Ep 42: Who's afraid of the big bad brick?Amazon's Android blitz continues with the launch of the Cloud Player service and a deal to preinstall its App Store onto phones. Meanwhile, in the original Android Market, app makers get a new way to monetize their wares. Also, Antuan risks bricking his...
Music in the -- and -- -- in the app and -- -- -- on the nook on this week's edition of -- and -- -- for march 31 2011 I'm just a cast alongside Antuan -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Google Video here near busy were you working on will last week -- off my -- and -- on right and network. And things we the last show and durable thanks been rooted. And actually the Mueller has been unlocked in my case it's -- and militants came. It does happen it just happened I don't know the hacking community it's hard at work. An all time would -- like a week actually within a couple days of the phone had been -- and -- -- unlocked and then just actually two days ago. The I -- the kernel the actual. In. Simplest way to -- it is almost like the firmware. You know that the core of the -- for the -- -- -- had been released by TC and -- two days later we've got. Like six or seven different custom -- literally showing up all over it like hacking -- -- gonna do. If during the course of this show. I'm an attempt to install one of those custom -- when -- -- -- actually going to be installing its called virus -- And the reason attitudes influence because you get rid of all the HTC's sense nonsense and should take me back to. Pretty close to stock injury experience so the first thing I've done is I've downloaded the -- itself. Well first thing it it was routed the sickening and it with download the rom it felt from the XP developers forum on my phone and ever booted into what's called a recovery mode. And in from here. I'm actually going -- Jump down. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And from here should be -- the CNET second or so. I'll be able to actually install firmware now Amber's gonna do the news -- a lot of this waiting on the firmware. To install. But periodically I believe you guys you know what happened and hopefully by the -- -- you'll -- new firmware and not -- -- phone. Hopefully about us cellular brick phone and not new firmware when he examined the other -- -- I don't know. I just when it's safe to say why you hate my phone through agreements because you -- -- -- ran I don't know upon sand. -- should have bought a windows phone seven phones that's what I'm really saying I think you're on the wrong show conference and I'll know I'm not actually. That is -- lead in to -- are useless data of the week which comes courtesy of IDC's this week. -- they -- some projections not just for this year or of the past year but it actually has far forward as 2015. That's -- four years of a feature here. Com and to know -- surprise. At least no one in this room Android is still a little. In the lead with 45 point 4% of American in 2015. However to at least -- surprise second. To Android is windows phone 720. Point 9% of the market. -- -- -- -- -- -- That's surprising considering windows phone seven is the new kid on the block only as I looked like there are also rolling Windows Mobile Internet rate at that -- next. -- a lot of people did I had a couple Windows Mobile phone open or do they have that now and added and -- -- will play in 2015. Who knows. -- -- on Symbian -- point 2% of the Merck -- -- fifteen. At an adventurous thing the projections predict and is again the most interest in part. Yet -- Innuendo alone. -- been -- windows phone seven being out biker and -- OS who -- error are kind of neck and neck and I OS and third place with fifteen point 3% and Blackberry thirteen point seven. So I mean you know it's it's impossible I -- just we'll -- -- it project. Any and accuracy. Out that far. In a market that's evolved in this quickly especially elect who knew this windows phone seven Nokia deals gonna happen. So who knows what other crazy deals are gonna happen you know -- -- who Google made by Microsoft before 2015. Tell the person -- -- on the article as windows phone really think a bookmark this page to come back and laugh in four years there -- like nobody. Eventually. You know on the -- -- this. -- you know these data make your money put -- useless statistics of the week the F oppose. Anyway well that's that's it. This week's edition product you buy IDC. So. Woolsey while bookmark this page we have written down and will come back off on this -- important for years. And that tell you what the reality actually. -- in other news. We've actually get if there were rumors. A Google working on music streaming cloud based service they're actually like leaked -- and -- we -- we've talked about pupil hadn't actually working. We talked about the they have that it Google music's -- -- -- -- yet some people actually found like a bit of it India honeycomb. Actually SDK and or that thing is that the software that that runs a medical devices and data they got it working. But then nobody really knew -- if there was gonna come out