-What's going on, everyone?
It is Wednesday, December 11th, 2013.
This is The 404 Show.
Thanks for tuning in.
I'm Jeff Bakalar.
-I'm Justin Yu.
-Welcome to the program, ladies and gentlemen.
Making her debut in our brand-new fantastic studio, Shanon Cook, ladies and gentlemen.
Round of applause for Shanon Cook.
-Welcome back, Shanon.
-It's-- It's been--
-Thanks for having me.
-It's been-- It's
our freakin' pleasure.
It's been so long, but we're glad you're finally back.
We went through-- We had a lot of transitional sort of stuff we had to take care of.
-Well, you have to get this beautiful, boomerang shaped desk in here.
-And that's totally in honor to you and your heritage.
-We were-- And we were gonna have like Foster's here and stuff.
-That would not be good--
-Not be good.
-'cause that's not a good beer?
-What's your-- Wait, what's your favorite beer?
-Moving along, we're not gonna hold that against you.
-No, I don't-- I don't drink-- I don't
really drink beer, to be honest.
It's fair enough.
-But what's wrong with Corona?
Is that like a--
-Oh, I'm thinking--
-Is it entitled chick's beer?
-It is it a chick's beer?
I mean, Justin [unk] 'cause he doesn't drink beer.
It's not a chick's beer.
What do you mean you're with her?
-Neither Shanon nor I drink beer.
-All right, yeah.
So, I'm not gonna hold that against you.
-Well, then, let's stop talking about beer 'cause you're outnumbered.
-I am, apparently.
-I know white Russian girl personally.
-All right, I dig that, little like [unk] stuff.
I'm into it.
So, Shanon, you're here.
You always come and bring the fantastic Spotify viral list, but this time,--
-we have like year-end review stuff to talk about.
-We do, because the year is nearly over.
-And it's a perfect sort of timing because, this morning, Spotify made a bunch of announcements about the service.
-There was a lot of activity at Spotify's headquarters in New York this morning.
Lots of people were there eating out food.
-Well, I mean, you had it for them to eat, right?
-Well, kind of.
-It wasn't just like they were going into your fridge and taking
That was like labeled Shanon, right?
-That was kind of happening, but we'll discuss that later.
No, it was really exciting.
Daniel Ek, our CEO,--
-was there and he made a couple of big announcements.
One of them being that Led Zeppelin is giving all their music--
-making all their music available on Spotify exclusively.
-It's pretty awesome.
-That's very awesome.
They've sort of been holding out on the whole streaming market for quite some time--
-and they decided to go with us and
Daniel is actually a huge Led Zeppelin fan.
So, he's personally very excited about that.
-So, why wasn't Led Zeppelin there?
What was that about?
-Just-- They weren't anywhere.
-They just weren't free.
-No, I mean, like actually at the press conference.
-You don't have an answer for that?
-Maybe, because we didn't offer the right food.
-Is that what it is?
-The salmon just in the fridge, weren't cutting it.
I wish they were there.
I'd love to meet Robert Plant, but alas--
-Couldn't make it.
-Daniel was our rock star this morning.
What can I say?
-Scheduling conflict, it's always a problem.
-I just brought-- I just brought the fancy eye makeup--
-which is freaking Justin out.
-I would appreciate you bringing them out here too.
-Your eyes are so brighter now.
Your eyes are amazing.
Just keep the shot on her.
-No, I don't.
And don't zoom in on my eyes.
You see-- You see how bloodshot they are.
-No, they're not bloodshot.
They're bloodshot-- Well, if they are, they're bloodshot with the news that Spotify is now free across all kinds of platforms.
-Exactly, we've just-- we're now making Spotify available for free on tablets
and mobile 'cause mobile-- mobile of course is the big go-to place at the moment and--
-that's how the young kids are basically engaging--
-with music and playlist and what not.
-So, we're thrilled to make it available to them for free.
-I'm superexcited about that.
-Our premium service is still available and still different,--
-but we now have this free service too which has been to attract more people, I think.
-It's pretty awesome.
I'm very excited about that.
I know a lot of people--
-Now, you really?
-Well, I pay for Spotify, so--
-I mean, I guess, now, my question is like what do I get now that I'm paying, you know, like, 'cause I was--
-I was like holding that, you know, mobile thing over people's life.
-No, but you still-- if you're a big music aficionado, and I always grow up that way.
Did I get it right?
-Now, you nailed it.
-Then, you wanna be with the premium service--
-Oh, yeah, for sure.
-because it offers a lot more flexibility.
-High quality streaming, like,--
-High quality audio--
-and also you can find songs on demand.
-That's not actually hugely possible on
the free service.
It's more of like-- it's an artist sort of thing and it's shuffle,--
-So keep your subscription and you'll be very happy.
Well, you answered my question pretty successfully there.
-I appreciate that.
So, let's talk about, you know, year-end review stuff.
-What are-- I mean, I know-- you know, you have like sort of a list that has the data that says like this was--
-what was the most popular.
Well, first of all, let me hit you with this number because numbers are fun especially in December.
-I think so.
-4.5 billion hours of music, if you can get your head around that, were streamed on Spotify in 2013.
-And to put that another way, that's 50,000 years of music.
-It's just, my golly.
-You can't get-- You can't really get your head around it.
-So, do you know about like year-over-year stuff because I feel like 2013 was-- especially in the U.S.
-That was like-- Absolutely, that's how been our biggest number today.
-Yeah, for sure.
-And we've grown so much in the past year that it
-We've just gotten more-- more music is being streamed.
-But we're also able to break down, like who was the most streamed artist, and I know Justin is so excited for me to tell who it is--
-Oh, my God, I can't wait.
-'cause it's his favorite artist.
-I love this guy.
-Macklemore and Ryan Lewis--
-were the most streamed artist on Spotify globally--
-I just found out who they were.
That's the, you know, the ceiling is an issue.
We've got put our hands up, right?
That's not guy, right?
-I think so.
-Music goes like, how is it going?
-Can't Hold Us.
I don't wanna sing it 'cause I wouldn't do it justice, but I love the way--
I think-- Oh, actually, I don't even know what song you're--
-You are full--
-The only song I know from them is the thrift store song--
-You are so--
-but that's old.
-full of crap.
I probably heard it before walking down the street, but I can't sing it back to you.
-Ariel, you know how it goes.
