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CNET Live: March 12, 2009It's the Brian Tong show, with co-hosts Bonnie Cha, Donald Bell, the new iPod Shuffle, and a chocolate pudding pie.
[ Music ] ^M00:00:07 >> Coming up on CNET Live, I know I don't look like Tom at all, we've got the boom and the bell. >> First, I'll share a little Palm Pre and Pro new. >> And we've got the scoop on the newest iPod Shuffle. Plus, we've got a little battle of minds between Bonnie and myself. CNET Live, we start it up right now. ^M00:00:28 [ Music ] ^M00:00:32 What's up guys? Welcome to CNET Live. Bonnie Cha joining me on the set of the old guys are not here today. >> They are not. >> What are they doing? >> You tell me. >> They've actually told me they kind of--they were fed up with me and they wanted to leave the company. >> Well, I do not blame them, actually. >> Okay. We're taking over here. And since I'm over here, over in the house is Mr. Donald Bell right here. >> Whoop. >> Whoop. >> You're really excited to be here. >> I always bring the whoops to the CNET Live. >> Are you ready for the show today? >> Yes, I think so. >> Yeah, he's ready. He's ready to roll. So we will be taking your calls, as usual. >> Yep, we'll take your calls at 888-900-CNET. We'll probably focus on mobile phones, MP3 stuff and the Mac stuff. >> Yeah, just the stuff that we specialize in. I mean, we can obviously take Windows questions and other things, but we're going to do the best that we can here. >> Yep. >> But Linux drives on a thumb drive. No, I don't think that's going to--okay, also, you saw this pie here. It's a pudding pie. A caller today will decide the fate of what happens to that pie. We're going to play a little game, a test of minds between Bonnie and myself. And, I don't know, I'm exciting about that. >> I am. I'm excited to win. >> Or the fox face or whatever. >> Or whatever. >> Okay. >> But first, it's time for Things We Crave. >> All right, this is everything from the Crave blog at crave.cnet.com. This is one thing that I love. These are these earbuds from Japan. And I really like that. I'm not craving this. And basically in the earbuds, they're from Japan, they have infrared sensors. And I guess when you make facial expressions, it responds like to stop the track. So you can smile, and this is a potential concept in the future clearly. >> Okay. >> But yeah, I crave this kind of. >> Kind of? >> I crave that a lot. But the idea of the technology is good. >> Yeah. But you would actually, you know, smile or stick out your tongue. >> You know, using body gestures to do things is kind of, you know, a nice thing. >> Interesting. >> What do you got? >> I've got an At-At Walker Boombox. >> Oh, well, this guy here? >> Yeah, pretty cool, huh? So now you've got a whole other toy. >> Some guy, some 40-year-old dude that lives in his basement with his mom bought that toy when he was like 10 years old. >> Yeah, but he turned it into something great. >> Where did this originate from? >> This is actually my post, all right? And I'll let you know, I was so excited about this too, Bonnie. I'm like Bonnie, that I went out on Ebay and I bought my own broken down original adapt that I'm going to fix up like this. I'm going to see if I can beat this guy. >> How is the basement? >> It's a basement. >> I'm just playing. Now, what about you? What are you craving? >> I am craving the new Beatles version of Rock Band that's coming out on 9-9-09. I'm not really a big Rock Band guy or even Guitar Hero, but this looks pretty cool. I mean, Guitar Hero, there's usually so much like 80s metal and like pop songs that's kind of a turnoff. But the idea of like jamming to all Beatles songs, my friends, sounds pretty cool. >> Yeah, and also, because the Rock Band franchise has really needed to kind of get a kick in the butt, it's just reinvigorated. This is the right way to do it. >> The other thing about this is that it comes with Beatles style instruments that you can play along with too. So even just the kind of collector's value of that [inaudible]. >> Excellent. >> Yeah. >> All right, guys, we're going to start taking your calls. Remember, it's 888-900-CNET. And first on the line is our man, Tyler, from Ohio. What's up, Tyler? >> Hey, guys. I have a problem with my formatting. >> Okay. >> For my videos. >> Okay, and what are you looking to do? >> When I have--I have a [inaudible]. And it records in VOB format. And I want to have it in like a Windows audio file. >> So you're basically looking--yeah, I think if I'm correct, I think you're looking to take the video files off your DVD and then convert them into a Windows Media file. And so there's several programs that you can go out and get. I don't know if you're on a PC or Mac, but a PC specifically, I did some digging. And on our website, there's a program called Prism Video Converter. It has about three stars. It is free. But this will enable you to get those files off of the DVD in the right way. You know, if you just look for a video B converter, the thing about this is that we don't advocate you to rip off DVDs that are, you know, licensed movies maybe. It's kind of gray there. >> CNET doesn't. >> CNET doesn't. >> No, CNET doesn't, no. >> Talk to me in an elevator somewhere, I'll personally advocate that for you. >> Yeah, Donald Bell, that's why you're in the shady corner over there, dude. Next call, we're going to take on Andrew. And Andrew, how are you doing today, man? >> Good. >> All right, what is your question? >> I was wondering if there are any good alternatives, any PC alternatives to GarageBand? >> Yeah, definitely. I'm going to toss this over to our audio man, Mr. Donald Bell. >> Sure. >> How can you help him out? >> Now, you're looking for a free--like, I mean, do you want it to be-- >> Yeah, correct. >> The appealing thing about GarageBand is that it's really inexpensive. For free stuff, I mean, there's always something like Audacity, which isn't as pretty as GarageBand, but you can do multitrack recording with it, and you can get pretty deep if you want to. That's a free one. It's open source. There's lots of pretty inexpensive applications out there that can do as good a job as GarageBand. There's light versions of Ableton Live, Qbase, and even Apple has, I think their light version of Logic, which is really killer, but it's a step up from GarageBand. Those would be my recommendations. >> Cool. All right, thanks, Andrew. >> Bye. >> All right, we'll see you later. Okay, we are going to hit it up with another call. This call is from Mr. Nick coming out of Massachusetts. Nick? >> Hey, guys. >> Hey, hey. I wanted to say thanks for the CNET sticker. And good job with the Apple Bite. I like watching that show every Friday. >> That is one of my favorite shows too, I don't know, coincidentally. >> I don't know why. >> That's pretty good. All right, how can we help you out, Nick? >> Well, you know the Baseline Mac Mini that was updated last Tuesday for $5.99? Would I notice a speed difference between the 2 gigahertz processor and the 2.26 gigahertz processor? >> Well, now, the also, the thing that you mentioned when you called us, what type of things are you looking to do with it? >> Well, I want to do the iWork, you know, the iWork programs, iTunes, web browsing, and then maybe just play around with the FCK and like maybe learn how to develop, you know, the iPhone FCK. >> Yeah, I don't know what you guys think about it personally. I mean, jumping from a 2 gigahertz to 2.6, you're going to see, you're definitely going to see gains when you take a jump like that. Really, all the stuff that you're looking to do right now, I don't think you'd really feel too much of a chug unless you're doing something like, you know, keynote files that are really more graphics-intensive. That's where taking advantage of the processor and obviously max out that RAM, if you want to start doing things like that. Donald, do you have any other suggestions? >> I can only think iMovie would be the most intensive application in the--not with the [inaudible]. But for iWork, there's really nothing, there's no spreadsheets. I can't imagine pushing spreadsheets to the point where you'd be breaking down a Mac Mini. >> Yeah, so, depending on where you stand, you're going to be good either way. So hopefully that helps you out, all right? >> But do you think it's worth it, the XL-150? >> Well, if you want an additional USB port, a better video graphics card, that's where that's going to come into play. If you want to play games, then for $150 and a processor, a think it's a great value in that regard. So thanks for calling, man. All right, Bonnie. >> All right, so coming up, we'll get a closer look at the newest iPod. But first, it's time to talk about the latest smartphones