and then all of a sudden. The beginning of this week Amazon actually just beat Google and Apple to the -- -- their own. Cloud based music streaming service that Amazon cloud player. Common sexually is that sort of an offshoot. Of their Amazon cloud drive service which actually gives people for free. Five gigabytes of storage space on Amazon servers to put whatever you want there now that the -- player. Actually roles in the ability to store music on there any music that you buy and Amazon that story is I -- an entirely. Mac or windows. -- you played on her site you play it through the the of the browser then eyes the one which you can do it the actual cloud players fight has. The player built into it -- the other way. If they've actually updated the -- -- MP3 store app. On Android and it's now just become Amazon MP3. And that actually rules there music -- and and there -- players text and one application ala iTunes where you're actually -- buying and playing. You music. The difference being that you can also add your own music to Amazon's cloud service to -- uploading to that server. Adventurous thing it is interest -- it kind of almost makes one of my predictions. Come true which one of those of that. That there was going to be sort of -- ITunes like music service for Android. May have said there'll it was coming from Google though -- I think gave everyone but we're gonna come from Google -- yet still come from Google. The interesting thing about the services that to get beyond the five gigs you can pay about a dollar per game per year. -- -- when he -- -- if he gave up to a terabyte of space. But Amazon did a really interest in thing when they announced that at the launch of this -- and the -- cloud players service. If you bought an album. The couple Amazon album that really matter was when it is they'll automatically -- you twenty -- for the first year. The interesting thing about that also is that the MP3 that you buy and Amazon's App Store. Don't count against your five -- -- game. So you know you can download fifteen albums and still have your whole twenty gigs -- -- -- -- -- -- -- stored in its -- space. I think that's really that's a smart way for Amazon to get a little bit of return. On their investment he Erica is for example I. Went online bought one album just to get the ball but the twenty -- but then by the end the day poking around the -- -- bought three. I don't know how many people did that a lot of people -- gaming the system by buying at sixty -- -- album. But you know -- it's interesting because when they have your attention they had your music stored on their servers I think it's actually gonna make it more likely for people to return. To the store. Yeah I mean the other interesting thing here is this isn't just that music read the twenty gigs can be used for any files you want -- right. It does exactly drop rates not a drop box -- -- and don't. Currently they don't make it easy to. Just an annual file on their suspect a single -- -- upload but. You gotta think that's coming right. Around in or maybe -- -- maybe they don't seem to like -- -- by. And I don't know maybe they will will start to put more of the open fifth on something you can't do one drop by which -- stream your music from their servers I mean I -- Put about five -- of my music on Amazon server and I've been listening to it. Almost exclusively on my phone this week and I mean maybe its just gonna effect and -- connection that haven't found that -- And it's actually a lot more useful. To -- minutes of their twenty gigs of space in the developing a lot of -- phones only heavily eight gigs of storage space. -- -- more more music than you can fit on your phone of course you to be somewhere where there's signal. Am pretty curious about economics here -- certainly twenty bucks for. Twenty gigs of storage or even the five games they're giving you for free and that -- -- for any transfer you cannot seem to stream gigs and gigs and gigs. All day long one -- also understand that a lot of carriers are moving to a cap. For you'll really be able to scream stream gigs indeed engage. All the -- and in the in a realistic situational overall -- I guess over one idea and makes and. Managed keeping his. Amazon you know. They released the App Store what a week ago or so you and now this for only entrant they're really betting heavily on -- here they are a minute I think their pros and make look the hundreds -- would love to. I'm just speaking for them I have no idea what they actually -- We'd love to offer this -- -- OS but it's just too locked down I mean do you think they don't have an analyst app because Apple wouldn't allow that -- that. Competing. I don't know I know I'm not really sure like I'm I'm I'm not the best like expert on how hard it is I mean how hard -- how easy it is to. -- to get a -- in the the iTunes store. I but I assume that you you know and it is a little bit more restricted and you know and they they do have those sort of like. You know you can't have an -- -- -- something that we already do right so. It is or infringes on the way we make