Dialed In #189: AT&T merger under fireA blocked AT&T/T-Mobile merger may not be good for customers, we weigh in on the latest Windows phones, and oops, Apple lost an iPhone again.
It is Thursday the first of September this is filed and -- cellphone podcast I'm just about court in San Francisco. Here with Kent German Nicole Lee is -- Technical producer -- -- -- And any York we've got funny so. -- afternoon well welcome back Jessica. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- In the -- yeah well you got an Palestinian ninety days back from vacation and that lag like anything like -- to cleaning the podcasts and make podcasts -- that's. I'm glad that we -- Stop realignment. Let's talk about all of the news that. I missed a lot units -- Lindsey brings exciting -- -- in Italy. And I -- -- -- for my friend's wedding. You can't tell your you know childhood friend you're not on it I know I agree to a -- and yeah. Yeah slicker -- -- -- -- for this group when I say that we are not feeling guilty and can lead to better. -- I'm saying is that eyes suddenly you start drooling are falling asleep not might have good brains to land. Yeah thank -- Mac -- like -- Steve Jobs well. In unison it's quiet there each age is doing what Atlantis. On. It and you -- -- this week. I was here for. The interesting news that the -- Department of Justice is moving to block they AT&T and T-Mobile merger. Since it's kind of the hot stuff off the presses. Is this week so. -- actually has been working very steadily with Maggie Reardon. For our CNET news.com reporter. About this and what exactly -- DOJ is decision means for it they eighteen team mobile merger and what the obstacles will be going forward. Now -- it's just it's -- -- story story this does not mean that emerges to run instead it can still go ahead it's certainly a big road block and it certainly looks. Less likely than it did last week. But what this decision means the Department of Justice has filed a lawsuit against it so AT&T. -- really is -- the power to say oh we approved we don't approve but they can say we're gonna file lawsuit against -- so what they can do -- if that dominant. Eighteen T a couple options are Dayton accord which they say they're going to do and if they prevail in courts. Then they can move it had. Course facility at the FCC's. -- input but that's another matter. They could change the terms of the the -- to terms in -- merger which is unlikely. If they lose the lawsuit they can always appeal. Aren't they if there was a lawsuit they appeal in Munich so it could go the way of this is happening but this is just a big growth market -- -- -- Now why is an unlikely that they won't change the terms of their offer. It's unlikely because AT&T wants all of T-Mobile -- don't wanna part of that they don't want you know half of their customers -- some other spectrum they want all of it. And eventually would have to divest some of that when I that's that's -- the FCC gets involved FCC just approved the transfer the licenses its release. There really -- power here. -- but they just want the whole thing I don't wanna just buy part of it and keep going so it's unlikely that -- -- change. Biggest issue here is that. That the issue that the FCC will have well actually in the day this is that the issues that the did -- justice also mentioned to just. The things we've heard a long long time and actually sprint is -- a lot of -- -- -- -- and -- significant day yesterday. It's just that. It it would lead to less and less competition and less innovation in devices mark retardation. Or consolidation and spectrum and assigned as they also -- say they -- -- Said T-Mobile was. Ports and force -- rumors news again. A momentous force or something like that in -- wireless base -- -- But. -- may indicated it may seem well they have the first T-Mobile and at the G1 the first Android phone. They have this high speed network which -- That -- Department of Justice recommends that AT&T mobile has been a big player which is one of AT&T'S arguments T-Mobile hasn't really mattered much. And one thing that we shouldn't forget is that. T-Mobile or at least you know. T-Mobile international parents want to sell T-Mobile TAT and T you want to merge but it's not like T -- getting swallowed up at that they have a lot to gain as well. And clearly they weren't doing as well in the U massive if they eat or shop themselves around or entertained an offer from AT&T. So. This is very interesting yeah and I think my big question is what happens if this -- In those -- my question too little help -- the team well AT&T will kind of her alarm is that has been doing and -- it loses a ton of money cracked yet again to get bigger question is T-Mobile me to this list because Deutsche Telekom team models owners are you know parent company. There they can't seem like they're done with things they want anonymity to get out and it. And they. You know this this would have been -- goods exit strategy for them because they're getting a lot of money and they can despite their hands clean and they can walk away. But now that this if this happens to fail in another piece Maggie Reardon -- laid out. Some of the scenarios that could happen. And CO they could it just would lead to -- it would lead to restore