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Dialed In #180: Happy birthday, iPhone!Four years ago a certain famous smartphone first appeared in our hands. Kent German remembers it well. The Dialed In crew also considers the hardware ins and outs of a Nokia-made Windows Phone.
-- But then it is Wednesday. -- -- -- ninth. 2011. And in welcome podcast kind of art in -- Kent German and -- me. I. Got on each new York. And art technical producer today. Welcome. -- it -- studio really. You might be right there anyway. -- welcoming him to the pot that's good he became. I can't keep me -- in -- model. And speaking of which let's just jump right in with its utility telling journalists that room. Not to share the top secret in Europe -- share the parents were that always works. Yeah -- referring there is a certain thing that happened last week where new accused the U Stephen which I mean. A roomful of people. A top secret device. That we now the Ukraine. That -- be the first witness. And I think the conversation went something like at their with the YouTube video is now no longer available due to copyright claim -- -- key. Ams that was pulled for music you buy -- up for a -- And saying okay -- we are -- back and forth on whether or not to show you were gonna show -- you can't share with anyone. And let's put it up on camera and for about teeth back in you've -- -- it is very clean and it is a buys a lot like. B and eight -- has just announced it Munich used it in and and night and in that was announced it communications. Last week and Mary sharp. -- -- Phone and and did you get about. Well I think it's funny that -- -- -- I don't see this you know I don't know and we'll get it will probably -- talk about a month later. I don't quite understand what. Nokia is doing now I mean I think he moved toward Windows Phone 7 cents I think that sounds great I'm excited for it but -- Just in showing this and saying oh look here it is but don't talk about it man and a few days later at the same day introducing -- nine yeah just -- communication -- let me carry it sounds slightly less Darren. There are conflicting competing forces within Nokia. They want for that one part of Nokia's -- -- you know when pregnant and want to go forward you know flown between those -- -- -- to review it and -- and obviously. England doesn't is allowed to talk about it. So it like it's like -- -- and. Like and. Still trying to figure out what they're doing you know I think like we talked about last week they introduced and nine a couple days -- for this video can yet. And I feel lake. They can -- to put it out there because they put all this work into -- but obviously. It's kind of dead already in the water and and that -- -- even candidate and how the yet. So anything in just one of those like well we've put all this work into it. We can't just -- it I guess we announced it. But and then part of me wonder if they did this front I mean saying hey please turn up -- recording devices no cameras -- mean. They've got a no no one's -- really. Stick to that bodice and this this can't leave this really -- credit or spindle and a smart and it's gonna happen any way -- family -- I had to. I was gonna say part of that feels like it was kind of planted you know it's just does going again they really did put it down for a breakfast you probably as -- -- Area yet and I didn't hesitation to stop right after -- yeah okay this well at that. Now it was interesting as they were tiny that -- about the pack adds to Geneva and yet my. And you'll notice this ninth -- Packing it's -- it like -- pollute top. Pushing up -- -- outlet next -- and nine didn't really look like it had anything but sharp angles and then it's like -- -- Item. Maybe as a damn compare them helpful indeed something to be this -- -- never wanna put into effect. Protects it from -- took. Well it's just standing if you know it is said that -- in the display has gorilla glass isn't candidacy. You might be acting according to some pictures -- -- can manage to flatten them back in. It apparently look similar to the -- nine -- we said. But there isn't much to go on from there there really isn't a lot of information -- aside from no blurry photos and what looks like -- -- -- is that yes Andy uses like -- -- weapons and in -- for -- it beat the timing was pretty much perfect because. We had imagined when -- -- -- and Windows Phone would look like. And that he gave us and a suit for our awesome art department's -- create some concept art. And then Bonnie and I kind of take a little deeper thought -- to -- that might -- So we have been wondering personal local and -- in the windows look like and what will house. On it as that we -- start thinking about -- things Nokia does really well and some areas where. They might stumble so -- area was with the fine. And I -- you want about bottled -- share and. -- -- we said before I think Nokia is higher and Smartphones have always been beautiful day of this. You know very nice -- -- in chassis in just high quality feeling devices. Problem has