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Okay welcome to CNET CNET stage here at CES 2017.
This is CES In-depth on day one of the show.
This is the formal opening of the day.
I'm Brian Kuli, Dr Scottstein here as usual to monitor my condition in case there are any health emergencies, he's ready to jump in the breach to make sure the show continues on.
Yeah.
The HD comes next year.
Well this helps with the biggest trends of the show so far.
That's what you imagine from the best of CES show.
Now, first up Scott, we're gonna talk about adorable robots like Curry.
I was hoping a whole rise of little robots here that I until this show thought it was the stupidest thing on earth.
And then I got a look A Curie.
And I'm smitten.
It is adorable.
And that's what they're [LAUGH] trying to do-
[LAUGH] That's all they're trying to do!
Dammit, they're trying to win us over.
And they are.
Artificial Intelligence.
Yeah that is a trend, adorable robots.
Padded robots, cute robots, Googley, googley, cuddly beeping robot.
And Curry is a surveillance robot that should creep us out right.
It is actually really cute, it's engaging and that's a great victory here.
We were talking about this yesterday computer vision Artificial intelligence, those have been advancing really rapidly.
And so these robots move in the same way as before but they're doing much more powerful things.
They're much more smart and intuitive because of that, like is it democratization of machine learning and computer vision.
And the fact that they are going first at the A durability factor which sounds ridiculous, but I think it is absolutely the way you sell, not just the category, but your specific entry because I believe the functions of these robots will all be commodity.
They all do about the same thing just like our phones, just like our televisions, just like everything else.
But who is gonna win in the end is the one that I And this is crazy to say, the one that I have a relationship with.
And there's a stealth thing going on here, we use Amazon Echo, we talked to things but they're hitting a lull.
So maybe things like this are exploring how those devices will start engaging next.
Yeah, yeah.
They might start developing ways to try to get our attention
Feel like they're responding to us more, so we don't feel like we hit that, I don't understand you, I can't respond to that query.
Happens to me all the time, on any voice device.
What's interesting about Query though, people look at this from talking about Echo, Alexa and all that is, Query doesn't talk.
Query can hear you, but Query only communicates with faceless expressions, head turns, and little R2D2 light beeps and blurps
Yeah I want that with that head sitting on top of a Amazon Echo.
I want like the little robot head so it doesn't know it can turn it's head to the side.>> I do want the power of Alexa in this thing.
Will probably be announced any day now.
Right?
I mean if not they're insane.>> It's out there.>> But I don't we, You and I were talking yesterday.
I'm not sure I want it to try to hard To be specifically human, and may be, really good voice.
I can't believe I'm saying this, may be really good voice is a bridge too far?
It'll lose its specialness, because in a year from now, everything is going to be talking to us in natural language.
That's going go commodity too.
Right, and it makes sense for something that's not to talk, because if you have one thing you're talking to in your home, we're already probably have this down on our homes
You talk to something in a more than one thing response.
Right, that day is coming.
Yeah, and it's like already kind of happening, and so you can't have that and one company is not gonna win your home, unless you become like,
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think so, I think you'll still have some device that doesn't connect, so you're gonna have zombie cyclist.
[LAUGH] Right.
And be responsive at other way.
Right.
The kids at the household.
I believe you think we're nuts, I don't blame you.
But when you get a chance to check this little robot out, I think it's the leader in the category.
It's a $699, [UNKNOWN] robotics is bringing it out.
They're taking free orders now.
You do a $100 deposit, like a very affordable Tesla and they don't deliver until a year from now.
If it slips, we're in to 18 So this is down the road a ways but I gotta say I was taken and I don't like robots.
So this impressed me.
This is the CES of the robot.
This is what it is.
All of back years from now, you put in there, having a cool refreshing cocktail and a smokling->> Served to us by robots?
It was served by robots.
Remember 17th?
That damn robot year?
And we'll be taking a tour robot.
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You remember that?
I do not remember that.
I'm smiling, [INAUDIBLE] robot.
Or in [UNKNOWN] language [UNKNOWN].
All right, Carrie was cute, cute as a button.