common objects women -- -- -- -- spectrum or they could partner with someone who needs the resources. Or they could just you know maybe piece of the company and so on from there a lot of ways signal around so if your T-Mobile customer your pleased by this news -- you should be I'm. This isn't -- this is an homer and -- though it's not like this means it's gonna be okay. Right because it seems to me it's almost guaranteed that. Even if it doesn't go through T-Mobile is not operate the way that it has -- there also -- changes and it may not be suit customers' benefit. So even though we've been looking at. You know what what does it mean if AT&T -- to the T-Mobile customer. I think -- equally important question is what does it means the T-Mobile customer if the buyout fails. AT&T would -- them if if the deal. It fall through. -- so -- point seven billion dollars about it haven't really change. -- -- -- So -- -- yesterday and a camera and a camera that in his government somebody edits a Maggie -- mystery -- -- -- In them are able you'll check on that answer questions and they accuse him. And according to this iciness Roger -- reported AT&T condemned by his divest of more and eaten it billion dollars to NASA's budget goes through dismissed as it is yet -- the value today -- resident -- I remember the number being three point eight million that they have to give T-Mobile. As -- debris from the billion million jetlag billion. They haven't it has a -- from here on in -- weeks from now getting around lakes aren't I just -- -- it. Yeah and then Maggie also laid out -- it happened with forgy. If T-Mobile putters alarming as it is sons about something else you looked at is is that it. T-Mobile would struggle and -- this forgy. Said this is something that we're definitely going to follow closely yet so we'll let you know but right now it's too big is certainly -- Mercury into corporate. And then -- take awhile to sort out as well when it. Actually can't coming that you mention in your keys that it I was really interesting was. That this is not exactly usual move. -- -- You mean is that it's that we just -- separate DOJ to Italy Albania early earlier then -- I. I search according to some strategy is that they've used before in our -- this kind of deal. Yet they mean -- we'd probably -- -- probably expect this and some emulator in the foreign. So they've programming that's utterly -- -- -- -- cut out this -- is pretty an interest in an orbit and on the FCC hasn't said anything. Day you know the FCC had this is especially it is expressing concern about it as well in a city -- serious consenting -- done. Amid asked AT&T gets easier passage and view more information a couple times. In I think when we sigh when these came out in some -- -- -- you know it's as if it's done deal -- now it's it's it's got a lot. It's agencies would face an uphill battle -- So moving -- from AT&T. Stephen Franklin is in Germany and it at the conference and brought a little bit of news about a phone that's maybe a little bit bigger men many -- we've seen. It's the Samsung galaxy notes and is a big phone -- is -- tiny tablet. It is from Samsung looks a lot like a galaxy -- in -- sort of central button but. Except for the fact that it has a whopping five -- three inch screen. And it does running Android 2.3 gingerbread so it's it's -- positioned. As a phone as far as that's concerned by one of the problems in its its gonna face the same problems that Dell had with its street. Hours ago to do -- because Samsung's a -- Phone maker. -- about it. The galaxy -- yes. Well I I do you think it's a pretty -- size for a phone. But it sounds like they want it to be sort of in between device -- -- do have is -- does them. -- -- -- -- -- Now how long it received from its earnings -- I'd be. Adding that stylus that's reprints is smart in the and it knows and of the PDA east type of category awareness day. It also has the dual core one point four gigahertz processor and super -- led screen. Eight megapixel camera -- when He -- video two megapixel front facing camera. So should they -- -- things they think are insisting the super inlet screen. And underwrite they're using super inlet and not super -- plus because of course the bigger the onscreen in -- then the smaller pixel resolution the less clear will be. So if they used the super Amylin plus -- probably be in -- being clear display even -- this isn't a space issue. Yeah it -- -- And. I don't yet it's it looks like from its -- certainly a big one right after asking of them. It's a seven inch for excellence of its Canada it's -- half -- we -- Pretoria -- It's pretty good -- telling. And would like to see you and me in just how I didn't overflow my hands yeah I -- lot of comments about this -- Against billions of it is a fun because the discipline to. That's still a common scene I have big hands and -- evident in -- you know I nausea pain in the but are you a giant list. Well and I -- making our old friend Jason Allen Hughes an apology -- and union tallied in the that's -- It's a good thing that's interesting about the silence that fact kind of makes me think about the HTC fire by hand in -- yeah hasn't been announced in -- has availability. Not charge for that silent as an exhibits included -- and