The 404 1,496: Where we wrap up OS X Yosemite, iOS 8, and WWDC 2014Check out The 404's post-WWDC chat about all the new features in iOS 8 and Mac OS X Yosemite.
It's Monday, June 2nd 2014. I'm Ariel Nunez. And from our CBS Studios in New York City. Welcome to The 404. [MUSIC] What's going on everyone? Welcome to The 404 Show on this very. Lukewarm Apple announcement day. I'm Jeff Bakalar. I'm Justin Yu. So today's a different kind of show. We're gonna be covering the events that transpired today in San Francisco. Mm-hm. Which, you know, for what it's worth, I thought was actually a marginally entertaining. Two hours. [LAUGH] It depends on what you look forward to on WWDC Day. [INAUDIBLE]. In the past, it's been kinda hard to watch because you could only watch a live stream. Right. I'm sorry, a live blog. Yeah. They never streamed it on video, for some reason, directly from. San Francisco. But this year, I don't really know what the impetus was, but they decided to live stream, it so you could watch it live. Why do you think that was? I mean, they, they never do that. I, I don't think they've done that since the introduction of the first iPhone. I'm not 100% sure if that's. Totally true. I feel like they always live stream it. No. Yeah, they. They, they never do. Are you sure? Yeah, the last few announcements, I've had to watch. Like iPhone stuff? Or had the pleasure, I'm sorry, to watch. [LAUGH] CNET's own live blog [LAUGH]. [LAUGH] You're like I have Brian Tong. Were you the live line? Well it's tough because, you know there's like, you know, CNET always wants to get the most information out there, so there's. Several people blogging at once. Right. There tends to be overlap that's not our fault. Right. It's just we're trying to give you the most info. I'm pretty sure that they've done that before. I know they've streamed stuff before whether or not. [CROSSTALK]. It's weird. Either way it's the Worldwide Developers Conference, it's usually a conference devoted to developers, people who make apps, who make software. Mm-hm. That culture. And it's usually a software base for the show. Every now and then like you told me before though, they'll come out with hardware stuff. But this was strictly software. Mm-hm. Strictly a software event. And you know, it was really kind of, I don't know it was weird, it, it. Apple's changing. Mm-hm. Their, their whole like delivery is changing. They're taking jabs, man. They're like taking jabs at Microsoft. Taking jabs at Android. I don't think those jabs like, went over real well as like, burns or anything. I kinda think like. About as well as the jokes did. Yeah, I mean look. They need to leave the jokes to the comedians. There was like maybe one or two jokes where I was like, like that. Yeah. But look, what's his face who's the, who's the guy speaking for the main part? Tim Cook. No and Tim Cook wasn't. Tim Cook was not talking for the majority of the show. It was Craig Federighi. Craig. Oh, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He's, I like that guy. I butchered his name right? I'm not- Is it Federighi? Yeah, I think so. Either way, he should be, he should be the face. Mm-hm. He is more personable. Yeah, he was good. No offense, Tim Cook, but, I mean it's kinda like a snoozefest when he hits the stage, right? I mean the guy's just not as charismatic as Craig Federighi. I'm not saying he's a bad guy, but he just doesn't have that stage presence. Mm-hm. Right? What was with the kid with the bionic arm? Yeah that- How come that wasn't a more widely publicized story? I feel like on this show- They, they kept him quiet. We always talk about the crazy things people are using their smart phones for. Their iPhones, but in the beginning of the show right, when they open up they show this video of all the different ways people are using iPhones. And they had a kid that used his iPhone to control his bionic arm. And he was like you know, knitting and peeling an orange. He's knitting? With his. With his, bionic finger. You mean knitting? I never heard about that before. Yeah, I think so. He was doing all sorts of weird things with that thing. He was knitting a cat's cradle with it. What? Why is it the first thing you're trying to do with your fake hand is knit? But then he had his iPhone in his other hand. Yeah. The working hand. Right. But it was weird, and, and they didn't really