LG [UNKNOWN] you're as in love with this thing as I am, right?
Yeah and I actually went to go check it out and it's amazing.
I took a picture of it, people couldn't believe how thin it was.
And if you show TVs can be damned cool still and sure do you need a thin tv do you need a big tv like that thin
yeah
It's not anything to look at
Yes I need a thin tv more than an 140 inch tv that we normally see here i don't think i heard anybody roll out a tv that's the new world's biggest
No
For the first time in I think
Ten years, I have not heard that here.
Instead I saw world's thinnest.
And that makes so much more sense to me than a TV that I literally can't get through a standard eight-foot door in an average home.
I love the idea of applying like wallpaper.
I love it.
Or if you could eventually just put these up easily.
That's the other thing is mounting them easily.
15 pounds is nothing.
Right, and then->> For a company to hire someone.
And as we notice, we're looking at the video now.
It has a sound bar that is more than a sound bar.
That is also the break out box if you will where a thin, flat ribbon comes off this very thin ten Inch screen.
Goes to that sound bar.
And on the sound bar, you see right there are all your ports for HDMI USB, your audio connections, and power as well.
So the power goes up through a flat rib.
And nothing spoils the illusion of floating except for a very flat ribbon cable that you're maybe you're gonna run it if you wanna be ambitious or Just put that thing down with some double sticky tape and paint it.
I'm sure that [UNKNOWN] religion in LG world.
That's what I would do.
I got a roller.
I'll paint that damn thing.
Put the Scotch double stick behind it, I'm done.
Why's there more wire hiding paint?
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Special textured.
Really thick.
Yeah.
[LAUGH] It's like putty.
[SOUND] It's put it on like that.
I don't know how they do-
[LAUGH] Okay, now you gotta explain this one to me.
The Razor laptop that came out that supports multiple high performance monitors.
I get it, but I don't get it.
Right it's the classic CES laptop, this is the computer, those concept ones that keep appearing
And it's the most absurd or the coolest thing you've seen.
We're looking at it now.
There it is.
Razer loves doing this.
Razer is the king of CES showstopper ideas.
Now my question.
This is a single, three panel articulated monitor, not three monitors all stuck standing in their own stands?
Right, yeah, they pull out.
Okay, it's a make up
Come here.>> Yeah.>> If I pull out make your own crazy makeup mirror of magic screen.>> Okay.>> And there was a laptop in the past that did something like this with the second display.>> The NOGA>>>This big and Dan Ackerman showing us right now.
There are games that take advantage of multiple monitors.>> Sure.>> Tons of them.
You know you have mercy there are reasons to connect monitors And screens.
You don't need them all in one laptop though.
You could set them up yourself.
I way more get it now that I'm seeing the packaging of the great industrial design exercise where these all unfold from a thick layer and go out.
I thought it was just three monitors that we're all cabling individually->> Right, no.
I though you're out of your mind.
No, it's the right price.
A lot of people would go for that.
That's very slick industrial design.
It's cool and if you start developing screens that bend more in the future, maybe future screen tech [UNKNOWN] start [UNKNOWN]
And then curve screens make sense [UNKNOWN] don't make sense for groups, don't make sense for the family TV but they do make sense for the individual user who's positioned properly, for [UNKNOWN] at the just the right arms length and now
You have to wonder if that competes with VR.
It's not as immersive but close.
Yeah, I agree.
And I think for gamers there's a real question of if your game looks really great at high resolution, do you want to put something on in VR that, right now, is a lower resolution but higher immersion.
And a lot of people don't like that and the interfaces are different.
Of course.
You know, a lot of first person games don't port the same way.
Of course.
I agree, a lot of people might prefer to add the monitor.
Okay, that's cool.
I do get it now.
Thought I was losing my step there for a minute.
Thank you monitor resolution.
Now BR and AR of course, still advancing here at CES.
Not a new topic by any stretch.
But intel tried to kind of make things go eh and kind of kick it a little bit with a 3-D video walk through demo of a core technology.
That they've got.
You've gotten a look at this, right?
This I haven't seen yet.
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Okay, but we have a video, I think, of that.
