Clayton Snyder drops in to talk 'Second Star' and life after 'Lizzie McGuire' (Tomorrow Daily 348)

On today's show, we deep dive into the Green Goblin's favorite new invention, the Flyboard Air. We talk about the Volocopter and its 18 rotor electric goodness. And we also talk about Starshot Project and whether or not we can reach Alpha Centauri with tiny little space ships in 20 years. Also, actor Clayton Snyder stops by to talk about his new pilot Second star. We also do a back it or hack it. Would you or would you not buy a portable DNA lab? We're gonna answer that question. Tomorrow Daily. [MUSIC] Greetings citizens of the Internet. Welcome to Tomorrow Daily, the best e-talk show in the known universe. The known universe. Or we're gonna know more maybe after today's episode. Another thing, we don't really know what's out there. If Stephen Hawking is successful, we might find out we are not, in fact, the best geek talk show in the known universe. It could be in Alpha Centauri. That'd be so disappointing. [INAUDIBLE] There's this amazing geek talk show over in Alpha Centauri. [LAUGH] It's so good, my God, you guys are missing out. I'm Ashley Esqueda, by the way. And I'm Jeff Cannata. Let's dip, shall we? Let's not even dip, let's dive. Deep dive right into the headlines. Deep diving into the deep end headlines. [MUSIC] There's been a lot of speculation about Flyboard. We need to discuss Flyboard. Right up front, we gotta talk about Flyboard Air, because some people are saying this is fake. Do you think it's fake? Well, here's the thing. It's always just some rando flying it around. This is obviously super phony, as phony as that deer getting chased by a bear video. That's pretty hilarious by the way. Hilarious, but also super fake. Yeah. But this guy, Frankie Zapatta, this is the guy who invented the water Jet pack. Jet pack saying that like- Which I wanna do still, still wanna do having done yet. You can go to like a resort in the Carribean. You can try it out. But yeah, he has this, you can see he's got a little controller on his hand. He's very dramatic. Yeah. But ya this controller apparently controls the turbine Yeah But the That is rad. So some people on Reddit, I'm a long time lurker on Reddit. Some people on Reddit where saying I don't Believe it because he is so steady on it. But if he is the inventor of it he obviously probably has the most flight time out of anybody you know and it's just like getting on one of the wheelie boards. Right. Where electric wheelie board, cuz I won't call it a hoverboard, cuz this is a hoverboard, where the more you do it, the better you get at it. Right. Here's why I do think it's real. Okay. It's over water. To do it fake he's probably gonna have to be hanging from a crane of some kind. Which is hard to do over water and I'll buy that. There's really no reason to have them be over water unless it's real, if it's real I wanna be over water cuz if I fall I wanna land on water. Yeah. I'm buying it right now and you know, fool me once of course and many times but, still I wanted to be real and I want to try it [CROSSTALK] A lot of people have said, this is the part they're kind of they're They want to talk about which is that, they take off and landing is not really shown all [CROSSTALK] about well. Like all very clearly in one shot. They kind of cut. But I mean listen. So yeah watch. So here he comes and all of the sudden. Up Like, it's a second like they cut between those shots so it sorta feels like well maybe there's something there that's a little fishy. But you're right, he's an inventor of a thing that's an actual thing so why, what motivation would he have to do a fake thing? Right, it's not like Lexus faking a style with them Hoverboard [INAUDIBLE]. Well, but I understand the spirit behind that. I get it, yeah. I just don't understand what the motivation would be here, other than got you. Right, but who knows? I mean, it looks, it is a Green Goblin flight platform. Yeah. I mean, It's not even really a hover board it's like a flying board. Yeah, this is not even a hover board your right. This is. Truly a fly board the name imply the fly board air is pretty good. So we got to get ahold of these guys and make sure that we can try it cause I want to try it. Yeah fly board. [CROSSTALK] Frankie, we know you're a big fan of the show, call us up just like you're on. Okay. So, going from one form of area of transportation to another, let's discuss the volocopter which is very real. Yes. And has been real for years and years and years this has been a development for I believe six years and so, this is in Germany and it took them forever to get all the proper permit. To be able to do this. Yeah. They finally did a manned flight so yeah. It's a human sized drone. It's a big giant drone with a cockpit for a person which is the best. I think this is awesome and it allows them to fly in a much more agile way Than you could with a regular helicopter. Indeed. And that is pretty exciting. The idea of being able to have this be, who knows, it could be a search and rescue vehicle. This is an Uber. Well, that could be an Uber. I would love an Uber. Be like, just Uber, Uber copter. Uber volo, like Uber volo, get it, get my Uber. You know they actually do have Uber helicopters? I know, they had it at CES. They had an Uber chopper you can take a little tour. But I like this as like as personal transport like I gotta get from the west side to the valley to Burbank in 20 minutes. Please. Call me a chopper. But okay, so let's discuss what this Volocopter is all about because I thought there is some really interesting advancements in technology here that we didn't get to talk about because one you weren't here but also and I was all alone. So it would be really weird if I was talking about it to myself. They designed this with electric motors so it's much quieter than a standard motor. They said it's ecologically sound. They're really big on making sure this is environmentally friendly. They said the Volocopter is acoustically much more pleasant due to it's design and it's much quieter than conventional helicopters. They also talk a lot about battery technology development as they gone through this and they also said it's very simple to fly so, aparently>>Helicopters are Notoriously not. A helicopter is trying to flip you over all the time and your job as a pilot is to not let it.