from Palm. Today, we're taking a first look at the Palm Treo Pro for Sprint. No, it's not the Palm Pre that everyone is waiting for, but the Treo Pro isn't half bad and shouldn't be completely dismissed. The Treo Pro is designed for business users. And it's one of the sleekest smartphones to offer both the touch screen and a full corded keyboard without using a slider design. The tradeoff, though, is the screen is kind of small. And the keyboard is extra cramped. I have pretty small hands, and even I had problems using it. It was hard to type fast. And I had a lot of errors when I did. So that was frustrating. Also, for a corporate device, I think the keyboard looks pretty cheap. It's similar to one found on the Palm Centro, which was fine for that device, and so it was aimed at consumers. But these jelly-like buttons doesn't really seem appropriate for a business device. And I wish they kind of stuck with the keyboard they used on older Treos. Moving onto the features, the Treo Pro is a Windows Mobile 6.1 device. You get the standard mobile office suite and push e-mail. But you also get an updated web browser with Internet Explorer 6. They springed some improvements like pan support, a multiple zoom levels, desktop and mobile view, and support for Flash content. These are definitely welcomed additions. And I thought it made navigating and viewing web pages easier. But compared to the competition, like the iPhone's Fire Browser and Opera, IE6 is still pretty cumbersome. But, you know, Mickey moves in the right direction. You get plenty of connectivity options, including Wi-Fi and EVDO Rev. A support. The Treo Pro also has integrated GPS in support for Sprint Navigation. And I was really impressed at how fast it was able to find my position. And it was really accurate. And for entertainment, there's a 2 mega pixel camera. But it doesn't take the best pictures. The smartphone supports Sprint TV and Sprint and Music Store. And thanks to the EVDO REV. A speeds, songs downloaded pretty quickly. And even a streaming video was actually smooth and watchable. Call quality was also pretty good, and general performance was decent, though it can be sluggish at times. Overall, I think the Treo Pro is pretty solid. Windows Mobile smartphone, in terms of features and performance, but the smart keyboard and screen definitely take away from the overall appeal. I think business users for Sprint will get a better user experience from the HTC Touch Pro. But the Treo Pro is $100 less at $199.99 with a contract. So if you're a little budget strapped, you know, the Treo Pro is a decent alternative. I'm Bonnie Cha. This has been your first look at the Palm Treo Pro for Sprint. >> Those were really well-lotioned hands. That's all I'm saying. >> Thanks for noticing. >> I mean, oh, besides that. >> And besides the phone, maybe? >> I mean, it seemed like you liked the phone. >> I did. I think a lot of people bash it, you know, because it's not the Pre, which we'll talk about in a second, but I think it's a pretty solid, you know, Windows Mobile smartphone. You know, my biggest thing was with the design. The keyboard is really small, and I think you're just going to get a better kind of user experience out of the HTC Touch Pro, which is also available with Sprint. >> Excellent. >> Yeah. >> So now, still sticking with the Palm line, you were just at a webcast a couple hours ago talking about the Pre, their hot new baby. >> The hot Pre. >> And, you know, people were kind of curious when it was going to get announced. You have the scoop. What happened? >> A whole lot of nothing. >> A whole lot of nothing? >> Yeah, a whole lot of nothing. >> What was that nothing? >> They pretty much just announced off the bat they're not going to release the pricing and release date during this Palm webcast. >> And everyone was excited, like right off the top. >> They were like, oh, what's the point of this webcast? So basically, they just highlighted the points they did at CES. You know, we talked about the synergy, the e-mail, like bringing it all together from, you know, your Facebook, your Gmail, your Yahoo Mail and all that stuff. And, you know, they talked about the relationship between Palm and Sprint. It was a little self-serving, in my opinion, you know, the we're great. >> We're Sprint, we do it all. Now, this is supposed to be coming out, is it spring or middle of