All the lucky people at the press conference did yesterday.
This is the press conference where the media-
Yeah.
That attended actually had VR headsets on as Intel showed off.
What is a i guess we can call it as a highly moveable placement of you in the scene you can go anywhere at any time.
Yeah this is a knitting together of a good video into a 3D I think they were calling it a [UNKNOWN] render it was tremendous high bandwidth.
3 gigabytes per second it's huge.
Crazy amount
But the idea that you could walk around in a 3D video, or feel like that.
I mean, the effect is somewhere between, it looks like somewhere between video game and video but feeling like a real video.
If you can see it there, kind of has a little bit of a sky rim feel, like a Like it's a video but more [UNKNOWN].
I'll say this.
This kind of thing is, if you're going to do VR, that's really the gold standard we have to work toward is giving me the ability not to be fixed in place, not to hop between selectable locations.
I need to be able to move through this thing as if it's in the world
Yeah, and for the fantasy of capturing your memories or some sort of place you've been and be able to walk around in it later
Yeah
Sure.
And I think everyone's trying to strive to come up with a new idea in VR.
All the big players in VR, a lot of them, are taking the show off Oculus Rift, Playstation VR.
VR's run into a use case wall.
Yeah.
The hardware and the technology's there.
The use cases, despite a lot of good minds in various communities haven't found that, I don't think, they haven't found their Pokemon.
one.
Well everyone I know, not everyone I know.
A lot of people I know who use VR, myself included, despite how amazed they are by it even if they own it, don't return to it quite as often as they could.
Because it's huge commitment.
Yeah.
And you gotta overcome that, and maybe smaller devices and, you have Qualcomm, Intel and other players in the market now all wanting to get involved to.
And you can see a lot of people throwing things against the wall trying to And then incorporating adverted reality which is even more not there yet but->> That's where mixed reality conversation where we're seeing a lot of players say, wait but let's give you some of the very photo realistic, imported objects and people that we bring in from the VR world but you're still seeing them placed in you're real world and as you turn your head they don't move because they're placed in the scene not placed in your vision which is a very important psychological difference.
And then you wanna get, really get tripped out by it, there's another way it works.
Merged reality or mixed reality.
Intel calls it merged.
There's another way it does it.
Project Alloy and a couple of others, capture stuff in the real world, scan it and then put it into VR.
That's called mixed reality too.
But it doesn't look like things are in the real world, it does the opposite.
So you're in VR, But it also knows where your table is.
Or your friend is in there.
Why do you use that?
Well, that's what people are trying to figure out.
And they wonder why consumers are bewildered by AR and VR.
And now we're gonna introduce them to mixed reality.
There's a lot of time [UNKNOWN].
Boy, all right let's go to the vomitorium as I call it.
Some companies showing off VR, doing it saying hey, come stand here, put on our VR headset, we're gonna blow you away.
They typically do, but Samsung went to the point of [LAUGH] putting you in any number of almost Victorian torture devices.
And then strapping on VR, here's [UNKNOWN].
Is that [UNKNOWN] in there?
Yeah.
[CROSSTALK] close my eyes.
[LAUGH] We're holding on tight, we're chilling, we're chilling.
Two, we're gonna launch Okay.
All right.
Here we go.
We're going down this track.
We're gonna launch ladies and gentlemen.
Ladies and gentlemen, we're in space right now.
This is tight, there's a large ship, like star destroyer.
Let me out of this.
Dude.
[LAUGH].
Okay, we're going through these like tunnel targets.
[SOUND] No, okay, okay.
[LAUGH] More tunnels, more space ships.
Okay, we're doing the swishy things.
Uh-oh, there's some blue tunnel, aw, damn, aw.
[NOISE] Hyper space.
[NOISE] Okay, there's like asteroids and more spaces and air blowing in my face.
I haven't wet myself yet.
I'm still holding onto my lens.
[NOISE]
Okay now I'm going through crystals.
I'm getting rocked!
Stay on target, stay on target!
Stay on.
[CROSSTALK] So, clearly-
More tunnels, more spaceships?
Stay on target.
Stay on target!
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I gotta try this out now.
