The 404 Show 1,580: Ocho, bad Discovery Channel ideas, Samsung rap, tricycles are backToday Jeff and Iyaz discuss Mark Cuban's new social video sharing network, awful Discovery Channel show ideas, a strange Samsung rap and how tricycles are making a comeback. Brooklyn will love this.
I keep these Verizon text messages. Or like notifications. And the headline is always, usage overage alert. Okay? So you get that, and, and what's your first thing? Like, what do you think first? That you're gonna get charged something. Right. You see that, and you're like, man, overage alert. What else could it mean? No. It don't mean that. It means I've only done 80% of my allotment. And, and inside the email, or the text, or whatever it is, the link to add more minutes. Mm-hm. Spend more money that you don't need. It goes, hey, Jeff, you're 80% through your voice minutes. For your cycle ending November 12th. Guess what today is? November 12th.>> Guess what I'm not going to use 20% of in just, you know 12 more hours? Wouldn't you want to try though? At this point,just to **** them. Use up the whole thing? That is not screwing them. There's got to be a better way. The better way is calling them up and like getting them to convince me. To add more minutes to my plan. Recording it and trying to do Ryan Block thing. You can probably do that. I think it's a waste of your time. Totally. Yeah. Waste of my time, man. So I know. I just, I just leave me, and I know it's just like a robot spitting that out, but just lay off, man. Just leave me alone. It's just gonna lead to you ignoring the real ones at some point. Right. Cuz then you that's how they're gonna get you. Right. So I want- So you're over it. That, like, hey- You're really over. Ridiculous. Is,. I've, I've yet to see one of those. All right. Well, you don't like to live dangerously, like I do. Not yet. Constantly living on the edge and teetering. I'm going to start, I'm going to start streaming stuff just to see this overage warning. It is weird, though, cuz I've never even come close. And I wonder, I don't really like know who, if I was talking to, I don't, I don't get it. It's all like voice minutes. I have, I only have like 400. You were using up voice minutes? That's the overage they were talking about? Not data? No, no. Nowhere near [UNKNOWN] Who the hell cares about that? I. How did you even do that? How's is it not even free? Well, you. How is voice just not free? You were clearly on hold with something for a long time. No way, dude. I don't. You'd have to. I don't stand for that. I don't wait. I don't do that. I'll wait. You don't yammer. What are doing on the phone app? I know. Nobody uses a phone app. I know. Like you guys like look around. There's actually a payphone by where I live and it's just, it's just this freakish thing. It's just like homeless people pee and poop in it. Well it's not a full. But they still could. You wanna, you wanna see how you can do that? I'll show you. the, a, my point, the big take away is that voice minutes should be free. Like you should have unlimited voice no matter what, free. And because all people care about is data, **** the voice, no one cares. You just make calls on data. Yeah. [CROSSTALK] I guess, I don't know. All right. I guess I'm the only one who wants to complain about that today. Thanks for making that an issue. Your welcome. [LAUGH] It's Wednesday, November 12th. 404 time. Let's start the show. [MUSIC] Like shut up Verizon, shut up! Leave me alone. If you, you read in the news on Verizon, AT&T right now you'd be saying that a lot louder with a lot more swears. Just shut up! How about that? A, AT&T I want to smack with a brick in the head. Cool. Welcome to the 404 Show. I'm Jeff Bakalar joined by Iyaz Akhtar. Hello. Ariel Nunez over there on the board. Howdy. Wearing glasses. Glasses today. Love it. Looking smart. Looking smart, feeling smart. Feeling very smart. But looking good. Oh, thanks you. Why do you wanna hit AT&T in the face with a brick? Oh, they stopped rolling out fiber until the whole net, net, the net neutrality stuff is sussed out. So instead of giving like, awesome speeds to these different places like, we're just gonna stop right now, while this is going on. Well, Until this is settled. Which is I'm, I'm, I'm not defending them. Mm-hm. But I, I guess like, it does make sense to sort of. Stop doing something like that until this, you know blows over so they know maybe they're, how to like set up their