I don't follow them.
-He's like-- Yeah, I don't know.
-I'm singing it in my head.
-People don't like Macklemore?
-I'm singing it in my head and that's [unk]
-Wait, do you like Macklemore?
-I don't like him.
I just found out like I put together who he was--
-in the last two weeks.
-He's been everywhere.
-It's just-- It's like the biggest song in America.
-He's been everywhere.
-There's no doubt about it.
-It's like a
song of 2013.
He's so full of shit.
-I feel proud that--
-Why don't you--
-I'm proud that I don't--
-He is looking at me and he's lying to me.
-Wait, do you really think that I'm lying I never heard that song?
You know the ceiling song.
-Sing-- Someone sing it and I'll probably recognize it.
-This song is Can't Hold Us.
-It's not [unk]
-Like the ceiling can't hold us.
-Yeah, there you go.
-Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
-Yeah, you know that song.
-Yeah, I do know that song.
-I put those--
-I didn't know that was Macklemore.
-I put those puzzle pieces together.
-So, it's not--
-That was the most streamed song on Spotify in 2013--
-Not in the U.S., but globally.
-Global, like on Earth.
-So, you have--
you don't like that song?
-Does anyone like that song?
-I mean, I don't like listening to it, but--
-Well, given that it's the top streamed song--
-I guess some people do.
-for the year, it's been hugely popular--
-and he's had a great year, like Thrift Shop was also like I think the--
-fourth top streamed song.
-Now, what song is that?
-That's the one where he is basically-- it's a kind of goofy.
-Yeah, it's cute.
-He is talking about the fact that he buys his clothes from the thrift stores.
-Who-- I mean, who doesn't?
-I'm sure you've seen that-- I don't.
I used to, but the moth ball smell,--
-I just can't-- I couldn't [unk]
-Smells like-- Smells like your grandma's house.
-You walk into those places and they are great.
You can find some really interesting, unique things there.
-But that moth ball smell, I don't feel it.
-I don't like it.
-What's the thought for that song like?
How-- like, what's the chorus?
-Stop putting me on the spot.
-I just want you to sing.
-I'm not gonna sing.
-Yeah, come on.
-You sang for us during the--
-No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no-- That's all I'm gonna do.
-What was that?
-What was that?
-No, no, no.
-That was the banjo, doing Macklemore and Ryan Lewis.
-He's got a
banjo on his band?
-No, no, no.
-I'm kidding around.
I've heard that story song.
-Of course, it's-- it was--
-It's super popular.
-It was huge on our viral list in the U.S.
for many, many, many, many, many, many months.
-So, Ryan Lewis--
-It's very popular.
-is his like DJ guy, right?
-That's how it works.
-His producer/DJ guy.
-And these guys are kind of young, right?
They're like in their late 20s, early 30s.
They're from Seattle and sort of came out of nowhere.
-Do you think like Kurt Cobain is like rolling over in his grave?
-You know, he's like this is what's coming out of Seattle now?
-You think that's-- You think he's upset about that?
-What is so bad about this duo?
Because to be honest, I quite like them and if you look at the awards shows that they've performed on--
-this year, their performances have been or-- Macklemore's performance, particularly, has been the best.
-He's had-- He brings so much energy.
-Is he like-- Oh, my God, he's very behind it.
-That's an extreme close-up.
-He kind of looks like a frog a little bit.
-Don't say that.
-What-- So,-- So, you--
-No, he doesn't look like a frog.
It's some sort of like reptilian thing.
-Well, nobody looks good zoomed in like that.
-Of course, not.
-But I don't know if you watch the VMAs which really--
-No, I didn't watch that.
-I watched that.
-The only thing-- The only thing anyone talked about was Miley Cyrus' twerking, but--
-Macklemore did a beautiful performance of another one of their songs, Same Love--
-which is kind of a gay rights' anthem--
-and it was-- it was beautiful.
-It was good.
-Yeah, it's actually a song where he brings some heart and--
-He brought the heart and soul to the whole VMA show--
-with that beautiful song--
-which has a really nice hook.
-that's a good message.
-really nice hook.
-That's got a nice message.
So, we can't knock on that.
-No, we can't.
He kind of-- He kind of just like showed up on nowhere, right?
-Is that how he-- right?
-As far as I know he-- I mean, he's been--
-It's the most popular song of 2013.
-Most popular song and also their debut album, The Heist, was the most streamed album worldwide--
And this is so impressive too because they did all this independently.
No record label behind them.
-Oh, I didn't know that.
-It's kind of cool.
-It's pretty impressive.
-So, that means all profit,--
So, you notice there's more jewelry with his performance that he does.
It's just like--
-I think last time I saw him--
-helicopter is in.
-last time I saw him, he had some very expensive-looking chains around his neck.
-Good for him.
-So, I'm not sure that he's--
-He seems like a nice enough guy.
-He does seem like-- I don't think--
-I don't know.
-he's shopping in thrift stores anymore.
-I feel like Ariel's biting his tongue.
He doesn't have a mic today?
-What do you wanna say?
-We'll relay it to the listener.
-Are you upset with-- Ariel, are you upset with Macklemore?
Does he upset you?
-He's saying no.
-He's been around for a long time.
He's done underground record.
So, he was underground for a while.
-But I just [unk]
-Justin, you always have like very opinionated thoughts on these kinds of people.
-What-- Be honest, what do you think about Macklemore?
-But don't be [unk] on this because I have--
-I don't know him well enough to judge-- to form an educated opinion.
-Oh, you don't-- Okay.
-No, that's-- I'm just joking.
I mean, I only know that there are stories and I never heard of his underground stuff, but--
-He's kind of thin personally.
-Basically, he likes--
-I don't understand why some people would--
-he likes Macklemore as much as he likes beer.
-I think-- I think we can just bring it back full circle.
-Let me throw out some other things--
-Yeah, let's do it.
-Rihanna-- Rihanna was the most streamed female in the world--
-for the second time in a row--
-Good for her.
-second year in a row.
She also had that title last year.
-The most streamed artist in the U.S., do you wanna know who that is?
-'Cause-- Interestingly, it's not Macklemore in my list.
-Well, let's guess-- He hasn't worked with the network--
-See if you can guess.
-Do you want another try?
-Oh, Daft Punk.
-No, but very good guess.
-You've got the right first letter.