>> Is to not let it but because it has eighteen rotors It's a lot more stable and top of that it automatically adjust for turbulence which is really handy. And then it's controlled by single joystick, that's it. It's a simple single joystick that you control your flight per stalling [UNKNOWN] glide angle Those things that are sort of really difficult to master in a helicopter, they wanna make that much easier which I thought was great. The thing go very fast? Not terribly yet but, they I think now that they have had a man flight go, I think that they're probably gonna ramp that up pretty well and I would imagine the flight time is not A long time. Yeah. Not very long. And obviously looks like very small amount of cargo. Two passengers tops. So->> Maybe a back pack. Yeah. So it's not gonna replace any kind of vehicles we have now at the moment. But it does have a whole lot of promise for the future as far as these kinds of multi rotor Electric vehicle. It's pretty cool. And as we get further and further into self driving and autonomous vehicles, that also will apply to aerial vehicles as well. Like some people will still fly single engine Cessna's for fun, but if you want to get from point A to point B, I'm sure being able to just hire an autonomous robot to take you from LA to Palm Springs for the weekend would be a lot cheaper than hiring a pilot to do it. Crazy. Pretty cool. I wanna see him just cut to the guy like with his cellphone controlling it, like- I know, just like. You'd think that the [UNKNOWN] but if the guy in the side with the phone. Cellphone, yeah. Okay, so our last headline story we've talked about. It's Starshot Project which we talked about yesterday. This is pretty exciting stuff, I think. This is, this to me is so much science fiction becoming reality. It blows my mind. Yeah. The idea that we could explore that far out and go that close to the speed of light, it's 20%. 20% but that's still 100 million miles an hour. Ridiculously fast. Really fast. Really, really really fast. And the key here is that it's because these are very Small spacecraft. Yeah. This are nano there calling them Nanocraft and there teeny tiny rockets and they believe that by using light field technology which we talk about before on the show. Right. By using light field technology they can increase the -. Speed at which these nanocrafts travel up to 20% of the speed of light. So the idea here is that you have a solar sail which actually catches- Nice sail. Photons and uses that to propel it. And the only reason it can do that is because the thing is propelling it so ridiculously light. Small and light. That it actually can use light Waves to propel it through space. And it's an accumulative process. It's not that it continually needs the same, it's like some photons give it some thrust there and that continues because it's in space. So as they get more and more and more, it goes faster, faster faster faster. My question is like wha are they gonna do when they gonna do once they get into Alpha Centauri, like what are they? [INAUDIBLE]. It's like they're gonna be moving so fast at some point. Well I guess I would imagine that part of that has to do with the ground base like beamer that they're saying. Help get it start the journey. Yeah. But the thing is this is pretty incredible stuff. Really heady ideas from Steven Hawking and co. I love that Yuri Milner has invested. A Whole butler of money into this.>>I don't understand I something brought up yesterday is how we gonna get any information back from this thing because information is not gonna travel at the speed that the devices travelling so in order to How any kinda even information that it got to where we sent it, it's gonna take a ridiculously long time to find out, right? So, I think it would not take a ridiculously long amount of time. Like, obviously, when you think about Mars, which is far, but not nearly as far as the nearest Star system, our neighboring star system. It take what, how long is it? Is it 21 minutes or something like that. And so, so for me it's I think it'll take a while to get that information back but if your sending back something like an image in light to be a light. It might not be that bad or if it was laser. Like, I don't know, I think this is actually part of the process, which projects, which Starshot projects is they wanna work out exactly how they could get this data back. They also have said One of the big things they felt confident about was that all of the technology to accomplish this already exists or it's very close to being created. That's pretty amazing. Or it's in development basically right now. So that to me is super impressive. I think these little nano bots are just gonna have a little teeny tiny rolled up piece of paper in them that has Stephen Hawking's phone number. And it's