at this as anything it comes with a little pocket. It almost -- -- there's like a little island of Atlanta. And it's on that it now. -- -- And an out it's a little bit -- me just because I can imagine what it including you did. Thank you back pocket -- she's gonna. Going to be for for -- partnership could. In an underserved market right here when and and it. Should come returns weapons. And equipment two -- configure it with you. Well the slightly smaller model is the -- Samsung galaxy asked CO. And that is coming out we've been waiting for pro and and I reviewed an unlocked even ticket on my vacation -- -- But it finally got those they had had not been announced that US and now it has been and Barney and all of at the -- had an event here and he's seen -- the lens. Percent to two postponed. Because -- an -- that I don't and that's. We -- his hockey -- did Neutrogena the last ten Sampson was scary -- for the Galaxy Tab. There was a tornado that came through New York. -- Earlier do you analysts -- you can't -- It will sound simply -- -- -- the world. Feeling earth. Yeah of course -- -- now. -- -- -- Yeah money you know these close look pretty old -- you to parents so they announced. Three versions to T-Mobile eighteen T and sprint and T-Mobile as an eighteen -- An enemy called the galaxy S to land in a different names and you little little's -- and details at the last minute -- -- -- was under case and made. Just said this fall. Ways AT&T said it becoming an -- -- in the coming weeks and as -- actually Meet the Press when renegades they arrogant man. So -- on September 16 or 199 -- nine with a two year contract and Atlanta has so the T-Mobile. And sprint version have or plain by inch displays. And then AT&T'S going with a four point three inch display because -- -- that includes. -- what I actually preferred because that way you know I like the nice little spy so you know and they do have -- forgy. But -- about the same mean you know -- -- her. Yet it's interesting that they actually -- -- friend Betsy of them have the same name and they do have a demand by an and then unlocked versions of a modern version -- have four touch sensitive buttons from the looks of it. Unlocked version has sort of rectangular -- -- had that the -- home by yeah that'll and then just to your touch sensitive by the on the sides and I thought it looked. A lot more unique and a lot class here so yeah I'm not exactly happy to see -- all previous department of patent. Any magical being that it be Apple patents. -- -- Because of that because of the notes the metal the home button in an -- me I know but other other -- in my Wednesday you and you. And international and I mean could be I don't really know my inner and I'm not happy did not see it. You could difficulties. Without I -- an idea -- You know it's He now you have different -- and they all want something slightly different but there's I think there's limitations on our web you can -- a unique. -- -- -- -- Can say where the biggest erecting go I know right exactly how and where screening all know -- that they said these -- that in its four G phones Rolf every carrier and add and edit -- It will and that I needed people. -- -- So a couple of weeks ago IA had an inner being your friend and an industrial designer and basically this person was saying how frustrating it is. That sometimes that -- the -- about coming down is make these phones as and it's possible -- designer with saying. Essentially how boring is that. We have -- creative latitude all we're doing is creating in and the smallest thinnest -- that we possibly can't rate and all that is why the black Iraq -- -- descendants suggestion plan. Hey if we get over the hole than is a thing that we can actually create some interest in modeling and interesting designs -- DC's -- -- -- as the other phones sort of like that terrorists look on the Packers something out contours. A -- adjusting to. Bonnie that EM HT TT mobile phones are sort of need to see whereas -- sprint Landis called the -- Laurie G technology tacked. Using an -- -- -- it again. Nagging I asked him about that and it you know it's -- -- -- the carrier -- T-Mobile and -- T one and that's kind of strong you know the galaxy S charity has -- content -- -- -- -- thing I mean -- try and keep going in their epic spamming grave yet it's not an epic handling phone. Well it's and I did it galaxy -- Grade -- I got in -- ask them why -- it and you know the keyboard you know there isn't a model out there with -- Cuba -- emailing Aston. You know where they okay with them -- They say yes you know they you know the galaxy SQ phones have been very popular overseas so they're happy to -- stay within that family and offer -- -- device. -- customers so. Yet you know I know some conflict is when -- it isn't. So -- -- -- on first and outlook yeah. -- -- -- Still I'm just it's not called the eighteen Samson team I thought you -- okay. Announced yet elegant red -- -- narrow island. Well -- -- -- guess they decided to got a list of meaningless strong enough it is kind of go with that. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Yes so it HTC has also shared with us and information. Outlets are actually got an exclusive -- -- as special edition HTC sensation. With beats technology. Finally incorporating -- -- -- Regis. Ryan -- The finalists and a I was on vacation and this little announcement about the itself came down -- It's going to because -- this it's gonna become the space ACC sensation special addition it's economies TC sensation beats. And the it will have active would feature better -- -- faster CPU more internal storage capacity battery. Also have fancy set of headphones -- its hands and I'm. It. Sid for a remote control for easy music selections are you know that's probably on the that's -- Rather than site you're sitting -- remote control it's maybe half the size of the found -- -- -- each time. To -- to get a minute -- So it's the we don't know exactly what on the compounds some of the -- -- coming -- I'm hits and a soda. I have -- -- account we don't know exactly as availability but it's going to be on -- version 520 pounds or 847 US dollars. We'll see it. But we might see it. Ericsson and considered. Meaning it seems -- -- -- and consider that it's a local pair of beats by Dr. Dre in your headphones -- 119 dollars. Grounds 840 soon design -- to make the up. -- and that's a lot of Monday night. And it you know I have here is going and going out this week wait to ask the senate assume you'll -- maybe not but. This would be HTC's first chance to take -- as Nicholson take its new. -- -- purchase and actually do something with it. So it's TCI also announced to Windows Phone -- go the prices. And funny you kind of -- down on that. You said these were announced in -- -- it. The aid actually did during and -- in England France Spain and Germany instead of having kind of a press conference -- critical for the fans but. They are going to be the east TC titan and the HTC He read our. That titan is the more higher and model and has a one point five gigahertz all com staff dragon processors sixteen gigabytes of internal memory. Also another large screen it's got a four point seven inch WV GA touch screen. Which you know the extra space is great and is a little disappointed that they didn't have that resolution because it's very much -- HD seven. -- actually stopped by late last week kind of shown off. New features a windows funding goes so it does indeed have a front facing camera and one point three megapixel cameras we -- so to get -- or target there was not a rumor -- yeah it someone had said that it's. You know confirmed that at a conference -- -- got treated everywhere so. We usually have three options right PGA were hampering free -- you can't go wrong. That this one's one point three but. Yet they were talking about the -- support rate HTC you know said you know this isn't running final -- it's not in there right now but that's what they won't be at. You know when it is released. They are gonna bundle their phone with the tango video chat app so. Round but Skype might be there when it is released -- -- -- on the yes. Yeah and then they're radar is -- of -- mid tier -- men and has. Oh and a one gigahertz after an impressive seventy point eight instantly VG touch -- Eight gigabytes of internal storage and it has a VGA front facing camera and a five megapixel camera on back. You know they've made some enhancements to HTC -- includes news and stock -- and things like that and -- and of polished up something that's fairly incremental. And they are in criminal and impressions at uniting their. Very style devices HTC's -- make great hardware it's great but it. You know Eric talks you know we're gonna have four G dual core -- Windows -- device beta and the so. This just doesn't seem -- That I don't know -- for an -- New uses it's -- in my view -- but -- -- you dirty had a -- finite -- happening. -- answering bigotry yes yeah it's necessary and awareness on seven and I Cisco Systems that don't have actually seen them yet and besides the ACC this in the sense. -- -- so it's amazing it goes indefinitely an I think it's just beginning you know when windows funding goes coming out this fall. And we have an -- in and one thing you know. Good to see those -- hand starts in general still not tenement Nokia's for an. Now happening at us and let the air is so -- Nokia world. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Dad and though. Actually I was gonna say if you want to sort of see those specs. Compared across. All of that the first batch of HTC -- phones. Am I have Samson team created -- -- and the Samsung to define it and it. Our body really -- as soon. I agree with -- and innocent and I think at the screen is the past and can -- -- as well not disagree with -- But I kind of threw them all together I disagree. An irony which do you think has the best -- I'm just a screen okay. Mr. cantankerous that over here with serious space. As it does look and He compared it to latest windows than it has detected in the reed army the differences are so spot like oh it's a bigger screen internal memory it's better internal memory and make a -- I think if you see is not -- -- -- And I had. I think -- CC is not demonstrating that it wants to be the leader either with Windows Phone. Or it doesn't really care about -- -- -- -- it wants to succeed or maybe it's strategically trying to you in the mid tier AB because I don't like app. -- gonna say it's also. I think there's