this year? >> So coming out, they said first half of 2009. And they had a Q and A chat session. And they said they're still on track and committed to bringing it out in the first half of 2009. >> Do you think there's any issues with it, like that's why they haven't really said anything about the date? >> No, I don't think so. I think they're just kind of fine tuning everything. I saw it in Spain at GSMA, and it looked almost final to me. It worked really well. There weren't any hiccups when they were downloading it. So I think it's just little fine tuning things still. >> And did you get to touch it and everything? >> Sort of. >> Sort of. >> They would let me touch it, but they had to have a rep hold it at the same time. >> Oh, that's really lame. >> So I was like really? I'm not going to run off with it. >> So since you've been pretty close to it, closer than many people, because you're Bonnie Cha, how does it really stack up with the iPhone from what you were able to kind of touch? >> You know, I think this is really the first legitimate iPhone competitor. I know we kind of toss that term around a lot, but this is, you know, with the multi-touch screen and the way the multitasking works, it kind of sets a little competitive edge over it, I think, even with the synergy, like bringing all your information together. I think it's pretty hot. >> It's pretty hot. >> Yeah. >> All right, we're going to get another call in here. We're going to stick with the mobile line tip. Gary out of New York, what's up? >> Hi, guys. I'm looking to buy a new phone. And I was wondering if I should stick with T-Mobile and pay the full price without getting a new contract for the BlackBerry Curve 8900, or should I switch to AT&T and buy the BlackBerry Bold? >> Well, let me ask you this, Gary. How important is 3G to you? >> Not that important. But I'm going to be doing stuff like instant messaging and basically texting and calling. >> So I would say go with the Curve 8900. It has everything the Bold has except 3G. And so, you know, it's a slimmer device, and it works just as well. And actually, I found that, you know, even over edge speed, the web browsing was really good, and, you know, it will be fine for instant messaging and everything. So I'd go with the Curve 8900. >> All right. >> All right, thanks. >> Excellent. All right, guys, it's time to take a little break. And we'll be back with a look at the new tiny iPod Shuffle. Plus, that pudding pie. We're going to do something with that. So stick with us. ^M00:14:15 >> Watch every game from the NCAA Championship live online for free with NCAA March Madness on Demand. But please, use with caution. ^M00:14:30 [ Music ] ^M00:14:44 >> When the biggest stars meet the biggest laughs, they come to Dave. The Late Show with David Letterman. >> Why aren't we laughing? >> I'm not sure. >> Weeknights on CBS. ^M00:15:02 >> All right, guys, welcome back. You see the pudding pie. Do you see, I wrote CNET with-- >> I know. I hope you like pudding. >> I hope you like pudding in the face. Okay, welcome back. We've got time for a couple more calls. But first, it's time for Best of the Web. All right, this is the Best of the Web from our buddies at webware.com. Now, today, Google announced a new service that will be rolling out in the future. It's called Google Voice. >> Right. >> And what Google Voice is basically Google acquired a company called Grand Central. And what Grand Central does is it gives you one single number that you can use for all the phones you own. So we're talking about home, work, mobile phones. >> So you [inaudible]? >> Yeah, to one. Now, what Google Voice is taking is your voicemails that you receive and transcribing them, making them available for you to read online, search online and SMSing them to you. So it's just Google find voicemails and making them totally indexible and able to search. I think this is some really cool, crazy stuff. >> Yeah, that's pretty cool. >> Yeah, it could take your phone to the next level. >> And when is it coming out? >> They haven't said yet, but actually, Grand Central users are going to get first dibs at this. I guess they're rolling out to them. Because this whole Grand Central service is really popular, they shut it down so new people like you and me can't try and get in there. But I think this is just another way that Google is taking over the world. >> They