Dialed In #166: 4G duke-outThe Dialed In team swings punches at an underperforming 4G operator that inspires our ire in this week's CNET podcast.
It's Wednesday march 15 2011. You're listening to dialed in an album podcast I'll be here today -- the adult court here in studio here but -- -- with Kent German. And it only. We've got on -- New York. And technical provide dot beneath her doing all of and -- there yet there's. -- -- -- -- Nearly -- incredible -- in the -- and ended most of the book to bill the suspension -- and you can't if she's there -- -- there's -- there. And agree we kind of -- for government. And in between the call of the show check back on -- and -- and -- Thankfully such -- here don't have nothing about it that's a good day. -- it's a good week -- a little bit of a quiet week at eye of the storm. After mobile world congress afterthought -- -- -- technical you went back and a client as well as it might elicit. It was -- big effect many thousand people interactive alone. And -- -- In previous fears. I think that's -- was 141000 people so this is a tiny state with twenty to 30% and got -- must be just completely overrun yet. -- I mean it's not believe the city is not just visitors to the spring break right so you download college kids walking around too so it's like. It's like in its in seen incentives -- hard to find her town yes very soon be just like -- to slated to go in Renton. The department the second and -- of the -- that -- -- -- my price range. I had -- but with its a lot of fun it's. Lot of unit Justine startups. And getting it getting around. You know it's isn't the thing is dubbed the sharpest in so many people at 09. Doesn't always happen we always get that discuss them and -- I no doubt that -- real thing man he. Authorities -- I haven for for you payment every conference if you start from the beginning at like -- you have here yeah that true authentic. Material is definitely. Simple and that the it's -- that they're growing is gonna bet that they know you can't in the -- intimate as before but. I.'s commitment house at this and missed and -- the best thing that you thought. Look south by southwest is about people interacting with that of my friends I haven't seen attracting and -- interactive gadget injected. I relationships. But fees to -- to meeting people face to face it just like crazy bad that's the point is not without them. And you into thinking in terms of cellphone related and posting like how would -- hard to get to -- teen's key in. Connecting in general because there's so many -- -- and examining -- -- the rest -- the -- subject and but. It's not -- he -- out some extra towers or something that I -- -- -- -- my AT&T service -- with -- -- was great right now and I think you must have ruled -- a -- and have something must have done something because -- -- -- heard more than one comment about -- thing you know every minute. Clinton had need to music -- yeah the opposite of every other -- experience man -- And also because -- you with a big the big deal linseed thyme and that. Was again you know -- he was not -- -- AT&T not bad that's not bad this time. Quite a slogan 000. Often was one of the few places that has it's Sprint's four G. WiMax and that also -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- It's you have part in -- -- -- and yes -- next to the text Mexican -- it. Well it's the next week -- -- to the. Culinary union -- in part -- Orlando right which is also why were in the eye of the storm we've got CT IA coming up next week. But. A lot let -- -- but -- we're discussing before it. A little quiet CM so far. -- I think that -- a problem. Was he -- and that's in an -- they're actually moving it to Manny. And that's canopy -- islands in an -- much to consumers and I'm glad you know we take it because we go to CS that's huge big bang and then we -- mobile congress the past few years US companies began to realize what congress really it's a place. To have a big US presence of -- -- -- products for the US market carriers get there are so. It's a -- Verizon it had approved this year because the north east that's where the government -- -- -- about both. But in it and you get so much there by the time people get to -- K -- a little tired and I think. Manufactures that -- -- they don't. There's kind of scene at the ship media's impact -- him. Following recent -- to make -- to give a little -- get a little rest period to elaborate on that. Build more products build up some more buzz is right now people -- still think. So who wins the undergo wins the original as the Droid pro wins all the stuff that we -- at -- and and you know they wanna continue that so I am right now we know that we will see some things from Samsung -- department on -- FaceBook -- of some sort of a -- I'm a system in there and pretty serenity systems from HTC cores. There's gonna -- print event. Yes right and the last hour HQ and a half hour -- -- that I do not know digital cities it and possibly tie -- an -- demos and hopefully some finger foods to revive that after the well there's no lighting for that -- -- for further into yeah okay