infrastructure moving forward. Set up the infrastructure, at worst you sell it off or lease it. It's not that big a deal other than basically a giant FU to every consumer. Who would like, like, super fast speeds at home? Like, why do you have to move to Kansas where Google is, to get fast speeds at a reasonable price? Nobody has to move to Kansas. I want that to be known. I wouldn't move to Kansas for the internet. I'm getting 50 down 50 up here, that's cool. Where are you getting 50 up? Verizon. The company I hate. Different arm of Verizon. They're giving me good internet, they just won't leave me alone about text messaging, voice over. Yeah. alright. I need a brick. Whats up? You need a brick to smack At&t in the face with? Mm-hm We got, we got news. Oh, you know what we got to do man, before we get going in to stories. What's that? No I have no idea. We gotta pick these Back to the Future winners. This. > right now? This is our bed. No not right now but this is our bed. I'm gonna give it can I give you that task? You just tell me what I gotta do? Okay so remember the whole. The hashtag. Contest yeah just you gotta pick four winners. That's all I gotta do? That's it, we will talk about it maybe this is like a conversation not on the show, for not you know. It's already over right though the whole pre period. Yay [INAUDIBLE] just ended and there's like a timeline that only the tweets are good for. So you gotta. Do we have like a log of this somewhere? Yeah dude its all been, you know, matriculated Alright sounds like fun, I think I got some message already I had to pick one So so what so what I'm, so what that's leading to. Go ahead, and like Dr. Evil over here. [INAUDIBLE] What that's leading to is we'll announce the winners on Friday and then, I'll ship them out Friday as well. That's magnificent. These are the awesome, USB, Back to the Future flux capacitors, the [INAUDIBLE] car. Correct. Correct. Four people. And I have all the power. You have all the power. Right? 1.21 jigawatts. That's what it feels like. That's a lot of power. That's what it feels like. You have the power of a lightning bolt. And then, and then next Monday, if the legal people get it turned around quick enough, we can start actually having people enter the freaking Call of Duty bundle, which is just taking. That's actually what we're gonna call it, right? The freaking Call of Duty bundle. Yeah. [CROSSTALK] Call of Duty bundle, it's about freaking time. We gotta get that as a vanity URL. Sweetasstime.cnet.com. Apparently, we can get any. Vanity URL we want. We, okay, it's anything. it's awesome. It's great. All right. Let's let's get into the news. Not a whole lot of news. There's there's like a new video streaming service that we didn't talk about it at all. What video streaming service? Dave, you've heard about it? So we talk, the only reason I bring it up. It popped in my head cuz of Mark Cuban. You heard of Ocho? Oh, right Ocho. Right, it's, it's a, it's like a couch or like Instagram for video, right? That's eight seconds of video? Right. Right, right, right. I don't think that's a video service. I'm like, yeah. It's a video like, social service crap. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I only looked at it for a second. Have you looked checked it out at all? No. Of course not. I mean, why would I bother with this. Like, I mean, okay, couch didn't take off. Yeah, but I, see, I think this has a better chance though. Over Vine? That's six seconds. Yeah, because Vine is super produced. Like everyone's making movies with that. It is now. Right, cuz there's like stop motion animation. Right. Everyone who takes a Vine has like been working on their Vine all day. It's like all year, one Vine, six seconds. Right. So this ocho is suppose to what, not produce? This supposed to be just like. Well, so, if you don't know, ocho is eight in Spanish. Espanol. So it's eight second video. And you can film more than eight seconds. And Ocho the Ocho will speed it up and have it fit in that eight second sort of time table. Keep audio? Keeps audio and you can do audio commentary over it. You can do filters. You can do and then you can do this thing where like you follow other people. I'm not done, I'm not done. I can still react to how dumb this is. But go ahead. It's not dumb because it's cool that you can just follow other ochers? Ochers. Ochoans. Ochoans. Obviously, Ochoans. And just, and like, stream their videos, like, all, you