Ever wondered what a 'Resident Futurist' does? We asked one (Tomorrow Daily 395)Ted Schilowitz stops by the studio to talk about what it's like creating new cinematic experiences with Barco Escape and how he became 20th Century Fox's resident futurist.
On today's show we deep dive into golf cart jet pack, robot cowboy and of course an art installation that I would like to live in forever. Then Ted Schilowitz from Barco escapes stops by to tell us how they are revolutionizing the film going experience Starting with Star Trek Beyond. We're also checking out a really interesting crowd fund, that will allow you, using virtual reality, to listen to an orchestra in outer space. It's gonna be a good episode. Tomorrow Daily. [MUSIC] Greetings citizens of the internet. Welcome to Tomorrow Daily, the best new talk show in the universe. I'm Ashley Esqueda. And I'm Jeff Cannata. We're going to deep dive today. Got some really great topics. We got our ear plugs, nose plugs, swim caps. Diving deep. Get out your swim caps, get on the diving board and let's hit the headlines. [MUSIC] All right. First stop, we're gonna have to talk about Crystal Universe. This is a part of the art exhibit we talked about earlier this week. It's a part of DMM. Planet. I was sick on Monday and I really wanted to discuss this with you. Is this thing gorgeous? It's amazing that walking through this sort of lit wonderland that I mean several different exhibit. Yeah. The one. There's so many. Yeah. And they're all this kind of marriage of art and technology. This technological almost fantasy world that you could just step through. Lit up, illuminated worlds. Beautifully lit up. And you can interact with them with your cellphone. Yeah, I love this. They have this smartphone feature where you can download the app for the exhibit, and then it has a whole bunch of different types of things, like a nebula, or you know different things that happen in outer space and you can actually hold it, press it and throw it to the exhibit as you're in it and then it will do that thing. Like Pokemon, just like Pokemon. The Koi pond one, where you're kinda walking along this illuminated virtual koi pond It's sort of a high they sort of I guess they put fog on the ground. And then they have, project a sort of abstract Koi pond. Yeah. At about calf level. And you can interact with it as you walk through it. I love this soft black hole. Have you seen this? That Are you allowed to actually lay down like that? Yeah, that's the whole point. So you go in there and it's like. Cuz I wanna do that. So the whole space, they're saying your body influences other people's body. So you lay down and as you do that, obviously, the air inside this soft black hole. Adjust how other people are laying. It's like the world's largest water-bed. It looks like that a little bit. It really does. Amazing. This is so cool, I wish we could visit. It is all the over in Japan. It's until the end of August, in Japan. So if you have a plane ticket booked for Japan or you live near Japan and you can get there cheaply, you can go to Tokyo Go see this and then brag to us about how great it was and how we totally missed out. Because I have to save up for Tokyo 2020, I've got to save up for the olympics. There's going to be a robot village. Man. There's a lot of stuff. But Bedjam agrees with that. We had some user feedback. Bedjam wrote in and said the interactive art is something I wish someone would do in my Arena, seems amazing. Yeah. His area. And I agree with you Bedjam. I agree. Why do we not have more of these happening in the States? Here in L.A. we have the Broad Yeah. And we have the Infinite Room. The Infinity Room. I just went to the water room in- The Rain Room, at Lacma, which was really cool. They have You only get 15 minutes in there. And the tickets are crazy to get. They are sold out for a month. Yeah. You walk into this big black space with like, I don't know ten people total. And there is just a shower of water coming down the center and there is sensors in the ceiling. And so, when you walk towards the water, which is just a sheet of water coming down. It senses that you're close and it creates a little pocket for your body to stand in. So you can walk through this volume of water and not get wet, well, I mean, you get a little bit wet. But mostly, not wet. Like as if you are walking in rain- without being rained on. Exactly, rain envelops you, but not in the space you're in because we had these Senators, it's pretty cool. And it's just another example, I mean, last week we went and visited the hamster drawing, hamster machine, and I love that, We did it. that artistry and technology are inventing these new ways to perceive our world and Sure It is technology is beautiful and I think that's one of the themes of this show is how beautiful technology is and this is just another example of that. Yeah and I think this is also one of those situations where it never, sometimes technology like for me it never needs to have a purpose sometimes like it can just be beautiful, it can just make something beautiful and this to me is such A reflection of that and how technology can be used to create something we have never seen before, never experienced before. Yeah. But it's truly art and a lot of people I think maybe think of technology as a sort of cold, [UNKNOWN] Feeling thing but when you see the things like Teamlab are making with technology, I mean that is the obvious rebuttal to that argument. It's like how can it be cold and unfeeling when you feel so much just watching a video of this. Yeah. It's really incredible. Really really cool stuff. It's really great. [UNKNOWN] I know, we want to go to there. If anybody has a free pair of plane tickets to Japan and to that exhibit Call us. [LAUGH] Okay, let's talk about your favorite story this week, Swagbots. It's a cowboy robot, like I've always wanted. This story just, I think it's- Howdy partner! [LAUGH] I wonder if you can teach it how to laugh though, I bet you- That'd be rad. So Swagbot is really interesting. It