is. That has -- -- and then there is being entirely agree hours. There's going to be known for its its gonna be up. Long press conference about how something. -- what -- you when you're looking for and itself. You know ACC that you know they always can't let their carriers. Talk about their products but you know -- rumored to -- the evo. -- I think and that evo view. Which is rodeo division at ever higher grade. Then it'll be -- for -- Canadian offer look at the T-Mobile sidekick forgy which -- -- -- and coming from Samsung this time around cents we'll talk about that little bit later. Nokia's having event on Monday evening before -- -- starts -- it sounds like they're gonna and push the -- and the new US solutions whenever I mean. So. -- meant every US but I'm doing and you wind up paying really -- Yeah I mean I know I feel really alone while. To a few dozen windows phone devices from encampment yeah yeah and they've said they're so committed to Symbian and will fuel comes -- of that. -- And is Sony Ericsson. Shuttle have a lot because you know how to be mobile congress of course and then press the experience plates -- com. Meaning developing. DC did you see this. You don't efforts and to the sites that -- Motorola. But looking for mature Motorola right now I think I'm not -- a lot of buzz and. You're dampen a couple of lake leaked photos of what appears to be -- -- -- know that threaten -- and apparently a Droid XT you. But and does not a lot of information aside from what we can glean from the blogs and you and then it. -- announcing. And LGL Gmail have something coming -- this wound so. You think they could have the US version of opt in and yes that's what the buzz is about yet. -- -- -- CS -- coverage where oh so we'll well get in amending men are covered the show begins Tuesday in earnest that we will are comfortably can. Pretty much went -- because of again. So yeah -- HP -- we. I don't think we've heard anything much from them because they did announce -- HP three very. May affect the heart and yet -- -- -- yeah but Citigroup agree yeah. -- -- -- -- So they are -- at mobile world congress and buy it. Our reporter -- I did -- see you in each -- summit yesterday. And HP has big plans for webos. This CEO. -- -- A man who. It off now if Apple would take care and put it in the because he -- German company announced that it applicator. And so he got happens -- and things you learn from Jessica -- Now -- of America completely evident and I'm like okay you're gonna have to help me a pronunciation spearheading know clinic in Iran and of course again and I getter. But I'm sure -- used her. So. Webos is is a big plan and their -- gonna take a page from Apple's back and create an ecosystem for each speaker products. So this summer it will expand of course cute the touchpad tablet in addition to view the Smartphone devices like the -- -- the pre -- about what I'm gonna opt for now and pre to pre -- on a thank you you have good next year. They also expect to see -- added -- -- of the windows PCs and from the printers that each piece fell with our broader development for. Hundred million devices next year that is the target number. But take care -- HP to have this unifying copper -- formally Apple. And if you thought from the commercial entity that with a touchpad -- and -- We know -- -- hold it up and there's a lot of -- communication between them. And -- up and an idea and then there's a broader vision outlook with something that each. Comparable to mobile similar concepts. Exactly so I've that's HP is up -- months as they've told us regarding their webos strategy and in recent times so. But we'll have to look -- -- -- -- -- Now it's a lot actually. And you can hear it you know with that -- on preaching he had seen. So that's -- -- -- do you have anything in and today. I wouldn't be surprised that they had a bit to show off everything analyst at mobile world congress sounds like they're just gonna you know. -- the pre three in the -- air in the open yet they -- -- -- -- of constant. So often attempting away from that in into something a little bit legal and legal you have something more if there. Yes so last week it bill was introduced in the senate and the house to. At the time and the dominant -- to ban new wireless taxes to state and local taxes and this is coming it's propped up in the last couple congressional office and listen to -- may 2009 never really -- the committee. But I this time I mean we are seeing units that will ban. So it knew I -- Texas currency or new state or local taxes on wireless bills and are though good tech so the bill wasn't available when -- -- that -- -- wrote the story last week. The previous versions of the bill didn't apply to new federal taxes send him that -- cuts and -- -- but statement government can't. And you might have -- and they wouldn't when applied to the universal service fund which -- -- service and room local low income communities so. So that's is the little little legal nuisance legislation are we -- in congress and -- capacity. Courtesy -- -- paper. So there's some good news for neighbors -- the minority advancement