ally in -- -- my ties. I hope she comes back some -- of red or pink or to put him that the comic -- probably read with them and happy that I am -- and the code looking for us. I know -- I don't know I don't know if she can and nice nice page I couldn't. I'll find out if she can I don't know these things a gay guys again we're following some of the HP announcements of -- web with the men with their devices recapping this. Three quake three things that in the of the year which is kind of like their small -- phone with the pre designed the pre -- or the pre. With -- on it because we can't hear them and then also the big debate. Yahoo! and of the touchpad the nine point seven inch touch that's so exciting stuff there but we're gonna jump in and kind of talk about a few other stories that are going on. On in the tech world and we have this line where the MPAA. Motion Picture Association America. Is -- -- -- their claim in a suit or -- hot file. Which is a cloud service and this is have an indication of what's happening at the trend. With the MP aliens he has a how they're now targeting I mean they're going after when they can't in essence but there's started target these cloud services that -- still we're still waiting for cloud services to take off. Rate we we -- -- -- integration with them not only in our computers and our own phones but with having your top Al Beasley is a service where you can store. Your files from you know gigs -- gigs of storage. What it is also though is it's become kind of a place where a lot of pirates not all their customers are like this are storing their files there because the you know they're uploading them and then distributing them. If you go to the hop -- cited. It really looks just like a storage based site you -- also think you could never even you don't even see there's no mention like store your videos and movies like story about its very clean so. It -- things that. Analysts say Barley -- you know in essence the community knows about this and PA knows about this and they're going after. You can also -- stream your movies and music that are straight from there you don't accept the re download it to watching which I which often makes it. -- and on the you know. With it with a cloud service the elk also kind of some of the other trends you're -- -- liberty media holdings an adult film studio last month filed copy rights suit against -- file for storing their content and then you see other examples of on -- like EMI which is one of the big four music labels suing MP3 tunes dot com which. I actually use and it's a pretty it's. It just one day it's not fully baked yet but the whole idea of the cloud is something that I've been waiting for -- -- you guys that at least from from a media content your. -- the from I mean I mean on -- on a much smaller scale means slightly dropped by the completely mean. Relegated my US the united massive collection -- USB easily -- -- lessons. -- we get a -- we let me let me get a lot of those -- out of a box like every time something -- came -- take. An obvious difference -- I -- the name of the company liberty media holdings is that it will probably have to have a -- -- have them generic mini me. And we stand for liberty from the -- -- Although they did they not connected to Liberty University -- with -- Jerry -- started liberty university's identity crimes that are connected to be the perfect corrected now in there. Also -- living along we there's a story to follow up of the worker. Who was fired over FaceBook comments on -- -- -- -- of the medical American medical response of Connecticut. Com and it. The national relations board labor relations board and it's -- the agreed to -- a lawsuit overseas aspiring which occurred after she used FaceBook. Outside of work on her own home computer to criticize her -- So there is just -- my friends. You know you can put that most of about ten after the show and partly not my boss. That's true -- I don't meaning that the American but Aung. And -- -- get out. -- -- -- -- -- Okay that I think that the stories like this it's -- Number one -- -- -- don't put anything on their you don't want anyone else -- that that's my primary. You know I don't put anything on the Internet that you don't you want someone to see I mean and secondly loans are few things. All of those are easy to -- I mean they're not having it there and general manager of the manual for that because holds only eight minutes and do it. I mean if you're gonna use the service -- give them a Fella feel mean if you if you don't like beef would thrive without incident or I'm not to read -- the bind manual update not the palace -- net interest and enough to know that acronyms so I'm gonna let -- -- -- -- All right on this kind of -- -- some of the -- -- is following up obviously. What's this what's the show again without any Apple is Apple's new iPad -- going to the Wall Street Journal because we haven't heard this before. -- is in production obviously they are confirming that with their sources. China I'm assuming trying to take a little steam out of the HP announced that because somehow this information was sent the Wall Street Journal conveniently the night before. The HP announcement but the new iPad. Like we've talked about will be thinner and lighter than the first model. On people close familiar with -- it'll have at least one at least one camera on the front of the device for video conferencing -- -- better -- on the -- resolution display though they say will be similar the first iPad. -- when he four by 768 there always rumblings about. A retina display we know now at least the HP touch pad is also -- potentially -- and 68. Display on more memory more powerful graphics -- Will be available for AT&T Verizon Wireless but not sprint or T-Mobile -- -- -- sources when you think we might in announcement. On a month or so maybe announcement maybe even by the and of this month but released end of march early April you know that's that's okay -- -- yearly time frame and upload. It just make it just makes -- -- -- on. But I do you feel like we will at least the an announcement of that I can refresh other laptop line before we see the iPad announcement properly -- like united they want to be able event but the -- -- -- on the