appears, as far as my research goes, it appears that Australia, the government of Australia is really making an effort to find ways to incorporate robotics into farming and professions that would normally be traditionally very analog. Not digital, not incorporated into technology at all This is really cool because a lot of places in Australia are extremely remote, so a lot of these livestock herds just sort of roam without any supervision until they need to be checked in on, or sheered, whatever, if you're sheep you're going to Sweaters. So now Swag Bot, they are, right now, it's just sort of keeping an eye on things. But then it's going to at some point, they're gonna embed a bunch of different censors, four different kind of censors, to be able to tell if any of these animals are sick or injured. Yeah. Based on their body temperature If the color of them is any different? If, I mean, a lot of different stuff. So they're gonna be able to monitor these like livestock. Which is so cool and something I would have never thought of. Putting a lot of sheep dog out of business though. For sure. It's the no sheep dog lobby. Those Australia sheep dogs are- The sheep dog union's gonna be very upset. They are protesting and now Swag Bot is a Scabs. They might as well call it scab bot. Crossing those picket lines. Those dog picket lines. I think it's an example though, of how robots and real sort of AI technology is going to seep into things that are much more nuanced. You know, for many years robots have been on assembly lines, doing Right. a very mundane thing. And we're at this point now where, with you know, learned, robot intelligence Where applications for robots and artificial intelligence and technology are gonna be able to do things that people would have to do and people would have to do because of their judgement, right? Right. This is a thing that's gonna allow To have to decide and say this animal is sick. Yeah. Those types of decision have not traditionally been made by a robot. Right. And to think that this thing could be out in a remote place learning. It's pretty cool. It is really cool. And I also like what you said about traditionally we've had robots in factories. Manufacturing- Right. So you have these robots on an assembly line and they're very stationary. They don't go anywhere. They dont do anything. They're just sort of There. Yeah. And now we're starting to see this sort of dawn of roaming robots. Yeah. And they are out and about like helper robots. You seem them in Japan, like Pepper. Yeah. Pepper walks around. Pepper talks to you. Pepper interacts with you. Pepper is designed to keep elderly people in Japan from being lonely. Not just. Hey your health-- Right. But also companionship and different things like that. So maybe the sheep will come to love Swagbot as a friend. The animated GIFs that we will get. It's counterintuitive almost because when you imagine the future you think of this like Blade Runner-esque Urban sprawl. Crazy dystopia, but that's not most of the world. Yeah, and to think that you can have that level of technology in a rural environment is pretty interesting. It's pretty awesome. It's not something that would jump to my mind first. Yeah, it almost makes me want to do Like to write a script or something about, not Firefly like but very much like-- Yeah. Where you see a lot of technology in an extremely rural area. Yeah. As if it is a completely normal thing. I love that sort of future. It's really fun to think about. Okay, so last story and then we will take a break and welcome Ted Shilowitz. To our stage, we'll go back in time in our time machine, cuz we pre-recorded that interview. But, we have to discuss this golf cart jetpack, because. Yeah, the golf cart jetpack. First of all, golf cart jet pack you guys. This thing is huge. When you look at the video, with Bubba Watson, which first of all he can't even ride in it. He couldn't ride in it. They would not allow him to ride it, of course, because he's an Olympic athlete, and god forbid that golf cart jet pack crashes. He just shoots off into the sky and never seen again. Never see him again. It's a hole-in-one into another universe. Like, into a black hole, a black hole in one. we did it. [LAUGH] We did it, just shut it down everybody. We're done, we're done here. Black Hole in One is my new band name and also the greatest thing we've ever thought of on this show. So golf cart jet pack, total publicity stunt, obviously, but a real working Jetpack. Yeah. This is a really big jetpack. It can do vertical takeoff and landing. It's a one person jetpack, but it is gigantic. It looks like it is about the size of a golf cart. Yeah. Not nearly as quiet as a golf cart. Well that's the thing, you know, when this This company first announced their jetpack technology in a big fan fair, big internet rollout. Everyone's very excited. Excited. And then you see what it is, and this is not the jetpack future that I dreamed of. It's not the tiny jetpack we saw in Tomorrowland. Yeah. The movie, Tomorrowland. This is not rocketeer. The beautiful Rocketeera. It's not personal jet pack technology. This is like, you put it in the garage. Put a car on your back and fly yourself around. Yeah, but still very cool. But, I mean, this does beg the question for me, where are we gonna see personal transport going? Because Yeah. One, we have autonomous cars right. So we have the advent of autonomous vehicles that are going to be sort of taxi services where you'd summit it in an urban city and you take your cab wherever and it drives you there and then it goes away. It goes back to some location without a driver. What about the [UNKNOWN]? We saw that at CES. Right. It's sort of a very large individual drone. Drone, yeah. That you get inside, and it's covered, and then you have things like this, like In 50 years do you think people will be using those? Because I feel like they probably will. If they get a little smaller and they're a little bit less expensive, I mean I If I lived less than ten miles from work, I feel like