Famous last words.
Boom.
If you can't win people over with VR and make [CROSSTALK]
If that doesn't do it.
Yeah.
Forget it, forget it.
That's it.
They put everything they could behind it.
Anyway, nothing new in the technology but something you may have never seen in terms of the length the technology companies will go Go to put you through an experience here and sell the concept.
There's a little thing going on here that I think is hinting at too exactly.
No new [UNKNOWN] gear VR but there's striving for a theme park type experience.
Probably no accident because You don't have to buy the tech necessarily.
And you only use it for a short period of time.
And you can sense there's a theme park-ization feeling of arcade, theme park, test it, don't buy it.
And so I think companies are actually trying to figure that out.
And that maps to the thing we were just talking about.
A lot of people who even own VR early on, they basically sample it.
There's not a frequent use case.
And so they may be the first ones that discover, you know what, this belongs like I think 3D printers in the hands of vendors and service companies.
Not in every kitchen counter in the world.
I'm glad Samsung wasn't trying to sell us on a giant gyroscopic spinner.
For a living room.
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Family hub gyroscope
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That would be->> That would be->> Can you imagine?
Yeah.
Dead serious, no tongue in cheek.
It's like, absolutely, every home should have this.
2018.
Why wouldn't you want this?
Yeah, it's coming.
Of course.
Alexa powered.
Yeah, of course.
[LAUGH] All right, I think we wrap up now with a concept car.
The [UNKNOWN] here from Bosh, a big supplier of tech to many of the world's automaker that has haptic touch gestures That's not entirely new, but also facial recognition, your phone as a key, they can took of all the greatest hits of what's coming soon in cars and rolled that into one concept of how we might deal with vehicles in the future.
So here it is, I mean we're kinda looking at a concept car, nothing about this is remotely realistic.
But if you look at the idea of haptic facial recognition Also, voice recognition is being talked about in the industry.
A lot of this, frankly, is almost, this is Toyota's concept that has something similar called Yui.
Car companies right now are trying to figure out we need to have a new relationship between you and the car as they start to become autonomous.
We're not gonna just leave you to twiddle your thumbs.
We still want to be engaged with you as a brand, even though we're not doing so by making you drive.
But we still wanna be involved with you, otherwise, why are we doing this?
They don't really care about autonomy unless it leads to them having a more and different relationship with the driver.
Because they're just to sell cars or services or something.
Not to give you a self driving car and say go do what you want with it.
Yes, find new ways to make it work to make it, I keep think about what Toyota's talking about, about making it engaging with the driver and developing a relationship that makes sense, responsiveness.
Yeah, well and a lot of that was about that, was it decrement of vigilance they talked about?
That's a great phrase.
I like that.
I think that was it.
He's gonna say it was a seminal study in the 40s, Gil Pratt said that You notice that radar operators on warships, back in World War II.
No matter how intrigued they were about making sure they didn't have an attack coming, eventually you lose interest.
Your mind wanders, you may be staring at the radar still, and you stop seeing things because your eyes are bored.
I guess it's the simple way to put it, so car makers and Bashir, Toyota as well, started to talk about how do we get cars to have a I miss the holding on loosing relationship with you they're not totally going to have your attention because they're going to let you stop driving still moving down the road but they want to keep you vaguely and lightly engaged just a little tap once in a while just to say hey remember we're still doing this together
I just had a thought that goes back to the beginning what if we go full circle what if those cue robots end up in our cars
I want CUrie to drive me out of here right now.
Yeah, like an adorable car in her face.
Right.
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Go in her cute car.
[INAUDIBLE] And then the greatest heartbreak of all time when you realize the Curie knows the f-word when she has her first road rage moment.
Come on Curie.
Of course your darling little thing.
All right, that's it for CES In-depth for this first day of CES 2017.
Myself Scott and Simon we'll back here, you'd love to be back to be here tomorrow right?
Yeah.
Okay, we'll be back on the decks tomorrow same back time and channel and all that, and that will be tomorrow and we'll see you when programming starts again in the CNET stage at 9am specific tomorrow.
Until then
Enjoy the show if your still here have a good evening.
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