know, loop them. Right? So, let's say I subscribe to 40 people on, Ocho, I can enter like the, the, you know, the laid back mode, or whatever the hell they're going to call it. And you just sit there and watch everyone sing, over and over again. It's kinda like TV. Which is like, eight, with eight second cuts that have nothing to do with each other. That's, that's like channel flipping, right? No, it's like MTV now. I guess. RIght. I have not looked at MTV. Yeah, I'm not, I'm obviously not into this. Okay. YOu could tell. I just wanted to get it out there, it is for IOS now and Android is coming soon, I think it is a better idea than Vine, because Vine turned into this like, annoying, hipster sort of, 6 second, you know, I don't know, you have to like produce everything and make it be like some sort of trick photography. And that is pretty much what happened to Twitter, right? Somebody figured out, what is the best usage for this, I don't know what Ocho is going to turn into, but. That just seems like it almost sounds like sitting at somebody's home and watching like a slide show. Hey here's a voiceover of this eight second video I did. It's like I, I have no interest in this. Oh, oh yeah. I don't have an opinion on it yet haven't check it out. Anyway. We want you to check it out and tell us what you think. Okay. Let's get to the news we have prepared. Sorry I threw you a curveball there. There's a story about Discovery Channel. What what did Discovery discover? Okay, well there is this bizarre special that they are going to run on the seventh of December. It's called eaten alive. There's a guy whose name is Paul Rosalie. And his, his one desire is to be eaten alive by an Anaconda. Okay? Wow. And die? No. He's going to be wearing a special snake, a special suit that allows him not to die while being ingested. Apparently he's going to be wearing some kind of like pig's blood or something, to make him very attractive. Tasty. Right. So. To make him tastier than. He's going to be laying out and hoping the Anaconda just, you know, just. Takes him in whole. And then, I mean I can't imagine the anaconda's gonna like, survive this ordeal. Yeah. That's where the protestors come in. At change.org they're freaking out. They're like, this is ridiculous. This Not to mention this is the dumbest **** I've ever heard. And Paul Rosolie should just be put in jail now, before he does something real bad. No, he's already done this. It's been shot. Oh, cool. Okay, it's already happened. Cool. Oh, good for you. The thing is gonna be, it's gonna be, it's gonna air on the 7th. And here is the petition that changed that order, I think it's got 28,000 supporters, and they want to have the airing of Eaten Alive stopped, they want to boycott to the Discovery Channel. It's got a lot of people going nuts, but in the actual petition. In bold it, it why taking issue with the event. Yeah. It once again reinforces the negative stereotypes of snakes. Okay. Which one would think. Okay. Would be the opposite of a discovery should be trying to do. Who the hell's doing pr for snakes? Like why is somebody taking throne and being like I gotta stick up for snakes. I just think this is just a stupid TV show. It's stupid on so many levels. Number one, you know, first off what the F Discovery Channel, like when did you become this like ridiculous tabloidy nonsensical irrelevant channel? Between your shark documentaries about. That aren't even documentaries. That aren't even doc, they're about Megalodon, sharks that have been gone from this earth for about three million years. A bunch of **** running this network. At this point, it seems that way. And now this guy, this Paul Rosalie, I'm gonna get decapitated and survive. Shut up. Right? I, I don't know. Dude, get some bigger dreams. Dream bigger. I could see this dumb idea coming out in a brainstorming meeting, right? You got a bunch of people sitting around, you're like, hey, what do you wanna do? I wanna get eaten by an anaconda. It's, it's this next part that I have trouble with. That's somebody in the room was like, that's a good idea. We- The fact that it got green-lit. We should actually shoot this. Oh, how are we gonna make this happen? I'm gonna need a special suit. Man, I'm gonna Go-Pro inside the anaconda. We're gonna design a suit for this. This isn't like a guy who survives bear attacks, or a guy wearing a suit that protects him for dogs. This is a guy who intentionally wants to be