CES Day 1: Foldable-screen laptops, Impossible Pork and more
The Daily Charge
Hello, and welcome to the CNET stage coming to you live from CES 2020 in Las Vegas.
We'll be broadcasting live throughout the show.
We're over at the Sands Expo Center known as Tech West.
And this is an action-packed day because today Is the official opening of the show floor.
We are Starting things off in the live stream with our news roundup Show.
I'm Bridget Carey.
And I'm Ben Fox Rubin.
And this is the daily charge.
Now it may be the first day of the show floor is open at CES, but it's not the first day for us because we've spent the past two days in media previous we've seen wild robots giant TV screen.
Concept cars but Roger, I think we have to start the show today talking about something we don't normally talk about [UNKNOWN] at CES, laptops.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm actually excited about laptops for the first time in a long time.
2019 was a big year for foldable phones.
Now, these are phones with foldable screens.
This year at the show, we've seen a bunch of foldable laptops and Obviously all laptops fold but these are actually ones with large continuous bendable displays.
We saw one with Dell, we saw one from Lenovo, and Intel has a concept device, so you will see it later on the stage.
Here, let's take a look at some of them.
Has this one here.
That you see someone drawing on and it's interesting seeing them on video because there's sometimes a little bit of glare but they are a little plasticie.
And it's, the interesting thing is my initial gut reaction is like, why do we need this, but it is the same concept.
The idea of getting a big device, a big tablet per se and then Folding it into a small laptop.
Well, yeah, that's on the Intel stage yesterday they were talking about how it would be immersive video, you open it up and like a 17 inch screen that you would get.
That being said, I'm still trying to wonder what the market is like who actually wants this kind of thing, especially when you're trying to figure out Where you fit the keyboard.
This is Lenovo's.
The Thinkpad X1 prototype.
Which talk about a keyboard, they're just typing right on it, right?
And this one looks a little more interesting, I think a little more polished, but.
A little bit more compact?
I think what they're trying to go for, for these things is that folding them down, it's really small, kinda like the Motorola Razr, right, the idea of a full sized phone that Sort of standard compact, [CROSSTALK]
Yeah, look how it closes.
That one closes all the way.
Not all of them do, some of them have this gap.
I mean, look, the big question I have for this is cuz a lot of them they showed when it's folded into a laptop mode.
They've got a virtual keyboard on the lower half of the screen.
I'm not sure if I'm cool with the virtual keyboard.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking.
Some of them have separate keyboards, so that's okay.
One of those models you have a keyboard that you can actually move.
Right, a keyboard attachment, yep.
We're looking at Intel's right now.
This is the Horseshoe Bend and Yeah, its so interesting
It looks intersting.
And you know it doesn't in the laptop it is maybe the applications makes sense.
But I'm gonna go all right.
And the challenges are different with this because [UNKNOWN] With your wrists on it.
So they really have to kind of be different that the smartphones we've soon.
Well, look, the concern we saw in 2019 with the phones is whether or not these things are durable enough, right?
Whether or not they'll be able to withstand hundreds of thousands of folds We still don't know if that's the case for this.
This is a prototype still.
These are still prototypes, but again, durability is gonna be a question for these foldable phones.
You bring up a good point because you keep laptops for a lot longer than you keep phones
Through certain extent.
So, Yeah, a lot of these are still concepts.
And another thing that they were mentioning at the Intel press conference was you can watch a video on one part of it while you're still scrolling on the other part.
So that's at least one potential use case.
You can sort of multi task.
Yeah, multi tasking, but it's also probably gonna be really expensive at first too, so that's something else for people to consider.
I feel like mentally you have to Use them differently.
I need my clickety clack.
I need that time.
I think this is going to be very like voice if you're into typing with your voice, maybe this is more comfortable or is a secondary machine for displays.
All right, I was gonna say this is coming to the stage at 10am so we could get a closer look and, put it to the test.
Now, this whole year just hasn't felt typical.
I mean, we're talking about laptops but also another big talking topic of the show has been meats or I should say non meat with impossible foods.
Yeah, so impossible foods came out at the show with impossible pork.
I think we're all really waiting for Impossible Bacon and they did say that they're working on it.
And they're also working on Impossible chicken.
I am 100% for Impossible Bacon.
Let's just make it happen.
So Brian Cooley tried it out.
He called it convincing.
He said that this was convincing a Impossible pork.
Okay, so this is ground up [CROSSTALK] Yeah, it's more of a ground pork.
Yeah, we're not talking proscuitto here.
And we've actually, so we had a couple of colleagues try it out.
They said it's pretty convincing.
I know Abrar Al-Heeti actually covered the story.
She she doesn't eat pork at all.
