Ep. 1299: Where we disrupt your transmissionBridget's back on the show to tell us why Florida just banned all computers in an effort to curb senior citizens from playing Bingo. We'll also cycle through the rest of the rundown that includes rowdy Google interns, hacking the Emergency Alert System,...
-All right. What's going on, everyone? It's Tuesday, July 9th, 2013. You're tuned in to The 404 Show on CNET. I'm Justin Yu. -I'm Richard Peterson. -I'm I'm Bridget Carey. -Yeah. It's a beautiful morning. -Oh, yes. -It is. -It's under 80 degrees this morning when I woke up in New York, -Yeah. -which is great because the past few weeks has been pretty brutal. -I love the heat. -Yeah. -I [unk] a bit. -Everyone in the office does seem a little happier. It's a little sunnier today and I think big reason for that is because Jeff Bakalar is not in the office. -But he's not here-- -He will just complain about the heat and-- -Yeah. -Yeah he probably would complain about it. -Exactly. He usually leaves this like negative stench, right? Whenever we go, there's like a black cloud that always follows him. -This morning, when I came in, it was great like the birds were singing. It was like I was in the opening of a Disney movie and [unk] bonjour, bonjour. -Bonjour. -Papi got other cubes and stuff to say hi to me, like hi. So, it's a little bit more cheaper this morning. -But Jeff will be back tomorrow. Ariel also is not here though he was supposed to be. -Yeah, he was supposed to be. -Why he got canceled from LA back to New York. So, we got Richard back on the board to help us today. Thanks for helping us, buddy. So, what's going on? -Oh, light. -Light. -That thing. -Bridget, you're from Florida. -Oh, yeah. -Is that true? -It's a very exciting state. -Yeah. -There's always great stuff going on there. -We could not make up the opening story for today's episode and Bridget, you sort of tuned me into the story and I want you to explain it because it concerns your hometown. -Yes. Okay. So-- -You home state, not your town. -Well, yeah, yeah. Home state of Florida always has great stories that you can't-- exactly you can't make this one up. So, legislature over there in Florida, wanted to ban gambling in terms of this little internet cafes where people would go to gamble. There's a lot of them popping up around Florida. And so to ban it, they quickly drafted this law that would say it would outlaw illegal slot machines and it defined illegal slot machines as any system or network of devices that can be used in the game of chance. So, because they did it so broadly, -Uh-hmm. -it pretty much banned every computer or smartphone or anything that connects us to internet-- -Right. -because it can be used in a game of chance. -Even if you can't win money or anything. -Right. I mean, it actually took it too far and so, there's another group that suing and saying, "We gotta throw this out. This is pretty nuts." And the drama has been going on for a couple of days now to the point where those who run these small-- these small areas, they're getting upset and they're going, you know what, if you're gonna ban that, you should also ban Dave & Busters and Chuck E. Cheese because there's also you know, in the wording of a law it says I'm trying to pull it up here. -But let's back up really quick. -Yeah. -Because I wanna explain the story a little more in depth too because I think this is the funnier part of it, -Okay. -is that, you know, the headlines for the story if you read any newspaper, they're all talking about how there are these underground gambling rings? -Right. -And it sort of reads like maybe they're backyard poker games or someone is playing like Pai Gow in a basement and betting thousands of dollars on this. -It's a little, yeah. -In reality though, these are internet cafes that also have gambling machines and games on the computers you can play. But the people engaging with them aren't young people. They're all senior citizens. -Yeah. They're senior arcades, I mean, it's not completely I would say, you know, they kinda go there in some cases, -Yeah. -knowing that it's a place to just, you know, gonna computer and gamble. -But-- -And now these places are like saying, we're just a legit internet cafÃ©. -Right. -But a lot of places are in Florida known for that retirement community who wants to get-- go out somewhere. -Right. -And they have different names depending on what part of state you wanna go to. -They're mostly social clubs. -Yeah. -I