just for- Just for [INAUDIBLE] call me. Whoever finds it, just give us a call. And then, all of the sudden, Tomorrow, what would it be? It wouldn't even be Tomorrow Daily, it would be some other show name. Some aliens hosting a parallel star system version of our show. And they're like, who's this guy, Stephen Hawking? What's up with that? The true best Geek talk show in the universe. In the entire universe, that's exactly what it is. Maybe we should have some sort of best geek talk show off with them. And we find out who truly is. I like it. Yeah. I'm willing to fight for the right to that title. We're not just gonna go down without a fight. Why do you think- Genghis is actually a weapon. I don't think anybody knows, but he's ready, and yeah, Jeff will wield a lightsaber. It'll be fine. Bring it on, unknown galaxy. Last thing I want to say about the Star Shop project is they say because of the economies of scale and computer components and the price and everything They said eventually they'll be able to send these rockets out into space for just a few $100,000. Chump change. Yeah. I got that in my couch. No problem. We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be back with Clayton Snyder who's gonna talk to us-- You're not gonna wanna miss this. It's a fun interview. He's a delight. Really great guy. Super delightful. And you might also see Logan in a In a dancing ninjas video. [LAUGH] You do not want to miss that. Maybe. Just saying. So stick around. It's Tomorrow Daily. [MUSIC] Our guests, this week, you might know from Lizzie McGuire. He played the beautifully coiffed Ethan. Yes. And now he is starring in a beautiful little pilot that you should see online called Second Star. We're very excited to welcome Clayton Schneider here. Thank you, Clayton from coming. Thank you guys for having me. Hello right back at you, hi. So polite, you are. Thank you. First of all, I kind of just want to put it out there that you have known producer Logan for a while. I have known producer Logan for some time, since- He's quite a guy. He is a guy, and- hi, Logan. We can't hear him on the show, can we? No, we can't. He can't pitch in? No, we don't like to give him microphones. We take, we give it away. That makes sense, I wouldn't do it. [LAUGH] But yeah, we've been doing, in fact, video stuff since back in high school. We had a few Cult classics. Were you in the dancing ninjas video? I was in the dancing ninjas video. [LAUGH] I knew it. Logan, can you pull footage of dancing ninjas? Cut to the dancing ninjas video. In fact if we don't show it now, people will be very upset. Yeah. I think we'll put it in post. Okay. All right, so. But you're doing, you're doing more video stuff now. You've been on television and you are- All the video stuff. You're back with a, kind of an interesting new way to get on television, right. Yeah, at least the latest thing that's been going on. So The Lizzie McGuire [UNKNOWN] what does that mean. Well you're soft, you're nice haircut. Okay I feel like quaffed is one of those words you know what it means but you can't really define it. Anyway I didn't mean like I was insulted. It's a compliment. You know it's a compliment right? [INAUDIBLE]. What a [UNKNOWN]. What a head of hair. Next to [UNKNOWN] there that. You just clicked on Wikipedia and that's what came up. Pretty much. [LAUGHTER] So tell us about second star. Yeah so second star. Disney, large company, different branches, including Disney HD and Maker Studios started this initiative where Maker Studios would reach out to creatives who are producing content that they thought might be good people to ask if they wanted to pitch ideas for a show. And if they'd like it, we'd give you a little bit of money. Give us a proof of concept. And see where we go from there pretty much. So another way to sort of reach out to people that maybe didn't have an avenue to make stuff already And allow sorta influx of new blood, new ideas, right? Exactly. So, you guys or was it you or you just- No, my good friend Richard Allen, who's now executive producer, so Disney XD, through this, owns The project, technically. Right, if you pitch, then it's like, we own this if we decide to take it seriously. Exactly, but the contract is actually signed under Disney as a whole. So it could still be brought to different branches within the Walt Disney Company. Got you. So what is the idea that he had that got them to say, hey, let's make a proof of concept? Well, there's that tone that you can have with a Disney show. It's very light, bubbly, kinda fun, good for the whole family. But what was cool about Second Star, one, that it is musically The oriented show people love that. And also that it can deal with slightly darker issues that aren't really talked about or put up on tv very much. Like you're dealing with three orphans essentially and an older brother that's trying to you know support his family. Keep it together. And keep it together. Yeah under the shadow of their Grandfather who was this fantastic music producer and you know his father like had dreams, excuse my character Lucas father had dreams to kind of step in the music scene himself and there was a tragic accident and all of a sudden we're just kinda left where we are. So in the shadow of a legacy but also not being attached from it and detached from it and trying to figure out. Where we fit in all this. Can I still pursue my dreams as a musician while still trying to support my younger brother and sister? So it's like oo it's a Disney show. But it can be fun with the, like you said with the inclusive of music you have this