always been bad software with Symbian so I think that bringing on Windows Phone was a good move. Another. You know good thing they do is with cameras they'd probably have the most advanced camera phones out there. You know that an -- had atomic -- -- pixel camera and took off some photos and you know some people actually shot short videos and movies on them and they all -- great so. You know those are some highlights that -- -- can bring to Windows Phone. But they also have their shortcomings. Which just gonna talk including the screen of yet gay and -- -- okay bad there. But -- night you know compared to some of the QHD screens coming at this differently plus screen. An -- cannot really compare. I don't -- -- domains have. Do some super -- recognized something that you register -- -- Through an indiscriminate use spew for even the minutes also interesting because Nokia has been ahead of the curve and a couple areas to -- -- with front facing cameras. And with and a -- And Nokia stand with -- -- a funny like that that had an and it's each minute but it -- and is cheaper premiums -- and can -- mobile and and a middle of the -- -- very predictable. Build a New Hampshire -- just isn't. In the blog this year but a lot of not just unlocked phones and ended and cities -- -- -- -- those are really very popular and oversees it and Mary. And vessel indictment -- that -- -- in a sand dollars unlocked here. But those -- -- the Kennedy's announcement hopefully this will. -- -- Exactly does nothing official has been announced but this this definitely. Something we expect elements that we're doing we don't know and actually we'll see the first one -- sometime in the follow. -- There eighteen they're talking theater when he electronic around holiday season programs like no more -- leader in the -- -- although it it is very common for Microsoft and if he's spared. Things -- do you remember the preview and when windows first. Making it okay when windows current phone first came out about the nine. Hands that we got a close look at that before the phone to the lions. They got to look at Mingo before things -- though Microsoft takes sort of like mind you it's coming it's coming it's coming we're showing -- -- I can't hear him. And I don't know about Nokia now I mean it kind of themes from Sydney. Little either. That they might also now on I wouldn't be surprised if we -- something more official about it. Sooner. Or directive saying knock -- -- on campus -- Nokia. I'm. -- -- He's -- -- -- -- -- Or you could affect. Our did not empathy and it -- -- I don't. Says this actually a week that was pre did he strongly focused on windows and we Bonnie and -- -- a public I when -- that after about a week of playing with. Mango which is the witness and seven point five update out of also due out -- -- We thought about five things -- Make you are right and five things that Windows Phone and Microsoft in general -- to YouTube. Apparently people cared more about the things we know yeah that's then why don't we -- clients if the love letter had. Exaggerated listening to that because -- to the people we are a little. Act one and -- -- that good stuff yeah that's it if it's apparently big constructive. It and so basically and side there. Number one issue was disability and education and we've talked about this many times for. It's just. Getting -- message out very -- I I really like their first set of ads of really commercials. -- because they think we do get to wrapped up their phones but the problem land also they were really clever you're very clever at but the ads showed absolutely nothing about. What the -- Yet it was at the very and there's -- accused 352 clip of just become the start screen but no other. You know visual what better way to know here's how you do this here's here's ray but here's what's going on it didn't explain how it would make your life simpler so I think they really need it kind of focus their marketing -- that. Showing what these phones do you know maybe picking one feature and -- it's -- to do and make -- 33 seconds until May be focused on the music is an integrated -- tiles interface desolate gray and everything out or that Xbox for gamers -- uniting BZ and hand them. Focus on specific features and really kind of target. I means that way. And I brought up to Verizon and Motorola Droid commercials because. You know and they did such a good job of kind of saying. While the iPhone doesn't do this but the -- does you know that I. I don't commercials. And so -- does very successful in making you know Microsoft would benefit doing something like that. What do you think that entry commercials that -- I mean they're just so much area they have the with the at -- turns and -- a -- -- -- A -- what do you think about -- and those don't really attract and mean link that I don't -- Panic they -- kind of an eye opener -- and -- You know when you nominate its do you -- -- -- to -- anybody has a lot to be aside I have an island is part in that I stuff. Just my opinion. Couple other things that Edmonton