think that's what you could-- that's a more appropriate name for them because they're not slot machines or anything like that. They have computer games. One of them was called Lucky Shamrocks and Captain Cash. They're pretty basic in terms of gambling. -I've seen them in like strip malls like-- -Yeah. -walk in and gamble and you're like, it's not a real casino but okay. -Right. -I've never been inside one myself though, I've just seen them you know, on the side of like strip malls but-- -Who's complaining about this kind of thing? -Well, because they wanna be able to, I guess, you know, have a little more control over and then just ban the smaller ones. -Right. -I mean, I think there's a lot of casinos in Florida that run you know, with like this-- the [unk] Indians have some, you know, it's-- -Yeah. -There is gambling that's why they just wanna ban this but oh, my gosh, the wording it's crazy. They actually-- if I get it, so if I get specific in here, it's any sort of machine that has a game of chance. -Uh-hmm. -So, that's why they're even going, all right, you're gonna ban us then you better ban the kids machines. You better ban Dave & Busters, and so there's a law suit that's saying that they need to be taken down. -Right. -And one of the mayors in the general area in [unk] is like I am not gonna go arrest Chuck E. Cheese in front a bunch of 6-year olds and others are going, well, you can have it two ways. It's very ridiculous but either way, they-- any system or network of devices, that shows you how tech savvy lawmakers always are, aren't they? -Right. Yeah. It's a very general rule. Yeah, you're right. Again, it's any device that you can access to play a game of chance. So, I would argue that even going into somewhere like a Starbucks where they offer free WiFi, right? Like that could enable you to get on to a device and then gamble using whatever app you want. -Yeah. If you wanna say that, then yes, Starbucks is now illegal. -Yeah. -Legalize everything, everyone. -Right. They've already shutdown a thousand of these places though and I think this is what makes me the saddest, is that you have these displaced senior citizens now that used to gather at the social clubs. I think the most depressing quote that I read from one of these newspapers was that, he said that most of the people playing these games go for the bingo which is legal. -Uh-hmm. -Right because there's no money-- well, there's money involved there but it's a set prize, right? It's not gambling chance. -Uh-hmm. -They go for the bingo but then they stay for the coin operated gambling machines afterward while they wait to get picked up by their younger family members. So, now, you're just gonna see all people wandering around, getting hurt at around the city in Florida unfortunately. -Oh, Florida. -And have refugee centers for senior citizens. -Florida always has some drama going on. I know it. It's like how much was it really hurting, you know, but-- -Yeah. It just seems like a very bleak story to me. No one wins here, right? -Everyone. -Everybody's-- -I remember-- the saddest things when we go to Las Vegas for CES very January and you see people that yeah, you know, this will go play gambling and playing games in the big casinos, right? Like the luxurious, the Excaliburs, whatever. And-- but then you see these smaller gambling machines like these little poker, electronic poker machines and slot machines and random places like Quick Stops and 7-Eleven. -Yeah. -It's weird to me. -And there are still people playing those at 3:00 to 4:00 in the morning. It's crazy, like all hours in the night and still we're playing that. It's just the single old person, this lonely person in a quick 24-hour Quick Stop. Just playing the slot machine over and over again. -Yeah. -It's super sad to watch. -And at the airport too. -Yeah. -Like they're on their way out. -Exactly. -They just have to get that last gaming. -The airport in Vegas is even crazier because you know, of course, in Vegas you can smoke indoors, which includes-- -Right. -airports as well but not everyone wants to smell that smoke in the airport. So, they actually have these sectioned off areas but the walls that divide them from everyone else are clear. So, they're just basically smoking in this bubble that everyone else can look into its transparent and their gambling at the same time. It's like a museum of sad people. But you must see that a lot growing up in Florida, right? -Oh, yeah. You