I'd take a jetpack to work, right? Well. Just like a motorcycle, just like a motorcycle. In my fantasy world, I would definitely take a jetpack. I just don't think it's this jet pack. No no no. I'm saying in 50 years. Yeah. The evolution let's say in 50 years, do you think people will be riding jet packs to work? I actually think that this it's interesting that this is a golf pack jetpack, cuz I I think the use case will be oddly analogous, right? A golf cart is something that isn't particularly useful in the world. It has a very specific narrow use. Okay. And I think this kind of jet pack technologies also gonna have a very specific narrow use if it ever becomes main stream at all. You think so I mean but what I don't want that to be the case What about just putting on a little backpack the size of a Jansport and just flying to work? Like, that seems like the, that's like, I feel the moment we can truly say like, we are living the Jetsons, you guys I Because it's not a flying car, you are flying yourself Nobody wants that more than me. Nobody in the world wants that more than me. Just like I just can't 500 feet above the ground, jetpack it right into Burbank You just Imagine you're sitting in your high rise here in your office building. You see the bat signal. I'm near the call. And you put on your jetpack and you fly away. What I'm imagining is sitting there in front of the window having lunch, and it's just smack! Sliding down the window. Listen. That set, horrible sound and sliding down the window. That's gonna happen for sure because people are not great. I think autonomy is probably, maybe that's the case. There you go. Autonomous jet packs. Just strap yourself in and it's like, you're just taking wherever the jet pack takes you. It takes you. It's just like flying you around. I would love that. [LAUGH] An autonomous jet pack. It's just a big hook that hooks the back your shirt and you're just like whoa, here we go! [LAUGH] Yes, yes. That I need, that I need. Sounds good to me. I totally love that and there's nothing that makes me happier- [LAUGH] Than the idea of an autonomous- All right. Hook. That will take me anywhere I want to go in town. [UNKNOWN] I got to have a beautiful astronaut clear helmet, though. There you go. So I can make sure my hair looks good. Yeah. When I land. All right, guys. That is it for our headlines. We are going to take a quick break. We are going to come back. Ted [UNKNOWN] from Barco Escape is going to be in the studio. This is an awesome discussion, don't miss it. Two days ago, he'll be in the studio. And then we're going to talk to him about this really cool experience, where. You sit in a movie theater. And if it's Barco Escape, you actually get to watch a full three screen movie experience in Star Trek Beyond this weekend, which is pretty amazing. So stick around. It's Tomorrow Daily. [MUSIC] Welcome back to the show, we are very excited to welcome our next guest. This man is the chief creative officer at Barko Escape. He's also the resident Futurist at 20th Century Fox How do I apply for that job? We're so excited to have Ted Schilowitz here with us. We might have some openings. You never know. Hey, I'm interested, please. Do you need an assistant futurist? We might [INAUDIBLE] an assistant futurist. We have a whole team of people that are Kind of on the curve with us that are figuring things out. So futurist, we'll talk about that, and we'll talk about Barko because you have some really exciting stuff happening with Star Trek Beyond this weekend We do. So let's talk a little bit about the title futurist because to me This seems like a really cool sexy, mysterious job [LAUGH] and I wanna know what the day today entailed because to me the idea of being the futurist mean you're sort of think tank about the future and you go listen to 21 Century Fox. I think the future is gonna have way more robots than this or you need to put more robots into this movie. Sort of. [LAUGH] It's a little more pedestrian than that. I often refer to myself as a glorified lab rat. I'm a guy who's constantly, and we have a bunch of labs, one of our labs is called the bunker, the VR bunker, where it's like this little staircase, and->> I want to live in the VR bunker. Can we rent it? Yes you can rent it, you can come over and visit, we'll have you over and To visit. That would be awesome. And, when you talk about it, it sounds like we built the Batcave. You know, it's like the most amazing place in the world. When you go to it, there's a bunch of technology inside a room. A bunch of VR and AR stuff, a bunch of monitors, a bunch of future thinking stuff But it's just a dark room. We're really comfortable with that. But then we're sort of spread out all over the lot. We have a big theatre on the lot where we experiment with stuff with the Barco Escape stuff. We have an area in the tower, the Nachtomi Tower Sure. on the facts in the nation lab, where That's where you clone Bruce Willis over and over again. That's a repeat I guess, perfect! So you're not, it's not that you are invising film makers about what the future's gonna be to put in the movies, it's that, you are developing technologies to expand and improve the ways we appreciate. Yeah, they all gonna dubbed up together but, it's more the second one. It's more Looking at what is around the next corner. What's around the bend here that may become important, relevant, and extraordinarily valuable for the entertainment industry. And what we've done over the past few years since I've kinda taken on this very odd and interesting job Is really driven Fox into the forefront of the conversation of being the studio that is the most forward thinking, the most what I call lean forward as opposed to lean backward, not afraid of taking risks, not afraid of figuring things out, not afraid of seeing what are the things that people are working on in the dark corners that are gonna become things. And interestingly enough, the timing of me joining Fox when I left this movie [UNKNOWN] company Red, when I retired from that And one