opportunity to really make something. Not light hearted but something really enjoyable something people feel good about after their done watching it like they don't feel like I just watched the walking dead. Like I'm such a downer. But not necessarily like my dad is dead, But lets play music. It's, So ignoring these facts anyway but- Right. But issues come that are still at avenue of expression and how you can still overcome your circumstances by following a certain passion. Things that give you life. Sure. Sounds cool, because this idea isn't something necessarily would have been pitched within Disney You guys had the opportunity to bring it from a outside and have this Quite outside the box. Yeah. It sort of a almost like a kick starter of being able to give a shot. That's a good analogy. Yeah. Yeah. So we kinda talk about how this is sort of a. Really nontraditional way of kind of moving this towards televisions. Yeah. And how you kind of started with you know what's really required in everything that you were doing when you were younger. This is kind of a real Really interesting sort of change of pace for you. Like, did you wanna talk a a little bit about the differences between what it was like to be on a show like Lizzie McGuire which is obviously very big, very well funded production, and in doing something much more indie. Obviously, there are the money difference is the big difference. But for you as an actor what's the thing that you really love about working with an indie as opposed to a big production company or vie versa? Well yeah, it's almost like what I'm doing now is what I should have had to been doing then almost. But when I was just starting out I was one of the lucky ones. I was only Acting professionally, like, going out on auditions for like a year and a half before Lizzie McGuire came around. And it was just, boom, that was the kind of the first thing that I really booked. That's how it happens for everybody. I know, yeah. I've been told, if you just, you get a bus ticket to LA. Just make your budget, like give yourself like, okay, got about what Like 12 months, around 18 months, around that range. And- Give yourself a limit. Exactly. And it'll happen right before the end of that, for sure. Super easy, happy stories. Yeah. [LAUGH] Still, that's awesome. Yeah, so it was a really cool opportunity, it seemed kind of surreal. They weren't even sure they were gonna use my character. And at that time, it's just Like there's the Disney show that they're making called Lizzie McGuire and it had nothing behind the name whatsoever. And for it to have become what it became was pretty amazing. Yeah. And especially for the kind of show that it was because looking back on it It was so successful I think cuz it dealt with a lot of very real issue that kids in middle school were dealing with, but never really had an outlet to talk about. Right. But to answer your question, what it's like going from this perspective. So, I took a good time away from acting to live life to be with my friends that I grew up with. That's why you're normal. Go to school. You don't know me. [LAUGH] And to play water polo and live that life for a little bit. But I knew I wanted to come back. Sure. That should be the answer to every question we've ever asked on this show, everybody should just always go You don't know me. Yes, good job you're so good in this show, you don't know. You don't know me sorry go ahead. But to answer your question getting on Lizzy McGuire I was only acting professionally for like a year and a half. Like going on auditions, meaning and Then got the part. But back then, it's just like there was this new show that's gonna be made for Disney and it didn't have anything behind that. It's been this pretty big thing. Exploded. Yeah, because it talks about a lot of real issues that kids in middle school dealt with which is pretty cool. Then I took some time off to Be with friends and go to school and do water polo things. And I've been back in it for the past two, three years. And just kind of, it's good to have that on your resume, that you had the experience, and you might have some following with that. And then just building that network is essentially. Because With acting you are this product that you're selling and I cant exactly say, hey look at what I did because that's a very different product collating at 15 than it at 26, 7, 8. So they're like, okay but who are you now? So have you been doing a lot of student film, a lot of indie films, a lot of sketches, a lot of shorts, a lot of live impro, a live musical stuff In so many features now. And now this is kind of one of the latest things that's come up with Second Star. That's cool. So you have experience building something into- Which is super cool and super fun. Yeah. Yeah. So, just as an actor what's the dream gig, what's the thing you wanna do most? Man! It can either be a cast in the biggest movie you'll ever be in or the biggest TV show,what would it be, what would that be? If you could make like an Indiana Jones-Jurassic Park-Star Wars, hybrid Somewhere in there. Into that. Right, yeah. So, Chris Pratt, you wanna work together? Sounds good. [LAUGH] Yeah. Deal? Great. He does in fact watch this show. Okay, fantastic. Religiously I'm sure. Okay cool. Cuz that's [LAUGH] His role in Parks and Rec which was fantastic. Pretty good. That was like the Ethan Craft of that show. Sure. And then for him to go off and all of a sudden be like voiceover for like a movie. And then Star Lord. Star lord, like come on. Pretty good. So all this is fun and nice and everything but I want to