There's your clue.
-Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
-I was like, "I know that song."
-Ding, ding, ding.
-Oh, now, you're throwing dings in.
-I don't know.
-Can I just tell you 'cause it's--
-getting a bit silly now.
-Sure, sure, sure.
-Oh, of course, duh.
-Yeah, he is Jewish.
-Good for him.
-He's from Toronto.
-So, he's the most streamed artist in the U.S.
The top streamed track in the U.S.--
-was by Imagine Dragons.
-What is that thing?
-Oh, that's-- I don't--
-I don't hate them.
-You do hate them.
-I don't hate them.
-That's a very good arena song.
-It's a-- That's Radioactive.
Like, oh, that's-- and I'll play a little of it right now--
-I'm not singing it.
-for people who don't--
-I've-- I did my little-- hum sing--
-It's just like--
-Welcome to the new age, to
the new age--
-You know that song?
-I like you singing it.
-You like me singing it.
-It's good rock.
-It's good rock.
-We're gonna call it rock?
-Rockish, pop rock.
-Yeah, I'm gonna call it-- I guess pop rock.
It's not Led Zeppelin rock.
And Led Zeppelin would have a fit--
-if you would have put them in the same category with Imagine.
-But it's some-- there's something I'm okay with--
-with this band.
I like their song Demons too--
-which is a descent track.
-I like them and they just came out of Las Vegas.
huge in Vegas.
-They're just, you know, the heroes of the city.
-They're huge in Vegas because there's a lot of like glitz and glamour.
-And there's something about the chorus of that song where people just feel like they can do anything.
He does like--
-God, this song has 108 million hits on YouTube.
-That's a lot.
-you shouldn't listen to it on YouTube.
You should listen to it on Spotify.
-Obviously, if you want--
-if fidelity matters,--
-The visuals don't count.
Yeah, it doesn't--
-It's all meant to be [unk]
-I don't care what the song looks like.
-Yes, but look at that girl's eyes.
-I think her eyes
-You guys are in competition of the coolest eyes of the week.
-I'm just putting that out there.
So, yeah, Imagine Dragons,--
-I'm totally okay with that.
So far, that's my favorite artist on your little list there.
-You might like the next one on the list 'cause we've talked about her-- What do you say ad nauseam?
-I always need your help with my vocab.
I don't know--
-No, that's fine.
That's like a cultural, like linguistic sort of issue we ran into.
-[unk] something like that.
-Remember our friend, Lorde?
-I keep saying this.
She owes you money.
She just owes you like a check.
She should take you out.
-She-- I'd take a hand shake.
-Right, which is like a fit of the cap.
-Well, so-- And I just wanna preface before we talk about her.
You really-- For me, like you introduced me to her.
-And you were able to like see the viral sort of data that was coming out about her way back--
-when I don't know, it was like the first time you were here 'cause that was the first--
-I think it was April.
So-- And now,--
-And March and April was really when she fizzled up.
makes it sound like she fizzled out, but she bubbled up.
-She ascended and partly because she was just being shared by in playlists all over the place.
And now, she is out most viral new artist of 2013.
-Good for her
-I think you'd be surprised and she got a couple of Grammy nominations.
So, she's up there.
-She's gone from no one knowing who and what she is--
-to being up there with Lady Gaga and Rihanna--
-And it's really quite amazing.
-So, I mean, in the--
-No, I was just gonna say-- in the same way that a few bands back in the day really were able to rise to the top through something like Napster.
-Lorde kind of has that relationship with Spotify.
-With Spotify, yeah.
-And we're finding that Spotify is becoming a nice place to nurture this new talent and we can help kind of-- help spotlight them.
You know, like, we can put their profiles on the main page--
-and stuff like that.
-And all of that stuff really helps.
she's one of the artists that we did help.
When we saw that she was-- she had something going,--
-we really [unk]
-It's a good song.
-Yeah, I like that song.
-it's empirically a good song.
-It is a good song and she performed it-- it was Friday night, I guess, at the Grammy nominations concert and it was a really unusual performance.
It's not what I was expecting.
I don't know if you've seen her perform at all, but--
-No, I think I've seen like one video on YouTube of it.
-She's now 17, by the way.
-She's-- 'cause it's--
-She's like a--
-the longest time I kept saying, she's 16, so young.
It's just so annoying.
But now, she's 17 which is a huge difference as we know.
I'm just speaking sarcastic.
-But her performance-- But her performance was really-- she came out wearing just a plain white shirt, plain black pants that more than even like super tight--
She was wearing platform shoes like this.
I was wondering if she's kind of short in stature.
-She just had-- her hair wasn't like styled in any certain way.
-I respect that.
-Not a super--
-I'm into it.
-She just stood there and she sang the song and they'd kind of
re-imagined it a little.
It was a-- There was a bit of-- sort of a dance element.
-And she danced a little, but subtly.
She was very dramatic.
-She did a whole--
Not like your friend.
What's his name?
-Puddles the Sad Clown.
-Oh, my goodness.
He killed it in that cover--
-Yeah, he did.
-which we shared that on Twitter today.
We'll put that in the [unk] as well.
It's an amazing cover of that song.
She is-- I'm fascinated by her in the way I was sort of fascinated with Lady Gaga on the beginning
-she just seems confident and she just seems very mature for her age.
And she doesn't care what people think.
-And that could have something to do with the fact that she grew up in New Zealand--
-where you're so far away from the rest of the world.
-Aren't you supposed to hate her, right, like, Australians and New Zealanders hate each other?
-I'm supposed to.
I'm supposed to, but I don't.
You somehow found friendship through the beauty of song.
-She's so sweet.
-Did you ever read some gossip about her yesterday?
-No, I didn't.
-So, why are you gonna bring it to that, man?
-I'm kidding, which--
-I thought we're a gossip-based show.
-Well, now, I really wanna hear that.
-Are we gonna tell the news?
-Are we a gossip-based show here?
-This is news to me, but go on.
-This is kind of cool.
-This kind of goes in line with what we're just talking about.
-She's sort of a humble artist and it's all about the music for her.
It's not about the fans.
-She burned all her money.
-So, she's been taking photos with her boyfriend recently--
-who happens to be an Asian guy,--
-not a big deal.
-Of course not.
-happen all the time.
-But for some reason, teens did not like that.