are. >> I don't know about you. Okay, we're taking calls. We're going to go to Michelle in San Carlos, California. Our first lady, other than Bonnie, on the show. Michelle, what's up? >> Hi, thanks for taking my call. >> Of course, we had to. >> I have a question about netbooks and their wireless reception range. I'm a violin teacher in Mountain View. So I have access to the free Google Wireless Network, except for the fact that my studio is across the street and at the end of a parking lot from the nearest router. So most of the little computers I've had down there can see the network, but not maintain a stable connection. I found an MSI Wind that will maintain a relatively slaky [phonetic] connection, but good enough to get e-mail and the occasional webpage. But with the 6 cell battery, it's kind of bulky and heavy. I've had my eye on the VIOT or something smaller and lighter. And I'm just wondering if you guys, in your lab testing, have any experience with what of the smaller netbooks have the best range and reception on their wireless cards. >> Yeah, you know, I got a tip from Dan Ackerman. Thanks for helping me out, Dan, with this. And basically, you know, a lot of the netbooks are going to get around the same range. But the key is if you can get a netbook with an 802.11n card in it, that will enable it to, you know, get wireless access from further away because of the frequency it uses. It can actually, you know, detect and pull signals better. He gave a suggestion of a laptop to check out the new ASUS epc 1000he. That was one that does have n in it. And he said it's not--this other laptop is not really quite a netbook, but Ultra Portable Toshiba R600 is also going to have a WiMax option. For you, I don't know if WiMax is in the Mountain View area. I would assume probably. Actually, I don't want to say. I'm not sure. I'm really not sure. But getting an 802.11n netbook is probably going to be your best bet if you're looking in that direction, all right? >> Thanks. >> Okay, awesome. All right, next call, we're going to go to Jack in Tennessee. Jack, are you there? >> Jack? >> Oh, maybe I should click the button better? There we go. Jack, sorry about that. >> Hi. That's okay. >> Okay, what's up? >> Are you there? >> I'm doing good. >> I was wondering if I could use--like get a Zoon pass thing and use it to put on iTunes? >> In music questions, we like to turn to our music guru. Donald has his hands up in the air. What's up? >> Come to me, Jack. Yeah, so you're trying to use both services? Like you're trying to use a Zoon pass, but get the content so that converts over into iTunes? Is that what you're trying to do? >> Well, I just want it on an iPod. >> Okay, so you want Zoon pass content on an iPod? >> Correct. >> Okay, there is no legal way to do that, unfortunately. If you had a bunch of content, like a bunch of playlists in your Zoon software and you wanted to get that into iTunes, there's applications you can use to convert playlists into something that iTunes can use. Zoon uses its own specialty playlist called ZPL. And you can get a converter that will convert that into Windows Media Player playlist WPL, and you can convert that into iTunes. It's a big step. I mean, there's a lot of steps involved, but it sounds like if you just want to get protected Diuma [phonetic] content to play in iTunes, there's no way to do it. Even the illegal ways to do it aren't worth the effort. So the answer is no, Jack, sorry. >> Okay, thanks. >> Yeah. >> I like that. Nicely put. >> That was a lot of information. The bottom line is no. >> That's good. All right, guys, yesterday, Apple announced the release of an even smaller version of their smallest iPod, the iPod Shuffle. And DBU got it this morning, right? You started playing with it? >> I got both flavors of it. I got the black version and I got the silver version. >> I have a silver one. >> Yeah, they're both pretty cool. They're 4 gigabytes for about $79, which is, you know, the price that you're accustomed to seeing the Shuffle at. But the big deal here is there's no screen, there's no buttons on the player itself. The buttons are actually on the headphone cable. I'm not sure if I like that. But still making up my mind about this. I hope to have a review done by the end of the day. >> Okay, but before that, you got a first look, right? >> I do have a first look. >> All right, so we will