more to com I mean does is just you know me -- just kind of -- these out first I think we'll see more from them and I least I hope so you know with smart. Design teens is in more hardware better hardware and things I think yeah I mean I'd love to see those phones first to kind of show a pay the next into strategically for HTC and four. -- as -- as a platform. You know this is the time to -- the funds never get me excited about attendance got some pretty decent specs. And it still -- -- their resolution and there's no reason in my mind that our resolution can be a little higher especially on such a large screen. Titan is clearly that the better. In terms of specs -- -- The -- of an out out of all of the ones in your return Jessica Dayton isn't this and it is to issues He tied it seems to be the Mars. Act -- but again it is like. I think that Kim sang and hopefully Nokia can do better especially if they can get fourteen especially it is angels are processing and displease some things -- lessening interest in higher resolution. So I don't know so far I am personally disappointed but Bonnie was the one who got a hands on and so I can only be known opponent and I think -- -- again. That's because it's it's we just don't -- much content concentration -- from any of the manufacturers. Well windows -- you have sort of look the lower end of specs you. It's harder to impress people with which you've got but if you've got in -- and higher end of the spectrum it's easier to disappoint. But what I mean is like for the radar I don't I'd be surprised if it's anything other than what we think it it based on the -- -- In any anything there's an audience. -- them. But yeah I mean. You know. -- make a big splash now. And drug -- -- as the OS is making -- -- -- yet and I am you know I think it eight again like -- that I think there is more common in east. Open in -- trickle out and one other thing I did find while -- -- -- around the devices was another rumor that it would have Internet sharing and mobile hot -- and did indeed find that in the settings menu itself. Luke and the mix and its way to keep and I -- shouldn't business. Let's get back over the carrier side for a minute sprint -- raising its prices. Timberlands in two different ways so. One of them don't we we do have a confirmation -- a Spain has. Will raise its ETF on its early termination fees team. The unit fifty dollars it's folded it -- -- means it will go down and -- -- in the coming -- that -- -- -- -- contract. Right now it's 200 dollars but you will -- -- if He. Studies can be ninety -- this near Endesa speculation not just. -- -- advancement Abbas has activated -- wallet that is could be a sign of the iPhone I mean becoming just branded BB this is sort of the -- it's time names. Last year -- He raised its ET -- CU. Three -- by promising to and the iPhone four came out so we know is not entirely unprecedented. I mean and then to other news is that springs has done. Will my entries to upgrade fees from eighteen dollars. 236 exist and is ridiculous I know this is -- is pretty I had this upgrade CI's analysts tick me -- to -- ericsson's name now and punishing customers for existing customers exactly -- -- -- this is our existing customers you and a great your phone. In even if you may even need idea contract that -- -- attacked you. An eighteen dollars -- 36 dollar it well right now according to this. But declared document is a deal raised -- -- -- eighteen dollars to 36 on a starting on spend the night as well. So in at least is -- and reading fees all of a place. Analysis is -- the T-Mobile personal -- is open from iPhone and since she said eighteen dollar upgrade fear whatever it is Africa and I just kept arguments have seen that's ridiculous -- and communities yes -- Can easily go somewhere else disease -- for your customers -- not a contract for two years you're punishing loyal customers and -- eighteen dollar upgrade fee is kept smiling all time. -- -- I think it like it's gonna faithful and -- and it's also I mean is interestingly aside aside from their iphones by rumors -- -- -- Four is that September ninth is also around attend epic four G touch is gonna come out from citing it has to be because of that as well could be a lot of people lot of reasons that. Not meant to selling like a good conspiracy. -- -- -- And then you know some existed at all -- -- need extra fees because they do when I'm in Oakland continued in England and Spain. -- Sarah excellent before we move on to the next thing and women. So Palestinian -- -- -- on a spreadsheet forward Twitter link it's on the demonstrate columnists. Next to products I'm so we have a listener hasn't charming now and we -- -- -- last week that on -- remember that the songs there. I was trying to buy between HP touch pads and only came up with a couple and very successful we are gonna save his gun and -- Get a chance Karen got in on the corner and say I wanna I wanna my -- -- and He -- this very funny if it's. -- -- now pulling. Neither has my. Student twittered and then no it's over capacity and not all will will -- I can't win Hank I'm sorry this page doesn't exist. Once -- -- so well. -- okay it's not an area hysterical phone will -- that into the has. I am I have to I have to complement an