-One Direction fans, her fans hated it.
they went on Twitter and it was just racist tyrants--
-Are you kidding me?
-all day long yesterday.
I mean, he is a little bit older, but they weren't talking about his age.
-That's a little--
-That's a little illegal.
-At that point--
-What are the laws over there?
That's a little--
-Are you familiar with the laws in that--
-What's going on in this world?
-portion of the world?
-No, I'm not.
When I was 18, I had a 27-year-old boyfriend.
-Just as bad.
-And I was very mature.
-Oh, my gosh.
-So, she's been taking photos with her
-Well, they're brushing their teeth together.
That's a little weird.
It's kind of looked a like in a weird sort of way.
Yeah, their eyes are sort of similar, but anyway--
-Are you sure their eyes are similar?
-Not at all.
I know she has blue eyes.
-They have-- They have like-- the teardrop faces.
-The two of them.
-In this photo, yes.
I mean, she's just been posting cute photos like this, but--
-Oh, that's terribly mean.
-She has been getting a lot of flock for it for some reason.
-Well, those people don't matter who make fun of--
-That's all-- That's insulting.
-Has she responded?
Has she said anything?
-She said, "I don't care.
You know, I'm just trying to have fun.
-I'm a young girl.
-We're gonna continue--
-This is my boyfriend and I'm proud of it."
Why don't you concentrate--
-I like that.
-on the fact that I'm writing my own music--
-and lyrics at the tender age of 16.
-I like that she's not going out and dating someone who's famous too.
-Like, she's not dating Harry Styles or someone like a heartthrob.
-Well, that's not her--
-Well, that was Harry Styles.
-It's not her style.
Well, what-- It's not her style, but that's kind of what--
-That's kind of what the song Royals is all about.
-It's sparking fun at the big pop stars--
-and how ridiculous they can be.
-I respect that.
And we-- And I've become a legitimate fan of hers.
-Just because your wife likes her or you--
-Oh, it's the combination of like your introduction of her.
-I feel like living in America where all, like, you know, kind of program to like her now.
-It is a catchy song, like--
-it's an empirically good song.
-And I think it's a lot better than like the Katy Perry's of the world that don't really have that voice--
-I hear you, but I do like Roar, Katy Perry's sort of latest song.
-I like it.
-And like, with like the lines and stuff.
-Well, the-- no, no, no.
I mean, lyrically--
-No, I'm not in love with it.
-But the hook.
I don't know.
I like a song that makes you move.
-Like even if it just means moving faster to the door.
-So you can get out quickly.
It's a motivational thing.
It hooks you up.
-I got you.
-She has that effect on me.
-I understand that.
My wife loves that too.
-She loves that song too.
-It's-- I mean, it's all the formula, you know, it's a pop formula which--
-Oh, absolutely, yeah.
But did Katy Perry write that song?
That's where I got-- that's where draw line is in.
-Yeah, what else you got?
Another big star on Spotify this year was The Playlist.
-That's not the name of the band, by the way.
-It could be though.
-I like that name.
-Actually that's not a band name or-- no, I was gonna say name for now but that's not very clever for a [unk].
There are currently about 1.5 billion playlists on the Spotify and everyday,
one and a half million new playlists are created.
-Isn't that crazy?
That's kind of mind blowing.
-Do you guys create playlist?
I have a Halloween one, I had--
-Oh, I'm gonna--
-You don't have to share if it's private.
-I have one that like gets me psyched before a hockey game.
-That's not weird.
-No, that's not weird.
-I need to like get pumped up.
-I didn't know you're a hockey fan.
Are you a Rangers' guy?
-No, I'm a devil-- I like teams that win.
I'm a Devils' guy.
You can't tell I got a Devils' logo on my computer here.
I-- yeah, I need--
-I'm gonna stop going hmm.
-I need to get--
-It's a bit weird.
-I need to get like psyched up, you know, I gotta like--
-When I'm playing, I play too.
-What's on that playlist?
What's your ultimate get psyched up song?
Eye of the Tiger?
-There's like a-- no, no, no.
It's I gotta get moved not like, you know, kill somebody else.
I gotta be, you know, I gotta be moved not homicidal.
No, it's like that Rush song Tom Sawyer's on there.
-Motorhead is on there.
-Like Ace of Spades,
-that's a big like pumped up, like Master of Puppets by Metallica is on that.
-You're a total, total rock, rock dude.
Well, I like good music.
-Like it's simple.
Like your music, that's good.
-No, but that's for me.
Like that's what psyches me up.
-So, but how do you-- give me the context.
Like when do you listen to?
Do you listen to--
-So, it's like in the car--
-on the drive to the ice rink.
Like my buddy.
-And are you singing and--
-And we're just like, oh,
we gotta, you know, we gotta-- just gotta get hyped up.
Our games are usually late.
-So, you know, you need that sort of, you know, jump in your step,
-things that caffeine simply can't do.
-Things that protein bars aren't capable of achieving, you know--
-There are like guys driving around in cars that are just like-- like I got psyched up.
-Yes, it does.
-It's not like a bro thing.
We're not like high-fiving the whole time.
-I know but it just scares me that there's like all this like--
-Testosterone and that can find space.
And then where does that go after the game?
-It go-- well--
-Oh, it gets
exhausted during the game.
-During the game.
-Okay, that's good.
-And on the way home we all listen to like spoken word.
-Even though like it's all, you know.
-Well, hockey games are violent too.
-Yeah, it's like serious--
-You probably beat, they probably beat each other up while they're watching the game.
I mean, it's not-- it's a contact sport.
-So, you need, you-- and I have a Spotify playlist just for that,
-which is awesome.
Speaking of which, I think Spotify should like welcome in Podcasts.
-You think so?
-That's a good idea.
-Can we talk to like, Mr.
Ek about that?
thinking of a--
-Do you have his number?
-Jeff Bakalar, Podcast--
-I was thinking of the one Justin and I share.
-We met before that.
You know The 404.
-I was thinking of like our show, the one that you're on right now.
-Let me talk to Daniel.
-I'll see what he says.
-We have a buddy who--
-We do sessions.
We do interviews with the musicians and we broadcast their performances.
I've heard that.
-But I don't know.
Keep being nice to me and I'll see what I can do.
Well, our buddy, Andrew Mager, is-- he's like a hacktivist that does Spotify
-And we're just gonna treat you people very nice too.