eaten by an, anaconda. Makes me so mad. Which only happens in movies. Like what- Makes me so mad. Beatlejuice. It happened in Harry Potter. It's happened in- Anaconda. Anaconda, which I haven't watched. It's happened in nightmare on Elm Street, four I think. Yeah. Street Warriors. But- Ice Cube is in Anaconda. [LAUGH] Okay. [LAUGH] I love the trivia. And Jennifer Lopez. Why on earth did somebody say this is okay. And not jus that, but we have this thing of there's a protest. The protest is, they, they do have a good spot like later on in the, in the. And the actual petition. No matter how it ends this is animal cruelty from start to finish so. [CROSSTALK] Totally. Support me. Totally. He could have led with that. Not just it's bad PR for snakes. [CROSSTALK] Yeah. They should have. They should have been like on the, the. He seemingly started it like on behalf of the snake community. Which is not how you, you should be pitching this. It should be like. Hey, it doesn't sound like the anaconda is gonna come out the other end okay. How does he get out, without killing the thing? How, what are they gonna do? Like, in my head, I'm like. Okay, so this, this guy is inside the anaconda, and then you just like nip the tips, and just get him out. [LAUGH] You know? He's basically in this tube. Like, just chop off the ends. [CROSSTALK] Just shake them out. Okay, that's [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGH] You know, like, like you would, you know, like a bag in a product. You're just like, get out of there. Get out of there, human. So, it's. [LAUGH] So, it's. [INAUDIBLE] It's to keep them in the tube of the snake, the rest of the body. Chop off its freaking tail, chop off its head. Kind of like, like, like a pillowcase. It's kind of like. It keeps trying to go. Right. And, and, like a pillowcase. It's just like shimmy the guy out of there. Come on, come on, get out of there. Yeah, I. Actually no he would deserve that. How? To get out of it. Maybe they don't need to kill the anaconda to do that. Just hold the anaconda upside down and just see if the guy will come out. Because apparently he's supposed to go in head first too. So. [CROSSTALK] How does that work? Special suit. The oxygen in the suit. Yep. Gotta be part of the suit, or he'll get killed. I guess the face gotta breathe too, right? The idea that. You share that? Well, it's not like it's a fast process. Oh, it's so. It's going to take a freaking while for this thing to open the jaw. There should be a [UNKNOWN] wipe dissolve. Right, Ariel? The clock wipes. [LAUGH] This I'll watch on Ocho. There you go. Eight seconds, you want to have eight seconds of voice over. And I don't recommend anybody actually do this. Don't do this on Ocho. But that's, is this going to be a show? Is it mean in saying I'm upset he survived? Hm. No, I don't want him to die, that's terrible. No, I don't think it's mean. I think it's, I think because of this guy's, I'm gonna, I'm gonna say jackassery. That's what I'm gonna say this is. That's schmuckery? Schmuckery? Sure. Well it's just such a stupid idea. Cause like this is his tweet: if you know me I would never hurt a living thing. But you will have to watch Eaten Alive to see how it goes down. I am just going to force this anaconda to regurgitate me. Get out of here. The worst thing, is if this is successful, you know it is going to have a sequel. He is like, if you know me, you know how I always have animals throw me right up. You know that. You know how I roll. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] You what an ****. I wouldn't hurt a animal I just want it to swallow me. Yeah. [LAUGH] Normal. You saw what I did when that hippo ate me. [LAUGH] [LAUGH] Yeah. I got out real gingerly like. You saw what I did. We're friends now. There's the fake Paul Rosely a, account waiting to happen. Right. It's like you saw what happened when I got, when it was, I, I stuffed myself into that pigeon. I was tiny at the time. I shrunk myself down after figuring this out. I was in the- That is the best tweet ever. He leads off like, if you know me. [LAUGH] Paul Rosely. Thank God I don't know you. We're all better for not knowing that dude. Could you imagine what other stupid **** ideas he has? You know me, when that tiger pulled me apart. We, we wound up. You know, you know how we roll. Inside of animals. I wasn't expecting much from this story, but I think we got a lot out of it. I think so. I mean it's a salmon cannon