of my friends at 20th Century Fox is the president of production there who's part of this little posse of pioneers. His name's Ted Galiotto. I said come and be the futurist at the movie studio and just you know you kind of have your ideas on a lot of things and you've always been on the sort of forefront of this stuff. Sure. Helping build stuff and start companies and figure things out. Would you be willing to do that for the movie studio? And essentially help guide us a little bit into what might be relevant. What's next, right. What's next. And the timing was really interesting. Because a lot of this VR stuff started to happen right around that time. So I was. Very early on with Oculus guys, very early on with the Valve team, and the HTC team, and the Sony team, and the Samsung team, and Microsoft in Holland, and a small group called ODG that's doing next gen AR stuff that we're working on. And those are just Was just the highlights. And there's tons more out there that- So exciting. But all day long, I just experiment and have these various things on my face. Or in an immersive cinema experience with [UNKNOWN], the first two movies we did with [UNKNOWN], two Fox movies, the first two Maze Runner movies That were really successful and now of course we're on the cusp of Star Trek Beyond and Escape. So let's talk a little bit about Barco Escape because I think a lot of people probably don't know that A) it exists, because there's so few theatres that can play Barco Escape content. And then on top of that, what you guys have planned for, it's little bit like IMAX, where it's a cinematic experience you're never gonna get at home. Right. So it's one of those things that you have to see to sort of appreciate. But for those people out there who are not familiar with Barco Escape, explain a little bit about what that is, and why it's So intends as a film, as a move goer to see it. So, you're right. The foot print is relatively small. It's a new format. So, those a generation from now we'll be telling our kids and grandkids Remember when there were just, 30 or 40 theaters around the world that you could see this this in, before it became the thing, right? And, so that's where we are now. Which is kind of a romantic time to be involved in something new and exciting. But in terms of what it is, what you will see when you go to a movie theater. So it's a three screen experience, instead of a one screen experience. Okay. You're of course familiar with going to the movies, and the movies essentially from, when movies have been created up until now, 100 years, have basically been, something like this, some geometric form, whether it was a square, rectangle. A box in front of my face. Or a really big box in front of your face. Sure. Which are very exotic and great. And IMAX is a [INAUDIBLE] Barco does all the underlying technology for, our next projection. And, so we're a big fan of that, and collaborate with them a lot. This is something even more different, and more special than that, for an out of home experience. So, instead of the movie just being in front of you, it actually surrounds your periphery, and we bring you into Certain scenes of the movie when it's appropriate to really take advantage of this lets go all the way and not just be watching the screen but actually kinda inside the experience. So the films actually have to be shot with this in mind, right? Not necessarily in the case of Star Trek it actually because it's Such as CGI, VFX heavy movie. There's some augmented stuff with cameras, but most of the material is actually created in post-production with all of the space battle scenes and all of the epic action scenes and the stuff that you know. So all the things you expect when you've seen a regular screening of the movie, imagine all of those key moments When it's not just this, it's this all around. Is this something that later on can be then applied into a VR environment? Yes. So that you can then be looking around you later on at home? Yes. In fact it's very often refered to, Barco Escape is very often refered to in the trade, now that we have a trade for this stuff, as bricks and mortar VR. We know that people like to socialize. We know that people like this, they like real connection, they like to sit with their popcorn and their candy and enjoy the experience. And VR is a somewhat isolating experience although we're working on Social as well. Standing that right, of course. So that's a bit of a telling you one story, but there's actually another story there, too, where be kinda very social thing. Sure. Part of my Facebook would be interesting how to be all around as a technology. Sure. But within a theater environment, This is sort of the most immersive, most VR-like experience. And we know that with modern audiences, once you get a taste for something that, what we call breaks out of the rectangle, whether that's something you're going to put on your face, or some sort of glassware, or some sort of theme park-style experience You want more of that. You say I want something that separates from the home experience. I can get really good big screen at home. Yeah. I want something different. I want literally something that's more like I went to a theme park but I can go every Friday night, every Saturday afternoon, every Sunday morning with my family and don't have to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars to get on a plane and go to Orlando or Los Angeles or far away. But go to my local multiplex and have this kind of immersive theme park style experience in a movie. It's interesting that you mention that because I think that's one of the things the movie industry has struggled with a little bit historically as television has gotten bigger and cheaper and higher def, and we have seen more and more streaming content come into homes. People go, well why should I go to the movies? That's correct. Why, I can get that on my 70 inch TV that I bought at Best Buy last week for $2,000. And I think it's really interesting that you guys are always looking for