explain that [LAUGH] either. They just said here is a kid that is using it to control his iPhone. Yeah. I'm never a big fan when they try and you know, over estimate the importance of their stuff. Mm-hm. Right? They make toys. I get it, now productivity is a real thing and if you are helping one kid. Yeah. Use a fake hand. I'm afraid that we're gonna get a lot of emails from developers cuz I think. For someone like you and I that doesn't develop apps. Oh. Probably not as exciting as someone who has their own software company. I get it. That's really, really excited about all of these stuff- Right. Which we'll go over. [CROSSTALK] And I'm not downplaying it, I thought it was a pretty decent keynote. Mm-hm. I mean you said like a lot of the jokes didn't work, they didn't but when they were talking about how they got to the name of OS 10 Yosemite. Mm-hm. That was kind of funny. Yeah. They like, they called, they were gonna call it OS 10 Weed. Like yeah. They didn't even like beat around the bush there. [LAUGH]. Well there was, weed is really a city in California. I've been there before. Yeah. I drove all the way up to Weed before. It's crazy. Well then I, owe him an apology. [LAUGH]. What was there to do in Weed, California? It, it really is a place where people. Grow weed. Yeah. It's like, just known. I, I was doing freelance work for this company called Chronic Candy. They just make. [LAUGH] Candy that tastes like weed. [LAUGH]. But doesn't get you high, it just tastes like weed. Oh. Pause the show. [INAUDIBLE] It's like O'Doul's. Who the hell wants that? [LAUGH] Yeah, yeah. We always go offtrack on this topic. But in New York, I've seen those candy trucks that pull up and hand out. Samples to everybody. Yeah. They're not checking your ID or anything. Right. And it has cannabis leaves all over the side of the truck. Yep. You're saying those don't get you high, they don't. [CROSSTALK]. They don't get you high. They'll tell you that, too. Okay. It's kind of false advertising. [LAUGH] Yeah, it is. Why would you wanna do that? I don't know. Why would you want [CROSSTALK] to make it's just like the whole alcohol thing. Yeah. Why am I drinking something that tastes like beer but doesn't get me drunk? Exactly! Yeah, I bet going to a place like, called Weed, California. It's like the same as me thinking that Hershey, Pennsylvania is all chocolate. Like the street signs are made out of chocolate! [LAUGH] [LAUGH] It is. The light posts are. You can bite out of it. [CROSSTALK]. It's not like Willy Wonka's factory. Exactly. But, but it is, though, they're like, they love chocolate there. Yeah? Don't go to Hershey, you're not missing anything. [LAUGH]. But, I feel, like, I don't know, it's crazy to me, that why would you wanna do that? It's like I wanna work out and not get toned. That sounds like fun, anyway. [LAUGH] [CROSSTALK]. A funny like, you know trail map. Yeah. Like look, we went in circles for four hours. [LAUGH]. That was funny. That hit close to home, for sure. And I love Yosemite too, for anyone that's from California. Right. You have to go there. Mm-hm. And they, so they're like, and we finally landed on the name, OS 10 Yosemite, which I can't look at without saying Yosemite in my head [LAUGH]. Oh, you're such an easy hoster. I'm just saying, like. Yosemite, what is that? [CROSSTALK] I don't know, it's just that's what I see, when I, you know, I know, Yosemite, of course. Uh-huh. Like I just see that word and I he, I hear Yosemite in my head. Yosemite's a good name, but why, I'm wondering, didn't they call is Mac OS. 11. I mean is that [CROSSTALK] because of the incremental upgrades? Right cuz it's 10.10. Mm-hm. You would think once they hit 10. Yeah. You'd go to 11 and 11 is like OS you know, XI. Yeah. It's a little confusing. But Mac OS 10 Yosemite is the name of this upgrade. So there's a lot of things packed into this. Which, I think is kinda cool, right? For the most part. So let's go through, like, what's going on. There's gonna be a summer beta for OS 10 Yosemite. It'll be available in the fall for free. So what's in it? It's got a whole new typeface makeover. Mm-hm. Uh-huh, typeface is coming back, yeah. But it looks. Very clean. It looks. Pretty clean they're gonna have a dark mode. Mm-hm. Which I can only assume is for me. Mm-hm. To keep it dark. Lots of aesthetic changes. They're gonna have. The iCloud