almost, man. John Oliver will be covering this. Totally. Momentarily. okay. Let's talk about Samsung. This is a strange company, man. Absolutely strange. Strange. You know, people don't realize that they see, like the consumer facing end of it, where it's all Galaxies and gears, and all that junk. But there is a strange weird sorcerer behind that curtain. Okay, so we've got a rap video from Samsung, about corporate diversity. Now normally you'd get like stats and get you know like a really boring press release or something. But Samsung decided to actually do a video, are you going to play the music Jeff? Yeah, I'm going to play some of this music here. I'll have the video going it will be a little bit off synch. Yeah. [MUSIC] 'Kay, so. You can hear, yeah. Unfortunately. Ariel, admit this is hot. [LAUGH] Hot. [LAUGH] It says that 40% of the workforce is female. Now what's the story behind. It's just about giving stats. And this guy who did it, is a, is a rapper, what's his actual name, mad clown, he's a Korean rapper. You heard of him, Ariel? No. Mad Clown? No. Thank God. Sounds like a mad clown. [LAUGH] I mean, the lyrics are very impressive. I mean, you see in the video right now. Now it's amazing. Here we go once again. Samsung to the rescue. This is one of the weirder lines here. Okay, so 40% are women. You don't have to worry about, you don't have to worry after giving birth. Sit back, relax, no need to work. It's all taken care of, leave it to us. Family friendy, friendly company with kindergarten. That's just like a super [LAUGH] **** backwards way of saying we have maternity. Option. That's what it seemed like, but that's just an odd thing to, oh, you're a woman? Well, you know, it's okay. Sit back and relax. Cuz that's what Samson does. This is weird, man. They're releasing these sort of like, you know, HR rap videos. Man. We need a HR rap video. [INAUDIBLE] Again, again, it's all about like, that meeting. Where they're all, like all the important people are sitting down. They're like, this is how we're gonna do it. We're gonna get Mad Clown, he's a friend. Yeah, as we know. And, we're gonna have him record this, this rap video. And tell, you know, a quarter of a million people that work for this company, all about, all about the ongoing. And he is rapping in english. So. Which, I mean, where the audience is. Well, no, Samsung's got offices here. Yeah, they've got offices everywhere. So, I'm just curious, are there more raps that are in different languages elsewhere, or do they- I mean, we can only hope. For the sake of comedy, we can only hope. I'm hoping there's like a country version. There's going to be a country version, it's like, let's see, there's this rap version. There's gotta be a ska version. You know there's a ska version. A ska version. I don't get it. So, is this an internal video? Like their HR video or something like that? Yeah. No this is. No, it is. Well this is, they released it. They have a channel on YouTube called Samsung Tomorrow. Right. Oh they want us to see this. So they, yeah, they've, this is public. Or at least they didn't want to keep it public, private. It wasn't, it wasn't like somebody was like oh look at this thing. Like those Microsoft videos that got out. This was released, and it even has the tag on the top, Samsung TV Tomorrow, like. It's, what's funny, go down, go back to lyrics. If you go down to like the second to last verse. It's like a very strange, I guess they just couldn't transcribe it well? It just sort of says like, we're just letting our dreams come true, ****. It says ****. What? [LAUGH] [LAUGH] That says ****. It's like, ****, make it shine, let us smile. Well, well, ****. Well, it does actually have two captions, so I guess that's. I respect that, man. That's mad real, yo. That's mad real ****. From mad clown. Oh, mad clown, you keep it so real. Why did they, they spent money on this. Don't matter. Near, and they, they lost the money, right? Are they losing ground there. Yeah. They had a really crappy quarter. And maybe this is why. They're like, well you know, you know what? We had a bad quarter. We know what to do. We know what to do. We're gonna get Mad Clown like you mentioned. He's a friend. Or it's like they had like, all these are like, oh, do we just streamline the Galaxy line? Do we just offer two phones instead of like 30? And then Mad Clown's name's up there. You know that. It is an option. It is always an option. Maybe like he is like