announcement for the week. We are trying to find aliens we can attract the amendments. I think I haven't property but anyway. We'll move on welcome back to -- If it didn't. Well thanks there is one tragic comic story. President of architecture and content from non. -- I've got an. I think -- is. Expected. Apple. -- somehow lost another prototype -- Great -- -- -- and -- -- -- TU CNET news.com reporters had the exclusive on this. Which happened. Well I was amstel -- assessment. Maybe not -- now they are when they got back the device islamists in late July. In San Francisco there's somehow story came out yesterday see a black hole in San Francisco who -- very classy as a bare trees by sprint but cities have bars. -- -- plus it's been. Ours is the mark troublesome spot common theme here I think like you know is ever discovered Redwood City -- -- announcement and -- -- -- -- name -- common -- yet. -- -- -- -- And it's sort of every key of what happened last year when an iPhone four prototype went missing. So. Maybe somebody who's been following this little network. Yes so it's a what happened uses. So it's as -- just disintegration -- -- -- about this out. Any unreleased iPhone. Went missing in a bar here in San Francisco called carpet Tony too which incidentally -- getting lots of publicity now these days the chronicle actually restaurant like yesterday. Had a little blurb about the restaurant senate and the title is something like a -- -- to -- I found -- In -- eleven that's because they're Denton there again months publicity about it so. -- as a story says the and phone was lost and Apple was able to track the device to a house in San Francisco. And when they went to the house over the and they -- the police -- and the place went to the house. They talk to the person who listeners the person or one of the people who live there. And the person that person had mentions. Been at the bar the night. The device was allegedly lost. And then also. But they asked to -- -- -- nothing about it didn't know where it was NASA searchers found the person let them and found nothing. So that's -- we -- So the device could still be out there but. -- until I. But this is this is you know this is significant on a couple levels one is that. This is -- after last year's incident with such a huge thing. And it was really embarrassing for Apple because it's the first time that you know I know I've covered the company. That one and in and they never lead to device He never get in make -- like the blurry photo from Mac. Case maker in China but nothing -- -- this is what it looks like here's a video of it here pictures here and here are. You know the specs I've used it you get that for other phones and so in -- -- and notes users when however and Gizmodo publicist -- is a big deal because it never happened before and so. And they actually made. -- -- -- -- the in the chat room Costco and so on and it was that big deal last year and because. And then -- -- I remember even when they had the announcement Steve Jobs got up its agents that something like -- And -- -- -- out of time by. Says they don't discuss it happen again in -- you'd think that after the first time great care would contain so it's not how does it it's. Embarrassing. I mean I eight did just a conspiracy -- is seeing now it was to add them lighten oh. They don't see that I just embarrassing if you work with Apple you know that they. -- -- Yet cheap publicity stunts which I wouldn't put it beyond other companies. Apple would not do they don't -- -- I -- yeah yeah you got our iPhone five rumor around we we update religiously and and -- with any sort of remote every report on and that back kind of rumor at the talk the speculation has ala Apple needs to get people to be thinking about their devices and this is just a culture -- -- -- and then. And then once the device and of stress that once a device is announced and we know the specs it goes on sale -- -- people -- buying it and don't need to yes so it's they don't mean that. Their publicity stunt will be. Gas well or -- and the -- next weekend there's yeah it's enough. And if you're lucky it will save you see. So visit this is it's very interesting story suggest you go and take a look we'll put it in -- we'll put it in the Prague. I just that I've seen it has exclusive look exclusive on the -- so the first reports are expected. And then just a follow up. Jacqueline and -- also wrote today that the suspects and the first iPhone prototype case have pleaded not guilty if so if you're following that. -- that you read up on that article. Yes so these are the two guys last year will let out those two people who -- -- -- millionaire who allegedly sold it to Gizmodo. And they have been charged with misdemeanor charge -- under -- -- in it to somebody to I think. If you have -- C you know that -- stolen in the and you reduce the -- -- forget the exact terms it's some that's appropriates such property it's Yahoo!. His -- her opinions -- ego as guilty on yet is guilty of theft and any needed. Even if you did actually -- it yeah it is you know -- -- and when you do something else with it so allegedly disguise where the once its orbit. And then hinged in part about this though is. Actually under that same markets moto and in