-That's the way I play it out.
-So that it happens.
I need you to know that.
Do you have any other like year-end stuff or would you like to look forward?
Do you wanna-- let's look forward to 2014 which is--
-I always think that the next year, even though it were sort of early to mid December, I always feel like next year is so far away but it's just two weeks away.
-Literally tomorrow is Monday, so--
-I mean 19 days.
-Nineteen, which is
two and a half weeks.
-I can't get my head around it and I need someone to do my Christmas shopping because I just had no time.
-I can take care of that for you.
-If you go to CNET.com and buy all your--
-That sounds perfect.
-All my friends and family would be into that.
One, now, these are some artists that Spotify has chosen as their Spotlight of 2014.
-And these are-- some of these are artists who have been already generating a little bit of buzz on--
-on Spotify, on the Viral Chart, which I always talk about with you guys.
One of the artists, a really interesting lady out of Denmark.
-Her name, here we've been pronouncing it Mo.
-And it's spelled capital M with an O--
-With a slash through it.
-With a slash through it and I can't find that on my keyboard.
-That is not a letter.
-Well, it's a-- in the Danish alphabet it is.
-Like we're talking about real alphabet.
I think it's interesting that she decided to call herself that.
Her real name is Karen.
But because people cannot find that right around their keyboard,
-and people don't really know how to say it.
-Not the best SEO sort of friendly artist name.
-Maybe, maybe, but we'll see.
And actually the pronunciation I was talking to a friend of mine, who lives in Copenhagen,
-and he's Danish, she said it's not pronounced Mo at all.
It's more like, it rhymes with SacrÃ©-CÅ?ur, so it's MÅ?ur.
or something like that,
-like the French word SacrÃ©-CÅ?ur.
-I got you.
-If French people are listening, I did just put your SacrÃ©-CÅ?ur again, repeatedly.
-And you will get e-mails about that.
-My mom and dad live in this place in Maryland called Havre de Grace.
I think it's how you say it.
There's like apostrophes in there and everything.
-It looks like Havre de Grace.
-It's a French-- yeah, that's what they all say, Havre de Grace.
-Yeah, that's them down there.
-I'm sure the French would like hate that.
-Anyway, this woman is really interesting.
She's in a similar vein to other
I'm not sure if you're familiar with Oh Land.
-Doesn't ring a bell.
Google her,s he's very attractive.
-I'm sure you would love her.
-And Agnes Obel who's another Danish singer.
-Sort of a ethereal arty-farty.
Can I say farty?
-You most certainly can.
-She has a great song called Never Wanna Know, which we like.
She has a new album coming out.
-I'm playing that right now.
-She's done a bit of work with Diplo and Avicii, which Never Hurts.
I like Avicii, yeah.
-I like Avicii too and he has been huge
-So, her debut album comes out next, in February.
It's called No Mythologist to Follow.
So, she's been huge in Copenhagen, like they've been playing her constantly on the radio.
-And we think she has legs.
She does have legs because I've seen her walk.
-We think she has potential to be a big one in 2014.
What are we looking at?
-You're looking behind me.
-No, we were checking out--
-We were checking out some photos of Mo.
-I got nervous and--
-Did I say it right?
-Well, I don't think you say it like
it's French because she is Danish.
-Right, that's different country.
-But it's the way my friend explained, it was like it kind of runs the Coeur on Sacre-Coeur.
-We'll find out.
-Someone's gonna e-mail us and tell us the right way.
-We've been calling her Mo.
I hope she doesn't mind it, which I think is catchy.
It sounds really cool.
-I mean, it's way easier to pronounce here in the States.
-Let's talk about someone with another unusual name.
-We were checking out one of her videos earlier.
-You previewed this.
-So, what's the-- do we know what FKA
-I don't know what FKA stands for but I do know why she's called Twigs.
-Because apparently, her bones crunched.
Like when she does a bit of a contortionist routine,
-She needs to drink more milk.
-Yeah, she needs to drink way more milk, calcium.
-Well, Twigs is a nickname that she acquired growing up.
-She's based in London.
I believe she's about 25 years old.
-And if you're looking at this video--
-Is this YouTube video skipping or-- oh no.
-No, it's normal.
-She's kind of into like, so that contortionist or sort of thing
comes through in her and the way she-- her brand.
-And very performance oriented.
-She actually was a dancer.
-She trained as a dancer but opted for music over dance, but in all her videos the others were you can actually see her whole body.
-Some you see a lot of her whole body.
-Yeah, she's pretty intense there.
-She is, she's-- there's something extremely compelling about her sound and her look, and her sound is very-- it's trip hoppy.
to me she recalls Portishead and Massive Attack.
-And she's really cool, and this video that we're watching now for the song-- I think it's called Water Me.
-Her eyes get bigger,
-and really strange by the end of it.
It's-- they're really bugged out.
-It's super disturbing.
I think they're doing stuff to her lips as well.
-Do you think so?
They've exaggerated them?
-I-- yeah, right.
They just look a little strangely enormous.
-Well, my question is how are they doing that little head rock?
Like is she doing that?
-That could be like an after effect
sort of thing.
-I think it must be.
-You know, it's a really-- even if you're just-- if you don't even dig the music, just check out the video because it's aesthetically kind of awesome.
-And here comes tear.
Well, and another one to check out is the video of her.
It's called Papi Pacify.
-And it's very intense.
-Basically some guys sticking his fingers in her mouth and it's-- all you see is like her from the shoulders up.
-And you see this guy sort of wrap holding her and cuddling her
and sticking his fingers in mouth.
-And it's compelling and erotic but not in the same way that Miley Cyrus twerking is.
Do you know what I mean?
-It's very easy to visualize.
-No doubt about it and I would go, so far I would just say a little patsy than explicit.
-Yet, it's tasteful at the same time.
-I-- this one confuses me.
And look her eyes are getting so big.
They're-- it's kind of--
yeah, it's like almost like an anime thing or like an alien sort of thing.
Or like you said--
I dig it.
-Or like said earlier, it's a bit like Lady Gaga to that in her--
-In that Bad Romance video.
-Yeah, she was rocking those weirdo pupils there.
-But check her out.
Her music is really, really, really nice.
I really, really like it and I--
-I was a big fan of Massive Attack and I like the whole trip hop thing.
-So, I'm really excited about this one.