of relief the -- asking. Me. It's. I -- you -- did you know I got your vehicle is very happy. Well I Canada. Netscape which is now but it isn't going to you and specific. We all are greater. Army entered -- here possibly even then the minor -- -- as well as audiences around. Simply to keep the -- -- Dock entry 2.3. Different interface. It will ship to Canada later this month and four and early April -- Pricing and hasn't been yet to be in town that will probably come with a Wi fi here with no one dollars camp did. And apparently they'll be according to its. Article by Scott yeah eighties he says that they need the EB. Yeah we're hearing rumors -- rumors yeah Chris grant for its main idea -- That and this would be of course having the last time we -- the Nexus One it was those succumbed some -- -- right -- and protect. Right they canceled Preston mindset has to be the first time that we've seen an access device it just comes -- and there's rumors of citizens today. Not that it would be the first time assuming carriers. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Her. And their other product -- news that is also much awaited the HT -- honorable at that price and launch state. Yes finally. So this is gonna be Verizon's first LTE four -- Smartphone. Is gonna be available -- tomorrow. Board Q 4999. With a further six contact Patrick and it is -- -- -- to be immediately after it. Well. I don't think that I got it today actually read here with them in -- it it's wrapped in black actually just. Plain black box that -- -- but you know so again this is. Verizon's first four G phone in their promising download speeds of around five megabit per second to twelve megabit per second and uploaded -- to five. Massive. It is impressive and it so far it's been delivering you know I just can -- fuel tests today and and it's been going from six megabit per second and it -- -- but -- Sixteen point seven. Locked up and down it is -- yes I mean that -- super it's pretty dead there. To upload speeds at. In -- reducing really funky here on the speed tests patent apps though. And an -- you know he's an animal hat by and hopefully get more realistic movement and reading on that. And some other things to note about the venerable it has -- unique chipset so it will supports simultaneous voice India over three G. Firsts Verizon phone that can -- nineteen sell -- now that you know brains at all you can do it on our three G phones but with Wi-Fi it's different he didn't your mother and I am not -- nothing not where I know you're. But I -- you can't let it out anyway yet but this is the first that'll be able to do it over this area -- -- It's -- -- this is something unique TH TC tenable and it has that tips that. Don't know whether the other than their other three -- four -- phones and then as you revolution in joint plan we'll have that as well it. It is on the -- And a four point three inch WV GA touch screen and a front facing one point three megapixel camera for video calls. There's been some debate over whether. You know comes with Skype it actually says it has Skype -- -- owner's manual home -- it. It doesn't come preloaded on the device and emanated from the Android market it says it doesn't port. I mean it does. And China confronts not dad and I did -- an email from another media attack. I don't know if you've heard isn't just contained no -- Yes it says he does support and supported on this though I think -- bacteria way to go for any attack as -- and now there though. But there -- -- it -- what kind of like quick yeah -- I haven't tried that yet but it sounds like that. Yeah I -- Tango for half an uncommon because my mind -- still focused on I -- the act yet and that little meant that in over the printing Eric. They have to pull maintenance. A it Pinkett you know it's expand on so many of Verizon's phone that maybe they just. You created edited for gas in Africa -- can't -- unite I just tried it once and then departed. Then key that he asked and as far as data plan and the carnivals and require. Voice and data and the voice plans 39 point nine -- The data plan right now it's unlimited four G for 29 -- nine month but it -- -- that eventually. It also can do mobile -- by -- And then afterwards you have to pay an additional twenty dollars per month for two gigabytes which is -- standard for the mobile. That's the most critical that we have the unlimited four G man now I know where but don't -- yes I'll take it -- consider anything get -- six megabytes. Second downlink that's yeah I -- a lot. -- must ethylene anyway you want -- -- candidate -- exact idea definitely. You know through parts that -- their hardware is a lot like the evo four GE. Next couple days and there it goes so far thumbs up or thumbs down. Different -- you know battery life is gonna be considered everybody's -- of course that of course I just added and I can't because it yet. Healthy but thumbs up so far. So I -- super yet -- -- definitely has been well. So some other relief they indeed -- revealed for the T-Mobile sidekick -- -- and other parts right. Yet so this is the revamp of the sidekick line that. I