money right so I mean. If Apple is planning their own closely music services it's conceivable that they would block in the -- Quietly. And that -- the reason we haven't seen the cross platform want to but that. Speaking of App Store is there is an update to the Android market this week in -- billion is available at black. -- -- -- Room. Developers I guess -- found what I mean that. He had taken this may be will allow a lot of apps that are four -- OS and really depend on in app billing. Successive games to. Finally come to and -- to offer more features any Android. And you know I think also facilitates and Netflix subscription based stuff and -- know they -- to reduce their subscription service but it. You can buy it just. Individual issues of -- -- this but really seems to be a lot of it teams so far rate move like what games in particular. Who received their list here has. A tap tap -- Diego were here's -- -- veterans and I would play real attempt arrogance on the -- attached. But if -- deer -- challenge. Dragon the engine defenders. FW deluxe and a -- Brothers. Another big phone camera. Around but I think is really good for developers I think in near the one thing that that and on the a lot of people talk about. But I think would be a really good inflammation and implementation of the net billing if you know -- lot of apps have like a light version and a paid version. And until you -- you download an app you download the lite versions you'll like all -- this -- my app I'd like to you know unlike -- functionalities to leave it. -- developers do this. They either make you download a second -- That in an uninstall the first step breadth and -- and now you're using the full when you lost lawyer stating have to go -- -- a processing or you have to download a second. Sort of like. Go app which only installs an unlocked stuff in the first Apogee to go back into the market for that like app developers can now use the sort of in out. Purchase. Process to unlock the service. Or the functions of like a you won't have to go to -- that rigmarole. Yeah and I think that could be a pretty -- in these -- Continuing down the -- -- theme here in the Nook Color. Is getting its own App Store and April -- won't be the handwritten market unfortunately. -- enforcement from my perspective -- -- but it will be getting you know its own App Store with you know. A variety of interest in apps like angry -- of course. And it's also -- flash. You know it's interesting. The other -- again the neck being the weird sort of dark horse in the tablet market. -- -- that it not even really have learned it started as an. Let's compete right you know I think. And what happened to the hacking community developed all of this there's little bit of buzz around the network. And so who. You know where was one sort of like you know -- you -- and -- like that use by tablet. You know the the enthusiasts are excited about the -- and they're gonna go talk to there. If brains ambling to by the neck and regulate all he had the ability to really cool things on Monday with a -- little block and all -- you know it could be all that for example their mom it's gonna take with in the conversation is like oh my offended all the cool stuff on in the company to pick one up. About -- -- a -- functionalities. You know. And not Barnes & Noble is actually. Making good on -- problem a few of those problems. And maybe even -- -- -- need. We're desire to route you're no -- if they offer app stores and all the stuff that you are looking to get for the most part it am -- -- it may be you won't rooted in which case you won't put the Amazon Kindle app on there. Need so you know I think it's a good. Play here. You know -- say ahead of Amazon. You know in this respect and I he got to believe that Amazon this is looking to put out there -- however it. -- -- most definitely the I mean if -- mean that may actually be. A little bit of the the behind the scenes as to why they're so invested in -- now for a cloud player. With their own App Store it's because they're looking to maybe push the Kindle into it into an injury based device that does more than actually already does where it -- -- -- put that in my area. Predictions for -- here. Well let's talk we talked for your new phone has that it. Process government right so I've. Backed up my stock rom because of that the first thing you wanna do it if you do ran into issues that doesn't happen -- wiped. My firmware and -- actually install the virus from so this is actually what he does. You know ASCII art that -- -- are incomplete for the next bit beer is gonna be to reboot my phone and hopefully some little happened though. Ability what's going on with the. So that's your new phone -- -- let's talk about my new phone -- -- you have an iPhone well. Have this incredible for I don't know 34. Months now it's getting pretty old. Com. Yeah I mean I'd sit on the several for that I've been looking forward to the Motorola bionic -- actually -- -- -- write your new phone as well your new new phone. -- your phone in the the two right next to. Aaron baddeley might my