know, in fact, one of the big casinos out there over the Hard Rock casino, this is one of places where everyone always hangs out where I grew up, yeah. -Yeah. -So, it's like-- it's just part of the norm but I mean, as far as Vegas goes that was pretty crazy though. -Yeah. We should go to a Chuck E. Cheese in New York. Is there one close by? -I've seen one near where I live in Queens. So, you can go as an adult, it's that cool. Just keep it cool, yeah. -Without kids. You're just gonna go and like yell at random kids and the people thing you're with them. -You can. Yeah. If you act like you belong. I mean, of course, it gets excited when you start pushing kids out of the way. -Yeah. -I gotta a stack of quarters, can't wait your turn. -Did you guys go-- did you go to a lot of Chuck E. Cheese when you're grownup, Richard? -Every once in a while, yeah. But that's what Dave & Busters is for adults, that's Chuck E. Cheese for adults. -This is true. -There's one in Times Square. -You don't have to be so ashamed when you go in drunk. -Yeah. -[unk] the Chuck E. Cheese. -Oh, it gotta help you if you visit New York and go to Dave & Busters in Times Square, though, right? Jesus Christ. -I've been there a couple of times. -Yeah but you live here that's different. -Right. -And you probably went for ironic reasons to not because you're genuinely looking for a first time fair. -Gonna kill time for the movies, yeah. -Yeah. -I remember they would have all these different theme nights at the local Dave & Busters where I grew up in Southern California. There's like the Asian night and there was like Christian night and things like that. I don't know. Maybe we need to have adult night. -Yeah. -Or kids night. What's the best thing that you guys ever got from Chuck E. Cheese for the prizes? Because I never got anything good and you know, I was always impatient. -Well, yeah. -Can save up 10,000 tickets for a video game. -Right. It depends on your style of investment. -Yeah. -Lots of little toys, immediate gratification or are you gonna bet that you're gonna come back? See it's gambling involve right there too. -That's true. -So, I went for the lots of littles. -Yeah, me too. -Yeah. -Yeah, me too. -Yeah, no patience whatsoever. -Yeah. And there's like build-it-yourself airplane, you throw it once, it's broken. There you go. -Yeah, like those balsa airplanes, exactly. -Yeah. -And then I had a lot of those Chinese finger traps too that-- -Love those. -never ending fun because I always knew the secret. -Right, I know. -Yoyos, right? And then like rubber pencil toppers. -Anything with googly eyes. -Oh, it's true. -I can't resist. -That's true but the pizza at Chuck E. Cheese was the best, right? And I'm glad that we could talk about this while Jeff isn't here because I know he'll try to kick my ass first. It's good. -Actually, I'd have to go back to be able to verify that statement. I don't remember being that great. Even as a kid I was picky. -That was delicious. -I was like, it doesn't taste like the mall pizza. -Oh. -It's like you only judge a pizza when you're [unk] 6. -I like Sbarro. You go to Sbarro in Times Square after you hit up that Dave & Busters. -Oh, yeah. -I had. -You had? Tell me it was during hurricane Sandy when nothing else is open. -It's like desperation. Actually, I went to the one by Macy's. I'm like, I'm so hungry. I just need now. Like I-- for me, food doesn't always become a big thing. It's just like, just feed me, I don't care where it comes from and then like during the, you know, meal, you kinda have that-- like I regret this decision. -As you're salting it with your tears. I'm not upset with that. I'm not a food snob so I'm not gonna hold it against you. -Yeah. -Yeah. -One of the first times I came to New York like years ago, I had Sbarro and when I went back home, like my brother-- I was just like that. I mean, do this because I can. I went home and my brother is like making fun of me because he's like, did you eat any New York pizza like, I have this really good-- -It's called Sbarro. -Wait a minute, follow me. It's one of the mug dummy. -That's awesome. It was probably pretty tasty, though, if it's your first like initial slice. -Yeah. -Those ones at Sbarro are like-- they're thick crust pizzas, right? -Yeah. They're usually thick. -New York thin crust. Whatever. It's all good to me. I'm not gonna hold it against you either, Richard. -Thank you. -All right. Well, on the subject of irresponsible uses of