the what's next of bringing people into the theater, not only as like you said, a social experience, cuz that's always when I like to go see movies. Where You go in on opening weekend and people are cheering and, I mean, they're just having a great time. People who are really into that movie are there to see it. Yeah, it's the buzz, right, yeah. It's the buzz. You get to experience that, the highs and lows of, you know, with everybody else. A very collective social experience. Really interesting. But you're also kind of now having to not only give movie goers that experience but also the visual experience to go with it and that make people say hey I want to come back to this or I want to do this more often because it's not something I can get at my house. I know that going to see a Chris Nolan movie in Imax There are those moments where Yeah, it expands up. Where you fall into the screen. Is that kind of the same experience here, where there are certain scenes that will just envelope you? Yes. Similar, but way more intense than just going from here to here. Because here we're just expanding the square or expanding the rectangle. Which, by the way, I love and it's part of the inspiration. Sure. There's nothing wrong about all these all experiences. It's just instead of expanding vertically, you're expanding this way. We go whoosh, all around you. It's essentially a 180 view all around. There was a moment at Comic Con a few years ago, where that was done in hall H, is that similar? Similar. And they're doing that again, you're gonna see some stuff around movies. Because, in areas other than a movie theater, other than a multiplex, where you can expand that vision, and you have the budget to expand that vision, like a theme park, like a big convention like Comic Con, This happens. Big trade shows do this all the time. Like if you go to the E3 gaming show. You'll see they'll setup- That big 360 rig. They'll setup a whole bunch of [UNKNOWN] projectors and they'll do this kind of thing. Sure. Our mission was to take that to everybody. So not just people that work in the industry. Or if you're lucky enough to go to Comicon and be in [UNKNOWN] and weight eight hours. Right. To do that experience, right, which- And if you're lucky. Unbelievable, right. Yeah. I'm lucky to be working in the industry and I can Go and do that stuff, and I'm just, I am so impressed with those people that are so committed to the entertainment. Those are our core customers that wanna see Barco escape. They don't want a normal experience, they want a special experience, right? They want it, to see it the best possible way, in the most fun environment. And what we're doing, is Expanding that footprint to every city around the world is the plan. Yeah. We have a little over 30 theaters now for Barco Escape worldwide. Okay. So essentially what I like to say is if you're a superfan, you can get likely anywhere in the United States now, you can get on a less than an hour flight and find a Barco Escape, or likely drive Less than an hour to a couple of hours, which people will easily do. If you live in any major population area give or take you're going to find one within easy striking distance. We have two in L.A., we have a couple up in the Bay area in northern California, we have one in Palm Springs area. We have a bunch in Texas. We have one in Minnesota, we have, and and, all over the US. If you go to a website called Ready2Escape. So Ready, the number 2, escape. Or just Google [INAUDIBLE] Escape. It'll give you some- It'll give you a listing and then you can click and go to your local theater and buy tickets and it will tell you which ones, the regular version, the IMAX version, the big screen digital version, and then the [INAUDIBLE] version Is the end goal to have the entire film shot like this? It's one of the goals. So we're What do you think it works better as shorter moments? I think it's project to project, just like any other sort of creative entity, there's no one right way to skin a cat, there's no one right approach to it. Sure. So, with Star Trek, with a little over 20 minutes, those key battle action scenes, which totally lend themselves, and Trying not to give anything away. But you know the big climax scene in the- I do. Movie? What happens there? Yes. So imagine that visual. Inside it, yeah. It's just like, we were doing our final QC, what's called, QC, quality control screens last night at 3:00 in the morning Cuz these things are coming in hot. Finishing up the last day with the team from Bad Robot, and it's just insane. When that music kicks in, I imagine if it's all around you, it's got to be pretty [INAUDIBLE]. Right. At 3:45 a.m. last night, I'm sitting there going, this is the best [INAUDIBLE] There's only five of us in the theater. You're like, I'm up at 3:45 in the morning. A bunch of technicians and a producer. This is worth it. Yeah. That's awesome. If you could retcon any movie into Barco Escape, what would you do? Well we're working with Jerry Bruckheimer, and we've talked redoing Top Gun in Escape- My God, that would be awesome. We've been talking to Michael Bay, we've been talking to a lot of really big A level Well, filmmakers do hang all into the theater, they've all seen stuff, all the major studios are interested. You know, because they're exploring. That's so immersive, yeah, and the other thing is, yeah, as you said, I mean, everyone's looking for that next thing, and it's really interesting to see Sort of Barco taking the lead in terms of saying hey guys we have got this lock down. We're experimenting on everything and we feel this is the way forward. This is the really cool thing that people want. And- Sorry. We would tell you that we're not the ones that know all the answers to any of this, right? It's a creative process. We take in lockstep, and hopefully we fall one-half a step behind the creators. Behind the people at Bad Robot in this case. Behind the people at Fox in other cases. Where we want to make sure that the technology drives the story, not the other way around. Sorry, the