where hardware. And does something mean in baker said he -- I dress displays so hopefully you -- Nokia can bring on that innovation act. -- -- -- -- -- Maine goes due out this -- the handsets are due out later this year is wild planet so as ice cream sandwich and I am less biased than -- their and it really active. But -- terminal to keep. Releasing updates and partners. -- Camera. And seamless software you know customization is pretty limited to millions. -- but you know and don't. I think you can allow home. An -- listings for -- to allow for a little bit more customization both on the Korean and use of part. As well as some policies and I know I've got not a reader -- Not being able to sync non exchange outlook accounts harmed during the -- -- PC have to go through the -- now which is the entries it now. And you know just continue -- here customer feedback and seeing things that need to be changed. Its they've been -- And then a couple of just fear missing links and they still don't have a real universal search to stand tethering support -- expanded landscape. -- Little things it. -- various adjustments. Until some good news that yes things that we didn't like about it and ending funny and I were on the same page agreement are all of means. App integration was -- and happening and where you can start finding out and other places like in Bing search and in the music -- in the video and and photos as well. Multitasking. I was also really candidates like yeah every other -- are ready can do this but it. It's great that they can't -- -- because that was sort of usability problem that's now been addressed. In the vision which is this sort of our -- scanning -- -- Q are scanning the covers of media like that CDs dvds. And and that's kind of like IE icon and you are the ones you hold it above something in there to cover the -- and that are key -- that Microsoft tag and then and identifies. Your -- objectives and we also thought I would be really get -- to tying in few and a few later on. When that happens that -- eappen. Experience and something in the -- EP to spot. And and smart DJ it was also really cool it's kind of play genius for -- -- us. In that it will sort of create a playlist of of what you've -- already on your phone but if you've got the Zune past. Mobile quad really go into the marketplace as well and expand the list of suggestions for parents on that you might enjoy listening. Albums and artists as well so there's a little bit of music discovery to finally threaded conversations. In the email is really cool and then. Were hoping that. Threaded conversations where you can switch between I am in texting will be -- while the -- -- turn on. Says that's not necessary -- and an extra that we expect will be an. Threaded conversations for managing emails -- something that's so simple that you can already do elsewhere but it really makes a big difference on the mobile fun. And -- honorable mention with an enhanced live tiles just because of critical mention a second ago as something that Microsoft can offer that's really different. And part of fresh old and her -- These giant files. On the start screen it and they do stuff they tell you important things that sort of like a widget I think more useful and and less annoying -- Many -- sort of a stinking. Ends I'm gonna be commissioned visibility education just showing that on this meaning -- just demo lean at the shuttle demo on how -- live tiles work. But it would be a creek -- and it all will become even more -- Hansen will not. Where they will give you more information about people specifically that you hinted that start -- did you -- in your own profile. Annual people see more relevant information about it. Europe to its status or if he was called things like that's I guess that's actually a little bit more useful if you -- -- other people there. But Microsoft is. Has shown that they're really trying to make that experience a little bit richer. Which I think -- it. So. We didn't have an interesting and fun announcement speaking social networks running needles -- -- Shares -- of this was originally announced that mobile congress as HTC touch but it will now be known as the east is he. Patents and bunnies -- at peninsula -- and I know mark hostage the they're not related now markets imploring me nine -- and status in Hanover -- can handle -- now I can. I'm thinking a common language and the argument a little. And it ended -- incident that. But anyways so this that -- has. Made its official debut via what else FaceBook -- AT&T needs is he posted it today. And no pricing or release date yet but it will be out this summer and basically. The status has a dedicated FaceBook button at the bottom and the phone and patents in the image in -- bugbear. Am embarrassed basically when you press that you can post things to the social where it -- -- your status updates photos and videos. But also -- in the places and -- share what music you're listening to. For times with FaceBook app on the screen this is yeah and and upgrades as you -- one button