ultimate plan B when something goes wrong there are like mad clown come out of your box. If you are listening and you are not. You are. I have one request, and that request is to bring mad clown. To see ES 2015. And we'll have him on the 404, I promise you. [LAUGH] Love to meet Mad Clown. I'm gonna do. Okay, here's what I'll do, I'll throw in. I will try to draw this stuff as fast as they do in the video. [LAUGH] So when he's rapping, I'm gonna draw quickly up, just like this. Okay? I'll drop a stick figures, and he's gonna be rapping about the best 4k TVs. And I'm gonna like, just draw 4 ks. Yeah. It's gonna be freaking awesome. [LAUGH] We'll pay Mad Clown for his time. Not for his travel, though. His usual rate of $20 an hour. He's paid in notes, I think. Galaxy Notes only. Man, that'd be great, though, to have [UNKNOWN] crying on the stage, right? Just explain this. Like, what do they do? Hey, sir. I wonder if, is he, like, a well-known talent out there? No. And is this, like, a bad idea? Look, my hip hop barometer is, is sitting ten feet away. [LAUGH] If Ariel hasn't already moved it. Guy's nothing. He's no one. [LAUGH] Yeah, I don't know who's big outside the US, but I sure have never heard of him. Ever. Did you know him when he was just slightly angry clown? Maybe that's why, he changed his name. Ornery clown. He just used to be ornery clown. [CROSSTALK] [LAUGH] Ornery, that's a great word. I love that word. Best line, best line of the day. He seems like a mad clown. Yeah, [CROSSTALK] He sounds like a mad clown. He sounds like a freaken mad clown. All right. This is, we're gonna end things with a strange story. Tell us about the tricycle. As opposed to the really normal stories. [CROSSTALK] Yeah. We talk about. Yeah. [CROSSTALK] Yeah, this is a normal show. The Times has, New York Times has this piece about the revival of adult tricycles. Right there. Now you, you, when you say the revival, you act like there was once a renaissance. Apparently there was when it first came out in the 1800's a lot of people took this. Women took to bicycles because they didn't fall over. It was a lot easier to ride at the time. [LAUGH] Fall over, yeah. Seriously. No you're right. Eventually- It's tough to fall on a tricycle. Very tough. It, it takes a lot of freakin' work. You're gonna have to try. Yeah. You got to hit a cur er, a turn real, real hard. So Emily Stoke wrote this. She used to have a tricycle back when she was in University. Kindergarten? Oh okay. University. Okay. I thought, I thought you meant like when she had a Fisher Price- No. Tricycle like when we all had one. This is a fancy thing called a Pashley which is a British company that makes these bikes. and, oh trikes. And it was a big deal in the 1880s so she started riding this thing around. And she was wondering hey I wonder what would happen if I started riding this thing around New York? Because it seems like it's just prime for revival because apparently in Britain Williamsburg it's prime for revival. But in the UK that, there, the people are moving towards tricycles. [INAUDIBLE]. Would she makes this huge leap. I'm like why? No that's true hipsters started in London. Is that what happened? Totally. Okay. Yeah you didn't know that? No. Yeah man they just called them **** over there. I'm serious. They imported them here. Yeah we call them hipsters they call them ****. So we got pure. Oh no I'm sorry **** heads. We got pure can **** heads from the UK. That's wonderful. This says that she started riding her bike around New York, got a lot of looks,. Can anybody explain how again this works? But then, she says this. This is a quote from her article. We'd all ride tricycles if the world were better, if bike lanes were wider, and if we weren't in such a hurry. Trikes slow you down and take your mind off of other things. Yeah that philosophy aint gonna fly in Manhattan. Do you think if the bike lanes were wider? No. Even trikes? No. Definitely not. This aint gonna simply I do not believe will take off on the island of Manhattan. Perhaps in Brooklyn. You think it will work a little? Yeah. I can see. Brooklyn lends itself to this kind of malarkey. Yeah but I don't like some hipster tuff turns into mainstream at some point okay? Sure not the trike. I don't think trikes could look like I think trikes are doomed like unicycles. And I'm not making fun of tricycles they're cool whatever. I get the idea I have terrible balance. I could- Sure. I could get on