hear about is that water polo stuff. You wanna hear about it? So you're a professional water polo player. Yeah former and yeah still get in the water. Yeah but this is a thing we don't so much have here in the States but you had to actually go overseas to be a professional right? Yeah so I was I've been playing since I was 8 years old and gone from various clubs and [INAUDIBLE] highschool team and played for Pepperdine in college Ayo wades And was about to, I did film studies [UNKNOWN] and then was about to get into acting/directing after that. Didn't have an actual game plan at all was like yeah I'll just jump in. Isn't that we all do. Cause that's what I did before. I can do it again do it about a year and a half great. [INAUDIBLE] Sure. And then Terry Schroeder, various time Olympian, former Olympic head coach, he has like three silver medals, and that time, current National Team head coach. He was like, hey, Clayton, like the way you play. If you keep improving, you gotta shot at making the national teams. Very soft-spoken gentleman. Hi, Gary. We'll send your track rights to him. And I was like okay, I need to go for that opportunity, so I was from there you can't really stay in the states. You can surely train with the national team, but If you really want to improve, you gotta play up. As you can imagine, with sports teams, that's how you get better. You play against people who are better than you. And hopefully in a competitive setting, like games. So we don't have that for that. When you're outside of college, you're just playing against college guys. In Europe, is there Is there a, is it televised? Yes. Are there live audience? Yes. I mean, it's a big thing. It's a thing. They've got some amazing stadiums over there. We have some, like, over here too but it's not as regular as it is over there. Because you could think about it this way They're just different avenues. Like, in Eastern Europe, it's kind of where it's strongest. So your Serbia, your [UNKNOWN], Croatia, Italy. Did you play in those places? I played in Italy, Hungary, and [UNKNOWN] Cool. That experience. Yeah, it was an amazing experience. They're very good, it's very difficult. It's rough, right, underneath the water, people are Punching and scrapping. Yeah what the rest doesn't see kind of goes. It's a legit sport. So water polo. Who trained you for hollywood? Yes. Tough and I can make it in this town. He got this blow, blow sea level beating that's like basically what hollywood is. That's literally all hollywood is, so okay. With Second Star, you guys are, it's 15 minutes, you're incorporating music into this pilot. You can see it on secondstar.tv, right? If anyone wants to go watch it. So incorporating music, you also sing. Apparently. Yeah, and people like it. Thanks. I've been reading the comments, and people are enjoying it. It's a positive thing. They say nice things. What is it like- potentially, let's say Disney picks it up to go to series. You are gonna Your gonna be singing a lot I would image. Well what I was saving for this interview is actual my [UNKNOWN] album coming out, actually I'm totally kidding. That is not a thing. [UNKNOWN] drop that man. Now we're gonna hold you to, we're going to expect an album. No music always been actually a very big part of my life. I was in choir when I was a kid and had voice lessons. I really pursued professionally. I was kinda thrown in a lot of stuff in arts and athletics growing up and play guitar here and there, played alto saxophone briefly, the base guitar, and it's all just been a hobby. It's fun and I was able to just keep music incorporated through [UNKNOWN] somehow and so it's cool to have an avenue to kind do that. You know. That's sweet. So he's saying, guys he sings, he acts, he plays water polo. I feel like I'm like selling you to them I don't know what I'm doing. So this fifteen minute proof of concept. Is out now. Yeah. What does it need to be more? What do you need to have happen for it to be? Tell everybody what they should do to make it bigger. So this is a proof of concept and you may have heard of the term pilot. So you know, it's like the first episode kind of like, is this gonna be a thing. See if people like it. So proof of concept is a Smaller version of that at a smaller budget. So that's essentially what this video is, a proof of concept. So it's not even a pilot, it's being broadcasted out there to see hey people, do you like it? And so there are various methods to track The hits of people watching the show. Or going into the website and checking it in, or going to the Facebook page, and there are eyes on that. And there is no quota of, okay, soon as it gets X amount of views, or X amount of likes, or X amount of shares, We're gonna take it to network. It's just time will tell, and if it gets more views- Check it out. So essentially, the more views- The right interest from the right amount of people, then you're good. Right. And also, the demographic will also decide what network it gets picked up on, whether- Disney has a pretty vast Exactly where it's actual Disney or abc or Disney xd network. So depends on what age range or which gender is more [UNKNOWN] to it for whatever reason. So I'm gonna do two things to wrap this up, I'm gonna go watch that show. Watch that show. And I'm also going to check out and see if I can find any streams of european water polo. There's a lot. Because now I wanna become. [UNKNOWN] I wanna be a, become a fan. I wanna become a fan. [LAUGH] Shout out to our sponsors I was wondering about. [LAUGH] Boy, wow, amazing. Thank you so much for coming on the show, really