now. -- make it all easy and there's actually also a tap widget that'll show you which and lines they can -- them. As far as this is smart -- -- -- identity in Japan yet running gingerbread says it's an Android on and uniting it there kind of aiming it probably for a little bit of a younger that I would think -- -- -- -- -- Has a two point six inch screen with a full QWERTY keyboard and 800 megahertz processor and and the depth camera and a FriendFeed and VT camera. I can pricing going to be key elements is tested -- Portland. Yeah I feel like it's kind of one of those can situations where they've -- the two key that is getting -- where it's funny. -- -- and do you think I'm I'm gonna try. If it as I say residents actually yeah yeah or -- Andrea. So Aaron yet that'll be and that's gonna be. He I feel like you're all thinking what I'm thinking -- two point six inch screen. -- -- -- -- -- Well I just think that we've we've seen is and every time we see something with a screen them all -- with. Because in -- and technical recently use small screen Android -- like the. And was it Motorola -- the the flat out and puts it again but the you know -- -- I that was not well received. Even though we were allowed to touch a -- -- congress I was quite impressed with the design and instantly but the flip -- with the with a touch with the stansted. -- I think it means keep it looks okay -- to keep it looks okay yes this -- gains can be a pain but it. And I eight guess it really kind of depends on the user experience with with the keyboard it might be okay. -- you -- looks really read what I'm concerned about is -- you've got all those other. Smartphones out there that offer big screens and I think that the status quo for viewing experience when it comes to reading things online. -- kind of -- and I think that this reduces it has kind of takes us back writer member of the sport and to switch or a little bit bigger. Agreed that answer I almost feel like HTC's status is like the audience -- the target audiences little bit different here in mind necessarily mean -- Yeah I think this is probably for the very -- I just don't detect my FaceBook status for -- yet few seconds and then in a text makes it sort codes -- keep rates down. Means missing yet. But with their -- So -- -- phone that is available now are not available now but we did get a closer look at it. With the T-Mobile myTouch four G slide. It says so this is been rumored for awhile. But they needed -- earlier this week and that. So it it's not just the next gen version of the myTouch 3-D side it. HCC and T-Mobile back together to actually focus on one feature in particular and that's the camera. And there I mean yes -- -- if they're -- has the most advanced camera of any Smartphone out there which is a pretty big claim. And dean yes so it -- -- -- we were just talking about the twelve megapixel camera on the Nokia and -- a -- This plan and an eight megapixel camera with dual O'Keefe last just 1080 PE to be -- capture was not -- the norm now. But what they've added is that backside illuminated sensor so. That should help with -- -- performance. And went to iPhone four. Also has and sent extra settings in the camera and that allow you to take panoramic sides. HD are. As well as our shots and captures include a sequence of photos. -- -- -- Yeah and you know and it we we did get a brief look at -- it was hard to really test the -- thirty minutes in a conference room. They they do say it has knows. Is zero shutter lag and found the camera and be pretty -- cars that another clipping as you can press the camera button and it'll launch even if the phone is blocked. -- an impact yet. You're not gonna miss that moment -- them. -- -- -- that the reason why you know I was seeing yearly is because ever and one says that iPhone four is the pests has the best human development and Smartphones that I would really like to see -- challenged. And this looks like -- totals I think plenty of people disagree with an endorsement of more camera bots but it -- for casual users -- Definitely does produce better quality photos and a lot of what we and that's slower but that's -- chemicals we discussed that sort of because editing apps that are available when you leave iPhone camera around its. But it's not that exciting. There are better found out there. -- -- -- -- -- -- Well meet personally like the iPhone -- HD are being used -- a lot actually and to have another camera like -- have that built in as well. Is actually a pretty dipping to half. -- do. Anything just. In general it's good to see somebody else suggesting that camera because I mean often times we carry you know you're -- your phone everywhere and not necessarily year digital camera everywhere. Three you're gonna pull your phone not captured you know these spontaneous moments in a lot of the times -- camera phones aren't very good especially in -- -- -- You know having eighty's he and which hasn't been that great in the camera category kind of address that issue is dead just kind of going for it -- that