can't just -- electric service. Yeah I call the site Kate it and -- its mind yet. It's actually many Android this -- -- -- global. He 2.2 -- They wouldn't talk about whether it was going to be a -- to do 2.3 days and that you pointed spam is it then -- -- the screen and -- Right now it and its bite -- -- -- yet flight that bank that it was an actual swivel screen but I was told I think it's actually -- up and everything about the site can -- that. Yeah fund gas kick flip and they can they've kept feminists. Sidekick. Characteristics like the five row keyboard and unify the four buttons on the corners. This time around though it's been my infants share. Sell at a couple things of note it the first -- have a touch screen. It also has four G capabilities and -- the it can hit theoretical bandwidth is at 31 megabit per second link and -- authority. And that and that you know it could be potentially faster than the forty -- which he might act forgy. And -- yup opponent this and -- it means. It looks like it'll support mobile app a keeper there yes that's what it. Asked also front facing camera for -- video chats with quick video tech but like I lowered the science and where. -- human -- three megapixel camera. The enhanced the messaging capabilities and I have group tax Aikman's and that. -- group of people as well as your location and photos. Speculate that if after gaining -- definitely need I I would like. Tennis -- hero going here. Now let me -- and because it's Sampson used to get on the -- media hub. Yes so you can yet down -- entertainment movies rent and buy movies. -- they told me it's running TouchWiz but -- it's slightly. Different. More of a -- -- And -- metadata -- -- could have an effect but that -- Aaron have yet but it TouchWiz underneath. And and then -- their text messaging feature they have -- a contacts which is a web apps they can. -- send and receive text messages from computer via YouTube. I think the key to success of this would be pricey which yeah don't wish we don't know yet in our availability date -- -- this spring it. -- the -- that point it's. Especially activity aimed at at -- youthful audience yes they can't mess this thing needs to be affordable -- -- and re act has. Uniting as kind of the -- of the cameras that aims its its like sensible ones found him. -- -- -- -- PLC that he seeing me. In and I'm -- They were not mean -- you yet because you had a -- Thing about foraging in particular at AT&T. Add -- -- and and and a mounting for you know HTC inspired four G in the Motorola -- expertise AT&T'S earth. Orgy. He asked if but -- -- and tonight that. These phone accede -- their upload speeds have been. Pretty much -- -- you know they're limited means because they haven't enabled the -- EPA realignment. Which allows for those faster upload speed. And this came after you know customer that filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and and so eighteenth he issued this statement saying. Be sure that -- he has not capped the upload speeds and eat it or exceed. Flag you know -- agency PH device but we're currently performing protecting preparations necessary -- -- When we turn this feature on and you continue to -- -- has managed to get districts I had an. -- It will have that. But yes that means nothing. I mean -- -- essentially Kent island for other I've seen -- -- -- -- excited I. I found -- -- -- and analysts cited isn't in the nation -- Mac because this was -- Germany. Clear from the beginning bait very you know advertising needs than -- -- four G phones and it's clear that -- of the phone for eBay. And that's constantly looks. A craft a -- and calling it. I mean they're pushing this forever and -- -- and -- they had at CT antsy estimate they've been made a big point and people call them at the time it's the senate. Well you know this feeling isn't for a genius and estrogen through there and announced origins Regina and economic opponent and -- -- -- Right and -- -- even Blake. Yet it's not -- If -- -- -- that's the big downside I think people are upset about you know eight. And we've experienced in our own testing. I gave our numbers we got 150 -- bits per second. On that -- four G1 eighty on that -- authority. IPhone four I tested. This yesterday got 850 of its -- and so. In -- pretty big difference and -- -- -- earth yet and they're using and they're not really saying in Hawaii and it is. Dedicating and you easily and it went and then we are currently performing and tough to estimate and aspirations necessarily sync -- -- that you'll continue to have a world class experience just like being green oak death experience -- before. But that undermine your -- in a world class experience and yeah it's fine that they're testing but they should've made that very clear from the beginning. That it's not on. And at just the way they're advertising CD and a and you know it's caused online petitions and -- when the guys -- started petition. You know that's the whole point of why he bought -- -- and then to come home and in trend. Fiat and we just now I need bullying the -- -- it's -- name or what -- capable happiness -- And yet