appreciate it. Secondstar.tv, that's where you can find it. Go do that thing, go watch that thing, you must do it. Must watch that thing. It's [UNKNOWN], it's [UNKNOWN] that you watch it. Thank you so much again for being with us. Thank you. Come back, come back when your album drops. Come back when your big album drops. Alright we'll be right back guys but stick around [UNKNOWN]. [MUSIC] Welcome back everybody. He is so fun. Delightful. Just in case you're wondering, we don't just like switch clothes for the interview. We pre-taped it, but I switch clothes every time. Yes. Jeff's got like five costume changes during every show. I'm a prima donna. Yeah, he was great, so thank you again to Clayton for coming out and chilling with us. Cuz he was super fun, he's so nice. Also, dancing ninjas video, A plus. [LAUGH] Are you ready to talk about Into It? Let's do it. [MUSIC] So I saw Civil War this week. I know! I'm so jealous. But I'm not gonna talk about that, I'm gonna talk about something else. I don't want to give it all away. My review's up on Cnet.com by the way, if anyone wants to read it. I'm super into Ratchet and Clank. It's so great. Me too, I'm into that. The remake of the PS4 is it's on PS4 now. It is so pretty. One, like, the graphics are unbelievable. Do you remember when the PS2 was coming out and they were like, you're gonna have Toy Story level graphics? If you've never seen graphics like this. Well, guess what guys. You've never seen graphics like this. This is They're pulling from, this is like a game, wait. This is like a game based on a movie that's based on a game. So, it is Insomniac Games, that is gameplay. That is live gameplay, when you saw him running, that's real. That is live, live gameplay- It's playing like a Pixar movie. It's that good. Looking. It's delightful. It is so funny, it's just as pissy and snarky and ridiculous and funny as it has ever been. Mr. Zurkon is my favorite ever. I mean do you not understand how to die? Mr. Zurkon will teach you. And in the same week Dark Souls 3 comes out and those games are cool and everything but Remember when games were just pure fun. Yeah. That's what this game is. Guys there's a gun that turns your enemies into 8 bit characters. The pixelator, you gotta get it. And there are moments when you'll kill so many things on screen and they all turn into little bits, little nuts and bolts everywhere and you are just getting this Bolt city. Cascade. Yeah. This is bolt city cuz it's magnetic and it's just the best thing ever, and seriously you guys, if you're not playing Ratchet and Clank, go get it. If you have a PS4, it's worth your time. Well, I certainly second that. You're so right on. My Intuit Had a little darker tone, guys. My god, I feel a Jeff rant coming on. I feel the heat. Flames from the side of my face. Here's the problem, Ashley. You know, we are both super excited about VR. If you watch this show, we talk about VR constantly. We're ready for the VR future. My gosh. It's 2016. It's VR time- Jeff's so excited, he pre-ordered both VR headsets. Both. My God. March 28th, it's coming out. April, whatever- Aprilish. Yeah, it's awesome. You gotta get ready for the V, guess what? Guess how many of my two VR headsets have been delivered to me? None of them. Zero of them. And I got a email this week from Oculus saying, by the way, my Oculus order went in 12 minutes after it went on sale. We'll the took a picture of [LAUGH] Lucky. [LAUGH] Yeah, it's just like. Double middle fingers at you. You're not lucky. Look it, [UNKNOWN] you're never ever getting these. Yeah It's telling me that even though I got my order in 12 minutes after it went on sale. By the way, I tried to get in even earlier. I was clicking, clicking, clicking. I'm sure. 12 minutes as fast as I could do it. I'm sure. Two months after launch is when I should now expect my Oculus to arrive, which- I heard there's some component problems, like with manufacturing. Which is the most vague, weird explanation. Do you think that maybe, if you take A preorder, two months before your thing is supposed to launch. Then maybe you should check to see if the [UNKNOWN] are available. Isn't the whole point of preorders to actually know how many people you're going to have to delivery these things to. That's the whole preordering right Ashley? I preordered a car twi years in advance. Yes that is the point. And [UNKNOWN] we got to rethink production. Cause, wow a lot of you guys ordered cars. Yeah now we know, we know we had this cool lead time cause it's a preorder. So we have now information how many we have to deliver. Now I will freely admit this is The epitome of first world problems and to me getting upset about not being able to have my new toy is I understand. It's petulant and whatever. But still, any company the thing is I believe in VR and I want it to succeed and these companies are screwing it up. They're not helping you. Now, how can you make your case? Right. How dare they. These are already very expensive things and the fact that you can't even deliver any number of them? And guess what guys vibe is no better. At least [UNKNOWN] now has told me when to expect my shipment. Vibe is still like. April-ish? We think. We hope. I don't know. Pre-ordered that the moment it went on sale too. Yikes. The fact that both of these companies are having these problems, it really is marring what should be a completely transcendent moment in the history of computers because these are I was talking to somebody this weekend about it. VR is the most magical technological experience I've had since the first moment of using