more conferences is a good thing. And even -- a moment isn't quite -- spontaneous and yet time to plan for an -- at least find myself grabbing. In -- one of the Smartphones instead because if irony no that I wanna share with them if I wanna send a -- nominee if I wanna upload it onto a website. Then I'm gonna go with twenty the year and that it's great amount with a wireless option built already -- exactly so I can maybe suffer a little bit for the quality. If I can immediately send -- out there are sometimes -- -- real camera -- event. And will hopefully and you know when we get it in for review in it will actually -- that means that. Not passing any final judgment now just as far as other respects it's a lot like the sensation for DC -- to acquire. Album -- two gigahertz processors. -- Four gigs of internal memory just one -- available to -- user. And it has a 3.4. Three point seven inch WP GA's super LCDs so it's a pretty good phone. Even -- the can -- To the makes the hardware on the -- HTC does HT CC's main all of the myTouch models. And -- yet. That summer availability and again no pacing rain. Well on the other end of the spectrum from HTC and T-Mobile there's Motorola and sprint. And we cover rumor reported by Scott Webster from -- network. And Motorola and sprint are working together on a sliding portrait. Pretty smart plan that would -- -- 2.3 gingerbread. And -- quite a lot like the Motorola expert. So. I guess it it kind of looks just like expert. And their -- in a blurry photo there is some speculation that it could be a portrait -- based on. From the design aspects so if it's nine then their immediate and very similar that -- -- -- Let's take a combo between the experience and that the Blackberry torch. Yet don't know if I had definitely -- -- -- -- adds to the blackberries to. He land the big screen I don't know. Let's. See you can't have a keyboard and a larger screen. But they -- the the it is costs could fit that. And another screen phone could be at the Samsung nexus Ryan it might in fact be the first -- screams parents found. -- also contributed from Scott. And there is a rumor that Google -- Sam's time and had such intake fast. I have some of their other fans like nexus S or G that they could team up for -- officially -- four point -- him. So some of being interest seeing. Points of conversation about this one is that it could have -- physical buttons not at all. I mean when but I I don't know I mean maybe there'd be sensory areas detention area and -- -- in that light it. I think that immediately if they're talking about new button on the screen itself. And terms of navigation. Either that or -- -- like a back button or something please see our handy guys feel that. I endure beyond thing controls -- long enough -- it right I can't dedicated camera. Some -- -- on but I like a camera and. That would be nice -- which is -- -- you know if the thing. When the thing if the thing is. -- That screen is blank and you're -- -- on. How would you how would you get a backups -- would -- would give an estimate target children. If you happen to be nice to have something you can back continually back out of features where you -- -- -- that's that they do that that'd be nice to see. To me like the iphone's home controller -- press that one button and takes you back a -- -- home screen. Rain. And I don't know Samsung minority in the coming up legal issue with Apple -- they just wouldn't want -- -- It took a little bit more. This may also have. These Samsung's super -- letting each Steve display which would be -- friends super inlet monster sized monster size. They stated they would have a seventh when he key resolution which would be pretty -- of financing Samsung kind of as -- -- Green technology right now and for their high end phones. In its oft repeated you have the next generation dual core processor with either one point two or one point five -- -- -- And a five megapixel cameras -- have improved camera sensor for higher quality images and -- low light conditions. So overseeing some of that as well fishing port and then of course -- GL TE support planet gigabyte of ram internally and the cure injury to experience with. Its attempts. Fell all make it thinks nothing -- of special that's the -- rumor. But -- it would be equal to think. Now it's about time -- spend seven months or so gingerbread or six months ago. When -- something else. It it feels like it just came out may be paid for it takes us a long time from a supposed to start a singularity -- in an eight dollar million yen. More reverse we've got rumors -- in a while it sprint -- three roadmap might have been leaked. Yes so I'm Leo it was -- It was a to -- these movement makes it it's an insult but. A brownie and it has been leaked and the firsts device is apparently -- -- being called the -- -- two. The -- is suspected to be a successor to the epic for EG. -- you know the epic four G was the Android phone with the -- laid out and -- worried she'd like to actually. -- had a dead you visual have a -- faster process or -- better camera at eight megapixel camera and leases it for an excellent. And seems to be that this is to -- -- extent of the changes of of as far as the improvements damaged isn't really debt much of a difference of -- frustration but the -- he. When it comes out but this -- much of a difference or not. And then. Moving -- -- non Android devices spit and a pony and have feedback very able touch in of that frame. Some code named Monica -- beef sort of talked about for. And those -- to do it to do almost TDMA GSM international phones and -- -- there is coming out with. So hopefully that will be honest are the maybe and you push to talk Blackberry just know. Interesting get -- -- pushing that thing -- initiative. Much of this that I Dan of from the -- -- this -- to phase out items showed that would call operators to him yeah I was seniors join arsenide and found -- -- -- into -- nice -- -- my identity to be on its way yes so. I think apparently another couple of sort of more basic -- -- Stance on -- and its convenience so those are the only commission news. Well yes it's the costs that they just think about this talking about this too seriously because you never know what's up again. Even on an ounce phone system won't see him concurrent -- Don't know what happened to that phone you know. Still -- still waiting. -- timing out -- DS -- let's see at and to get money. Deleting I now how did so much promise and -- in range. So. -- -- would not be completed we did talk about iPhone five what we have to talk today it is the fourth birthday of the iPhone. -- -- and preventing us. So Obama for years ago Tuesday. Let's say it's free card from different -- -- that the first iPhone was released at 6 PM and -- times and you're I think you remember Jerry and you yes that was a busy busy today -- -- -- -- -- -- -- which even now I buy gas for years ago for years ago and huge crowd outside the Apple Store and that writing -- blog. Post later. People search against the Palestinian expect window and people are searching and and it's flattened against the wind to turn it. That it -- anyway. I am so fourth anniversary the iPhone but of course we are such talk about it from five or whatever it's gonna be whatever it is iPhone five iPhone for -- we really don't own or that's the latest -- -- -- -- is actually the latest -- is only one. Now it's yesterday's terms associated to keep up to a rumor says that episode Tuesday and also yesterday's might sound what I did as a key piece together -- all of the iPhone rumors that we've tracked this year and -- in the iPhone five rumors started immediately after the iPhone four hours and produced by. -- Contradict each other allies -- we said most some -- to some same line. Things like a curved glass screen and things will have. A faster processor -- megapixel camera. Time lines can be artists use October. Property stated some claim that we have supplier problems that's where they're from that's -- meaning that summer launched. We'll have bigger screen immediate better screen so there's a lot here mechanical room is interesting to see him altogether. Because it just shows that -- -- can't believe anything here Steve Jobs. So that's where the Wall Street Journal that's -- -- And most some say will have the same design as the iPhone spot spot for. With some very subtle changes to the antenna possibly. Or it will have. This one it's on a -- drive that the -- -- to tapered design it's it's -- at the top and an. Atom. I know it's against the -- I think September. It's very likely but I honestly now my -- isn't telling me what it's gonna be agreed and -- and it's considering that iPhone analysts fine. And bringing a line. I'm thinking maybe it's. -- can be completely. I'm thinking is -- I'm thinking they do really is east -- of just a minor update kind of phone you won't be a five -- a five disk it's a very scenario number. It would be a forum yet you have a fluorescent affords yes what I'm -- comment but but it is a fighting has to be like. -- -- the big landmark kind of phones and it's gonna be this or next year. Anderson gave a senate term and Apple about Apple said no iphones this year Apple hasn't specifically said dot. In -- community to see your iPhone at the -- -- but they just said. I mean Apple does not giving any kind of advance forecast about anything I don't say well maybe in the -- or we'll talk to you and a couple weeks. And they announce it when they announced it so there's an Apple event September. But there should be there is every year. It should deal -- the usage as the iPods. So the thinking is because the iPhone and iPod are so similar -- the iPod -- is so similar -- when Mexico 1000. -- argued that one of Mexico really Mexico anyway I'm. Because they're so similar that they're really gonna group those together and say okay -- here we have two new versions they both get IOS five. And -- area so we'll see. Right well more for us including some -- after this break. And we're back but we're gonna start up that second part of -- -- record view of the camps