technology, let's talk about-- -When we [unk] on the subject of yours-- -That's what the theme of the show is. It's good point. Let's talk about Google interns though. So, around this time every year, Google hires hundreds, over 500 interns to start working in June, right? To start their summer program. -As most places do, you know, school is out, you get an intern flex. -Or a couple hundred, you know, we can't even get one here, Google has 500, whatever. Where do they put all these interns, though, do you think? -Well, some sort of housing because they gave you everything at Google. -Yes. That is-- -God forbid they give you any responsibility as a human being to do anything for yourself but you know. -Yeah. I agree. -It's convenient. -Well, they're usually given a housing statement, right? So, they're just given money [unk] means money. They're just given money to spend on whatever they want which includes living expenses, which includes housing, right? But this year, they actually started doing something new. This summer, Google is giving them all the option to live in a shared apartment complex in North San Jose close to where the Google campus is. This apartment complex is called Crescent Village. So, check this out. This is what it looks like. Rent fully paid, the rent ranges from about 1880 to 3375 a month. -That's crazy. -Right? For 2-bedroom apartments. It's all in North San Jose and it's totally kitted out. It's got swimming pools, theaters, you know, hot tubs, etcetera, things like that. And so, you can imagine these 20, 21 something year old interns are really taking advantage of all the amenities. They're having parties and the residents aren't very happy. Their neighbors have started complaining that the Google interns are starting [unk]. They're playing too many games outside and making noise. So much noise that they can hear them over their air conditioners and that's causing a problem. -Well, I'm gonna say that they're in their 20s or probably throwing college level parties. -Yeah. -And I agree with them, you know, it's kind of ridiculous that all of a sudden the-- here is the mentality. You have summer off at school, suddenly a company gives you everything you need, -Right. -and there's nothing to worry in the world and there's no real worry that you're gonna lose this internship because it's over anyways in 3 months. -Right. -And you're just gonna party, party, party, party with a couple hundred hot people that are also in the same swanky place. -Right. -Oh, my God. It's like the rest of people are disastrous so no wonder like people are complaining. -Right. -But I don't know. I just read these stories and I get kind of work though because I never heard of an internship being so cushy. I mean, internships are kinda meant to like kick your butt, they're close to be humbling. You gotta learn how to make it in the real world, -Yeah. -you know, this ain't kid time anymore because it's supposed to wake you up. You know, hey, you're about to go in the real world, here's a little taste. And this is not a sponsored college party but-- -Right. -I understand it's having fun but they're-- but I don't know what they're gonna do about that if maybe Google won't use the same apartment complex next time. -Maybe spread the mouth, you know, -Yeah. -don't have over 400 employees in one apartment complex. -Yeah because it just becomes a dorm-- -Yeah, exactly. -without an RA. -But you know, obviously, to work at Google, to be an intern at Google, you gotta go through a pretty stringent interview process. You gotta be a really smart person. Don't you think that the people being hired by Google would be smarter than the average student of 20-21? Maybe they wouldn't be having as a loud of a party, right? I don't know. -Yeah because you think you had to be-- -Which one do you think trumps the other? Twenty-one or being an intern at Google? -Oh, just because you're smart it doesn't mean you know how to party still. -That's true. -Like I came from a party school, so yeah like I know that. It just makes you wanna party harder. That is so much. -That's the point. Yeah. If you're that smart-- -You wanna go wild. -maybe you don't have to study because you're just naturally intelligent. -No, no. More like you've been held up in high school for so long being a goody-two-shoe that you just go wild-- -Oh, Hercules syndrome. -and you're so excited. And you kinda also get in the spirit of your colleagues. So, everyone influences each other