drive, which is basically like a Dropbox folder. mm-hm. Built in to finder, new icons, new visual sort of aesthetics all over the board. The translucent toolbar, they spent a long time on, but I do think that is pretty cool and I'm hoping its gonna come. To iOS, too eventually so you could see all the layers that you have open. Right. On your phone. I think it's silly like, I really wonder how much computing power is dedicated. Mm-hm. To making all of these things look so shiny. [LAUGH] And transparent, like - I don't think if you. Right. If we didn't tell, if you didn't tell us that this was a new thing. Would you realize? I'm not too sure that you would notice that the toolbar, I mean it's literally that. You know, half inch grids rip at the top. Right. Of every window. Now you can see barely what's underneath that. But that's, yeah. But it does, I'm sure, make a big difference when you're scrolling through a lot of photos or whatnot. I guess. There was a lot of masturbation over what this whole thing is gonna look like. Mm-hm. And, I don't know, like I get it. It's fun. Part of the fun for me is like finding that out yourself. Like when you get the new OS- Yeah. And you're like, I wonder what's new? I didn't, they spend a lot of time on that. Mm-hm. They spend like 15 minutes just talking about how clean the whole thing looks. Yeah. There's new calendar apps, there's new mail apps, which, do you, have, do you know anyone who uses mail? no, no. Un, unless they [CROSSTALK] use a non Gmail address. On a Mac? Yeah. My brother used to use it, but I never understood why he did it cuz it made his life way more complicated. Mm-hm. I didn't get it. Yeah, why would you, why would you use the mail app? If you had, maybe if you have pop three accounts in addition to your Gmail you'd have to need one spot to collect it all. Then use a pop three in gmail. [CROSSTALK] I don't know. And I don't know anybody that does that. And they're, like super psyched. They're, like, mails brand new. And everyone's like. Yeah, mail. You could do this with Gmail as well but what I think is really cool. Is the whole continuity features that they introduced. Right. This time around. That's really cool so what we're talking about is you can now basically keep your workflow rhythm from device to device. So if you have you know Mac Book Pro laptop and if you have an iPhone and an iPad, you can start an email on one. And, then other devices will all notice that, pick it up, and you can continue on any of the other devices. That's really cool. It's like real time work. It's a good idea. I'm skeptical, though. And, does that have to have, does that mean you have to have iOS 8 in your mobile device as well? Paired up with Yosemite. What's the deal? Is that how that has to happen? So I, according to CNET's article CNET's article which they wrote. Yeah. In May, iOS 8 is gonna work with every device at least for iPhones except for the 4. But for continuity to work. Like, I'm sure you'll be, have to, yeah you'll have to have the same OS. You'll have to be on the same WiFi network. And all that. Right. In order to make it work. That's what Apple does. Yeah. [CROSSTALK] And then you've got [CROSSTALK] buy new stuff. But it's free. Yeah. And the support goes back to the 4S which is. Mm-hm. How many years ago? That's like four years ago. Yeah. I think that's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. You can use your phone as a WiFi hotspot now. Yeah. Which is really cool. Right. That's a brand new feature we didn't see before. Yeah, and a, a lot of the phone integration was a big focus, and I think that's great because there's a lot of, like, third party workarounds that you have to deal with now. Especially. Mm-hm. If you're an Android user, and I could see some Android users kind of. You know. Getting a little jealous of what is gonna be offered in that whole Mac ecosystem. Hm. You use your com-, you can use your computer as a speakerphone, essentially. [UNKNOWN] For your phone. So if your phone's, you know, in another room. And you get a call. It's up on your computer. Mm-hm. And you can talk, you can text. You know, man, they. The, that Chris guy. He was talking about how like, if you have, if you have an inferior device, and. [LAUGH] He was basically alluding to Android. I'm just like **** you man, don't tell me I have an inferior device. Yeah, and