they're not really tiny matters -- homework and they're gonna turn it on -- you know all. Why didn't they just stick into their statements now. I don't think it's -- and. As some in the comments to block was -- -- Lot of comments actually one of the comments and me to see a very soon -- seeing that. Nugget distinct disputed as four GH expertise -- even though we note that definition authorities cannot -- but. It is smaller than the three G devices right now and what happens in early in the meaning -- used at heat rises in the -- this is the real party in that of those. You take -- you don't -- tell it yes yes forty plus new and improved is no longer. Pray. -- -- they -- the layer on and on later. It's been anything it's unfortunate because. It -- you know the model that -- and the inspired great device then I feel like. They're getting kind of a bad name because of AT&T -- -- you know now -- is a -- he's going yeah right. The device manufacturers but -- it's not right. -- this is entirely on -- TAT and T shoulders through yet and -- it and that's a shame because there because -- keep messing up. It that it expected often. -- -- could. -- -- -- -- -- -- is unfortunate that. He didn't you did you're right because this advertising is as. There's nothing in there in their promotional -- two -- -- is justice for now the gravity. And enabling this for now via community leaders. The only fine print they have on their commercials -- -- -- you know. Fourteen when you bring -- in the back on that but there's nothing it's just that timing thing you know it if they -- looking at the numbers -- -- -- -- a good time of year. There's momentum and we wanna put the phone out sell the phone you know and then when people have bought the phones and they are having their hand in -- locked under contract the will be. Fair value of any solicitation. An -- and and I -- There is happy because I can't get any other PR initiative that would support in -- it doesn't make. It. Well that's that Miami. The good news is that's not gonna view the only -- -- by a long shot available people and certainly not. For Verizon. Scott Webster -- a -- -- how Branson has plenty of Android phones to get them through the summer. Yes is there is here there's talk about. Whether Verizon was going to say well we know we -- ramps up -- Now we now we have the iphone's we're gonna go back and -- and bad don't seem to be the case because it looks like we -- these previously that we have. That the technique and and the Droid X to an Android three don't -- a lot of changes to those to variety. Changes those devices over the original are written in the latest -- models. My Droid X two is gonna faster dual core processor and then and -- -- state split and QHD display. It's we see -- a lot of the Motorola devices and then -- look like may have the might remind of the Droid incredible to. And again this is more like an evolution -- revolution is that says. But should have slightly better processor and large and bigger memory in the from them. And so yeah we'll see hopefully the city's mean we'll see more of these -- today but it looks like Verizon isn't dialing back looks like they're gonna give the iPhone and Android and couldn't. Wishful -- Manhattan yen. Which is nice -- it for them to be. -- now we have an area that I found -- we don't have to worry about it. Then. Well stick -- a -- -- -- break -- come back with the reviews including the Dell venue and he needs TV freestyle. Don't. CBS radio's award winning all new stations are always live and online 24/7. XCBS radio dot com. Welcome back we're gonna take a look now Bonnie Cha has trees you'd be -- Sanyo which is not to be confused with -- -- new program on a great thing. Fact I -- that yeah yeah yeah -- proudly -- don't feel that. Yet now you shouldn't because they pretty much -- the fame the differences that they'll menus does not have a -- out keyboard and it's running Android 2.2 instead of windows phone. But you know they do look very admire you I do like the design and it's a little more profitable without the keyboard -- little thinner. And lighters so that night and has nice four point one -- -- dvd and talent which means. An and a bit of -- curved surface which. Now. How much of you know. What that really brings Spain united as it -- easy to use in very responsive. That being. It is using and customize your way it's Els stayed in. What they do they think -- Present you can apps and and of the grid view -- recent photos music and a -- I I think it. I've grown -- like in it was it makes reference but I do wish it. There is a little bit more ethnicity in -- bars you know resizing the which is because they both green. Canal which it was a model planes and you can -- line. -- Buy it you know and the rest suspects appear much like other Android phones Android 2.2. And a one gigahertz -- -- says it ran pretty smoothly. It's -- eight megapixel camera. -- -- -- -- -- Which is an effort to NN you know all the pictures and it came easy even outdoors yet -- that's you know. And exited AAF how it for the megapixels display not at a good thing for its software thing