check out the video. Let's go to it. [ Music ] >> Hey, I'm Donald Bell, Senior Editor for Digital Audio and MP3. And today we're taking a first look at the third generation Apple iPod Shuffle. Just when you thought the Shuffle couldn't get any smaller, Apple cut the size in half by taking the buttons off the front of the old design and moving them to the headphone cable. This thing is really, really small, maybe too small for some users. And it sells for $79 with 4 gigabytes of storage. The most surprising move here is that Apple moved the playback controls to the headphone cable. So instead of having pause, skip and volume controls on the front of the player, you get this little remote control on the right earbud. The remote includes plus and minus controls for volume and a clicker in the middle. Pressing once on the clicker will pause your music. Two clicks will skip to the next song. And three clicks will skip backwards. The whole system isn't quite as intuitive as the obvious play, pause and skip controls on the previous Shuffle. You can just hand this to somebody and expect they would figure it out. But there is one really big advantage to this version of the Shuffle. It's the first Shuffle that actually tells you what song you're playing. In fact, I mean, literally, it tells you what song you're playing. When you press and hold the headphone clicker for a second, a little synthetic voice comes in and tells you what song you're hearing. >> Painted Eyelids Beck. >> Press and hold the button a little longer, and you'll hear a list of the playlist on your Shuffle, which you can select by pressing the button again. >> All songs, 90s music, recently added. >> The voice works in 14 different languages. And you won't hear it unless you call it up with the button. But if it drives you crazy, you can disable it in iTunes. Overall, you have to hand it to Apple for pushing the envelope on their $80 MP3 player. But the quirky navigation isn't going to appeal to everyone. And I have to say, it's probably one of the most boring iPods I've seen. It's also worth mentioning that if you lose the Shuffle's headphones, you'll have to shop around for a replacement pair that includes Apple's clicker remote. Still, if you like the idea of your MP3 player being as invisible as possible, the third generation Shuffle is as small and as light as they come. I'm Donald Bell, and that was a first look at the third generation Apple iPod Shuffle. [ Music ] >> Okay, that headphone control thing, I'm just not feeling it. >> Yeah, I'm not sold on it. >> They're already coming out, like Griffin and [inaudible] come out with a bunch of accessories to kind of work around it. >> But why should I buy an additional headphone just because it has a control? That's all I'm saying, man. >> It does take the cost back up. Yeah, exactly. >> Okay, all right, we're going to take one more quick call. We'll see if we can help this person out. Todd from Florida, what's going on? Hello, Tyler, I'm sure you can hear me. Hello. >> I'm wondering about any good photo editing apps for the iPhone? >> Yeah, personally, I haven't been able to dig into them. But I pulled up an article that was just on the front of cnet.com, a few, maybe like last week. And if you search for iPhone photo apps, we have like five really favorite apps that allow you to kind of adjust add filters. This one is called artist's touch. Quad Camera kind of allows you to, you know, do some fun things with the photos. And here's some also like correction with exposure, like a ready in-flash feature that kind of corrects the pictures for you. So I would just check that out and also continue to check out our Webware, because they'll go through and kind of pick out favorite iPhone apps. So hopefully that will help you out, all right? >> All right, thanks. >> Okay, guys, you know, we like to try something new here at CNET Live. >> Yeah. >> So we've got a contest here. We're going to call it a specific name. It's called [inaudible]. >> That's awesome. Okay, so what we have here is Donald Bell will be the man in charge. He has a few questions that he's going to ask us. It's a best out of three between me and Bonnie. He's going to ask a question. When we know the answer, we're going to say, nerd alert. And basically, whoever gets the most questions right, the loser--oh, that's evil. But the loser, the last person on the