new -- drinking in their account though. Let Alia -- union a lot of it is look at the sprint phone -- not in Verizon's lineup and I really relevant to after the retirement now but that. Phone has been getting a lot of attention -- interment in a hands on it -- CIA and he came back old -- would really be impressed. But it definitely not under well. What does -- pressed the play you're able you don't -- -- just like. Typically rated good to other. It's so cool it uses like -- -- He is. So there -- leaked Vegas Verizon's. Spring plans in terms of -- Android phones are gonna be released. So bunch of handsets and release states. In the thunderbolts coming out march 17. Unit. -- that says here I am pretty much the stuff on the list has proven to be active so far com. That Sony experience listed as April 14. Around the -- charge April 7 the -- TC incredible tool which is listed as a global phone at the end of April April 28. And then. Listed -- made no specific date is the Motorola by -- but I am looking forward to as well as the Droid X two and the Samsung galaxy two. So. You know we don't know for sure if this is correct but it it looks pretty legit even. Been released so far hand. I think me as perfect time for upgrade for me. Right -- with interest in here in again this is the continuing story. Of Verizon's investment -- Android it's like and brain injury injury to injury entry entry Windows 7 entry entry injury if things like. You know they've got the iPhone. They've got a couple of windows phone seven phone but integrated. Overwhelmingly. What -- thrown their weight behind. Yes indeed. As is cellular -- everybody's favorite Taylor here. And or -- and doesn't come -- The we talked well we keep talking about app stores this week and I think. We've covered obvious that Amazon Napster a couple times and how. -- last week he talked about how hard it is to get that onto your phone for. And what you have been given AT&T phone at impossible currently you know I guess there were kind of work environment. But cellular south is -- the HTC emerge. With -- -- App Store pre loaded on there. Also. I imagine this is just the first of what we'll see first of many handsets and carriers. As Amazon goes out there makes deals with those guys to sort of yet that App Store -- and from those people as much as possible. And I also noticed as we they're promoting it heavily actually with -- -- Amazon. And shopping and Amazon. App for entrant. -- so if they're doing a full court press -- but he is currently is fairly difficult to. Get it on there. First of receivers -- user where anyone who hasn't really. Gone down to deep dive into the settings of Android -- And wanted a little video and actually how to enable third party happens -- -- -- phones to the look at. I'm rain after we take in the short -- So stay tuned after the break or and on how to hold your -- Most is very users who get their apps -- from the Android market but there are plenty of very cool apps to be found outside of the market from small developers and more recently. From third party -- -- -- is Amazon's App Store for Android. Out of the boxer and her phone will not allow you to make use of the third party apps flagging -- on trusted sources but c'mon you can trust Amazon today. And it's -- -- -- cnet.com and I'm gonna show you how to enable third party app installation on your Android phone. Now enabling -- is actually quite simple just pop into your Android phone fitting in new look for the -- -- is option. Tap that and then look for an option that says unknown sources usually the first one here but the place they can vary from phone to phone. Check that box then back out -- the menu and why you'll be able to install third party apps from anywhere. Now the -- themselves easily transport us back a PK files and can be found all over the place. The -- -- place will be from Amazon's App Store but don't let your -- -- there. Oftentimes app makers will make beta versions of their -- such as these -- alternative keyboard. Available on their website which can be downloaded and installed directly from your phone's browser. Other places to look include injury hacking community that has the -- developer forums or -- forums. Where did they're always taking a neat little Apple it's that you can download -- phones SD card and then access and install using a file manager such -- Astro. Unfortunately access to the third party app installation function is at the discretion of your wireless service provider. So for example uses of AT&T powered Android phones such as the -- -- four G and Samsung captivate. Are unable to use or even see this option without first routing their phone and possibly get your hands very with -- command line actions. Well -- you have it you're now free to get your app from wherever you darn well please. Be sure to check out the injury Allen's blog -- a more injury tips and tricks and CNET TV -- and more how to videos. It's -- it's -- do with cnet.com. Showing you how it's done. So third party apps on the phone is actually pretty easy. If you don't yet know overlooked any phone