yeah announcer -- yes. Though a thousand fortunate that your pictures -- about a outside they're not they get any better in my and they -- it's exactly. Unlikely you. Yes and so. Some shortcomings -- that I think makes. I mean if you're looking at an unlocked Android phone I think you're gonna be better off getting -- exit path. And just because it has about a camera head injury 2.3 gingerbread if clan and the -- -- if you like that snow. And says if you're gonna spend much many would -- would spend maybe an extra three dollars ticket and nexus. -- That's the Dell -- -- and her prognosis. I don't yeah I mean it's. On the one hand and it's such an improvement over the Dell -- that I given credit for that but you know -- wouldn't be my first earth as far as Android phones everything. But she didn't say -- but Macs are running get a Dell venue pro I did not the perfect -- I mean that lets you telling me if you. -- -- eight and depend on if you want windows phones is. Can't it took a look at the HTC prix style. Yes now the signatures he found me on and it -- -- he has been vary. I'm big on their Smartphones -- maiden -- here in the US in this found puzzled them for the that's actually quick messaging device it looks a lot like some Android phones are just some. Smartphones we've seen for me to see it has a basic assignment -- the touch screen a little smaller -- It's built really well it has a nice solid feel -- efficiency certificates but that -- succeed here. -- it is running through which is when usual for GSM side of race -- -- from just ramp room. Some of it looks like in straight in a way you have the seven home screens in multiple menu pages. -- -- me interior menus and settings menu that -- view looks a lot like Android itself. Probably they're going for gas. It does it's not quite the same you don't get some behind features are coding that it doesn't have -- -- -- or -- which. -- problem because you had -- press a button to its screen to switched -- so old school. And doesn't expect it CNN right well and has a proximity sensor around -- considering a lot of more basic phones and that's are closely sponsor this caliber of an X or under. It was or mutual and -- -- it was a -- usability thing it licenses it to the zoning you know it was pressed button. Buttons -- and keeping tabs premeditated actions you know I'm sure that they were trying to I'm sure they were trying to just keeping an -- but it. I just don't know I just wish they had -- -- cut corners there. They don't have Wi-Fi as well. Much if -- could trying to get used to it's armament was weird. There -- lack of speaker -- is barely usable. And they did just. Really -- for all these apps you don't -- there's Leo -- there's the it's in the app for evening news to map Leo its mobile and it's just it just feels very happy. And just like winemaking you know -- -- -- onscreen movements and screens movie. And that's where -- -- while papers and it's just. I don't like I don't need to stuff from my phone MacKinnon won it with him and when you put it on there and you crowd and you just click quite -- the menus you crowd out other applications like literally -- like Wi-Fi. It just I don't quite yet so I mean you get where you get -- -- TP as you get. A couple games that it just demo version so it's it was just way too much on the phone for just. If it was a quick messaging device and just keep it is that keyboard also presents huge -- -- -- a black background generalized and like most -- excellent so it's. I think you're getting its for the right person if you want that smart phone experience you don't think over the data plan. You wanna touch screen you -- -- -- -- and our biggest problem right -- fun health looks pretty and yet again tonight on -- models with a permanent. You know adding for the right person that succeeds but if you definitely want. If you -- found it has a little more. Well more features for one thing. And just a little easier to use then yeah you -- to get the data plan -- the orbit I would just upgrading to some -- And not to mention that a lot of Smartphones are around 200 dollars -- -- -- -- or -- -- thirty yes. At a dollar into my president and -- percent. And I think -- -- at -- -- -- -- -- -- I take a look at the Kyocera domino. There's a version for MetroPCS comes in purple and wondered where cricket wireless icons and champagne gold. And I did not like that because it's okay LA if they are today and again. I just hit the front -- -- Jessica's hand before she smashed. And let out terribly much by the dozens of iPod Touch -- -- hammer it Xena and I thing. Flip the phone down instantly. It actually doesn't seem very terrible -- and I like. And its its release -- Flynn kind of laughable at a department but it's just that them. And that -- -- biggest problems -- had a problem isn't that it is a feature found. It doesn't have a camera that would have a lot of things but that's okay and call quality was -- care. And that's kind of what you really wanna have some -- however. There -- a couple things that really -- it. Over that edge of the -- Q it's -- The wow that's. Let's. The train -- installed are too small one point eight inches it. Relieved relieved really low resolution at the quarter QB team revelation. Of the fuzzy -- -- And that might help keep it cheap as well -- -- it. It -- make me wanna look at it especially if you are to be anything from about Turkey via Athens. Or cricket -- out on for -- -- the browser or Diane. Are other things you know even just doing a little bit of a browser search you have to scroll down and down and down and down to finish looking at one single result. And so I don't really think that it's usable at all. Up kind of machine and then -- the navigation array is really -- now if you're gonna offer phone with good call quality. And it's gonna be simple make it really UPD -- we can use it if I am impressed as buttons. And don't make it. In hand with the third of our experience and then I also felt like they're available that in fall added injury because the -- almost -- spitting image of the moment we've seen before. And that would be the Jack. And the navigation area slightly different. The call quality seems much better at least on the metric -- the F version I tested. It it just seems like you're there really had an opportunity to view listen to view -- complaints before because he reviewed app model. And we -- came to the same conclusions many of them. And in that they had an opportunity to upgrade from and its features and it didn't file. And adding that there's nothing wrong with me and basic on the district's Chrome then they get you know you're gonna -- -- -- -- -- I know there's a crowd of people out there is no time for this kind of phones but yeah I mean there -- some people that do they just wanna phone it just. Makes calls but. You have just as Wright missed this if you're gonna do that at least make it easy use and -- and at least make it come Turbo in ergonomic and a screen and actually look. -- -- -- -- -- Actually the video will be a pretty things as you want you can come as is that a good -- I know. I -- to -- throw you throw it against the well maintained proper compartment. As a factor -- the whole thing as editor. National yeah. And -- -- -- -- are pretty it's quite nice and I am just didn't know the resident Jessica suffers for her art equipment and so -- negative. We have good news for about an upcoming reviews with some more interesting and funny you're gonna link at the HT -- honorable that we write up earlier beaten. In all of its four -- -- non project learn that. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And I'm going to look at the HTC arrived for sprint misses and renews. And summoned the -- -- -- -- right here. And sort of crowning feature is a tilting screen and it. And when I first lifers to connect the box and I thought as a because it's lit up straight. To operate as I'm pretty sure it has the tilt the screen if you -- you how to make very slowly and all day and I okay. Many of -- like to see the thing like -- -- -- I -- element in the yet yuppies and do -- that. Yeah I know I've kind of been messing around a little bit with a hinge so critic construction looks pretty and it's yeah its metal is -- -- -- -- into. -- -- -- But and -- -- enact and I keep looking at it and and it doesn't really and it doesn't slip her slide at all ethnic one direction and not very far. So hopefully that -- and I mean all already -- kind of concerned about the -- -- and again we have me and I haven't really talked myself. Exactly have a smoothly move it -- Might I'm keeps slipping I don't know if it's just something that -- need to learn how to do a unique -- -- get a feel offered to buy it and bringing her age it's her hands and you're using it. So hopefully -- have the review by -- come back. And we have a couple questions and -- market as well. Sherman an Oakland wants to know in 2011 and why it is the dream phone for each of -- Now. He -- -- -- non -- your dream and I personally I don't know my dream planning that I was like a little bit of this little bit from column a little bit from column B. I think my dream -- would have to have good battery life better then again maybe a day and a half. That's the problem -- that's the problem with -- we see so many -- that when -- -- -- Let me anymore. I mean I think. IE in I -- really. -- that is going to hear about the component troubles -- matrix and forgy. It's because. I really thought that phones since I was blown away by it says at CES and course at the promise he has not the time of the way that -- in the comes out personally. -- -- And I just love the idea that I -- accessories but then you -- -- they do these things would be throwing these features throughout the throttle back. Four G speeds they don't -- -- -- they download the third party apps. It just it just destroys that experience and makes so much worse than a minute by the phone like the matrix and neglected has this great accessories as -- -- And -- Past and just lives up to its name. Rain and get the basic rate my good call quality without any -- or -- instructions don't sacrifice. Other unions for her -- and now the -- and reliable your name yeah. And -- camera just you're