then. That's not cool. Later on, I'm pretty sure he called Android devices a toxic hell stew of vulnerability. Well no. Which I think. He referred to the ZDNet quote. Right. [UNKNOWN] But I'm sure he agrees with it, too. Whatever, you gotta take that stuff with a grain of salt [CROSSTALK] But still, man, like, you know, I don't know. I, I get like the cheap shots, whatever. But that, that was actually a low blow. Yeah. In my opinion, cuz he's not going after. Android. He's going after the people who use Android. Mm-hm. Calling us sub-human. [LAUGH] What the hell's that about. Yeah. Right? I, I feel like a lot of the new features that you're gonna get on your desktop or your laptop that connect to your phone, are gonna be very good for spying. Right, I mean, God forbid, if you, if you live with someone that's kind of a snoop. It's gonna be really easy for them to read your messages now cuz all that stuff is gonna pop up on every one of your devices you know. If you're on your phone. Sure. She is on, or he is on your laptop, they'll be able to see everything that comes in. Yeah. That's a little alarming, I'm hoping that there's gonna be some privacy settings you can toggle. Well dude, I'm already living that reality I have. You guys share an, an iPad. Well we no, no, no. So we have a couple of laptops in the apartment and we don't really have ownership. We just sort of like use whatever's closest. Oh yeah, okay. And we just have separate browsers in the laptop. Mm-hm. So I have Mighty Text. You, you don't know what that is. You're, you're this iPhone person. Mighty Text is, is that functionality. Mm-hm. Let's me text through the computer. Mm-hm, mm-hm. And You know, when a text comes in it, it appears on every laptop in the house. Yeah. So, yeah. [CROSSTALK] Just don't do anything shady and you won't have nothing to hide. I know someone that got caught doing like, because of this iMessage. Cuz you, you have, that features are always been around to sync iMessage. Yeah And I know someone that got caught. Yeah you can, all you need is someone's iCloud password and that backs up all of your iMessages so even if you're traveling, somebody at home could check out what you're doing. Which is why you need a fake address. And a burner phone, for God's sake. Yeah, man. Nobody gets burner phones anymore. You're right, its a lost art. Anyway going back to the feature set of Yosemite the new Safari pretty impressive stuff. Way less energy consumption. Is that like a new, is that a new trend now? Are browsers gonna be fighting over which is the most. Energy conservative? That's interesting to me. I think that [CROSSTALK]. That's a huge deal. What, what I think is awesome is they said you're not gonna have to develop you're not gonna have to download things like Silverlight. Pretty cool. If you ever go on a new computer and try to watch Netflix you always have to download this Microsoft program. Right. You're not gonna have to do that anymore. And then they said two hours extra. Yeah, but that's also like HTML5 becoming pervasive. Once that happens. Yeah. You're not gonna have to download anything either. I'm sorry what did you? But imagine if you know, you take your laptop onto a plane or something like that. Right. And you wanna latch onto a WiFi network, you can do that now, I don't know they say two hours more. On your computer for battery life. If that's true, that's a huge deal. It's pretty impressive. There's a few little details about Safari that still have me favoring Chrome and Firefox. I don't like the tab management. I kinda wish you, like, I, I have a, I have a, a plugin that lets me do the equivalent. Equivalent of like Alt tab or Apple tab. Oh. Which lets you switch between tabs like- You would programs. Yeah. So I need that but I'm sure that might get baked in or at least offer some sort of extension for it. Mm-hm. So it's pretty neat, there's they're adding private browsing which. Can't believe. Come on. Yeah. Come on, let's get with the freaking program. And then there's like neat sort of touch features, which, you know, is good, good for laptops. I don't really know, and I saw them using the track pad for a desktop. Hm. And I don't know anyone who does that. No? Yeah. I know a lot of people. I know people who use Stylist. Mm-hm. Well a lot of people, they have that magic track pad. Right. But don't you still favor