like a domino effect. -Yeah, yeah, 100%. There's two sides of the story, though. So, one is the neighbors that are complaining. They're pretty uptight. One says, "They dart out into the street, they jaywalk all the time and I have to be very careful when I'm driving." That doesn't sound like very crazy party [unk] to me. -It doesn't sound very crazy. I know. The complaints are not well represented probably of why you should-- -No, they're jaywalkers. Darting out into the middle of the street, eating pop rocks and drinking cokes. -I don't know. Like it doesn't sound very intense to me. I could deal with that. -Yeah. -The other side is that you know, the neighbors, some of the neighbors are actually defending them. right? They're saying that you know, there's a lot of parties, I can hear a lot of noise but they're good kids. They are group of good kids and you can't even hear them over the air conditioner. So, it's a little inflated perhaps. -Yeah. Just keep it on at night. No one should care beyond, you know. -Yeah. Guess how much Google interns get paid a month. Not all of them because obviously it's a sliding scale depending on what section you're working for but the highest paid Google interns in the engineering team, how much you think they get paid per month? -I can't imagine. I think it paid it all for my internship. -Yeah, right. Any amount would be good but this is crazy. -What? More than $30,000? -A month? -No, sorry. Always thinking like for the-- okay. All right. A month-- what? Like 5 grand. -That's actually really close. -Yeah. -I would not have guessed that much. I would have said like a grand, not even, and that would have been impressive compared to what I made at CNET during my internship. -Yeah because considering you are getting food, that is part of it. -Yeah. -So, I'm surprised it's so high, you know, -Right. -because they're already pitching in for your life cost. -Right. So, you don't have to pay for an apartment. -Right. -The highest Google interns are paid $6,000 a month. -And when you calculate all the other costs, it's really more than that. -Yeah. -Wow. -Isn't that insane? -And then not all of them are gonna make it into Google and they're gonna go cry to their mommies and daddies because the real world is so hard. -Yeah, right. -But we'll have to wish them the best. All right. -Yeah. -Enjoy, enjoy while you can, kids. -Yeah. God, we needed an intern right here. -I know. I need that internship. That's a lot of money. -Yeah. I think we should quit here and go work for Google. -Now, I know why they made that movie. -Yeah. Did you guys watch that movie? -No. -It came out last month but no one talked about it. It's kind of sad, what a flop. I think only the Google employees watched that movie. -I'm gonna catch up but I'm just-- I'm enjoying my summer outside. -Yeah. I agree. -So, I'll catch up on a rainy day. -Yeah. I agree. All right. Well, let's move on to something a little more terrifying. Now that all the fun in games are [unk] get back and scaring the crap out of you. So, earlier this week, a new story. A security alert was published by researchers at a security firm called IOActive. And in this update, it's super terrifying. They're warning broadcasters that work for the US Emergency Broadcast System. You know, that thing that like broadcast live TV to like let you know-- right. -Kinda like an AOL dial up but a little more worse. -Can you that acapella thing again? -I don't want to hear that. -It is the-- it is just a test to the Bridget alert system. -That's for when what happens? -I don't know. I'm annoyed. -Yeah. Well, anyway, so they're warning that emergency broadcast system is vulnerable to attack and not just attacks but take over that let hackers pretty much broadcast bogus news. -Well, it's all technology. So, by now I'm sure they figure out how to hack it, right? -Yeah. But here's the thing, it's that the Emergency Alert System is all pretty much handled by this one company, right? And that company recently published a firmware update but in that firmware update, they accidentally put out their SSH key. So, if you know anything about routers, modems and networks, you'll know that the SSH key basically lets admins log in to the server and they'll change whatever they want. The login information, the password details and the message that gets broadcast when there's an emergency, right? -All right. -So, that's super scary that someone could do that because in every superhero