allows that thumb -- Apple actually point two in the right direction. We don't like open up the screen and just say yeah click here go to -- recently you know little. Those of you and maybe a little confused as to what you're looking for. Media. There you go so when he's not quite as easy is as we're seeing today and -- only in third party grounds actually it's quite easy. I am now got -- rom installed there's but. But locked screen for the virus from looked like. That phone looks bigger than your head -- -- it's bigger than my head actually. So yet here I am I'm running around there's not much on my home screen right now. But it's been re skin and just an alien X -- yet everything is really sort of like dark and there's a different I faith. -- play around with some other things all the changes happened underneath. You know and and and and under the hood so you'll really be you'll see a lot of them but I mean just that quickly. I was able to back up my rom reinstall and -- Rodman. In -- that I used to do this like every week. On the -- one I was trying a different on every single -- really excited about. Being able to do that Monica. Knives -- -- bit you have a -- -- Droid X or -- Fareed two. And maybe not -- to run a custom rom but maybe you wanna get a little bit of gingerbread goodness if those devices right now are -- fro yo. A similar process can be used to -- download a leaked problem. Of injury to debt three got three that the latest version gingerbread on both the Droid two and the Droid -- So overrun injury police to have instructions. For users of those devices to would want to maybe get a little bit ahead of the curve there. To download those roms. And that's Akamai there's also I think for the galaxy at X there was linked. The leaked rom. For that when -- has been up. So when you say are these. Morons actually intended for these devices are Stockton event that had been made to work on the -- in the case of the Droid X mystery to they are -- -- appear to be. -- -- Roms from Motorola because they haven't updated version of moto -- Which is again supposed to be even less intrusive -- means at least intrusive prism of -- blurs when the there. But these aren't they do appear to be. An official roms from Motorola -- just were -- early. -- -- Cool so let us know if you try that on your very Dextre to Hulu don't blame me if you really brick your phone using -- profit. Now we -- irresponsibility. Switching gears a little bit here to. Tablets which I guess we -- very early in the show but not a whole lot compared to last week. Where it was tablet mania. There's rumors out this week about. The possible need Google nexus tablet so they have released the two nexus phones. The next one of the nexus -- -- far. I'm and they were reported to be working with LG on actually. It tablet then presumably will be -- Google brand today guests. -- -- -- Google designed incorporation with LG some went to -- of how they did the nexus S with Samsung. So. I don't know when it does -- matter. Do we care about this. We -- care because you know it again the whole concept of you know they're being. Flagship. Device I mean I guess it'll wait a little late though it does zoom -- the likes of device right now rate. But I mean the next fifth landing. -- it's important to Google at least. He needs something to give their employees at Christmas party at her yeah I guess. That's what that's -- -- So I think the timing and -- disposable incidents second half of the year. -- -- -- news here. I'm but I don't know -- yet says could reach consumers' lives here. So could be important could not. I guess it depends you know maybe this will feature early the next version. It's will be the first ice -- and what's tablet. That's -- complete -- Our right speaking of hardware. Not from Google but running -- hundred. There was the announcement they've pretty interesting little phone this week from -- cell. -- so acts as company that runs the go go inflate. Wi-Fi service that many personal airlines currently use around. And so they have released a phone for in flight calling and so before you freak out this phone is actually. Designed just for commercial. You know sort of corporate jet -- So you won't this isn't something we're -- -- person next you. You know -- three rows back in. For -- -- -- -- -- but. -- -- for people who wanna make phone calls on their corporate jet and who I guess have. The go go service on those -- the abilities is -- make phone calls it's not Clear Lake. It is gonna work like -- school air phones engines to. You know only worked for calling after news like use Google Voice and register. -- in your school hours Cameron's phone for the duration of flight. It's it's a little weird -- -- you know -- -- running out on May exist in the hundred phone that will let me make phone calls over the you know what I service on the -- And -- -- fifth a little bit odd to me. I am still having a hard time understanding like you know what this -- Where this phone fits into the in the grand scheme of things. Yet if it's a little odd that. I can I would say we can we've