story drive the technology, not the technology driving the sure. Sure. And that's really, really important, and when you see Star Trek you will see how that works. The other thing that's really critical I think is that we're taking this and putting it in normal movie theaters all around the world. So there'll be 100 by year's end, and then we move to thousands in a couple of years. And it's just one of those formats that you're like, this is the movie we're gonna go see. Right. We're working as you were asking about production and stuff. We're working on two new movies now. One that's shooting in South Africa called 24 Hours to Live with Ethan Hawke in it, and it's a big movie, they're shooting big action scenes. I had a movie up in Canada, called Recall. There's a bunch of cinemas in Canada with cineplex theaters and imagine theaters. So Canada's also got there share of- [CROSSTALK] All those different sort of experience, yeah totally. So, we're all over. The footprints quite large. I can't wait to see it. In person myself. It sounds really, really cool. I get to go see this weekend. [CROSSTALK] Get to go see it in [UNKNOWN] I'm very excited, I can't wait Yeah. Ted Sillouetes, everybody. Thank you so much for being here. My pleasure, thank you. You already said, what's the website again for the escape? Ready to escape. Ready to escape, with a number 2. Or just google barcode escape. You'll find it. And likely, you're within Striking distance of getting to one of these theaters now. And for the next couple years are up, there'll be one in every neighborhood. There'll be more. There'll be more you guys. So, that is it for our interview, thank you so much << My pleasure. for stopping by. Thanks for having me. And we'll seen you our resumes for those [UNKNOWN] futurist jobs. Sounds good. We'll be right back guys with more Tomorrow Daily, so stick around. [MUSIC] Welcome back to the show everybody. Ted is a great guy. Yeah and I'm very excited to hear your Your experience when you go get to see Star Trek Beyond with that technology, it's cool. I'm more than excited to see that. I've never experienced a movie like that, so I'm really looking forward to it. And I know we were talking about the Dark Knight and IMAX going vertically and stuff, I'm really I really loved that, so I'm wondering how much more I'm gonna really like this. Yeah. I'm excited. Okay, so it is time to talk about a crowd fund, which means, as always, it is time for Back It or Hack It. [MUSIC] Jeff, in your wildest. VR dream. Yeah, I have- Which you are somewhat of a VR expert. You're a guru at this point. I'm definitely an evangelist, if nothing else. Yeah, I would call you a VR guru. All right, I'll take it. I'd call you a guru. Would you want an experience where you could, for an hour Go to outer space. Yes. Walk amongst the stars. Yes. And listen to an orchestra. [SOUND] That last bit I was not anticipating. Maybe I was left field [UNKNOWN] like a left turn. But I like walking in the stars and having some sweet tunes. All right. Hook me up, hook me up. This name is so close to your name that I thought it was appropriate. This is Hubble Cantata. Hubble Cantata. And you can kind of think about, okay, well, like, I kind of get the ide where that's going, if you're into music and you're familiar with cantos and things like that. Yes. Mm-hm. So this is a live virtual reality performance that incorporates many of hovel telescopes, beautiful photos that we see, the high resolution photos we see on NASA's website which are all free to use. So they've taken this These photos, and they have created a 3-D universe in which you can wander about. Wow. Which is pretty neat. You know, it reminds me almost like a, sounds almost like a virtual reality Fantasia. My. Yes, it kind of reminds me of that too, and when you see the video, we'll show you guys the [UNKNOWN], you can sort of see the sort of dimensions and the layers that they've, they've put a lot of work into this, they've put a lot of work into this. Yeah. So, here's what they wanna do. This is, they're calling it quote, the first multi dimensional view into space pared with a live performance. Hm. So, there you go. I don't understand the idea of live performance like it's. It will be live, they're gonna do it live. It's like tune in on Tuesday at seven. On August six, so coming up very quickly as part of the brick celebrate Brooklyn festival at prospect [UNKNOWN] they're going to premier hubble cantata for about six thousand people The, it'll be the first free live event to fuse a major musical performance, this is from their Kickstarter, 20 piece ensemble, a 100 person choir, and two mech, Met Opera stars. They're going to have opera singers there, with a virtual reality experience. With a 360 degree sound installation. Wow. You are literally going to be immersed in this. So this is not something I do from my home? So they're gonna do this live so that 6,000 people are gonna have this personal encounter at the thing. And then they wanna release it. I believe. That's cool. They want to release it later. So they're like you should totally check this out, and we plan to release after the premier. We're gonna release it in an app. Hm. It's gonna be called A Fist Full of Stars. You can experience the cosmos. They're like very big fans of the hubble telescope. I love this. It's really cool like I love how they're doing this. This is awesome. It seems like an odd thing to kick start. It's sort of like you have to kick starter it for other people to experience it. For the live event but then also they're gonna build that app so it's like you're sort of investing in the app and it's really cool cuz At that event, they're gonna pass out Google Cardboard for everybody. Neat. And then you're just gonna be able to drop your phone in and use it right away. Everybody will be able to hold up their Cardboard. There's already been a bunch of live VR events. Reggie Watts hosted something. Stand up comedy. He did a whole stand up set. Exactly. This idea of tuning into something