the writer who posts -- that original story Jason -- could have been. Could have been charged -- but they were dropped. So -- me just flash really quickly -- that picture yet again. -- -- And. Yes if you -- biased if you want about the notion that you you know -- and -- and if you -- make in your pocket pod cast doubt about the status you -- I can't you gotta -- Canada. -- -- -- So thank you for sending out of there right now and ice left amount actually homes with -- -- academic economists are about some. -- So let's. Go really quickly we still have emerged it's actually pay. Events. We are we gonna this is about love not thinking about Roger -- yeah I mean that day ahead -- -- the answer. I found it sounds like they're just gonna lay out their forgy planned then it's something they kind of confirmed over conference call. Earlier in and that's definitely in a tough choices in the -- this when you look at me when you look at the invitation on the little diagrams on it. Because of the graphics are and it seems all -- network and there's only -- Wi-Fi signals and so. And it's gonna be in New York City yeah yeah. You don't see anything about -- you don't see anything about. I think if there's only got Verizon thing that came out -- CS with we're gonna take -- -- you know are nearly everything in you know right away you know Kevin with -- says again. So this -- has an iPhone. We doubt we'll see -- here. Especially because I'm a little fun at the bottom were totally make generic kindred found and and then Sony Ericsson have also unveiled a phone will kind of circle back to the product news and that any. They experience I guess it just really quickly it's just a follow up to that XP area -- You know it's more of a global -- -- it and has faster -- -- compared. Welcome privately just after an M processor and connect come with more entertainment options -- Down in -- if you really want it means that looks like a very sleek device. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- These -- -- done with the idea that the rang and it and you you mentioned in this blog posts about. Their prototype. -- -- -- -- -- -- He added -- tinkling in the -- He had his first hands on look at it's an Android based -- -- -- -- yeah I think pictures of it as the very iconic walkman logo on -- it's. So it's not a phone. Now it looks like that can music and music but as my agent or marriage have now is a scene of the Barnes -- -- -- from them confused. It's a battle and that at a US is bright it's funny. Well let you think about that and take Jessica and straight guys He. And we're gonna it is that I'm gonna blame everything and Atlantic -- imminent. -- And we are back to dialed in with reviews we've -- via LG Revere the Blackberry Bold -- 900 of the Samsung in my ear and the job and I kind HD. Plus opener and an iPad but we'll find out we'll find out so let's start with the LG -- The -- -- is He very basic clam shell phone from Verizon Wireless -- attention elephant phones out there they're not dead yet. People still want these very -- poems just calls and a duty is one of those in as a one point three megapixel camera. Bluetooth. And it's quite apartment only fifty dollars to UTU since. -- -- -- -- -- It's pretty -- don't feel like pretty basic basics and as into -- according to have a five -- was -- It about the Blackberry Bold 9900. So this is very similar to people -- -- -- thirty decided spent team -- with -- review but it's. I would get a couple of things that I think we're pretty interesting about this particular model is that because it's team mobile it has it has compatibility -- was it is. -- -- -- -- -- -- Is only runs EV DO rev -- which is sort of -- with -- And then. 900 it -- people even those. Still it's 3-D technology but it's faster because of the high speeds so I would say this is. Little did that in terms of performance. And at the height but at -- the same -- -- the meaning that. They haven't they're slowly making the rounds with those -- yeah dad AR. And we've got another one from Samsung it is the entry level Android phone called B admire did you sense. Not so much. And it is is. -- for user friendly it's got the features in need insulin and entry device or four match -- -- only 129 dollars of course that's without a contract. -- need -- you'll need at least the fifty dollar per month unlimited data and by had the screams buying it was a particularly flashy but its its original device so it doesn't have the best processor does and the industry that's -- I'm -- Odyssey you have -- -- -- -- had gingerbread. It had -- MetroPCS this new rhapsody unlimited music service where -- you can download and access songs via rhapsody. And Warner Music has not signed onto that particular this particular events are so you don't care complete Cadbury can -- -- -- -- complete access to. Rhapsody is catalog but -- it's enough. I'm a -- -- you do need a sixty dollar plan to get to use the rhapsody service that's a six dollar per month plan you don't need to pay anything extra beyond. So that's certainly -- and I didn't wasn't allowed to call quality I thought -- it was on my hands like us a lot of audio cutting it's. And their -- the volume was -- -- now so how that reported on the other sites people starting a new