the very first Apple phone. Like, it really is that thing that you always crave with technology. You were like, my gosh this feels like the teacher. And the fact that they're screwing it up this much and making people Cancel there pre-orders and messing up credit card transaction, Yeah. All this stuff, it's so messy and disappointing on every level. And that's what I'm into this week. I'm into staring at my screen, Refreshing to hope that they'll email thing and the thing should be arriving, and then getting the Occulus email. It's killing me. You're into disappointment, that's what you're into. Hey, do you know we forgot to do a whole segment of the show? What? We should do Back It or Hack It. Let's do that. Maybe it will make me feel better. [MUSIC] I don't know if this is gonna make you feel better, because I might start ranting this time. [LAUGH] So we're gonna talk about Bento Lab. It's got about a week left in their campaign, they're on Kickstarter. This is a portable DNA lab. Yeah. So we can have DNA tests on the go? On the go. I know when I'm out and about, there is nothing I want more So many times during the day, my God wish I had a portable DNA lab with me right now, [LAUGH] And no nobody said that, nobody said that. Okay>> What do used cases that they suggest to [CROSSTALK] This website Let's discuss here. They're like here's what you can do with it. You can extract DNA, so they've got the centrifuge right there, you can copy DNA- You can clone stuff on the go? Sure, why not. And then you can also visualize DNA, so they're really into that too. So I never have to eat alone again? I can just clone myself and have a lunch Buddy. Who needs children when you could just raise another you, is all I'm saying. So there already. Okay I'll get to the price in a minute. Here, of course the number one question is what can I do with a [UNKNOWN] and they've answer this on their kick start page that I found terribly fascinating and also. Ridiculous. [LAUGH] They said, for example, you could explore your genetic makeup, see if your taste buds detect bitter flavors by testing your variation of the PTC gene. That's fun. Okay. That's kind of like a fun thing. Okay. That feels like giving a kid a home microscope to play with. Sure. But for adults. Check if you're built for endurance by testing your variation of the athlete gene ACTN3 which I clearly, do not possess. Well, I've never heard of the athlete gene. I'm not built for endurance. I played Volleyball. It's a sprint, not a marathon, thank you. Test if you're likely to be lactose intolerant. Explore how blood group genome typing works. Wow, you know how you can also test if you're lactose intolerant? Drink some milk. [LAUGH] Have a bite of ice cream. Eat some cheese. There's so many options. No, but I think the idea is that, it's encouraging people to learn more about their genetic makeup, maybe it's a good thing. Fair enough. I think that there are companies like [UNKNOWN] who have DNA information really popular, it's really hot right now But here's where it gets weird, guys. Here's where it gets weird, gets a little weird. You can examine your food at a molecular level. Test a hamburger to see if it contains horse meat. Investigate your beer for bacteria that spoiled it. Identify GMOs and learn about genetic engineering. Then they talk about, this is where it gets scary. I like the idea that you can put a hamburger in there and the screen just says horse meat. 100% horse meat. You can characterize biodiversity. It says extract ancient DNA from fossils. Sweet, all those fossils that I have now finally are useful. All the fossils I have laying around. Yeah. Test the gender of birds from a feather or [UNKNOWN] identify species DNA barcoding. You can also get research done. So they asked over 500 people how they would use Bento Lab. Yeah. Which I'm assuming, these people who have made Bento Lab. Know a bunch of scientist, right? You would think. You would think those are the primary people they would ask. I hope they are scientists. No, I want to ask like a soccer mom. How are you going to use a DNA lab. Right. But they said a field scientist looking for easy to carry equipment, citizen scientist solving social problems, mychologists, foragers, farmers, veterinary students, designers, artists, brewers, chefs Interested in molecular astronomy, bioscience students, teachers sharing hands-on practicals, that I get, and curious folk with an interest in DNA. That's us! We're curious folk with an interest in DNA. That is me, are you ready to buy? Are you in, do you feel like you wanna buy it? How much, here's what I will pay for this. Here's what I will pay. You tell me if this is [LAUGH] in my price range. Okay. I would pay $150 for this. $150. [NOISE] Probably not. No? Not gonna happen? No. How much? What percentage of one will I get? For about $200, $215, you can get an add-on for the kit. But if you would like a Bento Lab. Yeah. Right now There's classroom Bento, but if you want the launch special, which is already sold out, it's $800. Woof. That's the VR goggles I can't get. That's a Vive, yeah. Hey, but you know what, they might actually ship this to you before your headset. Sad, but true. These are reusable. You could use them as or you used them up. Like the $800, how many DNA tests do I get for $800? Well, they have like, they have the essential accessories. I feel like I'm trying to sell something on an infomercial. But wait, there's more. I would love to see this as an infomercial. It would be amazing. So they're saying it's- Have you always wondered if your hamburger is horse