live in VR that only exists in a VR environment, I think is really catching on. Yeah. And it's just becoming something. I think so. And this is a really interesting facet of virtual reality and even, I would say to some extent, augmented reality to know that At some point there are going to be experiences you could only get one time. And I think it increases the value of those events, and also the interest in those events. Because when you know it's not on demand. You're either gonna make time for it or you won't. I tell you, the number of times I've been inside a virtual environment and just in awe of what I'm seeing, to do that on a galactic scale with real footage from the Hubble Telescope, with This beautiful, sort of uplifting, emotional, powerful music. Orchestral experience. Yeah, because if you listen to opera singers at their best it moves you. There's nothing like it. It truly moves you. It's really cool. It's a neat idea. So they want 35 grand. Which is not a terribly insane goal. No. Like, one of the lower [UNKNOWN] we've seen. Yeah, I think it's a tricky thing for people. You sort of have to donate it to see it happen. You want the idea of this happening rather than getting something out of it. Yeah, and so they want 35,000. They have about 10 percent of that right now. So they've got 22 days left Though. This is neat. And they're saying, basically, like if you donate 25 bucks, you get to download the digital download of the music. And you get wallpaper downloads of the Hubble imagery. And then, so they'll give you credit. There's like a whole bunch of stuff that you can donate to make this happen. Pretty neat. I hope it happens. I do too. To see this happening, eventually see an app, if they make that. Yeah, [INAUDIBLE] pretty good stuff. So that is it for Back It Or Hack It. So now we just talk about what we are into, and this is appropriately called Into It. [MUSIC] Okay, so I feel like I should go first because it's happening. It's literally happening right now. What are you into? Comic Con, guys. It's all about Comic Con. Comic Con, is Comic Con, is Comic Con, [UNKNOWN]. Guess what? I'm not going. Yeah, me neither. I'm super into it but I'm not going. I've gone for many years in a row. And I'm not going this year I know, me too Yeah. And it's weird. I am excited though because Comecon HQ is doing live streams from all the big panels Yeah So I feel like I'll be able to kind of be there? Which is good Yeah But there's gonna be so many good panels this year. You got Suicide Squad coming this year. Marvel is coming with Dr. Strange, Whoa and guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Yes, indeed We're gonna see obviously on the tv side, Game of Thrones Walking Dead, I mean those are gonna be really huge, great panels. And then also there's all kinds of installations and things going on like our friend at Screen Junkies are doing a whole thing, they have a whole setup, they're gonna be doing interviews and all this stuff, I I do want to discuss like, Comic-Con as an event. I'm really into Comic-Con, but I find myself wanting to go there less and less every year because it has become such a behemoth. Do you think it needs to be split into different things? Well you know, they talked for a long time about moving it up to Los Angeles just because there's more room. There's more space. Yeah. And more hotels, it's just If you have never gone through buying a Comic Con ticket, it is... It's a nightmare wrapped in a Hellscape. Yeah. But! There's something about San Diego that infused with Comic-- The Gaslamp. Yeah it's... It is Comic Con. So, I would be sort of against that idea. Yeah. But, by the same token, I definitely relate to what you're saying, and as somebody who went when I was a little kid, and has gone many many years, and watched it turn into this massive Overwhelming. So huge. There was a time when you could sort of get there and look at the schedule and go, I want to see that, and that, and that. And you'll hit all the things. Yeah. Now, you can pick one and stand in line for that one thing. You pick one Hall H panel, that's all you get And it's like- A hallway. You either take that- If you can get into Hall H, and that's a big if. You can stay in Hall H. You can stay all day, that's what we used to do. Go early. Go early. But most of the time there's things, you don't want to spend all day inside one place. Right. Or even if you do wanna spend all day inside one place, you have to get up and stand in line at like two o'clock in the morning. It's really rough. It's The insanity of the number of people that are there and what's going on. Now, that being said, it's a lot of fun to just wander around see all the cosplay and watch the show floor. I know. That's my favorite part. It's the cosplay. And I guess to see a lot of my friends that don't live in LA. Yeah. There's some of the cast of Archer and stuff like that. Those are people I love seeing but I can't bring myself to go down there. It's so many people and so much and so overwhelming because before, okay so Before, Comic-Con used to be just the convention center. Yeah. And then it started, like a terrible blob. It started creeping into the. Yeah. The gas lamp district. And now it takes up like four blocks of the gas lamp. Yeah, and the. And like, six blocks wide. Plus Petco. The stadium the Padres play at Petco. Plus the stadium, Petco Park. Crazy. There's stuff happening in there. I mean, you. The problem. You would need a four day pass just to see half the stuff. The problem in my view with all of this is that it just makes it really hard to take kids. Yeah. And I grew up going to comic book conventions. And you're about to pushing a stroller. It's true. And I couldn't imagine taking a young kid to Comic Con. It is Very overwhelming. It really is built for adults, and I think that's a shame because These properties should be open and accessible to kids. A lot of people that take kids, I just can't imagine doing it. It just seems so overwhelming for a kid. And kinda dangerous and a little