the mouse when using a desktop? Yeah. I like to do that cuz right clicking is a lot easier. Yeah. And dragging things. Cuz if you have a small track pad it's, whatever. But I know a lot of people that both like to scroll with their. Yeah. Fingers and a mouse at the same time. Yeah. Either of them. Okay. What I thought was really cool that we haven't talked about yet is Spotlight that upgrades to the finder. Right. Looked really awesome and you can tell that they're definitely trying to make a jab at Google Chrome. Yeah. Because now, if you pull up your Spotlight, just you know? Click on that magnifying glass. You can type in anything from movies. And, it'll bring up local movie times. Yeah. [UNKNOWN] close by. Or, it'll look up maps and driving directions. Really cool stuff. Or, even Yelp reviews they've baked into the restaurant search now. Right. So all that stuff, you can kind of tell they're trying to pull everybody back from the Google crowd. Right, you're right, they weren't, you know, everyone was sort of waiting for them to like leap frog. And I guess they. Yeah. Kind of did with that stuff, where Chrome kind of leap frogged Safari a couple of years ago, but that, you know, that's just catch up stuff. Mm-hm. That, you know, probably could be made up in a pretty quick amount of time. I think the cooler thing for so far in like, and would you say with Spotlight, Spotlight for me like, I never use Spotlight. I use Quicksilver, which is an app for Mac that gives you that shortcut access to anything. Mm-hm. But now, Spotlight just replaced that in a second. Yeah. Like Quicksilver's done. Mm-hm. And I noticed a lot of apps, third party apps, have been replaced in this keynote. Mm-hm. Viber. Like, I. Yeah. You know, I feel like if you use a Mac you know, stuff like Whatsapp and Viber now. Hm-hm. Have taken a hit because of the functionality of the messaging program, although cross platform is still gonna be a pain in the **** for you. alright, let's deal with messaging, let's, let's get into iOS 8. Okay. Cuz this is really cool, piggy backing on what you just said the ability to mute a con, a group conversation, game changer for me. [LAUGH] I think that is probably the most exciting announcement. Smart. That they have made today. Smart, smart. What the hell were they waiting for? Yeah, if you've ever been unwillingly attached to a group chat conversation and it gets really lively and you're getting beeps on your phone every ten seconds, Yeah. You can now remove yourself quietly from that chat. You can still see them. But you won't get the annoying notifications. And you can do that thread by thread too, so you can pick and choose which ones you wanna ignore. I love that. It's smart. It's a, it's a good idea. So gro- messaging got a lot of upgrades. Mm-hm. There's quicker access in iOS 8 to functional notifications. So, let's say you get a text, you can do a swipe and it instantly reply. Mm-hm. As opposed to going right into the program. Which is just smart and in a way it should be. Yeah. A lot of people commenting on Twitter that these were, this is all functionality. That sort of, like, no brainer stuff that you should've been baked in and seven, but nevertheless. That's fine. So you could do that with emails and texting. Mm-hm. Spotlight has a lot of suggestions in iOS 8. Quicktype, another thing that's replaced, basically, SwiftKey. Yeah. Which is like a third party keyboard. A lot of predictive text, it's gonna learn how you type, what words you use. Use and figure out a way to suggest what you should probably type next. That's, that sounds cool because yeah, you're gonna save, you know, seconds on a sentence or whatever. No, you do man. SwiftKeys, SwiftKey. Yeah. Changed my life. And, and I wanna see how adaptive it is to the words that you use if you,. Yeah. You know, commonly use the word awesome or sick, or something. Dude, it'll work. It'll type it out after you automatically. Yeah. But, I don't know. There's something about that makes me feel uncomfortable about them just knowing me more than myself. You know, oh, maybe I do wanna say that. That sucks. Having to choose between what the iPhone thinks you wanna say versus what you would come up with creatively [CROSSTALK] It's a weird process. [UNKNOWN] Original. Yeah, yeah. It's weird. Like, the. I don't know. Do we all have a very small grab bag of vocab