site. And with a sandy bridge processors -- -- -- -- later on they still should be pretty much on track that. Also on an update if you -- wonder about the AT&T iPhone and its antenna problems doesn't pack the Verizon. IPhone -- -- -- there's a video by Thailand she was. No really can get out there show that a if you squeeze your phone really really hard or covered with your entire both hands completely. You might experience the same the same thing intense. Well -- I you know. This is that this is the Democrat I America like that words after this term death grip when it came out because they have a competent and unfairly blames the user because. When we when we tested the -- tac -- iPhone -- we really found that even if you just touch that one antenna gap not when you squeeze them from academic Helen. You did I think it did affect reception but this is different I mean this is taking it really almost putting -- hand over the whole thing. Which is what different than what we found and we found actually testing the Verizon -- it didn't have those attenuation problems -- -- on the original. And another thing it's like I we were talking about this these islands obviously -- lot of Apple product average but -- -- one of the scenery go play it again it if the older phone at -- and you have you don't hold your bullet that you have to squeeze it yeah the thing that you -- and -- -- it so ardently knuckles for life. I still feel this is overblown yes it exists but it's -- I mean. Other one was. And in the case and I'm not the other one was you know if you is that is that thing right there -- -- -- and if you just how that like that. You could see a difference but this is. This is how I don't dramas -- Not like you're gonna process so -- and have the screen so it's it's not -- -- On its -- or not -- really fair analysis. This is this the remote -- Pixar plain -- -- done but it's overblown it's alright it's alright I wonder why you don't have the opposite effect where touching the antenna would boosts. You really do the trick with like their cars like transponder were if you need extra range Hewlett put it on your shot up -- -- -- -- you -- cards worth transponder if you touch it to your head you double the -- -- you can really like about your car from halfway across the parking lot. Why doesn't my cell -- -- -- it's pretty I do it all the time. College student when I do it but I do it all the time I -- like if you like you trying to lock your car and -- too far away did not -- -- and it doesn't work try touching your forehead within the body -- completely it'll bring -- your hands on I'm not even -- to eat and how -- on that. Yes -- -- idea I'm pretty sure it has a moderate them frequencies involved the yellow and yet just some somebody -- I ordered a -- -- -- places he could even go farther away. Or you have an incredible metal plate in your head that would allow unaided Smith did of the people while everyone at a price analyst -- let it works it works and time and from -- Android. But until then that -- -- It's that logically. Are also quick little message here Verizon iPhone -- is now available for online orders the pre orders were originally available just for Verizon customers but. You guys wanna check it out on Verizon. An Apple site you can now order them online people are you getting them shipped to their homes them. As of yesterday as well so on you know. That's going on a scale we're gonna skip this next article next let's jump into the quick -- -- -- First. Phone. You know that painful because -- painful to listen to -- -- up. We're just following up with -- sandy bridge on chips chips companion chipset that had an issue or as little faulty Intel said -- this is a all -- yesterday this can happen and we missed it. But Intel said it begins ship it -- -- Fixed versions of the sandy bridge chip sets in mid February. So it really think gonna put too much of a delay ready when it was like all about the Mac but it's not they're pretty much can -- the -- delayed a few weeks though. That's Katrina. -- -- -- And -- it that her I was I was is trying to get of the article after I guess it because we actually Nicole we just read about this so so. This AT&T has announced that -- -- mobile number and so what that is and -- -- are doing this in different form by. You can get free calls to exit any other cellphone. Regardless of carrier. So it does not to be just AT&T the things you need for this are a minimum twenty dollar -- -- -- month unlimited messaging plan which. I'm probably most people in -- -- up plus an existing voice plan. Only certain ones -- and this is for individual and -- plans. I -- -- -- AT&T site -- -- which -- -- the probably that the mid range plans that might not the cheapest in that. Up from the beginning -- -- this is that I mean there's I remember. You know when you're like. Taylor when I was like dating someone like basically want her to get on the same planet like. Some carriers mean so that I could use limits the minutes unlimited with a link when you're qualifier -- ahead. -- so low lit led him with visionary and as stated and the companies that widget and he takes out he takes up the academic team mobile search -- Hello and would you like to sign up for him to. -- -- -- -- -- That's super greedy -- Next step. Your kids get off -- that -- Flash Adobe Flash Player ten -- twos here for windows Mac and Linux. The big points are gonna be first that I'm in now -- hardware acceleration on the Mac platform. I'm so those of you Apple users can take advantage of that there's also a new feature called staged video. That -- then some a -- -- six or hardware acceleration for 1020 I think 1080 IP video. And then also a couple of other new features of the -- that's all gets up across all -- -- stuff for video and for for users. Also people on the if you're curious about enable the iPod classic live to see another date. I'm right now the supply is are extremely -- places like target. Either indicate that -- -- -- mock I don't see Apple getting rid of the classic I mean there's still plenty of you guys out they'll -- -- variety that the man. Without either -- or the touch and it and at the -- the -- I mean the classic has store holds the most music out of all the iPods. In what's