scary. And it's, there's such a throng of people all pushing and shoving it's- That's true. But I mean, I'm still excited about it. I still am dying to see what everybody brings cuz obviously it's like nerd Christmas. Everybody gets so excited about it. So I'm really looking forward to it I'm sad I won't be there, but I'm going to be watching Indeed. on Comic Con HQ all day. I'm not watching it right now, I should be. I want to watch it right now. What are you into? You called me the VR guru. You are. So I feel like I got to step up. And huge, huge week for VR this last week. A massive release. A game called Raw Data What's put out on the five, and it is only an early access, it's not complete yet. It has a lot of functionality to turned off. But it is already I think a killer app for buying. You think it is a seller? Absolutely. And when it has all the stuff kind of going on in it, people are going to- It already was the first VR game to crack the steam top 10. So, you know, and people are digging it already. It's $30, I think right now, for early access. What's the replay value on this? Or how, like, how do you play? It's a wave shooter, so you're in different environments and waves of robots are coming at you. There's drone robots that fly. There's little crawly robots. You got to get those robots. There's automatons that you have to shoot You shoot, well there's two classes right now, they're gonna have more. One is Pistol Guy that you can level up and get interesting, cool new perks. And the other is the Cyber Ninja, which is basically a Jedi. Genji, Genji from Overwatch. You get, you get a sword that can reflect laser beams back at them. This is literally Genji from Overwatch. Yeah, you can throw it and it comes back to your hand. He can't throw the sword but he [INAUDIBLE] You have a jumping attack Which they've manage to figure out a way to do that and not make you nauseated, it's amazing but the best part of this game, best part of this game is that it now supports over the internet multiplayer, so me and my vibe and my friend in his vibe, both on our unique homes Exist in the same virtual space. Can do virtual high-fives, which we will a lot. Totally. Of course. And are taking on these waves of robots at the same time, talking to each other, playing different classes, going [CROSS-TALK]. Ugh! It is a blast and totally I think it looks great, it looks like a real high quality you know, worth triple A game. You're selling me on all your enthusiasm here. I really feel strongly. This is something you can put someone in right away that is already a hard core gamer and they go ' I see why VR is special.' Love that, love that It's called Raw Data it's from Servios. It's on Steam right now. Early Access. It is a reason to own a vive in my opinion. All right. I like that. I'm gonna have to look into that. So fun. You wanna check out our phonetographer of the day? Let's do it. Okay. [MUSIC] [SOUND] Our phonetographer of the day today is Antonio, who sent in this picture that he took with his iPhone 6+, and he wrote in a very nice email and said, first of all, my name is Antonio. I'm 13. I'm from Portugal. I've been watching Tomorrow Daily since it's first few episodes and I really like the show. I've also been listening to Jeff and Anthony Carboni's We Have Concerns podcast which I like a lot. Yay. You're all doing great work. I like this Antonio fella. Me too. Let's get to the main subject, my picture. The photo I'm attaching with this email is of my pet Corona Gloster canary bird, Pecka. Inspired by the Portuguese name for Dale from Disney's Chip and Dale. As it all Corona Gloster Canary bird, he has a crest. In the photo, he had dipped his head too deep into his water container getting his crest wet and ended up with a punk rock haircut. Once I heard July's theme was pets, I immediately thought that my bird's punk haircut would be a nice candidate. Photo was taken with an iPhone 6 Plus. Remember when Ashley got one too, same color and capacity as mine. You still have it, and you have full permission to use it on the show. Be good, humans! Antonio. I don't have my 6 Plus cuz I upgraded to a 6S, but it's the exact same phone. [LAUGH] So it's space gray and 64 GB. I love that picture. Punk rock bird. I would never have known the name of the bird, but that's cool. Gecko! I love it. I mean, the, The type of bird? Yeah. I'm not a bird watcher, so no. But a really awesome looking bird.>>What an awesome picture, thanks for sending that in. Everybody loves a punk rock bird. [LAUGHTER] Punk rock bird! If you want to send your picture to our show and be our next phonetographer, send it to TOMORROW@ CNET.COM. Yes, our theme this month is pets. You have one week left to send in your great pet pictures. And then we'll have another theme that we will probably announce Next week, maybe, I don't know, there's a very special theme next month. So maybe we will, maybe we won't. Get excite. I don't know, just think about it. You gotta do four things though when you send in your picture. First of all, you need to tell us how to pronounce your name. Yep. If there is any chance we could mispronounce it. Which is a good chance. There's a good chance. Give us permission to use it on the show, because legal would like that. Yeah. Tell us a story about your picture. We love story. And in that story, tell us what device you took your picture on. Indeed. All those things and you've got a great chance of landing on the show, so. Like Antonio. Thanks Antonio. Thanks for the shout out And thanks [UNKNOWN], I would say something to you in bird but I can barely whistle. [WHISTLE] Yeah, there you go. My god that's so offensive, don't say that out loud. I'm sorry. That is it for the show this week. We will be back on Monday with a brand new, or I will be back on Monday with a brand new [UNKNOWN]. Jeff will be out of town for a few days. We'll be back on Monday with a brand new docket of science fact meeting science fiction and then we're going to talk about it. So, until next time. Be a good human. Bye guys. [MUSIC]