that we use? No but I think you would be surprised how often you end up texting the same thing, so. Right, right. So what's really cool is the example that he showed was if somebody asked you a question like do you want a hot dog or a hamburger? It'll know that you're being asked that, and then automatically pop up hamburger and hotdog. Right. So you just quickly reply. That's kinda cool. Yeah, I mean where it's contextual, and it's not like completely thinking for you. Yeah. Then I'm into it. They introduced obviously, iCloud drive with the iOS 8 functionality, and then the health kit stuff. Mm-hm. They're gonna try and you know, continue that campaign to revolutionize that industry, which. I thought some of it was cool. Man, they showed, they showed like the stats for someone that should, needed to see a doctor right away. Yeah. It was like someone with a really bad. Yeah. Blood pressure. Yeah. There should've been like a beeping alarm or something. Yeah there should've been like a little. Something. Little red siren that comes out of the top of the iPhone. I, I feel like the implication there is. Probably that the iWatch is coming really soon, and just the fact that they're acknowledging. Right. The health kit app. Right, it's gotta, it's gotta. Yeah, iOS 8 is completely ready to go onto your wrist. Yeah. It's gonna happen. Yeah. For sure. Well, look at you, becoming like a tech pundit. Yeah. Forecasting, all seeing. I love it. [LAUGH] Family sharing, all the purchases that you make in the, in stores. Mm-hm. Can be shared with up to six family members. Now here's the catch, who were all on the same credit card. Right. Which means like, you're not gonna be able to like. Jeff and Justin aren't going to be able to split it. Mm-hm. It's gonna have to be literally in your same house using the same credit card. [LAUGH] So don't get too excited about that. But they did beef up the security too, which I thought was a creative move. So now you can assign a master phone. Right. And then, anytime your kids try to buy something on their individual handsets. You'll have to approve it on yours. Right. Which is the way it should have been too. Photos are getting a, some improvements. Every single photo you take is now available on every single device you have. Why is that bad? This is great. This whole. Yeah. Keynote was basically like saying to me. Jeff, you're never gonna get a call from your mom again. Yeah. About her not understanding anything because we've made it so painfully easy. Mm-hm. No, that, that's a good feature and I'm not knocking that. It's just, my complaint is I've been waiting for them to allow you to add notes or tags. Right. To photos and you still can't do that. Yeah. And that's where those really basic things. And I'm sure a million apps do on Android. Sure. But if I wanna tag mom in my photo I can't do that. And look at all the photos that I've taken in my album. And that's. That's crazy to me. Right? I mean, why are we not doing that? That's like, a very basic feature of, even like iPhotos,. And they, they really just, like, dangle you over the ledge too. Yeah. Because they have the ability to create albums, which is almost there in terms of organization. Right. Just, go the entire way. Give me this thing. You almost wish that Apple had, like, an ideas box that everybody could petition. Yeah. No, it's a. Look, I guarantee it's something they're working on. But look, this ain't your first day with Apple, man. Yeah. You know how it works. Yeah. You got the, the price of admission is getting a whole lot of cool stuff. And then maybe some super basic [CROSSTALK] crap that everyone else on every other platform can enjoy. Yeah. But you'll get it maybe eight to ten months later. And then finally with iOS. Eight, third party keyboards gonna be allowed. Yeah. So like I said, SwiftKey possibly making the jump over. And then there were a few things about Siri you can now Shazam with Siri. Mm-hm. Buy music with Siri. And then just go and you can go like activate it without hitting the button. You can just say like. Yeah. Hey Siri, which. Should be the way it works. You know what I also think is really cool is the fact that they sort of improved multi-tasking to where if you're playing a game, for example, and you get a, a text message. Hm. You can reply. Within the pop up window. You don't actually have to switch