I think she'll do well.
She's already doing pretty well over in the UK.
artist I wanna talk about, he's also from the UK.
Everyone has a weird name.
-You know what?
I kind of-- I always love the fact like there's just endless array of that oddness.
Yeah, I know.
-So, Bipolar Sunshine.
Tell us about these people.
-Bipolar Sunshine is a guy.
-Is one guy.
-He's from Manchester in the UK.
-And we're listening to this now.
-And I-- he has a great song.
I don't know what song you are checking out but--
-This is a Love More Worry Less.
And I think this song is absolutely gorgeous.
-And one thing I like about this song is, I actually pay attention to the message of the song, which is "don't worry so much."
-It's a bit like the slow version of Bobby Mcferrin's Don't Worry Be Happy in a way.
-Pretty much just very similar message.
-I mean, the gist of the song is the same.
-It's like just chill out and try and be happy because what's the point in being any other way?
-And I actually-- I actually
paid attention to that message and the song actually helped me relax.
Any song that can help me relax--
-Well done, nice.
-and get a bit of perspective.
-There's a wind.
-I'm thrilled about it and this guy is really interesting.
He used to be the vocalist in-- I think it was a 6-piece rock band, not a rock band but sort of pop indie rock, you know.
-And he left the band to pursue-- well, the band kind of disbanded because they all had other things in mind and he's now a soloist and he's really great.
And he did this-- he participated in this competition where he-- the people involved had to create a song in 24 hours.
-And he worked with another artist and came up with this song that was just fantastic.
-It's really impressive.
-I would add it to my playlist as the song that's been worked on for months.
Anyway, he is someone that I-- I think is really cool.
So, is there an entry on this list, maybe more like
[unk] with like the rock sort of stuff or is that-- it's just rock and roll dead?
-And I have to do that.
Rock and roll is not dead.
-Well, can I talk-- okay.
I don't know if this is kind of your-- your kind of rock and roll but this is more indie.
A band from Liverpool who are pretty new on the same--
-They're babies really.
They're kind of a little bit like The Strokes.
-A bit like if The Strokes to me had a baby with The Stone Roses.
-I really like The Stone Roses.
They have a song called Get Away, which you can check out.
Basically four young guys who decided to stop messing around and actually make a serious music and you know, they have a nice kind of accessible indie rocks and you might like it.
It's not get yourself ready for a hockey game music that you would wanna add to your playlist,
-but I like them.
I think they're quite cool.
I'll kind of check them out.
-Another I really like and this is the complete opposite direction.
-But I wanna mention her because she's really cute.
I think I just bumped my chin on the mic.
-I hope that didn't create weird sounds.
-Betty, that's who?
Betty Who is a 22-year-old Aussie.
-And she had a bit of strike of luck because her song Somebody Loves You was used on a video that went viral on YouTube.
-Oh, right on.
-That was one of those proposals.
-I think, in fact, what was it?
It was the Home Depot, I don't know if you ever saw it.
-The Home Depot
marriage proposal between two guys and there was a big mob.
-I don't think I've seen that.
So, it was like two dudes getting married?
-One dude proposing to another dude.
-In Home Depot.
-I don't know why it happened in Home Depot.
-It could be like super Handyman.
-Or they're tools.
-No, they're very nice guys.
The humor gets better as I--
-No, I like it.
-As I get older--
-I like it.
-Anyway, her song was the song that they were all kind of dancing
to in this video.
-It was a flash mob thing.
-And it's a very cute if you can bring out the video to her song, somebody loves you, you'll feel and enjoy it.
Somebody loves you.
-And she is just this fun-- she has this energy about her which I really like and I don't know if you remember from the 80's 'cause maybe you weren't quite born yet.
But there was this song by an artist called Yazz, The Only Way is Up.
-Oh, I know the song Only You.
The only way is up, baby.
Anyway, really high energy, fun song with, you know-- and the way this girl sing the song, Betty Who, just reminds me of her.
-Yeah, right on.
-Anyway, lots of energy and she's also one of those who sings who doesn't take herself seriously, which is kind of an Australian thing to do to be honest.
-Yeah, like, know what you guys, don't take yourselves too seriously.
-Wow, did you see their splits?
-Yeah, she got-- she's rocking that butt too.
-Well that's not actually Betty, that's her--
-That's her butt double?
-That's her dancer.
-She kinda has like a
maniac type thing going on.
-This is like flash dance, right here.
-I love it.
Bring it back.
-Everyone keeps bringing that back.
J.Lo brought it back several years ago and--
-Well it's like, who doesn't wanna wear like, you know, sweatshirt with the neck cut out over like a sports bra, you know, looks comfy.
-So Shanon, I saw Joey Badass on here, which is probably my favorite artist on this list.
-Well, you told me about Joey Badass 'cause I didn't know a lot about Joey Badass.
-Oh, yeah, I think you're a fan of him too.
He's a rapper.
I think he's from
Flatbush in Brooklyn and he's sort of a young kid.
Is he part of a bigger collective?
-Yeah, Pro Era.
Just really good hip-hop.
He did a collaboration with somebody else on this list.
It was Maverick Sabre?
Have you heard of that person?
-I haven't heard this song specifically but it's these two by these Joey Badass and Maverick Sabre.
I'm gonna play it right now, it's called My Yout.
-Like my cousin Vin here, My U2 Youts.
So I heard first sort of these guys 'cause they're kind of affiliated with
ASAP Rocky, which is another like hip-hop collective that I'm into.
And yeah, Joey Badass kinda came out of there and I found out about him through my favorite music interviewer Nardwuar the Human Serviette, so I gotta shout him out.
He's a Canadian interviewer.
-What an interesting one.
-Have you heard about this Canadian, right?
-I've heard about him.
-He's this amazing musician.
He's like a journal-- music journalist, right?
-And he just interviews these artists and he comes with these really crazy references from their past and he brings them gifts like records
that their parents listened to or things from their childhood and then-- it's probably the most unique style of music interview that I've ever heard.
-It's pretty right.
-I heard about Joey Badass through him and I've kinda followed him ever since so--
-And he's on your list.
That is awesome.
-Tell me something.
What are your-- I mean you guys love music, different types of music--
I think we all probably like different types of music--
-I think, yeah.
I think so.
-which is what's great about music.
I like that.
-What are your hopes and dreams for 2014?