sense of the same thing. I.'s Peter found not -- grade it was -- quiet. And those that speaker on the back is kind of small so it's pretty quiet and pretty tiny. And so I didn't -- much. And two incidents that -- -- spine. But I had just a sample quality it and think it was it really measured up I think that if you're gonna go with -- And -- and you're gonna go with. Entry level device much enthusiasm the rhapsody service is not unique to this -- You -- you should go with the galaxy and don'ts -- optimism. But. Didn't quite wasn't planned them. Not enough to mine -- actually. And next up I reviewed Alienware -- say you have you nobody's giving you don't have any app. And and it this this this headset is the Jawbone icon HD last -- okay so is that remarkable. Let me hear about the actual Bluetooth headset is called the tablet -- on -- T. The -- ordinary outlets listener and things. And now the -- is the and a wire free USB. I know why declining at an -- don't ask me why because they just calling it is tiny and used the audio adapter -- -- And doing so the idea is that it is seeing that -- like you and apparently tickets -- with a computer. This is using its -- used Bluetooth pairing process involved in Vista just you just -- -- -- adapter in. -- -- attitude is that institute is its sensors and do a phone. Partners the adapter ports and -- -- the computer while you're right. You just plug -- audio adapter -- to use a PC -- your Mac. -- -- Paris is to me. And then you ready to use this idea adapter and hits and much any computer any -- -- of yours. So the idea is that you know usually -- deceived its analysts haven't been computers at every single one. This is just that we dissing is the single audio adapters to any computers work seamlessly and well dialing surprise your co worker -- the same except at right. Cell. And the good thing about this -- -- is is that it was with no phones as well also you can just transparent. From your calls. Two PC audio pretty seamlessly meet the transitions but He did. I used is to make Skype call. -- depressed at call. And I the big double icon HD was as an improved audio far -- highest that high fidelity. An audio quality because of the new dynamic quite dense -- -- -- that so. Is doubling -- equality I would say. It's pretty pricey at 240. Dollars for the icon HD and noted -- you can't get that it's at separately you have to get it with. -- audio adapter as a bundle. So there's an outright disgust at being an issue should be able to get -- it's -- went to. Do you think it's worth it. I you know if you want -- really super stylish it's an icon HD is and -- wouldn't -- I equality if it it's not for everybody I think that in the bidding of the -- -- -- Everybody likes it -- I -- for me personally and I do think it's. Is worth it but I would shop around and some discount deals put something on Amazon. Get it cheaper they'll be putting my preference. By -- its disputed. -- -- And we have one question from Brian who lives in upper Michigan. And has the iPhone -- AT&T but it heats AT&T. Calls the edge data network. And usable it passed which is pretty much a He had so -- looking for a better option next summer when the contract and and asks is Verizon better or should I get a -- -- a Wal-Mart -- Well the Wal-Mart found -- mean that. To take on different meanings I assure you mean assume you mean straight talk no problem. And that's you know you're gonna have a pretty basic phone that's not coming American academy features and the sources are gonna be really advanced. If you lighting Verizon -- -- -- for most people's -- thing for rice intense their credit or attempts to do better and -- if you're an upper peninsula missing -- units on a -- urbanized area there's going to be. More rural areas and prices probably can be better in those places that. But our coverage maps cracked out and I -- -- -- some stuff and they have -- I mean I would talk to here. I think the best advice usually -- -- I mean you can go on -- even go to you can go to you know that the pages that we have different metrics and you can you can see real time data for your area that's that's made by users that isn't something at the carrier to questions. -- you can -- here I would ask your friends your family your coworkers your neighbors. If people in your community what they use and if they like their phone and you see your primary concern is having your phone would it work where you live. Where we work in -- in both places and great and -- commute and just where you need to use the phone you know shopping. Groceries -- whatever might be. And -- ask around and -- -- better service and the pricing is good and you want from it as a few more features than I would go with them. It's nice you can buy those -- and want to -- to us again. So there -- -- it -- are still here. An honest and we're gonna have. Again well and if you wanna read any of us even sending email to dialed and I was watching TV. Yen. Maybe she's got jet -- may she's written about his -- dancing with the stars and. Their response. Here we -- there we cutie yeah yeah about it in your media are it. Well anyway and as an email -- in and cnet.com you can leave us a voicemail -- 8664002638. 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