the app to reply to it. Which is great. Right, functional notification. Yeah, because, I, I mean, you have an iPhone, I'm sure you're frustrated about this too. Is sometimes you'll be doing something that's relatively important. Looking up restaurants on Yelp, and you'll get a message. You'll take two minutes to reply to that. Mm-hm. And when you go back to Yelp, it restarts the app back to the homepage. Yeah. [CROSSTALK] And so you have to do the entire workflow again, which is totally a first world problem. [CROSSTALK] Everything we're complaining about is a first world problem, but within the context of this show. It's a big complaint. Yeah. And it, it does that for things like Maps. Hm. You know what I mean. If you're looking up directions. Yeah, yeah. And it takes a long time to, to type in that start and end address. Unfortunately, if you get distracted by something on your phone, you can't switch back without it restarting. That's so annoying. It's funny that, you know, he, he left a part out of the keynote where he was like. [INAUDIBLE] Or he could have been like, now we know Android users have been enjoying this functionality for, for years. Yeah. Literally years. But, you know, it's, so it's interesting. But yeah, I don't know how you people have lived with that. [LAUGH]. How does that work on an Android phone? Just like, you get an app that has pop up messaging. Uh-huh. And it just sits and hovers above whatever you're doing. But the background app doesn't refresh it just. No. Stays at the same point. Why should it? Why should it reset? Thanks for the enhancements. Yeah, there you go. Home Kit, and then, and then like right at the end they. Crammed in so much geekery. Yeah, that was rather difficult for developers. Man, that was brutal for us normal people. [LAUGH] I'm not saying coders are, aren't normal, they're just cut from a different cloth. Home Kit is a back end development, a suite that will allow access to a unified. Home automation service that people can program for. And then Metal is a new sort of games language that they're gonna develop as well. Mm-hm. Home Kit is gonna be the back to the future to voice recognition because you can use Siri with it. Right. According to what they're saying. You can. So the idea is maybe one day you can walk into your home and you could say I'm home and it'll recognize Justin, you is home. Yeah. And, and, and have all your lighting and temperature to your settings. That's really cool. I mean, I guess. Now don't forget. One day. That's only one piece of the puzzle. You know, like your entire home still needs to be wired up for that. Right. We're still not there yet. But at least they're kind of opening Pandora's box and saying hey. This, the future could, could rest with with this. And Nest unsurprisingly missing. From the list of apps that would be supported by Home Kit right away. Right cuz Google bought. Yeah, you're not gonna see that, ever! No you're not gonna see that. It's interesting, so today WWDC was trending on Twitter for a very long time. Mm-hm. But for some reason, Mortal Kombat X. Yeah. Continues to stay well ahead of it. I'm not gonna lie, I had a separate window open, during that show, to watch the trailer for Mortal Kombat X. Which, you know, I think the trailer really is not impressive but. You know, I just, it's interesting. You know, you think that Apple's the center of the tech world. Mm-hm. Yet Mortal Combat 10 just stayed there right along with it. There was even a bit of overlap with the X and everything. Yeah. Not a problem, Mortal Kombat 10, Mortal Kombat X withstanding the pressure from Apple during the entire day. And it's still trending right this very second. Yeah. So. [UNKNOWN] Oh Siri is now gonna be your new Shazam, so I can. Assure you that everyone in the Shazam office is probably pissing themselves right now. Well, no, because it's, I think. Does it use Shazam? Yeah, they said Shazam. Oh. It ain't like it's gonna Shazam. They don't use the verb? [LAUGH] Okay. So they're gonna use like Yelp. Yeah. Is in the restaurant. Yeah, it's gonna have it build in. So you're good for now with Shazam. Yeah. I think they're okay. [LAUGH]. I don't think like. Look, there's a lot of ideas that, that, that they listed. Yeah. In this Keynote. Like they listed a lot of stuff. Which is fine. I guess you can't copyright everything. Yeah. I just