this idea. Sure. This, the idea of like mountain bikes not for me. You wanna go slow, wanna have like an area where you can like put your groceries and stuff? I get it. Gotcha. But where the hell are you gonna park the thing? What are you gonna do with this? And where on Earth? It, has there ever been a person who looked cool on a tricycle? Other than the kid in The Shining? It's not about looking cool. These people don't care about looking cool. Isn't that what they're trying to do this time? Other than Watt? The Shining. The kid on the Shining. Oh, oh. He's pretty cool in this. Well, that's horror. Well, yeah. yeah, no, I'm with you, man. It's a strange, it's a strange thing. Ariel. Mr. Who Had His Bike Stolen Recently. Do you think, if you had a tricycle, an adult tricycle. Uh-huh. It would not have gotten stolen, due to the fact that it's cumbersome and ridiculous. Nobody would steal that. For sure. And it's also very identifiable. You will Yeah. Wa, you will single handedly thwart bike pilfering. That's true, you just add a third wheel on there. That's it. I don't think this would work anywhere, to be honest. Totally. Because the, the whole biker community is so like, strong on how, on bikes in general. They even hate Citi Bike. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Anything new entering their bike lane. They won't allow it. That's it. Guaranteed. No way. Scooter people and bike people probably don't get along. Probably not. No. Scooter people? Like on the Razors? Man no, what do, I see way too many grown **** adults on. I've seen adults on, I see, I usually see the, them when they're chasing like a kid who's also on this, on a Razor scooter. No, no. I haven't seen. I see, I see people commuting in. And razors, yeah? No. Yeah, dude. You've seen it [CROSSTALK] I've seen it. I haven't seen it in a while,though. But I've seen it. [CROSSTALK] I've seen it on the other coast. I've seen it a lot in San Francisco. Yeah. San Francisco is a lot by the ferry. Embrace the rage, it's real. Yeah. It's real. So what we need is [INAUDIBLE] the tricycle version of scooters. They have the, one of two in the back now. [INAUDIBLE] simply doesn't matter. No. [LAUGH] I don't see, I just her, her assumption of like, oh I'll ride tricycles [CROSSTALK] I don't know. But if there's a trike person out there who's super into it, let us know. Really, really, you want to open up that flood gate? Yeah, I do. We're going to have like. Don't you want to hear like the tricycle ambassadors? I want to see the pictures of the tricycle ambassadors. The guy with the handlebar mustache. Yeah. Can't wait for this. Yeah totally. And a scarf that goes around his face where I can't even see the handle bar mustache. What are those, what are those gigantic tricycles. The huge front wheel and the two wheels in back. What's it call- The old-timey bikes? Yeah, from like, Family Guy. I just know them as old-timey bikes Oh, you do? [LAUGH] [LAUGH] That's what you call them, old-timey bikes? I'm gonna find out what they're called right now. Penny-farthing? No. The high wheel. High wheels. That's what they are. Sick. Pull this up real quick. There we go. There's the bet, yeah. This has- Tally ho! This has, this has- You say tally ho. Yeah, we need that. Yeah. Bring that back. Yeah. No. Oh my God. It needs more wheels. Obviously. Or less wheels. Totally. You don't need a wider bike lane for that. No, you don't. Velocipedist in Sweden. How the hell do you even get on that thing? And you have to wear that outfit, too. Totally, with the hat and everything. You definitely gotta wear the hat. Otherwise it doesn't work. Yeah. That guy's my idol. That's part of the balancing of Who ever though that, that was like practical? Who was like oh my god, let's, let's take a running jump, running start Onto a pole, and hope, and I hope I don't land on the we- And hope it doesn't just lacerate our nutties. Oh god. Somebody who was not thinking clearly, obviously. And here's a, another person with a newsy-look [INAUDIBLE]. Thanks for the laugh, Wikipedia. 866-404-CNET. That's the number. You can reach out to us over email. The 404@CNET.com. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Reddit and all that junk. Back here tomorrow with a brand new show. Until then I'm Jeff Bakalar. I'm Iyaz Akhtar. I'm Ariel Nunez. Thanks for tuning in to the 404 Show. High tech, low brow. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Have a great one. [MUSIC]