Like what would you like to see more of-- what would you like to see less on the same--
-It's a good question.
I just, you know, I always wanna be surprised.
-I feel like, I mean, and maybe that's for me like-- I'm definitely a little narrow minded when it comes to the genres and stuff I do like, like Imagine Dragons is a big stretch for me to even, you know, kind of put that into the playlist.
-I just like being surprised by things that I've never heard before then maybe take bits and pieces from genres that I'm in to.
-So for me, that's like, that's sort-- I've been on this like weird sort of
kick lately where I'm like digging bands that sounds like 90's grunge band, they're like-- but not grunge so much but just like sort of sludgy sort of stuff.
-So that's kind of what I've been into lately.
But I always like being surprised, you know, I'll-- like a band this year that really surprised me was the band called Foxy Shazam.
I don't know if you ever heard that.
-They're like very like happy sort of, you know, Queen-inspired sort of, you know, glamour rock which I was just like, "Wow, these guys can wear, they've got like a keyboard and horn section and I love them."
-So I like being surprised.
For me, that's what I hope for.
-Do you know there's an artist that I'd like you to listen to actually, just because this artist surprised me.
His name is Hozier H-O-Z-I-E-R.
-His real name is Andrew, I always like to tell you what the real name is 'cause it's important.
-I like that too.
Okay, Hozier is playing right now: Take Me To Church.
-He's an Irish thing, he's not a hardcore rock, I'm sorry.
Take Me To Church.
-I just thought that sounded like the perfect song for you for some reason.
-And this song has sort of become a bit of a viral hit and made him a little bit of this sensation in Ireland.
And there's something about his voice that I can't describe it.
It's not a-- it's a big voice but it's not as big as in really deep.
-It's one of those voices that you feel like it's filling every single nook and cranny in the room.
-It just has a beautiful tone.
-It is encompassing and it doesn't look like the kind of voice that comes out of him, and I always like that.
-Like sort of like Nick Cave.
-Like where is that voice coming from this inside this little dude?
But he's an interesting artist and I like him and I hope you'll pay attention to him.
-'Cause I only think that he might-- we think he has legs too.
-All right, cool.
-Again, I've seen him walk.
He has legs.
-That joke does not get old.
What about you Justin.
What-- to Shanon's question, what do you psyched about?
-You know, it's funny like that you mentioned the 90's 'cause I feel like everybody is referencing the 90's right now.
-And I kinda wish they would stop doing that.
You know like with Hine, for example.
-I'd like Hine.
They're obviously super talented vocalists and musicians and they come from musical background 'cause their whole family used to be in a band together.
But for some reason, I feel like they're appealing to the lowest common denominator right now like they could be playing something transcending.
But instead they're choosing to sort of sound like Fleetwood Mac and I get that--
-But that's all
they want to do.
-you know, it's obviously a huge influence.
But why wear that on the you sleeves so much, like why-- I just wish they would be more progressive and maybe we'll see that in the second album.
-And then you see things like Drake like that song--
Hold On We're Going Home.
-That sounds so 90's, you know, that one--
-Which means it sounds like Craig David.
-Yeah, I get it like 90's RNBs is huge with people I grew up of our generation and whatever is they're trying to make--
-Well 90's dance, pop music is the best.
-they're gonna go back to that reference.
-But it's also just a great song.
I like that song.
It is a good song.
-But think about--
-And do you know-- can I give you another bit of little fact [unk].
-That is actually one of our top most added songs to playlists called Sex.
-And it's not as stupid sexy song really like there is--
-lyrically, there are some very sexy songs.
-But that's this year, we've noticed that that's been added to sex playlist.
-But I mean--
-It's all right.
I didn't mean to-- something about sex.
-No, to your point-- you seemed like upset with that.
To me, the way I look at it is like there are certain things art, fashion, music-- they're cyclical.
-They go through this sort of like borrowing
from the past to move forward sort of thing.
-It's like one step back, two steps forward.
And I think that's-- you know, I appreciate that.
-Well, the 80's keeps getting.
-I'm not familiar with what you're specifically talking about.
-I just think for me, I would rather go back and listen to the artist that they drew inspiration from because, you know, like Hine sounds a-- well, okay.
So there's this other artist, Blood Orange.
You guys heard about this guy?
-I like Blood Orange, he's great.
He's like a local artist in New York.
He does like a 90's RNB thing, just fine.
It's super trendy right now but again,
another producer that who has done other projects, that sound different to this one.
-And I kinda wish he would focus on sort of pushing the genre forward a little bit.
I was hoping back.
-So tell him.
-Yeah, let's go over to Brooklyn right now.
-And be like dude, stop.
Just do what I want.
-I love all these music that I've said.
-Please, send them this week.
-I mean, like for me, in 2013, I also really gotten to like a lot you introduce me to come true.
I really like that sort of stuff then I watched Drive and it was like over, you know,
-and I was like, "Man I got that 80's senti sort of stuff.
I really got into
So I mean, I think there's nothing wrong with drawing influence from the past 'cause what else do you draw from.
-Like I mean, without like, you know--
-To me, well--
-history, we have nothing.
-Like we talk about movies getting rehashed all the time and their sequel to old movies they remake old movies and why--
-I mean, but that is way different.
That's like a cover in the sense of like music is an evolution.
-When they read you Godzilla in 2015 or 2014, that is just the same freaking movie with different actors.
-I think it's a Catch 22
'cause I then also don't like the new music coming out either.
-Well, that's no good.
-Like Avicii or electronic music.
-Well, you don't like Avicii?
-I just can't be happy.
-I like Avicii.
I think he's clever.
-I think I like Avicii.
I don't know if I'm thinking of the right guy.
I guess I don't hate him.
I'm never in a situation where I want to listen to that kind of music.
-Well, Wake me Up is his big [unk].
-Like I'm never.
I don't go to Raves anymore and I'm not like into huge clubs.
-I don't think there are Raves anymore.
-That's probably, yeah.
I guess not.
-I never do--
-You weren't a Rave girl?
-That's a Rave--
-Smell glow sticks in your mouth like that.
-But if it's Avicii, I don't know if that's really Rave, Rave music, you know what I mean, it's so-- it has such a strong pop feel and actually that's why I like Avicii 'cause he-- every song that he produces has a different singer and a very different singer.