seen it happen here but we'll probably never hearings on again or at least I will -- -- frequent corporate -- -- -- -- -- If you have corporate genuine pleasure in the world on limited. -- -- -- and a couple interest in apps out this week one of them Firefox. For Android which has been -- in beta for quite a long time is finally reached full status you know at. Or roughly the same time for Android has. For the desktop. And you've been using this for a little -- -- Yes spent they're traveling with -- both the desktop and the the need if the mobile version of Firefox there -- a lot of good things about it. We particularly. Liked the the tab Fink. And the head of bookmark sync in the in no way that you can -- -- Chrome to phone Marty. The sort of gap -- I mean in and on Firefox it's actually kind of seamless. If you when you close your browser. If you haven't sent it to do so. It will actually automatically sync with tabs you have open on your brother. And you connect systems on your phone it -- -- lot of interesting things happening there. I personally literally in two ways -- -- but rather on the desktop or. In the mobile but I think it's just I think I'm so used to Chrome at this point that aren't allowed small things that -- -- affixed with plug in. Just never -- right -- -- and I think they have an uphill battle on Lander are especially when there's browser it's already follow we've learned for you engineers how strong deposition Nike Microsoft. And you know I think they have an uphill battle on but are things can happen like. He knows they're gonna be antitrust stuff with Google now that there's an alternate browsers them. They're gonna have the Atlantic and it hasn't happened about. Where you can't get an alternate browser the most part. And yet distance estimate Steve features. -- has add ons which is pretty cool. Tom is Chrome my guess an announcement but it does not really a directory of them. So you know arm -- -- -- Chrome and unfunded -- opera and battle for mobile Alia you know know -- work. Norton Ohio I was actually met -- -- -- -- that you could. Well but Firefox does yet Derek -- up front and -- exactly and -- Make it a big point in the interface excellent you'd be there were the end when the only -- actually use Firefox still on my desktop is to access -- owns. That don't exist for Chrome. -- private browsing. The mobile and I think I don't know -- remember. But if you want to know -- with sick I'll be. The the article that we've -- over here actually I think since this article published just -- -- -- actually gone back and taken another look at it. Read there's a newer one she did -- video as well expected -- -- again but she didn't mention. Well you know I think it's a strong first entry here but it thinks is getting. Reaching people's going to be hard drag. -- you took a look this week that the current mechanic cap. Right and yet know how much to elevate win -- work for Arctic crosses over the -- stuff. And Garmin. Released a free app. Earlier this month actually. It's admittedly -- month got around to playing around with -- This week. Other government mechanic out basically what it does is out of the box it uses your phone's GPS. Your phone to fill around -- and and if the other framers would use to to. Basically. Get a pretty good idea of like how fast you're driving. Where you're driving and then using information it's few input about troop vehicles wait engine displacement red line -- -- educated guess. For what your fuel economy it now. If you purchase. In effect in modular separate module of the device called the Garmin eco -- HD. And what that is is that they with a little. A dongle that you plug into the diagnostics port on your vehicle any vehicle that been manufactured after about 1996. The -- can then use your phone's Bluetooth connection to connect to your cars computer. And get even more accurate actually extremely accurate information about. You know what your -- doing what's your actual miles per gallon and how much fuel you're using per second. Can you know -- -- check engine light comes on it can tell you why it's on. It's a very complex -- the free -- to download. And just use on your phone. By itself but if you want that. -- route HD module that for an additional 100 dollar purchase -- like to think of it -- the hundred dollar app but. When you compare it to other diagnostic devices with about half as much as you paper something or even a third of -- -- paper that. The next best thing that I would suggest that the device called the bully dog watchdog inflated 300 but device that premise does the same thing this 100 dollars a dongle and -- Check that out. That's pretty cool so does it have you used two different Bluetooth the rest of the same time before. I didn't actually. On the would -- thunder -- I was able to stay connected to the car's Bluetooth speakerphone. And still maintain a conviction to the app now I'll admit that. When that started talking on the phone stop looking at that screen and so it may not be able to do both at the same time but it appears that -- phones. Are able to