And she doesn't eat pork, and when she did try it, she almost felt guilty about it.
Cuz it was so convincing.
And so that really shows you
How effective that they've turned this fake meat into real tasting meat.
So I don't know.
Have you guys tried the impossible Whopper?
I tried the impossible Whopper once at Burger King.
I thought it was.
Yeah, it was it was convincing but at the same time it's also blended in with like the bun.
And the lettuce and the mayo and all that other stuff.
One of the other elements that's interesting about this is like the health related factors, there's less cholesterol, there are less calories but it's important for people to realize that it's also the sodium content is much, much higher for these things.
So, there's a bit of a give and take [CROSSTALK]
And I notice it really depends on how it repair cuz at certain places, that impossible burger Is just as an unhealthy as a standard burger.
Based on all the other stuff, if you'd like to throw bacon on top of it you can.
It just kind of defeats purpose [INAUDIBLE]
Wow, impossible bacon.
That's what I'm waiting for.
That's the revolution we need.
And we were talking about tech [INAUDIBLE] that can change the world.
I mean, this could make a big impact on our society and the It's not good for the planet with how much-
We do with, like how much we make out of food, out of pork and what we do with animals.
So, it's kind of interesting.
And, yeah, in terms of climate change-
They issue this year and just the share amount of resources that go into producing meat, taking that all off the table and switching to plant-based meat, that's, I mean I can envision a future Not too far off where like, real meets the luxury and like we're mostly just eating plant based meat.
If it tastes good enough,
Otherwise, are you really going to convince people to taste it?
I don't know.
It seems so far that the impossible burger has been pretty successful.
Well, we have to talk about Sony's press conference.
There were a couple of moments there.
I don't know like, like you were you were saying that there was something that everyone was buzzing about.
The well, initially, there was a lot of buzz about Sony unveiling a yeah, the PlayStation five.
At fist we thought like the PlayStation 5 then it turned out it was the logo.
Which, hey, it looks like the PS 4 logo.
So but with the 5. So you know, one more better.
And they said, it is officially coming out this year.
Yeah, it's officially coming out, but we knew that They all kinda do that, so they offer some additional detail to the [INAUDIBLE] feedback, it wasn't stuff that we didn't already kinda know.
But the thing that wowed me was like I'm sitting there going, okay, PlayStation why is there a car on stage?
They rolled out a car.
There was a car?
There was a car.
The folks that made the Are the ones who are who built this concept car basically show off this car platform that they have.
Yeah, it was electric.
What it really wasn't surprising as someone who's covered IBO because they've always said and we're gonna see a video of it here.
I've always said that the technology inside IBO The dog was the same kind of like sensors that they put in cars and they have used a lot of their sensors and they work with Japanese automakers.
To put their sensors in cars.
But here they go hey, we made a complete system and we wanna sell this package as a whole system that talks to each other.
So this was a prototype.
They have no intention of starting to roll out cars anytime soon.
But what they did is they kind of surprise us all when they're sitting on stage looking at this.
So this is [UNKNOWN] don't expect on our current but.
I thought there is base I post design too.
That is like there is so much its baked into that dog they make a quality of it.
We have a door illuminous say that.
[LAUGH] All right with everything they build at the show today I wanna hear we got You all interested?
There's so much that happens.
There's always those products that you say you did makes you do a double take makes you kinda go.
Is this gonna be the buzzy thing?
Roger started off.
What were some of the things that are what was the one thing that kind of made me have a moment.
It was what I've actually mentioned a year ago and this is the wire brush.
I talked about this yesterday.
This is the mouth guard with bristles that you put your mouth.
And it's basically a full cleaning session and replaces flossing and brush your teeth in ten seconds.
Yeah, it's like a mouth guard.
Five seconds of the top five seconds of the bottom boom, you're done.
And it actually is for sale.
That's What I'm impressed about that i can actually go and get it.
It's 125 bucks, it's not cheap.
I get this.
Well you know what?
I was hearing about the OralB toothbrush and they were going like $200 for that.
So we saw-
By the way, the OralB toothbrush I saw it's just an electric toothbrush that That's connected, it gives you data.
Hey, it has a smiley face and a frowny face if you don't brush well.
And you know what?
You don't want your toothbrush sad at you.
But this one, though, is about efficiency.
This one's about really fast.
Exactly, this is about carving out extra time out of your day.
Ten seconds versus, what, two minutes, three minutes a day or three minutes three times a day.
You're saving a lot of time when that adds up.
People got to change their habits, really interesting.
I'm not buying it.
And we know, there's one thing else I forgot about to talk about.
About the show?
Cuz we're talking about all these like weird stuff.
Everyone's been buzzing about neon.