-Yeah, that's cool.
-Singers that you haven't necessarily heard of but different-- all different genres like even those he's got a blue grassy singer on one of his songs and there are all very good.
-So they pull you into this song with-- he pulls you into the songs
with these great vocalists.
-I don't see the songs as true hardcore house music though at all.
It's just that kind of accessible EDM music, which is pretty popular.
-Maybe I've watched too many commercials that features--
That would do it.
-So what about you before we gotta say goodbye.
What are you looking forward to personally in 2014?
-I'm looking forward to-- I've just started to really enjoy the whole playlist thing.
-I didn't-- I was pregnant and I had a baby as you know, and I didn't
But now I'm looking forward to just creating list of songs that I really, really love and that I can just put on and not feel like I need to skip things.
-So, I mean that's kind of a boring answer to your question.
But that's what I'm looking for.
Personally, I love music that has a big of a jazz.
-There was actually a band in New York called, I think they're called the Hot Sardines.
I keep calling them the Bad Sardines.
-Hot, bad-- you know.
-I'm pretty sure it's the Hot Sardines.
They play at the top of the Standard Hotel.
I've been there.
-Which has an amazing view, if you've been
-and the toilets have an amazing view.
-Yeah, Le Bain right?
-You can sit on the toilet.
-I thought it was like a Jacuzzi in there and everything.
Well that's another place.
They performed at the top.
-It's like the 18th floor up there--
Anyway, this band is like a four-piece quartet that just plays kind of happy, sort of loungey Jazz music.
I like that kind of stuff.
-I'm into it.
-I'm into it.
-It sounds good.
-That's what I like to play at home.
-Well, this has
-Thanks for having me.
I love your new sets.
-Thank you so much.
Thank you for being here.
-I don't wanna leave.
Can I take a nap on this big boomerang?
-I mean it's yours.
-We'll dim the lights and you'll be right at home.
-I will come back just like a boomerang does.
-And it'll fix your back problems.
Look at that, brought it all back--
-I like that.
-with the Australian metaphors and whatnot.
-You know what else I like.
-Gifts from our listeners.
Before we go, absolutely.
-Can we show you something quick?
So there's two orders of this.
I wanted to show off this which we got in the mail yesterday.
this out you guys.
-And we put this right way up.
-This is a 1/5th scale model of the Back to the Future 2 DeLorean.
-Complete with Mr. Fusion.
-Does-- did the doors kinda open?
-I hope so.
-Let's go in style.
-Yeah, we're gonna open that up a little later and have it on tomorrow.
-Why is it out of the box?
-'Cause we wanted to show it like in its pristine condition.
You know how it is.
-Is that what we do?
I don't actually but if that's how it is, I'll run with it.
-So who do we have to thank?
This is awesome--
-This is from our friend--
Palo Alto from Albert.
-Let's do the switching of the names invitation.
-But he listens to the show every day with his daughter Emily and his son Ethan.
So I wanted to give them a shout out and thank you so much guys for the gift.
We really appreciate it.
-Thank you guys.
You guys kick ass.
-It's very, very cool.
-We're gonna have to do something about that one though because we have a lego version of the DeLorean.
-They're gonna have to battle it off for--
-I think they're gonna wanna end up fighting and really just to showing each other--
-I think I know who's gonna win.
I got my money on this one.
-And there's another order of business
we have to take care of that comes to us in the form of a new CNET contest.
-Yeah, that's right.
So we're having our Winner Wonderland, you see what we did there, Winner Winter.
-Winner Wonderland sweepstakes and this is what we're giving away free appliances for seven days a week.
-Man, did you miss out on having to buy that blender.
-The Vitamix blender is actually in here which you will get for free.
I swear, I'm not voting out myself.
-You got checked.
-Yeah, I know.
-You got hosed.
-I could have gotten this.
-Did you just buy one?
-I bought a really expensive blender but yeah, it's great.
-Is it a Vitamix?
-It is a Vitamix.
You know what--
-I've got the Vitamix.
-This is why Shanon is on the show.
I'm a Vitamix lady.
Every day my Vitamix gets whipped into action.
-What are you blending?
-Bisques, ice cream.
Look at him, he's bisque.
Feel like Ronko.
-You know, anything you want.
-I just make smoothies, the green drinks and stuff.
-Oh, that sounds delicious.
-We should have a Vitamix show specifically where we just make food-- good cooking show.
-They're very noisy though.
They're super noisy.
-I wear earplugs
when I'm using mine.
-They come with the earplugs actually.
-It's really loud.
-You know that.
-No they don't.
So this is going on until December 16th and you just enter by putting your information into a site that will put in-- that will post in the blog today.
So just go to cnet.com/the404.
Check out all the stuff that we're giving away from December 10th through the 16th, all kinds of smart appliances and things that you need for sure.
-You know, stuff like that connected Flowerpots and electronic doorknob
locks and things like that, the Nest, which is super popular on CNET right now.
-Yeah, Nest is like, really huge now.
-All right, awesome.
-So make sure you do that.
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Shanon is amazing 2014 Spotify list and all the other good stuff in the show today.
So head on over to cnet.com/the404 for all of that.
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So make sure you do that.
Thank you so much for everything.
-Thanks Mom for the
-Hey, you know, she was a hippie.
She was into it, you know, Shanon is one "N".
-She was just lazy.
-You'll be back next year, right?
-I'd love to be back next year though.
-All right, well, you have yourself a fantastic holiday and new year.
-Same with you guys.
-And thanks for being here for our little review.
-I hope you get another Vitamix.
-Oh, thank you.
-The dual Vitamix.
-I don't know if there's enough power here--
-Bisque and the smoothie at the same time.
-You could do dinner and dessert at the same time.
-You can make truffles with your Vitamix.
-That's pretty ballsy.
-You can grind rocks into dust.
-It's so sharp.
Did you know that?
-It's so sharp.
Do not get your hand in there.
I love that you know with the Vitamix.
-His new-found relationship.
-I know there's a reason I like too.
-That's gonna do it for us.
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Our guest as we continue tomorrow's Steve Guttenberg's on the show and then Friday, Alex Winter will be here talking about his new movie so I'm very excited for all of that.
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Make sure you tune in to those.
again Shanon Cook.
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-With these eyes.
That was awesome.
I'm not gonna get sick to that.
We'll see you guys tomorrow.