release remain -- and ready for two devices. Interest in. Associated models metered -- the literally yeah. -- so that is that that's out now it's out now they actually the erotic -- models by a year old -- now ever the -- actually wants that to work with their Nuvi GPS devices but. I think they've been having a hard time elements of the app. As the basically another way for them -- get them -- themselves and adding it's a pretty good value if your car geek in your religious. Need to know exactly what is going on with your engines like right now that the very cool app and even if you're not a -- -- The free version the -- the GPS and it though -- Can be relatively accurate you the right at me and into. Wouldn't that a cool. -- -- that. Review were. Right deputy -- hands on yet hands on will put the link in the show notes or you go over to. Are at cnet.com Elizabeth over the course. -- -- that is it for stories this week that we -- it's an email. 200 Ellis at cnet.com. The first is from. Right any. Took a look at the will the video we just -- today how to install. Third party apps. On your injury phone and he was basically. -- the -- because my my home screen looked a little bit different. From the S -- -- -- Home screen that you would get on the thunderbolt -- -- basically -- with -- by using for the video and and and how can you finance like this. And and actually I got a screen side of it. -- -- Year of what my -- -- you've looked -- -- rough place that rom and or you can -- would check out via the video. That you just shoot. But basically what I'm using. Is for the large -- time in the center there's an app. Called minimalist detects that the free download and allows you to get in and really customize. What information. It shows American show weather information battery information ID and time information relates. A bunch of different ways. -- -- space and it's very simple looking. And then -- -- looks pretty similar to another Holmes creative scene yeah I'm a big fan of the way windows phone seven looks with the bleeding textile for the into the aids. I am a little bit -- that. -- sees the same app for all of the text links across the bottom of three home screens. And and the folders. Actually. It's an app called -- folders SI in my folder and it actually apes. The folder function on the iPhone though each of those folders will likely pop out. To scroll -- list of apps that directly underneath for example my favorite contacts or driving app or a social media though. It's actually pretty easy to -- -- get in there and play around with those that all of these that both of those apps for three in the entry market. Over there. Play around those. Cool go one more you know from. But here's the problem I cannot list of podcasts and -- I am on -- PC do you have an apt to suggest for me on my phone in order to get. -- audio streams or only iPhone is rooted so no limit there. Oh and one last thing -- live in the UK so I don't know if there any limitations locations like the one on Amazon's App Store which -- put in Elaine notes show keep up the good work. Yeah there's a lot of -- ways to do this. The two apps -- recommend our Google is sandwiches free from Google and you can subscribe to any. Podcasts out there. -- should be -- lists search within the app for our feed. And of this and one labeled MP3 you'll pop up. He just one audio. Or grabbed the -- from podcast at cnet.com. Another -- -- I personally use one called -- capture. And -- it to use I think it's like six or seven bucks that it is a lot more powerful than Google listen in and a lot more configurable. Me and I like it ought to automatically downloads all my stuff. You know. Without you -- sort -- want to just in the background so we always have the latest about -- But -- do you use anything. IE. I started using Google listened and then I got annoyed with who will listen because. -- And another way that it thinks. Right I'm was pretty -- and -- -- -- -- a lot better and so then I quit and -- -- with a study using double twist because it actually has the built in RSS feed. That will download day after your computer and then you can think them. Wired or wirelessly if you -- that they dare think out. -- -- -- But then since I've switched over to the four G and it's easier for me to actually download a a whole podcast and like a minute -- is like twenty minutes. Her -- on three G. I'm I'm actually got run back to who -- within in the last. To -- the thunderbolt. I am I'm back on with and I really like that listen. Integrated Google Reader so it's easy to add a podcast. From within Google Reader you just make sure that you tag them as listen items and automatically shall -- phone. Nights. -- ask -- listener and a tribe but either of those apps I think will do exactly what you want. And I'm so if you have questions comments complaints. The request for wallpaper. Send them to enter -- -- at cnet.com. You'd like to follow us on Twitter. You can -- that hacked into her now lists upon is that. At -- who. And I am -- not my real name. 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