meat? Horses? Has the Bento Lab accessories, so power, gel, they have this gel box and a user handbook But there are also add on stuff, so you can add on [UNKNOWN], it's like you can add on a starter kit, it has ten little experiments that you can do inside the centrifuge, stuff like that. So guys, you're spending about $1,000. Just to see if your hamburger is made of horsemeat. You know what I say? Spend that money on better hamburgers. [LAUGH] Spend that money on VR that you're never gonna get shipped to your house. Yeah. That's what Jeff did. Yeah. That's why I can't afford a bento box anymore cuz I bought two VRs that didn't arrive. I'm of two minds about this. Okay. One, I totally see the application like a microscope or some sort of a science kit that you would get To promote learning and curiosity among kids and students. Classroom science lab that'd be great. I think that's cool. The other side of this is I bet this thing does not work as, it [UNKNOWN] of. I would say very limited results. Very limited sort of like when you get an easy bake oven. Right. And you're like I'm gonna bake a cake and then, you bake the thing and [LAUGH] It's not even close to what it looks like on the box much less actually taste or look like a cake. Yeah. And then, you're just living with disappointment in your stomach. [LAUGH] That It's that except DNA. But with DNA. Another idea, the other thing is like, if you're gonna use this as a kid, do you have to like, prick yourself and get blood to test your DNA? Listen, I don't know. I don't like to ask those types of questions. I don't know [UNKNOWN] I just swipe. Anyway Interesting. It seems pretty pricey for what it offers. It really does, so I'm gonna pass on it, but hey, if you're really into DNA, pick up a Bento Lab. You got about a week left. If any of you are actually getting the Bento Lab, please let us Let us know. Cause we want to know if this thing knows. Maybe the classrooms that watch us will get it for their science lab. Okay you ready to talk about [UNKNOWN] for the day and wrap this up? Let's do it. Nick sent us an email and I've been writing back and forth with Nick for about a couple days. And Nick wrote us and sent us this picture. And said, for your landmark [UNKNOWN] team I thought it only appropriate to take this gorgeous picture of the Eiffel tower on my iPhone 6 plus. while picnicking with my brother I've been an international business student in Paris for the past 3 years, originally from Chicago. And graduating in three weeks. You, of course, have my permission to use this photo. And then, he sent me another email and said, I just wanted to tell you a quick story. As we were looking at this beautiful picture, he said, my best friend referred me to your Tomorrow Daily podcast last year. He was tech-obsessed and loved your long shows. Ever since, I've watched every single one of your podcasts. Last week my best friend, my brother, father to a gorgeous two years old girl Julian. Died in a car crash, due to snowy condition. And he's key fluent from his study brought in Paris to come to the funeral services. And he said I know this might be asking too much but I wanted to try anyways to honor his memory, I hoped you could mention something even all the way at the end of the show just to say a little something for him. He started Gofundme for his niece's college fund and funeral expenses for his parents. But he says I thought this was really sweet, I wanted to read exactly in his words How much his brother meant to him and for a fan of the show, we'll do anything for you guys. He says Julian Harris was a loving son, a mischievous brother, a loyal friend, a caring husband, and an exemplary father. He said just two years ago we went skydiving together and that was one of the only times I ever seen him actually petrified of doing something crazy. I'm gonna miss him and thank you for giving someone a great as him the time to be appreciated. So Julian, you will be missed and you are clearly loved by everybody who knew you. And thank you, Nick, for sharing your story with us because obviously, it's not easy time for you right now. So we at Tomorrow Daily are sending our love to you, and if you want to check out the GoFundMe page, I will tweet it from my personal account and you can come find me on social media. But thank you for sending in both of those pictures. Yes, our thoughts are with you Nick. Thank you so much and we appreciate the beautiful image and the beautiful sentiment as well. Yeah, and I thought it was a nice way to kind of end the week. If you guys wanna send in your phonetography that has a landmark or a monument. And I don't know if anyone's gonna be as good as that beautiful story that was just told. But if you'd like to submit your phonetography, please email us tomorrow at CNET.com. Yeah, we love getting those and finding out the whole story about why you took that picture, what device you took it on, and also So we need to make sure you give us permission to use on this school. And if you want to find us on social media or share the show just head over to tomorrowdaily.com and we'll be back next week. Yes we will. Brand new docket of weird science fact meeting science fiction and making us so happy you guys. It's so good. Thank you again to everybody [UNKNOWN] making of this weeks show of the long show. It was a really good one [UNKNOWN] Now I'm gonna thank you for coming on the show. Nick, thank you for sending in that wonderful story about your brother. I'm so sorry to hear about his passing. And, we will be back next week, but until then. Be a good human. Bye guys. [MUSIC]