movie we've seen, the evildoer always lets everyone know what's happening and how they're gonna take over the world through a public broadcast, right? Like a big face appears on the monitors in Times Square. -Yeah. -Everyone's TVs start changing, people are unplugging things, trying to figure it out but they can't because it's been hacked. And that's about to be in real life. -Well, at least-- wait, hasn't there been a hack about like zombies invading? -Yeah. -Like at least I was joking, right? Like if it's not, you can get some serious panic attacks on people. -Yeah. -Though it really scares me about the whole systems when I have a TV on at night and fell asleep at the couch and it wakes me up at 4 in the morning. -Right, with that emergency thing. -It's the only thing that I ever associated with my alarm clock if I feel asleep in front of the TV. -Yeah. Yeah, that February thing was hilarious because I have friends in California that were watching TV when this happened. -Oh, that's where it happened? -Yeah. So, it happened in California, New Mexico, Michigan and Tennessee and this was back in February and same thing, hackers took over the Emergency Alert System and they broadcast a fake zombie apocalypse warning. Basically that we're all gonna die. And this has actually brought up a video that I'm glad you brought it up because I wanted to show everyone what you would have seen, had you been watching TV in February in one of those states. So, let's just watch this. This is an episode of Steve Wilkos. -My favorite show. -So, it's midday. Or is it middle of the night? -Midday. -Okay. -Right? Like this stuff online broadcast at like 2:00 PM for Housewives and House Husbands. But look, check this out. This is what you would have seen. I'll only turn it on up here. -Civil authorities in your area have reported that the bodies of the dead are rising from their graves and attacking the living. Follow the messages on screen that will be updated as information becomes available. Do not attempt to approach or apprehend these bodies as they are considered extremely dangerous. -Oh, man. Oh, man. -It's awesome. -If you're watching the Steve Wilkos Show at home at 2:00 PM in the afternoon, chances are you're buying into this thing 100%. Right? -Oh. -You're just killing all your neighbors. -Oh, my God. Oh, this is-- yeah. It is scary. They're going to find a way to patch this. -Yeah. Something has to happen. -I can't even get alerts right on my cellphone, you know, that's taking forever. This will take forever to-- -That's scary. What would you guys broadcast if you had control over every single airway in the world? -Oh. -What can you do? -That's a lot of power. -I know. -Probably like this is the song that-- -You will play the Lamb Chop Song. -That's perfect. -Driving everyone insane. -Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. -The entire world would go insane. People would blow their brains out. I would broadcast the Brown Note. Have you guys heard about the Brown Note? -No. -It comes up every once in a while in the show because it's this theoretical frequency of audio, right? That's so low. -And makes your stomach rumble. -That's so low. So, usually, the human ear can hear about like 20 hertz frequencies, right? -Uh-hmm. -The Brown Note plays at 5 hertz. So, it's super low. And they say if you play the Brown Note, it's so low that it causes humans to lose their bowels immediately upon hearing it. -Really? -Yeah. -I don't think you'll lose it. Maybe you'll get a rumble in your tummy. -Maybe. There's only one way to find out and you can look up YouTube videos of Brown Note. I tried it. I don't believe the YouTubes all the time. -In the bathroom and it didn't work. -Did it work? Oh. -It didn't work. It didn't work. But maybe I'm not broadcasting at the right frequency. -Yeah. -Try with children. They can hear better than you and I can. -Oh, yeah. -Because we've been listening to music. -Yeah. -When I was younger I could tell that if a TV was black on screen but still on. -Yeah. -It would drive me insane. I would like, teacher, teacher, please turn it off. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. -Right. -And I say, I can hear anything because you know, we haven't been all damaged by a rock and roll yet. -Yeah. -That would be pretty awesome to make the whole world crap their paints. -Yeah. -It'd be very messy. I would-- yeah, I'd rather-- I don't know if I can just test it out on some random kid though and tells you that. -[unk] very well. All right. Well, let's move on before we get little too filthy. So, let's talk about Tumblr. This is a little bit of a heart warming story, which is a good follow up to what we just talked about. But yeah, so this is a story that came out on July 4th last Thursday. And well, most of us were sort of looking for the best fireworks to watch and the best spot to get to and to watch parades and whatnot. There's one 21-year-old woman that was furiously scouring the internet and she was on Tumblr specifically because she has lost her best friend. This is the story about a 21-year-old woman named Mitchie a.k.a. Tumblr user likesdinos, right? -Okay. -And apparently and maybe I should just read this message in its entirety because this is directly from her-- this is very sad. Perhaps you could put this up on the screen while I read it. This is her message she put on her Tumblr last Thursday. "Hello. I'm an adult with an anxiety disorder and I lost my comfort item. My bunny is named Blue Bunny and she's my most important thing in the world. I would go without water sooner than I would give her up. I got her 18 years ago and she hasn't slept without me since. Her ears and paws are threadbare in places and her head is floppy and soft. I got off the Amtrak bust stop in La Crescenta, California on the north side Honolulu Avenue, west of Lowell Avenue. Please, please signal boost this. I have contacted the bus company but they haven't found her and I'm scared." So, her best friend that we were talking about earlier is actually her pet bunny. Her pet stuff bunny. -And it's like missing an eyeball. -Yeah and so loved up. -And it's pretty-- oh, my God. -Is that a tail? What is this part right here? -Yes, it's a tail. -It's a tail. -But why is the tail in the front? -No. It's turning aside, sleeping on its belly. -Oh. Okay. That-- -Get your mind out of the gutter. -When you look at [unk]. Anyway, the back-- yeah, so that's the backstory here, is that she lost her favorite comfort item, her toy and she needs it to get through her social anxiety. So, five days later, right? It's been five days, that Tumblr post we're looking at on her blog likesdinos.tumblr.com has gotten 70,000 notes. -Wow. -Notes are like reblogs and things like that. Seventy thousand notes from other Tumblr users. And the search paid off because this morning, there's a lead. She said that she found a lead on perhaps finding her pet bunny and maybe she'll get it back. So, we'll update you on this story. But more importantly, this experience, sort of spun other Tumblr users to create their own blog and that blog is called Adults with Stuffed Animals. And I thought we could go through a few of these right now because it's something that I'm sure we all share at least, you know, formally-- -Oh, yeah. -with our own previous dolls or dolls that you may have right now in your bed. -Oh, yeah. I love stuffed animals. -Yeah, of course you do. So, look, check this one out. Here's one from July 9th. A comfort animal Polka Dottie. I love this kind of thing because it tells a really rich history in one product, right? Like all of these guys have-- -It looks like a papple. -These guys have a-- -It looks like a papple. -Weird looking. -Yeah. -Yeah, it looks like a papple. -And sometimes it's even harder to tell what kind of animals these are because they are missing ears and so discolored and things like that. I like some of them are just blankets too. Like they're just really [unk] blankets. Here's one Lemie, being the nickname for Lemon Drop. It's great. These are all adults or some kids too but mostly adults that have had their stuffed animals for decades. -Probably deceased and-- -Super deceased, yeah. -You know, I feel bad for her because if someone found this and didn't know she was looking for it, that's totally trash. -Yeah. Yeah, 100%, no one would touch that. Like a little puff right here. Is that a unicorn? Adorable. So, what do you think? What was your favorite stuffed animal when you were a kid? -Oh, I had-- well, I had a couple as a kid. I mean, I had like a care bear I used to wrap up, like and take with me everywhere. -Uh-huh. -Even now though, I have one that was Build-A-Bear. So, it's a-- it's Wolf Solo. It's a wolf dressed up as Han Solo. -Oh. -And I feel bad when I leave the room and it's like upside down the floor. I just like-- I can't go to work and I'm sorry I knocked you over like I-- it's like a toy story syndrome