and art and ultimately. Had this Sampson dart isn't -- for T-Mobile -- -- wanted to latest entry of Apple budgets and it's available for free. And -- two year contract does and a hundred something less discount says boot. The completely free -- after you click the buy it but it's but it's a small little compact -- had it's it's more compact. And three point one inch screen to -- -- on the small side. The resolution is not the greatest is -- Q -- displays is not really super high -- anything like that but again history. So -- No real complaints there. It has Android 2.2 it runs on -- TouchWiz interface beaches. The state to -- it is it is very iPhone like in the -- we demean and you. He's navigated the -- -- -- -- -- the news pages instead of spinning up and down you wouldn't at regular Android phone. Overall -- like it and note I do like the overall form factor and features -- pretty good forum. A free phone essentially you'd get Wi-Fi and Wi-Fi hotspots by you to get the usual -- TPS on of that. My only concern my only concern is that the screen is. Treaty basic like. Does resolutions can -- for the screen size is pretty small. And now because Steve -- because the screen size is two point one inch to point nine inches when you bring up the virtual keyboard is half the screen. Q what does -- have to -- typing it out those little bit. About it there remember -- again and thinking about it not -- hacked. While settlements here don't -- I think the reason behind -- because the whole phone is plastic to the screen is passed. So because it's a plastic screen vs. Not as responsive as -- news as -- class display. -- because of them apart cheap -- -- again for entry level budget Smartphone it's really not bad especially for the price right. I think you know what he bobbled the celled algae optimists key acting -- a little better and that's free -- -- So Levy cap EB have a choice BT and T phones -- -- -- -- for the optimist teams that. But you know if it does is it this if you -- the -- -- entries for some reason it is a very it it it is it is easier and easier to understand. Easier to understand verses in stock and in face. This but the only thing I would say -- separates this from from the other budgets. -- -- Look at BH TTE seven -- For US cellular which is basically nine Donald Altman and retraining at eight easier -- which came out for sprint about Freeman and says this is the line with that three point six inch. To be VGA screen -- it's also Windows Phone. So you'll see the Windows Phone 7 operating system on -- all the -- I keyboard pretty comfortable and then the screen also haven't really -- thirty degree eat whole team. Against component. Of the screen -- and -- -- I was really good for watching media. The screen quality isn't as good as what -- -- on the market now only Q I hold it up to you. The Samsung Focus which is also a Windows Phone and the colors actually -- on now and in. This Green -- to look at smaller of course the -- doesn't have a pretty keyboard it's only touch screen. So that might have something to do -- that as well. I I would say I don't know if anything -- stood out the camera quality and in quite is -- either and there is to sort of like when -- arrived first came out I think of as much better then what the same phone is now entering a market. If that makes any -- Basically ready for an expansion of Windows Phone and -- kind of fell compared to from the competition. But I do you really like that US cellular -- offering some choice this is their first Windows Phone and -- treatments just integrated. Q Blackberry -- and more amber and in terms of the Smartphones so it's it's nice to see some of that and it -- US cellular and it's a phone that I. Wouldn't mind having. If Irene US cellular customer and and I -- in windows and it's definitely not about line and as somebody who reviews these phones all day. I am ready for the next batch of windows phones stick to coming -- like -- and quality of the screen and in a may be about the camera a little -- and and definitely ready for Mingo in the fall so. Giving anybody who gets -- -- law also noticed improvements when -- is released in the fall. -- -- entertainment equipment Ford's. And then we also had -- by technical. He mobile it tissue -- Vs the HTC's -- were TVs were both editors' choice award winners. Yes so the it's it's it's -- she did these two phones are essentially very similar to ease price that was done now with me. Bonnie and Brian -- list price -- And added two very similar -- it's it's you both have to dual core processors to both you know the used symbols -- -- G network. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- a bit better than the key to exit the display and -- an event that but they're very evenly matching the only no differences -- that association authority has some. If TC sense UI a and -- to access to stock and again reaching each each begins -- -- has -- -- -- up to 2.3. While the 2.3 update that and it should be coming. Down the -- pretty soon. So Tom -- pretty evenly matched. And as you receive unit if you go into the price I'd be silent review -- -- -- -- but the winner -- -- by zero point one point. -- so -- could put that. There's -- common in our -- that the HT -- -- wine. An editor's choice award because in love with -- -- -- It might build of them are complicated and in -- We've said before sort of when it comes to you customization on the screen. It it really is a matter of personal preference -- all four of us might have our own personal preferences and and you will have your preference. We tend -- like. Stock and trade it in Leo kind of agreement. I mean I also like -- And touch -- is I think has improved. I don't mind him most the time especially hiking kind of visually jazz up the screen name at the immediate benefit of -- stock is dentists is easier to use. Update Julie. So upcoming reviews I'm gonna be taking a look at the Samsung for under which I have right here it is air repeat basic messaging. And eight uses Samsung's proprietary operating system which we have not -- -- long long time. Maybe for good reason why you won't -- -- and -- didn't. Medical you're gonna take a look at the LG Genesis. Yes the -- Genesis this. Sort of the bake -- there aren't the big update -- -- and B series of -- for Verizon if you remember those. -- -- -- messaging -- -- of the Smartphone version in the Android version. Yes he -- testing on France and then it opens. Mean -- pretty and then -- and then that the task in the middle of this kind. Taken. -- Took I don't like I did not awake -- me back -- and that it housed the two touch screen by yet but are not side by side it actually it. And -- that the top and underbelly via. Well I think we've got time for at least one question and maybe to you this one's friend Jenna. -- -- AT&T and would like to have a ninth highest and smart and but can't afford a data plan as a possible to negotiate with the sales reps and stores to see if they you can get -- smart -- with out a data -- I think -- -- didn't. These stories you can negotiate I mean they're gonna make you sign up for it that the data plan that usually in this story through. If the web store yet it's not as pretty standard across the of those -- -- -- get a lot actually. And the only solutions that I've sort of heard people do is that the buy an unlocked and -- and the music and that the use the sim card at the company teens in edited and -- -- -- -- -- -- -- using. A Smartphone disease Wi-Fi free Wi-Fi you have but even then I think it's it's a little tricky you -- -- you never know if you might get. Detectives and -- But I don't think there's any negotiation and you can get it just doesn't care staring at bargain despite you'll like him barter and trade and would be nice -- it. -- But there moneymaker. Act -- I I want me to do it begins and an unlocked Smartphone just gimmick and and now. IPod Touch -- -- -- of those Wi-Fi only devices but I'm not sure that's possible. -- -- Is eligible for an upgrade on Sprint's. Was wondering which one's the best of the HTC arrive HTT -- treaty and the Motorola photon. And will all three of them receive updates for geared -- them I didn't speaks to the -- -- the arrive -- will receive the -- update in the fall. And I just was talking about its counterpart the way -- -- -- and grow. I would say if you really like Windows Phone. That. Because that's the only -- -- -- of the bunch. And then the -- and is in and out yet. Now it's not -- and as is -- -- and you know they ACC array of very nice phone but not. Doesn't have all the latest on CNN I mean yes the -- 3-D -- good sign has dual core processors and has a 3-D screen which -- -- -- The photon egg a kind of feel like the photon might be worth waiting just to see how well it says Adam it's coming out sometime this summer -- -- an exact release date. But it's also dual core and -- using Nvidia's dual core chipset which I think it's a slightly faster than the Qualcomm chipset which is. With Eva -- has and has a slightly better screens so. And I feel like in my -- Mexican embassy. However that when the farm and as far as updates for years to come. I wouldn't say years to come and -- a you know this bill be -- get a couple updates but you know it comes a point where. You know hardware limitations. Are are gonna prevent further update though. -- it's kinda hard to say it'll it'll continue to get updates for this many years and it depends on echo unit OS. But the -- -- the phone the better chance you have that it will receive an update. Ray yet and yet I do have to say though with that you 3-D and services to for the time each tends to have a better track record of updating to firmware at the Motorola. Did you just because I think -- Motorola's sort of learn you write has to be a little bit more intrusive than a more integrated into the phones -- -- A data as easily as a HTC sense UI I guess. It's a -- to think of the think about but I would wait to see how -- -- -- shakes out maybe you could leak from it. So that's it for this week. 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