love how like, Apple just pisses on everyone's parade like, oh my God you can't do this. You can't do that. Mm-hm. You know, they, they just play like patent troll with everything. And then a nice. Very, very significant chunk. Mm-hm. Of their Keynote dealt with features that were listed elsewhere. Like for example with Quiksilver and even stuff like from Viber and stuff like that, so. But them opening up the keyboard API, that's probably something I wouldn't have predicted. Yeah, that's like them unlocking [CROSSTALK] something. A new era of Apple. Pretty big. So yeah. Look. I'm, I was genuinely, I don't wanna say impressed, but I was satisfied with what they did. Mm-hm. I think, you know, they didn't blow people out of the water, but they made a nice sort of step in a, in an interesting direction. Yeah. So I'm not totally disappointed where in years past I've just been completely underwhelmed. Yeah. I was also very excited about Dr. Dre's appearance. Even if it was just his voice. I really wanted to, to get him into the Keynote somehow cuz that is two worlds that I never thought would intersect. Yeah but how. They phoned up Dr. Dre. How less of a freaking integration could you possibly have? [LAUGH] Like they basically just played a recording of him. Yeah, yeah. You could tell that he was, he was talking over the audience when they were clapping. That's right. Which means they, that someone hit that playback button a little too early. Or he was just reading a script or whatever it was. Yeah. I mean look. But he was there. He was kind of there, as a spirit. Maybe they just should of just had a Dr. Dre hologram. Or why didn't they have him perform a song at the end? Isn't there usually a, a musical performance at the end of WWDC? I'm not sure like a doctor, don't get me wrong, I really do like Dr. Dre. Yeah. People know that. But I'm not sure a Dr. Dre performance would have meshed well. Awesome. With the spirit. Of, of you know, Yosemite. Yeah. Right? I'm not sure the, I'm not sure. I think those two might have clashed. [LAUGH] Two different venues, for sure. Yeah. But I'm really excited about those on a personal level cuz I'm still using an iPhone 4S and so whatever hardware they announce next is gonna be my next phone. You gonna get the iPhone 6. Yeah, so that, that's gonna mean a lot. For me, and so far I like it when I see it. First time that I ever really truly considered, even though I don't use a Mac book at home anymore. The first time I considered, like, maybe I'll just get an iPhone. Yeah. [INAUDIBLE] like stop having to think about everything, but probably not. But probably not. We'll see how it goes. Obviously, the thing that sold me was that speaker phone thing. I think that. Yeah. I think that [CROSSTALK]. It's cool, yeah, not to have to worry about pulling it out of your pocket. Right. If someone contacts you. I also don't want to be part of you sheeple. You, is that what you're calling us? Sheeple. Us sheeple have a 97%. What, what'd they say. They- I don't know. [CROSSTALK] I could throw a bunch of numbers. I could throw a bunch of unsourced numbers. Have a 97% positive. Get outa here! What is that? Positive customer response? I have no idea how they calculated that. Poppycock. Who, you just throw a bunch of freakin', you know, percentages and unsourced numbers in a keynote. Yeah. And it's gospel. Sure. Whatever you say, Mr. Cook. You and your sneakers. Well I don't think anyone's completely happy with their phone or their OS on it. No. So, you know, I would also take that with a grain of salt. Absolutely. Once you're old enough and you've been around the tech world long enough you know that everything sucks. Mm-hm. Right? I guess so. Everything just sucks. But the bionic arm, it's so cool. Yeah, whats the guys name? Patrick, Patrick Cane? Yeah. Its, if, they have put that recording up later on, just go and watch the first five minutes. Yeah. Cuz it is revolutionary. Yeah, pretty cool. alright. That's it. There you have it, our fantastic, no B-S run down of the WWDC conference. Key note that happened this morning in San Francisco. Obviously, you're gonna wanna head over to cnet.com for all the other news that came out of this show. Keep following along with all that stuff, we're back here tomorrow with a brand new show. Until then, I'm Jeff Bakalar. 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