I got. -Do you still sleep with any of those dolls in your bed right now? -Yeah. I do. -You do? -Sometimes. It depends. Wolf Solo sometimes, you know, is my buddy. -And you grip him and everything like that. -Yeah, yeah. -[unk] a good husband. -Yeah. -That's adorable. What about you, Richard? You got any mainstays in your bed? -I do have a pillow pet. -Do you really? -Someone gave it to me not too long ago. -And which one is it? -It's the cat. -Okay. Is there a name for that cat? -No. -You didn't name your pet? -No. -What? Savage? -I know. -You gotta name that guy. Miss Sassy Cat, I believe is its official name as I'm seeing here. -Miss Sassy Cat? -Is it the brown one or the black one? -Let's see. It's the black. -The black one, huh. -Yeah. The black and purple. -Can you explain to our adult listeners what the pillow pet is? Because I'm very confused right now. -You don't know what a pillow pet is? It's a pillow, it's a pet, it's a pillow pet. -Yeah, I get that smart. But I'm asking you what's the deal with like its paws, do the paws Velcro'd together? -Yeah. The paws Velcro'd together. -Okay. -And that-- so it's the pet. When the paws are Velcro'd together, yeah, like that. It looks like a pet. But then you undo it and then it [unk] out. -Right. -And then it's a pillow. -And you sleep on it. -You can sleep on. And they're really soft. -Do you use this as a pillow? -I've used it just for like naps or like for I'm watching TV and I need something, lying on I remember. -Well that's cute too. -I used to have a California Raisin doll that I kept with me everywhere. -Oh, man. -Yeah. You guys know what those are, right? -Yeah. -Yeah. -And if you're too young you might not remember but the California Raisins used to be a Doo-wop group. -[unk]. -Yeah and they were-- they basically did these singing commercials for raisins, I guess. -And also your public library. -Yeah. That's right. Yeah. I forgot that they did that. So, I had a stuffed animal of a California Raisin that I really love. Let's see if I can find a picture of it. Yeah, this is exactly the one that I had. Kinda terrifying though. I had a little-- -I know this [unk]. -Yeah. It had like a tuxedo on and everything like that. I used to make it sing and dance. -Yeah, I had a little figurine. -Oh, yeah. -Yeah. -Like action figures? -Yeah of the California Raisins. -Oh, oh, right. Do they have like bendable legs and things too? -Yeah. Yeah, they had opposable limbs. I remember that. -It's like a collimation kind of thing anyway, so-- -Right. -Right? -Yeah. -Or was it animated? I can't remember. -We're really dating ourselves. -I don't know. -I also had an Alvin from Alvin and the Chipmunks doll with a big like scarlet letter A on his chest. That was really fun too. What other dolls that you guys have? -God, I had too much. -Cool conversation, guys. -Yeah. -I was a big Barbie collector to the point-- -It's relevant to the story, Richard. -Yes. -Stop scuffing. Okay? -I had a 1.30 Barbies in one time. -That's a lot of Barbies. -But that's because I asked everyone in my kindergarten class on my birthday. My 6th year birthday they gave me a Barbie and everyone went back to their parents and said she wants a Barbie and I actually got 30 Barbies. -Wow. -Wow. -It was pretty amazing to me and my mom is like shaking her head and I'm the happiest ever been and she's like, we're going toys arrest and you can exchange the money for easy [unk]. -Nice. -So, it all worked out. But I was like, why can't I have 3 gymnast barbies and 5 you know, astronaut Barbies? -Man. You're really drinking that Kool-Aid huh. -Just love those Barbies. -Oh and you're six. Yeah. You have a kind of a focused, you know, you're always focused. -Yeah. -I also had all the Power Rangers. I was begging for that too. -Oh, really? -Yeah. Yeah. -[unk] Power Rangers as well. -Yeah. I love that stuff. -All right. Well, that's gonna do it for us today. It's kind of a short show but is there anything else you guys wanted to bring up before we take off? -Just watch CNET Update. -Yeah. -Plug. -Nice. And then where can people follow you if they wanna check you out on Twitter? -Oh, yeah. Twitter @BrigetCarey, my full name. -Uh-hmm. -And cnet.com/update to get your 3-minute news. Three minutes of all the news you need. -Beautiful. Richard, you got anything to pimp? -No. -Okay. -Not really. -Pimping ain't easy. -Well, follow me on Twitter richlpete. -Yeah, do that. 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