just asking for -- Dining room it may also have -- easy to please you did -- here's an IR blaster. But -- I agree with. In a -- a battery life is a big issue you know and -- you know of continued. -- data speed you know like this dependable -- it's been really refreshing to get -- -- to be. So yeah I yeah I mean there's. Lots of stuff I want that some of the basics I and would be happy with them. Down doubles in the details and have. -- -- -- -- Three questions actually there's a trio here -- first of all is there truly a large difference between the -- in the both are -- without dual core. Though you know ice up -- dive deep into the -- but so far. The big difference fencing in the forty speed no. You know like -- and -- getting -- it has sixteen megabit per second down. And when we tested the -- we averaged around three point fourteen megabit per second and so there is a bit of different and speed and Mikey said -- dependable as the lean and tedium of TDMA phones -- -- -- can do you simultaneously submitted yet. Yes which I mean the you know some people email -- -- that that's not a big deal the -- but. It is for some other people's yeah -- -- department but it's really useful when you're having you absolutely can't. And then as far as the other dual core phones. Galaxy -- by an ironic. -- what else -- out there but still president Ford says the antibiotic that he says the term threat Alicia. No parents is not to require adopters to access to local but that's no global -- idea alleges analogies coming out with -- A dual core from for the -- while. And -- anything -- can. -- he got the timing and they don't have any going to be more profit happy here yet Venus fiscally more coming -- and me and I think and the benefit of units dismissed media gets. A chance to get more Netflix support -- on more phones in -- that you can do more dual core phones I high hopes for the -- onyx. Yeah -- -- sprint -- yeah I think. I think that's one and you know this venerable discreet but I think some people are kind of plumbing William. And have -- that Democrats are now adding that Droid X two -- dual cores well. -- apparently picture. Firm if -- then the third question from John is about four G speeds things up sprint and Verizon are on the -- to true foraging. Mature collaborative and fast fast speeds -- we are promised. The Verizon has yet few relief phones to test -- -- What to customers expect report -- -- he -- he -- money it was -- that was it's a -- and -- solid evidence to say sixteen. -- but that's pretty do you know that it's really great and you know there's so many factors going into -- you know it has beaten you know. -- there where you are acting thing ranch and you know these carriers can I give an average range of what you should expect as far as brand they say a averages three to six megabit per second. And and I know and I -- -- the epic four G unison -- panic on around we'll learn. -- should you don't like you're getting like what you know I know what they're expecting -- the -- now. Again no IE eight unfortunately it can depends Olelo. That's kind of. The thing about these phones now the China don't think there's -- A typical. Yes -- that funny right. -- -- that are forgy test on. I -- -- sorry not our party tests are tests on the iPhone four for Verizon and AT&T we did include speed tests. And we got a lot of backlash from some readers -- -- saying all the sizes. You know how fast that isn't -- for -- ischemic. Yes exactly -- if that's the quiet and food business video and interactivity we have a lot of tech here. We have a lot of I would say probably a high incidence of Smartphone users and though our city is tested and any other city to test -- things. In this -- -- is the latest -- most of the press that covers these devices -- instances in in new York and I know began a lot of promising. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I cannot leave people even remember -- comment about whether -- Hillary and I just know because we can't get everywhere I went there but typically -- -- -- demolition and -- -- -- but at NASA have. I mean already that's an entire day yet for us to do that filming in four different spot for on the Bay Area and it is it was really can buy it and and it's just -- city. Unfortunately we don't have. Recently -- in people or the financial resources to test the phone in and -- he's phone's only serious around the country sent. We do have to -- their experience here but think the thing to remember though is that if we are in one of the worst cities. We are providing and the worst case scenario in some ways for these things so -- a lot of cases it can only get better. And re -- tests -- can. Tech -- I craft my Bonnie content has helped out the speed test while we only had one right yeah impetus replied it okay that have. And so in the future you know we'll do that we can yen and it definitely. -- at the thing was that. There really are a lot of factors bank and agency testing -- of -- Then you should always and that's and you can also announce it at any other -- email. 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