phone that we take, you're going to decide the fate of the loser. They will either put on this fox mask and do the Star Spangled Banner with the kazoo, or they will fish for a Sony memory stick in a beautiful pudding pie whipped up by me. So Donald, are you ready? >> I'm ready. Are you ready? >> I'm trying to get over the fact that you had that fox mask just hanging out by your desk. >> Hey, you know how I roll. All right, so first question, the nerd question. >> Okay. >> And it's something near and dear to my heart. The first commercially available iPod came out in 2001, cost $399 and was initially offered in what capacity? >> Four gigabytes. Nerd alert. I got it right, right? >> You didn't say nerd alert first. >> You have to say nerd alert first. >> I said nerd alert after I said the answer. >> Either way, you fail. And I have this multiple choice here. So listen carefully here. Two gigabytes, five gigabytes, two gigabytes. >> Nerd alert. >> You'll notice four gigabytes is [inaudible]. >> Oh, no. >> All right, so Bonnie said nerd alert, right? >> Is it two gigabytes? >> No. >> Shoot. >> Nerd alert. Five. >> Way to go. All right. >> You had me. If I said four, that means I was close to it. >> I know, but-- >> You should listen to someone who knows the answer. >> Here is another question. >> Okay, next question. >> The next question is coming up. The TRS-80 personal computer was manufactured by what company in the 70s and 80s? Is it Commodore, Atari or Tandy? >> Do you really want me to try and beat you right now or do you want me to give you a chance to answer first? >> You've got one out of three. >> Okay, I'm a nerd alert. I'm going to say Commodore. >> No. >> Okay. >> Nerd alert. >> Wait, can I have the answer or the multiple choice? >> Commodore, Atari or Tandy. >> She's horrible. >> Shut up. Tandy. >> Correct. >> Oh my gosh. >> A tie. You're going down. >> All right, you callers, I'll tell you, we're taking the call. You'll decide what happens to the loser. >> Now, Brian lost the Apple question. Now it's kind of the softball to Brian on the iPod. So I'm going to come in here. To be fair, I'm going to give a mobile phone question here. In 1983, the first cellular phone approved by the FCC was made by what company, Motorola, Nokia or SANYO? >> You don't know it? >> No. >> Hey, Brian didn't know the Apple question. Anyone got a nerd alert here? >> So it's Motorola, SANYO and who? Who is the third option? >> I said Motorola, Nokia or SANYO. >> Nerd alert. >> Nerd alert. Nerd alert. >> Who was that? I think that was Brian. >> I'm really going to dig hard. I'm going to say Motorola. >> You're right. Oh, Bonnie, come on. >> Okay, okay, we're going to take this caller. Kenneth from Georgia, you can decide whatever happens here, you know, what goes down. Kenneth, what do you want? >> I'm thinking about getting myself an unblocked iPod no one. >> Are you watching the show, buddy? Kenneth? >> My question is can I buy applications on it? >> Okay, quick question. Yes, you can buy stuff from the iTunes store with your unlocked phone, yes, yes and yes, okay? >> Hi. Go fish. >> Okay, what do you want to do? What happens here, the Firefox mask or the pie in the face surfing for a memory stick? >> Oh, I have to have pity on her. >> Be nice to Bonnie, yeah. >> I knew that was going to happen. I'll just have pudding. >> Oh, Bonnie will do the pudding. I want to see this. >> It will make for good TV. >> Okay, so here we go. There's a memory stick in here, okay? There's a memory stick in here. Okay, are you ready? Just clear out. Yeah, pull your hair back. This is awesome. This is great. Because I thought I would have to do it. >> I know [inaudible]. >> Yeah, I'm so sorry, Bonnie. >> It's okay. >> Okay. >> Can you like give me a like general vicinity? >> It's somewhere around here. It's generally around here. Get in there. Get in there. Oh! Get in there! >> That's not pretty. >> Yeah! Yeah! >> Did you retrieve it? >> Yes, yes. >> Oh, man! >> I can't see. >> She can't see. >> We've reached a new low. >> That was beautiful. This is what happens when-- >> This pudding tastes excellent. >> I hope you're happy. >> Okay, guys. >> Bye. >> Thank you for coming to CNET Live. We're coming back Thursday at 4:00 p.m. Eastern, 4:00 p.m. Pacific, pudding time of 10:00 a.m. in Hawaiian. We'll see you. ^M00:29:05 [ Laughter ] >> Oh. >> It's so good. [ Laughter ]