The Samsung Whole artificial intelligence it is a Can we show some like we just last night got images of what Neon is.
There we are.
Roger, what do you know about Neon?
We know a little about Neon.
For one, it is funded by Samsung although I talked to some folks in the on the like stress that they were not part of Samsung even though they're
Fully invested, what we're looking at right now is a CG human that they claim is so convincing that you can have a conversation with this person and not really figure out that this is an artificial human.
That's what they call it.
Yeah, to clarify-
And it's a digital person.
There's no physical means.
And this is weird.
This is a Steve Jobs looking woman Who is, if you look at it, her actions looks kinda convincing, right?
Smiling, it's creepy, it's absolutely creepy [CROSSTALK].
Well actually, I would say it's not creepy in a sense that it isn't look that fake.
It's not Polar Express creepy.
No, it's definitely not that, and we're gonna get more hands on time today.
They're starting to do demos, one on one demos with people today, so-
Yeah, this is not a personal asssistant, everyone.
This is just a computer with a video that can talk to you and have a conversation.
It can be a friend, an instructor.
You're not asking this the same questions you would ask Amazon, Alexa or Siri.
You would just simply have a conversation it reminds me of my Microsoft Tay.
But Tay wasn't a video.
And Tay was a AI chatbot.
And the internet got a hold of Tay and turned her into this terrible racist-
It did not go well for Tay for one day.
Yeah, the worst thing ever.
But But there you go.
So we area gonna have to see more about this by actually getting some time with it.
Yeah, we are gonna get more information on the coming days for sure.
Ben, let's keep it going, what was the thing at the show that just made you do, what is this moment?
Yeah, the Sherman rollbot.
This is basically a cute little robot that brings you toilet paper if you run out.
You can [INAUDIBLE] your phone so you just kinda press a button and then it's supposed to bring you toilet paper-
We heard it onstage yesterday, I have seen this.
It legit doesn't make any sense.
AndI can tell you I wanted to really get in the spirit of it.
I sat down and asked for the Sherman robot to deliver me some teepee, cuz that is how we test things here at CNET.
So here it is on the stage yesterday And it was just a guy dragging around.
It looks like it's revving up.
It's like I'm on my mission now, gotta deliver the toilet paper.
There you go.
And the idea is that it would've mapped your house to know where your bathroom is.
It's just so ridiculous.
Well you would be on your phone going Charmin bot, I need some more TP.
Come get me.
It can't open the door.
It can't open the door, it doesn't have arms.
I think the Roomba's much better.
Well, if my children close the door, I can open the door for them.
Okay, so you would buy it?
I would not buy this.
Well, for one, this thing is gonna go on sale.
And by the way, this is so CES.
Well, you've got a house where you can go yell at someone to go get you some more.
That's what happens in our household.
So the The funny thing about that is that we were talking about who created it were like, why do you create this stuff?
They have all sorts of silly gadgets for the bathroom.
And he said, Well, a lot of ideas don't always make it.
They were actually had an idea for a noise cancelling on the toilet.
When you don't want a tooth so loud.
Use the same thing as noise cancelling headphones with waves that you see at Bose headphones, but just like cancel out that part.
I feel like people might actually use that one more than the robot.
That seems to make a lot of sense actually.
it's very, very CES.
Yeah, very CES.
So my double-take moment was at the end of the day with Samsung and the Ballie.
This is the companion ball in your house that rolls around, plays with your pets, talks to your other devices.
Basically, it can be an assistant of remote control.
Records video, I go like this going, What?
This is a disaster.
I'm going to trip over this thing.
I felt like Samsung was trying to Get on this trend of how do we have a robot in your house that's friendly like Sony's Aibo or other.
But really that this was just like your little ball robot that will go around the house and-
Yeah, it's part of this trend of making robots cute and accessible and getting them into our house.
It's not cute, that doesn't have a face.
It's just cute color.
I don't know, so Just said it looks cute to them.
It's cute in that it's like it's circular and doesn't look like a kill [UNKNOWN]
It doesn't look threatening,
But you're right that you
That you you could
Actually trip over it.
From this black mirror.
I feel like we're only a few steps in between that
In fact that it can talk to the other devices and likes, tell your vacuum start going like that.
That's the light like ways they gonna tell everything else, like what do you-
You two talking about me behind my back-
Now so many prototype now, so this is not something you can buy but, it's were we're heading.
All right, we went to reload, really fast
And tomorrow, it's gonna be even more, so I'm excited we're just getting started.
That is a wrap for the daily [UNKNOWN] today.
We're gonna be back at the same time tomorrow.
I'm Bridget Carey.
I'm Roger Cheng
I'm Ben Fox Rubin.
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