funny is out of all of the Apple devices I've owned by -- -- Five G the the fifth generation when the iPod video was actually the only one still works -- -- handguns are -- iPod touches and -- Say hello to an iPod Touch and I don't I had a classic reply that I actually went back to -- A human use had -- back yeah I think it's doubtful. In Evernote. I don't see them revamp -- in -- unique human at least you know -- business -- More gigs mega gigabytes then -- -- gigabytes Sunday. That's -- to Canada to -- -- this -- And then I guess finally the -- Google translate app that came out on Android last month where you basically. Talk into it and it accepts up to fifteen languages and it's the expect human -- -- he. Is now available on violence they get that for your iPhone when you go to Barcelona. And and please direct me to the -- I'm them to use that for a lot of other reasons of clay tablet has more analyst at the things museum and tourist -- reading about these numbers of people in elephant man with the -- and noticed instantly and I would like it out on at 11 AM and that's. -- the first reason Linden current and I can repeated. Satellite it is seriously -- now what is it translated English and remove outer violence. -- -- -- -- -- And then we'll let you -- translated completely ram less than. At any good -- over it you gadget of you guys this is coming but actors and in the show tickets out on -- you guys have a chance to peek at it. Monitored this is the world's largest touch screen. I can detect up to 100 point touch points out once for those people that 100 fingers. Or. Send people. Or if you put it on the forty completely in a massive game video twister -- limited degrees or was it five people using -- their feet and -- and -- the -- until every individual isn't right I'm an artist and it is the I do I don't know about you guys. Familiar brands on speed and partly to the things I believe -- an -- about prime time. I got opposable thumbs -- are right universe that out of her run different. The run engine in the Netherlands as the one that is developed this it's a -- -- 135 degree. The curvature of one of -- -- treatment unit 32 point eight feet long. Nine point few feet high. That's neat that is pretty well. I mean yeah if you if you -- the -- not now -- -- Where's the United -- -- not mine or dictionary -- dictionary. I mean how long before that a single useful thing they don't already does that would be an array of hunger for that ends up in some cop show -- -- -- -- -- -- in the -- investigation room in the back right while they did this volatile. And yes I as a whole new toy play are right yes I know -- dizziness and property on the and then I guess that's wanted to get here in on the it's a concept of -- but this is the pretend to be a doctor with these that the -- -- phones. The wall and pretend to be a doctor with the stethoscope headphones I'm not a doctor but it -- -- -- -- it. The staff the phones yet you know new. So yeah no I. Do not want this -- those old headphones in an -- You know that you can say -- -- doctor. Dynamic learner likes -- is gonna collapse right next to you them all and there have been governor one of those moments -- someone -- in this is their doctor and health. Like in real -- yet so I have. Now whether the doctor that. And eleventh are you had -- -- now well no but if you can purchase these methods notes you might node and so will come running over to me the -- qualified person hole in the atmosphere that you. A gay guys are gonna -- the feedback loop. The. All right and noble Israel's -- and on -- -- this one's coming from RGF hey guys. I work for Verizon I just wanna add a bit of info on skipping the activation set up on Android device. Come from show on -- devices from show fourteen -- three. It is true that if you tap the four corners of the screen. It will bypass the initial set up. But this method only works for some Android devices is different for each skin for example like -- TC sense or Samsung and as far as adding an Android phone with out a data -- just by doing this. Think again. As Verizon will automatically add the data on their as soon as any smart phone yes and is activated on the line. -- -- -- Garrett at the effort to this is in response the Motorola zoom and how -- the fine print they said there is a data plan though it was associate with it to a lock on the Wi-Fi. If you're really just -- if you can get over YouTube around something like mobile or -- has -- -- query mean you have to receiving get anywhere to sign up an account so as it's pretty annoying. Well that's just it just makes you use it in if you have a signed up and it takes a few minutes to register for the count you know you want your phone you just wanna start. -- -- It's a one time thing. It is with a grain -- -- arguably you rule not to sign up like nine times before you remove people -- went to someone yeah but I'm not a but the most notable here perhaps Israel to use -- authorities throughout. All right next keynote and I think of this one. Stark and experience yes I -- -- from Steve and at this current listening to episode fourteen -- three with Texas yesterday answer. -- stated that he could talk on if you could talk on his mobile phone and surf the Internet while doing so he would switch to Verizon. Does this mean he's gonna switch to Sprint's four G service -- -- -- -- development and bring him in Tampa Florida which is -- -- -- -- I can -- and -- and found -- -- -- -- without -- problem and -- -- -- And text messages and even use voice commands to find directions to -- -- free navigation software eat that AT&T and well. I guess Steve is correct that forgy forty services like as you go and dvd Amazon. WiMax radio. And a -- -- -- use -- he will allow you to use text and data the same time. It's just that CDM eight at it -- as it exists now. Will not unless -- on Wi-Fi then you can do it. And pass a change is coming supposedly proceeded a technology that we just don't know when and that will be or even who implement so I'm very good point -- -- Simultaneous voice and -- yes yes. Alright guys just wanna say thank you so much in Wellington for coming in and out of you guys enjoy your time here yen. Terms. 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